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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Didnt this country start because of an unjust government? Didn't the war start by white people rioting? Riots are the means of expressions for those people who feel like theres no other way to be heard. Riots are a negative no matter which way you look at things but sometimes they do accomplish things, the United States

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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Didnt this country start because of an unjust government? Didn't the war start by white people rioting? Riots are the means of expressions for those people who feel like theres no other way to be heard. Riots are a negative no matter which way you look at things but sometimes they do accomplish things, the United States

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We all know that in this case the only reason riots are going to happen is because of a bunch of stupid people who think its going to be fun to burn oakland and cause more injury to people who have NOTHING to do with this. This is all about RACE wich is sad. You wont see a bunch of white people burning shit up if he is found guilty do you? You didnt see people burning oakland down when the 4 cops were shot and killed. All you people saying racism, why dont you tell the people of your race to stop setting a bad example for the rest of the race. Steriotyping is a bitch but until people prove otherwise the inoscent will suffer until the majority pull their head out of their ass's. The only way people will get past race is when people stop trying to use the race card about everything.

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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Didnt this country start because of an unjust government? Didn't the war start by white people rioting? Riots are the means of expressions for those people who feel like theres no other way to be heard. Riots are a negative no matter which way you look at things but sometimes they do accomplish things, the United States

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We all know that in this case the only reason riots are going to happen is because of a bunch of stupid people who think its going to be fun to burn oakland and cause more injury to people who have NOTHING to do with this. This is all about RACE wich is sad. You wont see a bunch of white people burning shit up if he is found guilty do you? You didnt see people burning oakland down when the 4 cops were shot and killed. All you people saying racism, why dont you tell the people of your race to stop setting a bad example for the rest of the race. Steriotyping is a bitch but until people prove otherwise the inoscent will suffer until the majority pull their head out of their ass's. The only way people will get past race is when people stop trying to use the race card about everything.

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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Didnt this country start because of an unjust government? Didn't the war start by white people rioting? Riots are the means of expressions for those people who feel like theres no other way to be heard. Riots are a negative no matter which way you look at things but sometimes they do accomplish things, the United States

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We all know that in this case the only reason riots are going to happen is because of a bunch of stupid people who think its going to be fun to burn oakland and cause more injury to people who have NOTHING to do with this. This is all about RACE wich is sad. You wont see a bunch of white people burning shit up if he is found guilty do you? You didnt see people burning oakland down when the 4 cops were shot and killed. All you people saying racism, why dont you tell the people of your race to stop setting a bad example for the rest of the race. Steriotyping is a bitch but until people prove otherwise the inoscent will suffer until the majority pull their head out of their ass's. The only way people will get past race is when people stop trying to use the race card about everything.

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There is some logic and some myth to this post. The communication you speak of has to be 2-way. While I sympathize with what may potentially happen. There is a large effort going on as we speak by community leaders, churches and communities in general to discourage ritoing and violence. So what you speak of is already happening. Now on the other hand. The police department and governing agencies need to do more with grievances filed, and could stand to send some officers to sensitivity training. Also it would be a good idea to implement a Meyers Brigss type of testing during the application process. There are still injustices happening on a whole scale way to much out there as in regards to policing the community. This is a form of communication whether you see it that way or not. granted there are dumb asses that will exploit the situation. That is expected with anything. But until a level communication platform is established and all parties are truly held accountable for their actions I am sure this is destined to be a wash and repeat. So when you guys say "I wish those ghetto people will stop.." or "talk to the people you share a ethnic background" or anything condemning towards the people of Oakland. You have to remember idiots cast aside this is not completely without merit.

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Originally posted by 925GT50:
What would have been the outcome if mesherle was Mexican or black? None of this would been have brought up. Like said before it's a race issue not bad judgement. Cops kill innocent people all the time alm across the us.

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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Didnt this country start because of an unjust government? Didn't the war start by white people rioting? Riots are the means of expressions for those people who feel like theres no other way to be heard. Riots are a negative no matter which way you look at things but sometimes they do accomplish things, the United States

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We all know that in this case the only reason riots are going to happen is because of a bunch of stupid people who think its going to be fun to burn oakland and cause more injury to people who have NOTHING to do with this. This is all about RACE wich is sad. You wont see a bunch of white people burning shit up if he is found guilty do you? You didnt see people burning oakland down when the 4 cops were shot and killed. All you people saying racism, why dont you tell the people of your race to stop setting a bad example for the rest of the race. Steriotyping is a bitch but until people prove otherwise the inoscent will suffer until the majority pull their head out of their ass's. The only way people will get past race is when people stop trying to use the race card about everything.

