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SlowStockFox
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so i recently trade a car for a car. inwitch she hid some things from me and i did to her. well i emailed her a really good list and out look on the car. inwitch i said the abs light was on and i pulled the fuse and it now has non working abs. but in the bill of sale that was wrote out....it says AS IS. now shes saying shes gunna sue me cause of it. witch i told her all the problems with the car. except the abs. as many of you know these 99 up mustangs are a pain in the ass when it comes to abs. so since it says as is and i already registered the other car and all that. nothing can be done right?>
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nope nothing can be done. Only time I have seen issues stand up in court were related to smog. I think you are good. A borderline schmuck, but all good....lmao.
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SlowStockFox
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well after the deal i wrote her and asked her more ? on the car i got and then i typed her a bunch of things about the car i gave her. i said it was spun in the snow once and the abs light went on. we had it scanned by a shop and no code was found. so we pulled the fuse cause the light. inwitch it turns the system off. that what i said. i know i didnt mess anything up on my end. she his sum shit i failed to mention lmao. teh car sat over 6 months then i washed it and emailed a CL add to trade drove it and traded it. so i think im in the claer as it was AS IS
its a used car.
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SlowStockFox
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so this lady says she going to get legal advice. but what ever. i have all my email and hers. the car i got has issues but being a man i know a used car is bound to need something.but on the bill of sell i worte my name vin and as is new owner accepts vehical as is with no warrenty. she signed and dated it.
but i didnt tell her bout the abs b4 in the email but in my email b4 the trade i said there is prob things im missing on it. as i went into alot of detail on the car as i had to drive 2 hrs for the trade. so i made sure she was liking the deal b4 i wasted my time. but after she wanted me to email her all about it {services and mods etc} i did and i also said the fuse for the abs is pulled cause the light is on but it was scanned and no codes came up. {witch i didnt do lol} yea i kno im a lil shady on that part but i told her now. i said we just didnt lik the abs light on and i took the fuse out.
so she cant do anything can she. as it was wrote as is and she accepts the car.
i got a car needs brakes, 02 sensor, body work, things dnt work, she got a mustang with no probs except a fuse pulled and no abs...witch i told her after the trade.
im sure some of this dnt make sense and if i have to re write it to clear anything up let me know.
she said she is going to get legal advice and something bout a law where she can sue me for 3 times the blue book.
so i just wanna know im clear so i dont need to stress it
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if she can prove you hid the abs problem she may have a leg to stand on b/c she can say you sold an unsafe car to her.
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SlowStockFox
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i doubt it. i been doing alot of research. i think im safe. as she would have to prove it and i can out prove her on her own deal. she said her car was fine as its not. i told her all the flaws of my car except that. in my emial i told her the light was on and i took it off inwitch turns off the abs inwitch brakes still work {am i right just abs doesnt} alot of ppl know how troubled 99 up stangs r with abs. altho i told her after the deal was done. cause she wanted a email wanting to know all bout the car again. so she must have del my first emails.
she hid things from me and lied and i failed to mention the abs fuse was pulled {the fuse i pulled was just for the light on the cluster}
the bill of sell says the car is sold as is with out warranties, express or implied, as to the condtion of the car. by accepting the bill of sell buyer/trasneree have personally inspected the car and accepts car AS IS and she signed it and dated it.
to top if off the ladys last name is scaman
lmao
the vehical is safe as it still stops. i drove it 2 hrs to trade her. if i go to court i pulled it 8 months ago b4 we parked it. and when spring came and i found her to trade i had forgotten till after the deal was done...cause she emailed me wanting to know bout the car. {witch b4 the trade i made a email with full description and video along with many many pictures}
as for it not being safe i drove to so cal from WA with the abs light on.
so yes i for got to tell her till after the deal was done but it was a as is deal. i didnt even need to email her back but i did and mentioned it.
any other thoughts?
i just dnt want to have to go to court over a stupid ass deal. 1 i have a 4mo old at home and its 2 hrs away.
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SlowStockFox
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so she wanted me to email her a list of things done to the car and all the services {witch when i first emailed her about the trade i did and also did a 2nd time in my video and when i sent her the pics/video i typed it all out again. so she must had del the first emails we had.
so this is what i sent her. today she txt me and says u never told me bout the abs and im going to sue you. you might pay up to 3 times the kbb value. she said im going to seek legal adive and get back to you.
my last email to her
so i was wondering if you know anything bout the van? has it had any servies done, plug wires, oil tranny anthing done to it? do you have ne papers on it? how long did you own it again and when you got it how many miles did it have? anything else you can tell me.
