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immigrants are the ones doing the dirty jobs that we dont do. can you imagine a black, white, or asian guy picking grapes or cleaning toilets. HELL NO! economy's bad and you still dont see them out in the fields where they could be working. we are so used of illegals working these dirty jobs that we dont even notice how much they contribute to this country. but on the other hand there is the whole tax situation which i dont agree with. to me it just sounds like a never ending problem.

take the illegals away and the farmers and who ever else has to pay more to American citizens, all of a sudden the rich aren't getting richer any more but Americans now have American paying jobs and our economy is getting better..................hummmmmmmm you be the judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we (Americans) wanted this to happen it would have happend already. Im sure farmers would hire a citizen before an illegal.
you must be very uneducated in this subject about farmers and all!
no.. im actually pretty educated. lol. i see where your coming from tho. cheaper labor= immigrants. but im saying if citizen do need a job they could do it. but they dont. im not talking about all americans, im talking about the lazy ones that always complain they cant find a job.
they make em in illegal form too! not just americans are lazy!
exactly, but who's woring out there??
woring?
Americans that are willing to work cant find a job for penny's, but if you look around illegals are still working! don't you understand that if all of the illegals were deported tomorrow these crooked business owners would have to pay American wadges again, you don't realize its not just the illegals that aren't paying taxes its the employers to!

Not if Americans aren't willing to do that type of work. I get what you're trying to say but it's a bit more complex than that. I'll give you an example...
People that I know work door-to-door sales for Comcast making an average of $90,000 a year- no joke! Some make well over that. The churn rate is amazingly high because it's not an easy job and also takes up a lot of time. People will work for 3-6 months and then quit to collect guess what? Unemployment! My point is that sometimes even money wont attract people to work a certain job. Especially if it's "too much work".

it is what it is but illegals drain the us regardless!
Americans work shit jobs everyday for minimum wadge but no one is gunna work for under!

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immigrants are the ones doing the dirty jobs that we dont do. can you imagine a black, white, or asian guy picking grapes or cleaning toilets. HELL NO! economy's bad and you still dont see them out in the fields where they could be working. we are so used of illegals working these dirty jobs that we dont even notice how much they contribute to this country. but on the other hand there is the whole tax situation which i dont agree with. to me it just sounds like a never ending problem.

take the illegals away and the farmers and who ever else has to pay more to American citizens, all of a sudden the rich aren't getting richer any more but Americans now have American paying jobs and our economy is getting better..................hummmmmmmm you be the judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we (Americans) wanted this to happen it would have happend already. Im sure farmers would hire a citizen before an illegal.
you must be very uneducated in this subject about farmers and all!
no.. im actually pretty educated. lol. i see where your coming from tho. cheaper labor= immigrants. but im saying if citizen do need a job they could do it. but they dont. im not talking about all americans, im talking about the lazy ones that always complain they cant find a job.
they make em in illegal form too! not just americans are lazy!
exactly, but who's woring out there??
woring?
Americans that are willing to work cant find a job for penny's, but if you look around illegals are still working! don't you understand that if all of the illegals were deported tomorrow these crooked business owners would have to pay American wadges again, you don't realize its not just the illegals that aren't paying taxes its the employers to!

Not if Americans aren't willing to do that type of work. I get what you're trying to say but it's a bit more complex than that. I'll give you an example...
People that I know work door-to-door sales for Comcast making an average of $90,000 a year- no joke! Some make well over that. The churn rate is amazingly high because it's not an easy job and also takes up a lot of time. People will work for 3-6 months and then quit to collect guess what? Unemployment! My point is that sometimes even money wont attract people to work a certain job. Especially if it's "too much work". [/QUOTE

thats a good amount of money but im talking about the lower income people that get way less than 90,000

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You can pay taxes as a illegal immigrant , the IRS issues you a ITN number with that you pay taxes...but some of you guys need to stop thinking you have the answers for everything it just shows how ignorant you are

ya i bet the line for that is longer than the un employment line huh? bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!
its not that i know it all, its that i hate anyone that takes my hard earned money! you should to unless you're an illegal?