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There is some logic and some myth to this post. The communication you speak of has to be 2-way. While I sympathize with what may potentially happen. There is a large effort going on as we speak by community leaders, churches and communities in general to discourage ritoing and violence. So what you speak of is already happening. Now on the other hand. The police department and governing agencies need to do more with grievances filed, and could stand to send some officers to sensitivity training. Also it would be a good idea to implement a Meyers Brigss type of testing during the application process. There are still injustices happening on a whole scale way to much out there as in regards to policing the community. This is a form of communication whether you see it that way or not. granted there are dumb asses that will exploit the situation. That is expected with anything. But until a level communication platform is established and all parties are truly held accountable for their actions I am sure this is destined to be a wash and repeat. So when you guys say "I wish those ghetto people will stop.." or "talk to the people you share a ethnic background" or anything condemning towards the people of Oakland. You have to remember idiots cast aside this is not completely without merit.

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I agree with you n8 officers should go through more training like that ( if they dont already im not sure ) and the groups that are getting together for a peacefull rally are a great start, but as you can see on just this post alone that people still just want to cause havic because thats all they know or honestly want to do.

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I think N8 that establishing a 2 way communication is something that will really never happen, remember your talking about people who are Employed to keep the peace and will go through training and have the ability to work towards peace but the other side ( civilians ) will have to take it upon themselves to try and establish that relationship and they dont have the obligation to do so.

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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Didnt this country start because of an unjust government? Didn't the war start by white people rioting? Riots are the means of expressions for those people who feel like theres no other way to be heard. Riots are a negative no matter which way you look at things but sometimes they do accomplish things, the United States

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Are those the same people stealing tv's you see on tv during the riot. They want to be heard. What exactly are they expressing? I am sure that is the case for some but a lot are using it for there advantage.

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I agree some are stealing because people are rioting but alot of people who are angry are expressing their built up rage as well. I wish our judicial system wasn't broken and justice could be sought in court not in the streets

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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Didnt this country start because of an unjust government? Didn't the war start by white people rioting? Riots are the means of expressions for those people who feel like theres no other way to be heard. Riots are a negative no matter which way you look at things but sometimes they do accomplish things, the United States

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Are those the same people stealing tv's you see on tv during the riot. They want to be heard. What exactly are they expressing? I am sure that is the case for some but a lot are using it for there advantage.

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I agree some are stealing because people are rioting but alot of people who are angry are expressing their built up rage as well. I wish our judicial system wasn't broken and justice could be sought in court not in the streets

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a cop is a peace officer not a god or someone that should be able to take someones life if a cops kills they should go to prison aswell as anyone else that kills

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man with all the theories,and comparisions to the 60s,and what ifs and how comes and bs, again ill gladly watch from the safe comfort of my safe living room. while oakland is having there meaningful peace riot. all you oaklnd lovers can stay there. hope your kids are born street savy and not book smart. i just dont understand flaunting being from the hood. and the 60s? pshhhh a bunch of bitching weve came a long way while you people tryna keep yourselves down by living off the past. NOT SMART

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It is probably better that you do not understand. And the problem is not living in the past it is learning from the past. You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw) that you missed the whole purpose of what I posted. And it is your seclusion that has you thinking we have come farther than we have. When in reality we have not, there is still quite a bit of work in certain regions to make sure folks civil rights are not violated on a regular basis and that there is accountability for those transgressions. And just because someone is raised in an environment that fosters street savvy-ness. Does not mean there is a limitation on their learning. I am a shining example of that.

But I do agree I will have my family out of harms way when it goes down. However I am really glad I am raising my kids to temper judgment with compassion.

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
man with all the theories,and comparisions to the 60s,and what ifs and how comes and bs, again ill gladly watch from the safe comfort of my safe living room. while oakland is having there meaningful peace riot. all you oaklnd lovers can stay there. hope your kids are born street savy and not book smart. i just dont understand flaunting being from the hood. and the 60s? pshhhh a bunch of bitching weve came a long way while you people tryna keep yourselves down by living off the past. NOT SMART

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It is probably better that you do not understand. And the problem is not living in the past it is learning from the past. You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw) that you missed the whole purpose of what I posted. And it is your seclusion that has you thinking we have come farther than we have. When in reality we have not, there is still quite a bit of work in certain regions to make sure folks civil rights are not violated on a regular basis and that there is accountability for those transgressions. And just because someone is raised in an environment that fosters street savvy-ness. Does not mean there is a limitation on their learning. I am a shining example of that.