ive noticed the check engine light is on....from a 02 sensor and if you clear it it stays off a half hour b4 coming back on. the day b4 we met you said it had a half tank but when i called to meet you that morning you said you where getting gas....did u really just go to a parts store and clear the code b4 we met? i dnt care i just rather you be honest. i got it in my name. i still think it was a good deal so i am not mad. the code is just a 02 sensor and i priced it with a discount from work and its 24$. so has it ever had a major repair like axles, head gaskets, timing chain etc?
any info you can give me would be great. i dont mind you being honest as it gives me a good idea of what it has and might need later down the road.
as for the mustang.
in the past year its had full service tranny service{pan drop and filter change} fuel filter, k&N, oil changes are current with full synthetic {it also had a engine flush with really good cleaner {stuff they do at jiffy lube} i had that done when i worked there. full rear end service with syntheic gear oil and friction modifer. it has sequnetial tail lights, the really expensive silver star head lights{the 50$ ones} it has after market 373 rear end gears{make it get up and go faster but has less top end} has a shift kit {not sure what level it is} these were done from the past owner and i never got proof but you can tell and i also counted the turns of the rear wheels and gears spinning {with cover off} it also has cross drilled rotors in the front with HAWK brake pads{look them up there bad ass} it has new rear rotors and pads{pads are lifetime}
remember i was trying to show you the trick on the gauge cluster to show u check engine lights and speedo and tach and all that. here is a link to show you
http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/dtcodes.htm
we got the van in our name now and i did a oil change and it was nasty {so much sludge} i did a fuel filter and k&N its running good so far. i fixed the window. i replaced the cabin air filters {not sure if you knew it had them} they where sooooo gross. it ac/heater blow so much harder now. i topped off the coolant it was super low. it seems like you drove van and didnt care for it much or didnt own it long.
im not mad as i said and i think it was a good deal for both of us as both cars had problems. oh the mustang has teh abs turned off. it was spun around in the snow in a small ditch and the abs light went on and we had it scanned at a shop but no codes came up but the light was on. so we pulled the fuse for it to get the light off. witch also turns the system off.
i hope you enjoy the mustang as it is a really good car and we drove it to cali and back jus fine. it was our daily driver b4 we got pregnet and it ran great always. it did split a hose once and we changed it and the thermostat. it never over heated. also read up on the intake gaskets on the 3.8 im sure you notice the stupid tick sound. its common and all most all of them do it. its the lower intake gasket as the intake bolts are tourqed to inch pounds. if i remember anything else on it or find any other papers i will send them to you. i am also going to mail you the other key. so are you going to keep the car or sell it?
i want to be honest with you on the car and thats why i emailed you with everything i know of the car. ide app it if you did the same. we really enjoyed it and i hope you do to. thanks
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SlowStockFox
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i have all my emails from her. in my first one i dnt mention the abs but i state ther eis a few things im sure im forgetting. but the car runs and drives great. if needed i will post them
i know this isnt a legal site i just want to be sure. lol
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Originally posted by SlowStockFox:
i doubt it. i been doing alot of research. i think im safe. as she would have to prove it and i can out prove her on her own deal. she said her car was fine as its not. i told her all the flaws of my car except that. in my emial i told her the light was on and i took it off inwitch turns off the abs inwitch brakes still work {am i right just abs doesnt} alot of ppl know how troubled 99 up stangs r with abs. altho i told her after the deal was done. cause she wanted a email wanting to know all bout the car again. so she must have del my first emails.
she hid things from me and lied and i failed to mention the abs fuse was pulled {the fuse i pulled was just for the light on the cluster}
the bill of sell says the car is sold as is with out warranties, express or implied, as to the condtion of the car. by accepting the bill of sell buyer/trasneree have personally inspected the car and accepts car AS IS and she signed it and dated it.
to top if off the ladys last name is scaman
lmao
the vehical is safe as it still stops. i drove it 2 hrs to trade her. if i go to court i pulled it 8 months ago b4 we parked it. and when spring came and i found her to trade i had forgotten till after the deal was done...cause she emailed me wanting to know bout the car. {witch b4 the trade i made a email with full description and video along with many many pictures}
as for it not being safe i drove to so cal from WA with the abs light on.
so yes i for got to tell her till after the deal was done but it was a as is deal. i didnt even need to email her back but i did and mentioned it.
any other thoughts?
i just dnt want to have to go to court over a stupid ass deal. 1 i have a 4mo old at home and its 2 hrs away.