How is it bullshit?? Just because you don't know about it doesn't make it real?. There you go thinking you know everything , my dad paid taxes with his ITN number for years before becoming legal .. and who takes your hard earned money?? Enlighten me
so your dad one in a million illegals paid taxes, what..............do you want a cookie?
No you admitting that you were wrong about some of your previous ignorant statements is good enough for me bro..have a nice night .I'm done with this shit..
none of my posts were ignorant, educated is the word you where looking for!

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immigrants are the ones doing the dirty jobs that we dont do. can you imagine a black, white, or asian guy picking grapes or cleaning toilets. HELL NO! economy's bad and you still dont see them out in the fields where they could be working. we are so used of illegals working these dirty jobs that we dont even notice how much they contribute to this country. but on the other hand there is the whole tax situation which i dont agree with. to me it just sounds like a never ending problem.

take the illegals away and the farmers and who ever else has to pay more to American citizens, all of a sudden the rich aren't getting richer any more but Americans now have American paying jobs and our economy is getting better..................hummmmmmmm you be the judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we (Americans) wanted this to happen it would have happend already. Im sure farmers would hire a citizen before an illegal.
you must be very uneducated in this subject about farmers and all!
no.. im actually pretty educated. lol. i see where your coming from tho. cheaper labor= immigrants. but im saying if citizen do need a job they could do it. but they dont. im not talking about all americans, im talking about the lazy ones that always complain they cant find a job.
they make em in illegal form too! not just americans are lazy!
exactly, but who's woring out there??
woring?
Americans that are willing to work cant find a job for penny's, but if you look around illegals are still working! don't you understand that if all of the illegals were deported tomorrow these crooked business owners would have to pay American wadges again, you don't realize its not just the illegals that aren't paying taxes its the employers to!

Not if Americans aren't willing to do that type of work. I get what you're trying to say but it's a bit more complex than that. I'll give you an example...
People that I know work door-to-door sales for Comcast making an average of $90,000 a year- no joke! Some make well over that. The churn rate is amazingly high because it's not an easy job and also takes up a lot of time. People will work for 3-6 months and then quit to collect guess what? Unemployment! My point is that sometimes even money wont attract people to work a certain job. Especially if it's "too much work".

it is what it is but illegals drain the us regardless!
Americans work shit jobs everyday for minimum wadge but no one is gunna work for under!

im sure illegals dont get paid less than minimum wage. i know many wine farmers and ive seen the checks these people get. none lower then minimum wage.

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Not only that but they but things like clothes food cars rent houses toys send kids to college all have taxes attached to them pumping money back into the the system yea no American will pick fruit clean rooms wash dishes cook food at the prices the imagrants do it for they woud strike and start a union to get higher wages wich would rais the price of all those things wich would make the average person in America not want to get those high price fruits and high price hotels and not want to eat out at a high priced food joints shit look how the price of gas fucked everthing up it snow balls to a big mess now they want to check leagle status based on your skin color that's illeagle to, I get mistaken for a Hispani. All the time do you think I want to vacation in Arizona k owing I will get fucked with, no I'm cool so watching baseball in AZ for opening day is out for me and I was born a US cit so was all my fam except my mom wich took her over 27yrs to get her citizenship and she did it leagley from the start an no she's not Mexican she's japaneese started the paperwork in japan before she got here in 1979

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immigrants are the ones doing the dirty jobs that we dont do. can you imagine a black, white, or asian guy picking grapes or cleaning toilets. HELL NO! economy's bad and you still dont see them out in the fields where they could be working. we are so used of illegals working these dirty jobs that we dont even notice how much they contribute to this country. but on the other hand there is the whole tax situation which i dont agree with. to me it just sounds like a never ending problem.

take the illegals away and the farmers and who ever else has to pay more to American citizens, all of a sudden the rich aren't getting richer any more but Americans now have American paying jobs and our economy is getting better..................hummmmmmmm you be the judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we (Americans) wanted this to happen it would have happend already. Im sure farmers would hire a citizen before an illegal.
you must be very uneducated in this subject about farmers and all!
no.. im actually pretty educated. lol. i see where your coming from tho. cheaper labor= immigrants. but im saying if citizen do need a job they could do it. but they dont. im not talking about all americans, im talking about the lazy ones that always complain they cant find a job.
they make em in illegal form too! not just americans are lazy!
exactly, but who's woring out there??
woring?
Americans that are willing to work cant find a job for penny's, but if you look around illegals are still working! don't you understand that if all of the illegals were deported tomorrow these crooked business owners would have to pay American wadges again, you don't realize its not just the illegals that aren't paying taxes its the employers to!