But I do agree I will have my family out of harms way when it goes down. However I am really glad I am raising my kids to temper judgment with compassion.

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
man with all the theories,and comparisions to the 60s,and what ifs and how comes and bs, again ill gladly watch from the safe comfort of my safe living room. while oakland is having there meaningful peace riot. all you oaklnd lovers can stay there. hope your kids are born street savy and not book smart. i just dont understand flaunting being from the hood. and the 60s? pshhhh a bunch of bitching weve came a long way while you people tryna keep yourselves down by living off the past. NOT SMART

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It is probably better that you do not understand. And the problem is not living in the past it is learning from the past. You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw) that you missed the whole purpose of what I posted. And it is your seclusion that has you thinking we have come farther than we have. When in reality we have not, there is still quite a bit of work in certain regions to make sure folks civil rights are not violated on a regular basis and that there is accountability for those transgressions. And just because someone is raised in an environment that fosters street savvy-ness. Does not mean there is a limitation on their learning. I am a shining example of that.

But I do agree I will have my family out of harms way when it goes down. However I am really glad I am raising my kids to temper judgment with compassion.

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thats a sweet way to raise your kids,BUT its 2010 a 16yr old will blast your head off for lunch money, so ill raise mine to stay completley away from high violence areas such as oakland. wouldnt risk my kids safety over an ideal way to raise them.

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Just to let you know, lil Timmy down the street is capable of the same thing (Columbine). Just remember glass houses and stones do not mix

Cheers. I have said too much in this topic...lol.

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
man with all the theories,and comparisions to the 60s,and what ifs and how comes and bs, again ill gladly watch from the safe comfort of my safe living room. while oakland is having there meaningful peace riot. all you oaklnd lovers can stay there. hope your kids are born street savy and not book smart. i just dont understand flaunting being from the hood. and the 60s? pshhhh a bunch of bitching weve came a long way while you people tryna keep yourselves down by living off the past. NOT SMART

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It is probably better that you do not understand. And the problem is not living in the past it is learning from the past. You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw) that you missed the whole purpose of what I posted. And it is your seclusion that has you thinking we have come farther than we have. When in reality we have not, there is still quite a bit of work in certain regions to make sure folks civil rights are not violated on a regular basis and that there is accountability for those transgressions. And just because someone is raised in an environment that fosters street savvy-ness. Does not mean there is a limitation on their learning. I am a shining example of that.

But I do agree I will have my family out of harms way when it goes down. However I am really glad I am raising my kids to temper judgment with compassion.

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thats a sweet way to raise your kids,BUT its 2010 a 16yr old will blast your head off for lunch money, so ill raise mine to stay completley away from high violence areas such as oakland. wouldnt risk my kids safety over an ideal way to raise them.

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Just to let you know, lil Timmy down the street is capable of the same thing (Columbine). Just remember glass houses and stones do not mix

Cheers. I have said too much in this topic...lol.

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Originally posted by fast 98gt:
guns have safetys he knew he had his gun and shot him in the back thats why he did not say it was an accident... no neeed for riots

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
man with all the theories,and comparisions to the 60s,and what ifs and how comes and bs, again ill gladly watch from the safe comfort of my safe living room. while oakland is having there meaningful peace riot. all you oaklnd lovers can stay there. hope your kids are born street savy and not book smart. i just dont understand flaunting being from the hood. and the 60s? pshhhh a bunch of bitching weve came a long way while you people tryna keep yourselves down by living off the past. NOT SMART

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It is probably better that you do not understand. And the problem is not living in the past it is learning from the past. You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw) that you missed the whole purpose of what I posted. And it is your seclusion that has you thinking we have come farther than we have. When in reality we have not, there is still quite a bit of work in certain regions to make sure folks civil rights are not violated on a regular basis and that there is accountability for those transgressions. And just because someone is raised in an environment that fosters street savvy-ness. Does not mean there is a limitation on their learning. I am a shining example of that.

But I do agree I will have my family out of harms way when it goes down. However I am really glad I am raising my kids to temper judgment with compassion.

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thats a sweet way to raise your kids,BUT its 2010 a 16yr old will blast your head off for lunch money, so ill raise mine to stay completley away from high violence areas such as oakland. wouldnt risk my kids safety over an ideal way to raise them.