Not if Americans aren't willing to do that type of work. I get what you're trying to say but it's a bit more complex than that. I'll give you an example...
People that I know work door-to-door sales for Comcast making an average of $90,000 a year- no joke! Some make well over that. The churn rate is amazingly high because it's not an easy job and also takes up a lot of time. People will work for 3-6 months and then quit to collect guess what? Unemployment! My point is that sometimes even money wont attract people to work a certain job. Especially if it's "too much work".

it is what it is but illegals drain the us regardless!
Americans work shit jobs everyday for minimum wadge but no one is gunna work for under!

im sure illegals dont get paid less than minimum wage. i know many wine farmers and ive seen the checks these people get. none lower then minimum wage.
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alright.. settled then??

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alright.. settled then??

naw just don't want to argue about some illegals pay check!
i know better than what you are implying!

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and they made all there money legit not no dirty money.

not paying taxes is not legit, how could they come here illegally and pay taxes b4 they became legal?
Ron I like you you ,but you just don't know sometimes, every job I've ever worked has taxes taken out same with the illeagles except they don't get no tax returns and another thing they don't have DL so what happens when they get pulled over they get there car towed ,and when they go to court, there case gets thrown out and they auction off their cars I see it so every time I go to traffic court.
laws are made and just because you are illegal and want a better life doesn't give you the right to break them!
how do you get taxed when you get paid cash, how do you cash a check without an id?

I forgot how to spell it it's called somthing like a cousiler card from Mexico American co. Take that as leagle doc and they get there checks cashed at check cashing places and have a huge chunk taken out they start cell phone acounts that have so many taxes in charges look at you cellphone bill next time so many american biz always taking there money and so think about that everytime you pay any bill even your cable bill has taxes in them

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"Arrogance diminishes wisdom"
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alright.. settled then??

naw just don't want to argue about some illegals pay check!
i know better than what you are implying!

seen their pay checks dude. im not implying nothing

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Not saying it's right but when you make broad statements like that you sound like you live in a shoe box ronnie boy but I still love ya

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"Arrogance diminishes wisdom"

yep so check your self next time before you post ignorant shit again!

[ April 27, 2010, 02:36 AM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]

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alright.. settled then??

naw just don't want to argue about some illegals pay check!
i know better than what you are implying!

seen their pay checks dude. im not implying nothing
ya ok

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Not saying it's right but when you make broad statements like that you sound like you live in a shoe box ronnie boy but I still love ya

when you know nothing of what you are speaking of, you make your self look not so smart!

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Not saying it's right but when you make broad statements like that you sound like you live in a shoe box ronnie boy but I still love ya

when you know nothing of what you are speaking of, you make your self look not so smart!
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Seen check stubs at AT&T we take those cards as ID at AT&T I know first hand bro , you don't your just guessing on what they do

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"Arrogance diminishes wisdom"

yep so check your self next time before you post ignorant shit again!
Facts bro . Nothing but facts
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And co. Don't pay cash it cost more to do that you have to pay taxes on cash you pull out and to do that weekly or biweekly is not smart that's why they pay them in paychecks it's not up to the employer how illeagles cash there checks co. Are about there bottom line that's why they pay these guys nothing cuz they can't complain

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Seen check stubs at AT&T we take those cards as ID at AT&T I know first hand bro , you don't your just guessing on what they do

actually, your silly phone taxes only accounts for 1 in a million! most illegals buy phones with no contracts bud!
you forget i work with the working legals and know first hand about all the bullshit that there friends and fam do!
very knowledgeable on this topic so lets keep the speculation going!

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"Arrogance diminishes wisdom"

yep so check your self next time before you post ignorant shit again!
Facts bro . Nothing but facts
nothing but bullshit!

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And co. Don't pay cash it cost more to do that you have to pay taxes on cash you pull out and to do that weekly or biweekly is not smart that's why they pay them in paychecks it's not up to the employer how illeagles cash there checks co. Are about there bottom line that's why they pay these guys nothing cuz they can't complain

you are very lost on this subject if you believe what you just posted!

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Unconstitutional? Who do you think the constitution protects? US Citizens, not illegal aliens. If your legal show your documents, if your not go straight back to where you came from. 30% of all inmates in our prison system are illegal aliens. I'm sure there are a bunch of hard working illegals but they need to work harder at getting a green card first. If you cant get a green card, your lazy in my book and a law breaker so you get jail!

And if your a suspicious looking brown person, its a great way to pull your ass over and find out what kind of drugs you got. If you dont have anything, then have a nice day.

wow,, really, where do you get your facts mr.?

how about if you look like a crackhead white guy we should be able to pull you over for "no reason" aka racial profiling and harass you.. hmmm think about that bubba

http://www.rense.com/general60/ill.htm

Here's were i get my facts you panochudo. You'll also notice this next time you go to jail, which should be in 5,4,3,2..... Plus, you dont get pulled over for being a specific race, you get pulled over because your an ass and you drive like one. Or your reg is out, or now in Arizona your an illegal! This law is great! Get rid of all these goobacks, and give us back our 1.6 billion dollars for housing these POS mofo's that belong in their own dirthole.

first off what kind of reputable site is that???WTF??
real scholarly website and credentials and research you got there buddy boy.

so you get pulled over for something obvious like speeding, an expired reg tag, a broken taillight, but how do they know you're an illegal douchebag? i highly doubt whites are going to get pulled over and asked to bust out their resident cards [BS flag]

and speaking of housing inmates.. well if our dear governor arnold wouldnt have his head up his arse like certain people here maybe our jails wouldnt be filled up with regular white citizens as well...

page 6 middle top column DOUCHEBAG!
9 Incarceration
rates are much lower
for foreign-born adults (297 per
100,000) than for U.S.-born
adults (813 per 100,000).

http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/cacounts/CC_806ABCC.pdf

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Unconstitutional? Who do you think the constitution protects? US Citizens, not illegal aliens. If your legal show your documents, if your not go straight back to where you came from. 30% of all inmates in our prison system are illegal aliens. I'm sure there are a bunch of hard working illegals but they need to work harder at getting a green card first. If you cant get a green card, your lazy in my book and a law breaker so you get jail!

And if your a suspicious looking brown person, its a great way to pull your ass over and find out what kind of drugs you got. If you dont have anything, then have a nice day.

wow,, really, where do you get your facts mr.?

how about if you look like a crackhead white guy we should be able to pull you over for "no reason" aka racial profiling and harass you.. hmmm think about that bubba

http://www.rense.com/general60/ill.htm

Here's were i get my facts you panochudo. You'll also notice this next time you go to jail, which should be in 5,4,3,2..... Plus, you dont get pulled over for being a specific race, you get pulled over because your an ass and you drive like one. Or your reg is out, or now in Arizona your an illegal! This law is great! Get rid of all these goobacks, and give us back our 1.6 billion dollars for housing these POS mofo's that belong in their own dirthole.

first off what kind of reputable site is that???WTF??
real scholarly website and credentials and research you got there buddy boy.

so you get pulled over for something obvious like speeding, an expired reg tag, a broken taillight, but how do they know you're an illegal douchebag? i highly doubt whites are going to get pulled over and asked to bust out their resident cards [BS flag]

and speaking of housing inmates.. well if our dear governor arnold wouldnt have his head up his arse like certain people here maybe our jails wouldnt be filled up with regular white citizens as well...

page 6 middle top column DOUCHEBAG!
9 Incarceration
rates are much lower
for foreign-born adults (297 per
100,000) than for U.S.-born
adults (813 per 100,000).

http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/cacounts/CC_806ABCC.pdf

whites huh............i guess we know who the racists are here!

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Lmfao!! I thought religious people were arrogant for thinking their ways were the only ways to save yourself from eternal "hell" but then I ran into this guy fr5.0 on cafords..you beat them by far ..lol!
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