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Just to let you know, lil Timmy down the street is capable of the same thing (Columbine). Just remember glass houses and stones do not mix

Cheers. I have said too much in this topic...lol.

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ya but ill take the 1 in 100000 chance of timmy then the 1-10 chance in oakland. And to add to the posts above this, the problem with discrimination n8 is for the most part its all true and the cops or whoever are just cutting to the chase, ya it isnt right but you know the truth hurts. I mean shit watch cops and almost anybody who gets arrested is in instant denial even when shit comes falling out of their own pockets on camera it was a friends or not theirs or the cops planted it on them.

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
man with all the theories,and comparisions to the 60s,and what ifs and how comes and bs, again ill gladly watch from the safe comfort of my safe living room. while oakland is having there meaningful peace riot. all you oaklnd lovers can stay there. hope your kids are born street savy and not book smart. i just dont understand flaunting being from the hood. and the 60s? pshhhh a bunch of bitching weve came a long way while you people tryna keep yourselves down by living off the past. NOT SMART

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It is probably better that you do not understand. And the problem is not living in the past it is learning from the past. You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw) that you missed the whole purpose of what I posted. And it is your seclusion that has you thinking we have come farther than we have. When in reality we have not, there is still quite a bit of work in certain regions to make sure folks civil rights are not violated on a regular basis and that there is accountability for those transgressions. And just because someone is raised in an environment that fosters street savvy-ness. Does not mean there is a limitation on their learning. I am a shining example of that.

But I do agree I will have my family out of harms way when it goes down. However I am really glad I am raising my kids to temper judgment with compassion.

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thats a sweet way to raise your kids,BUT its 2010 a 16yr old will blast your head off for lunch money, so ill raise mine to stay completley away from high violence areas such as oakland. wouldnt risk my kids safety over an ideal way to raise them.

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Just to let you know, lil Timmy down the street is capable of the same thing (Columbine). Just remember glass houses and stones do not mix

Cheers. I have said too much in this topic...lol.

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
man with all the theories,and comparisions to the 60s,and what ifs and how comes and bs, again ill gladly watch from the safe comfort of my safe living room. while oakland is having there meaningful peace riot. all you oaklnd lovers can stay there. hope your kids are born street savy and not book smart. i just dont understand flaunting being from the hood. and the 60s? pshhhh a bunch of bitching weve came a long way while you people tryna keep yourselves down by living off the past. NOT SMART

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It is probably better that you do not understand. And the problem is not living in the past it is learning from the past. You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw) that you missed the whole purpose of what I posted. And it is your seclusion that has you thinking we have come farther than we have. When in reality we have not, there is still quite a bit of work in certain regions to make sure folks civil rights are not violated on a regular basis and that there is accountability for those transgressions. And just because someone is raised in an environment that fosters street savvy-ness. Does not mean there is a limitation on their learning. I am a shining example of that.

But I do agree I will have my family out of harms way when it goes down. However I am really glad I am raising my kids to temper judgment with compassion.

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thats a sweet way to raise your kids,BUT its 2010 a 16yr old will blast your head off for lunch money, so ill raise mine to stay completley away from high violence areas such as oakland. wouldnt risk my kids safety over an ideal way to raise them.

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Just to let you know, lil Timmy down the street is capable of the same thing (Columbine). Just remember glass houses and stones do not mix

Cheers. I have said too much in this topic...lol.

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lol see why he gotta be lil timmy i never said lil jerome. lol im just playin n8 you my boy still.

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
man with all the theories,and comparisions to the 60s,and what ifs and how comes and bs, again ill gladly watch from the safe comfort of my safe living room. while oakland is having there meaningful peace riot. all you oaklnd lovers can stay there. hope your kids are born street savy and not book smart. i just dont understand flaunting being from the hood. and the 60s? pshhhh a bunch of bitching weve came a long way while you people tryna keep yourselves down by living off the past. NOT SMART

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It is probably better that you do not understand. And the problem is not living in the past it is learning from the past. You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw) that you missed the whole purpose of what I posted. And it is your seclusion that has you thinking we have come farther than we have. When in reality we have not, there is still quite a bit of work in certain regions to make sure folks civil rights are not violated on a regular basis and that there is accountability for those transgressions. And just because someone is raised in an environment that fosters street savvy-ness. Does not mean there is a limitation on their learning. I am a shining example of that.

But I do agree I will have my family out of harms way when it goes down. However I am really glad I am raising my kids to temper judgment with compassion.

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thats a sweet way to raise your kids,BUT its 2010 a 16yr old will blast your head off for lunch money, so ill raise mine to stay completley away from high violence areas such as oakland. wouldnt risk my kids safety over an ideal way to raise them.

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Just to let you know, lil Timmy down the street is capable of the same thing (Columbine). Just remember glass houses and stones do not mix

Cheers. I have said too much in this topic...lol.

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lol see why he gotta be lil timmy i never said lil jerome. lol im just playin n8 you my boy still.

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Funny thing is I started to say "lil Tyrone", but that would have spurred a whole new topic with how the folks that live in these untouchable communities have no Tyrones in thier midst....hahahah. Yea no love lost here. I am still cool with folks. Oh and I have a cousin named Timmy who is black. Its funny how a name can give way to a race. See we haven't come too far....hahahaha

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What would have been the outcome if mesherle was Mexican or black? None of this would been have brought up. Like said before it's a race issue not bad judgement. Cops kill innocent people all the time alm across the us.

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Better yet, what if Grant was White? We wouldn't even be talking about it. I'm willing to bet that more cops are gunned down than civilians per year across the country. Mistakes & accidents happen, and that's just the way it is. Everybody can keep on debating their side and argue till they are blue in the face, but for what? 1 side will never convince the other side that they are right and vise verse. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Everybody forgets what's important we "Americans" are some of the luckiest people in the world. People want to keep crying about injustice and fairness. If you don't like it leave.

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more cops killed then civilians every year...thousands of civs are killed every year vs a hand full of officers coast to coast actually. Yes we Americans are some of the luckiest people in the world, being allowed to bitch about whatever you want IS a freedom of being an American. As an American YOU ME or ANYBODY should never take injustice and like it, maybe thats what you were taught but not me.

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Really how many people are killed by Cops a year? 133 cops were killed in 2008 & 125 in 2009. I highly doubt that there was more civilians killed by cops than this. At least innocent 1's that were killed. I mean if you are armed and you get killed by a cop is that the same as shooting a cop in cold blood? Anyways we can go on and on. I see that you are from Oakland so I wouldn't expect your response to be any different. no disrespect or knock to you. We are all products of our environments. I do agree with you that we can't let injustice go on without notice, but there is a civil way to handle just about any situation. Retaliation, riots & random act's of violence is just ignorant and will only back their cause and hurt yours. To anybody that lives in Oakland, I hope that no harm comes to you or your family and or property, I really do. Anybody out in the streets acting a fool, you will be handled accordingly.

BTW - the last time people rioted in Oakland my friends car got stomped on by 6 - 10 black guys while she watched from the 3rd floor. She is a single black mother trying to make it in these hard times, they caused over 5K in damage. WTF? How does this help the community and it's people? Protest and freedom of speech is the answer, not acting like a animal.

Everybody be safe out there.

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You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw)

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You are so eager to pass judgment on people (very sad quality btw)

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re-quoted for clarification, as sad defines the quality not the person. So your pursuit of irony is a FAIL

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Originally posted by Slowback67:
^ So let's get this straight........ almost 50 cops were killed by bad guys in one year VS this one bad guy (Oscar Grant.... Who we know was a felon and was resisting arrest)who was shot by an officer..... I'd say this shows us all that more bad guys kill cops then this one cop f-ing up real bad and shooting a bad guy.....
One other thing, if a cop does shoot someone like what happened that day. They are told not to talk to anyone BUT their lawyer. That IS why he didn't say anything to the other cops..... That was one part of his training he did get right that day.

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Originally posted by Slowback67:
^ So let's get this straight........ almost 50 cops were killed by bad guys in one year VS this one bad guy (Oscar Grant.... Who we know was a felon and was resisting arrest)who was shot by an officer..... I'd say this shows us all that more bad guys kill cops then this one cop f-ing up real bad and shooting a bad guy.....
One other thing, if a cop does shoot someone like what happened that day. They are told not to talk to anyone BUT their lawyer. That IS why he didn't say anything to the other cops..... That was one part of his training he did get right that day.

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I would bet good money that the police killed the mojrity of those who killed officers, and those criminals who were not killed were sentence to LONG TERM prison. I don't think you get it. Shooting a cuffed person, while two police officers have knees in his back, is called an execution.

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GO SHARKS!