99 up abs is easy to fix the tech you took to has his head up his ass.
the brakes may work on the mustang but the anti lock doesn't so she only has to prove you didn't tell at the time of the sell or trade an she feels unsafe drive it with the abs not working
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SlowStockFox
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well the brakes are bad on this van and i had a sell forum stating the miles and a emailing saying the brakes are good. i can prove i havent put over 200 miles on the car. so brakes to go bad that quick must have been less then 10percent. so im not safe lol
i have all kinds of emails. so we could both have each others ass really.
but as the brakes being bad is a part of as is but she told me they where good. so i dnt care and i will just replace them.
since she wanted me to re email her about the car. she doesnt have my first email about the car. so therefor she must have del it and cant prove i never told her bout it.
so my question is should i even be worrying bout this?
i didnt hide it i forgot to tell her as i had forgot. witch i know that wont hold up much in court but what ever. i wasnt trying to be shady. as i even told her the rear end clicks she says i dnt care my friend owns a shop. i think that would make it less safe then abs being turned off.
sorry im ranting she just has me a lil pissed.
since i got the van ive replaced like 6 fuse, had to give it a oil change as it was 3 qts low. top off the coolant and bunch of other things she failed to mention and said was up to par.
ne one else wanna chme in
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she has proff u did alter the abs by in ur email you wrote saying u pulled the fuse to turn the light off. theres your guilty plee. sorry ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
but again ur car still had functional brakes just not abs. so u might have a little wooden stump of a leg to stand on ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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SlowStockFox
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so i told her to be honest. she cant prove it that i never told her in my first email or she would have never wnt me to re send it.
brakes work fine i drove 200 miles like that. i pulled the fuse to get the light off.
as many ppl have bought and sold me things know i am not shady. so it was bought as is. she should be able to do shit...right ive googled WA law and from that and my bill of sell it dnt matter. plus she delt with me in emails and on phone. car wasnt in my name. but in my gf names. so my gf can say she never knew and she knows nothing bout a car. and it was all me not her. so she shouldnt be able to sue my gurl as she never delt with her.
yea?
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well the brakes are bad on this van and i had a sell forum stating the miles and a emailing saying the brakes are good. i can prove i havent put over 200 miles on the car. so brakes to go bad that quick must have been less then 10percent. so im not safe lol
i have all kinds of emails. so we could both have each others ass really.
but as the brakes being bad is a part of as is but she told me they where good. so i dnt care and i will just replace them.
since she wanted me to re email her about the car. she doesnt have my first email about the car. so therefor she must have del it and cant prove i never told her bout it.
so my question is should i even be worrying bout this?
i didnt hide it i forgot to tell her as i had forgot. witch i know that wont hold up much in court but what ever. i wasnt trying to be shady. as i even told her the rear end clicks she says i dnt care my friend owns a shop. i think that would make it less safe then abs being turned off.
sorry im ranting she just has me a lil pissed.
since i got the van ive replaced like 6 fuse, had to give it a oil change as it was 3 qts low. top off the coolant and bunch of other things she failed to mention and said was up to par.
ne one else wanna chme in
really sounds like you traded on peace of shit for a other peace off shit.
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SlowStockFox
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cant you tell in my email im trying to be legit and cool bout the deal and even going to send her work orders i had found and even the extra key. she can fuck off now as i aint sending her a fucking thing
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SlowStockFox
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well u can say that. but im not mad as all as i can fix the shit. witch it was a good deal as the stang was worth like 3k the van books for high 7. i gave the stang and 800 bucks. so what ever. she tryed to sell it and got no luck. so she delt with me. in the middle of trying to do the deal her cl add went from trade to single mom being evicted....but after i tlkd to her agin she was going on vacation. she just seems like a scammer and it fits her last name...scaman
i even did the trade with no title...i got a avidavid paper from dmv singed by a clerk. witch was legit but fuck...must have kept the others away lol. i got it registered. she got the mustang smogged and registered. she must be ok and driving fine and most of all safe.
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if you lied to her about the ABS then thats fraud. I've been watching a lot of judge judy lately and saw a similar case. lol. If you tryed to cover some problem up with the car and she can prove it then she can get her money back. better hope she doesnt find this post
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plain and simple dont do nobody dirty and it will not come back on you thats the way i think and live... not talkin shit just stating the striaght up truth.... good luck with the issue
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SlowStockFox
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i didnt hide it from her. i told her everything and stated there prob more im for getting. trade was done. then i re emailed her at her requested and told her all the services etc as i did b4 and added a few other thing. suchs as the abs, more pictures and lil more in detail of a few things. it was wrote as is and that was teh deal. i wasnt being shady on it. if i wntd to be shady i wouldnt have told her and just let her figure it out and told her it was the previous owners doing.
all in all i hope nthing happens as i will try to counter sue her and throw a huge fight.
it in no way puts her in harms way with the abs not working. it was a for gotten detail b4 the trade as she also failed to mention some problems. atleast i toild her so she can get it fixed.
many know i dnt do shady deals and most the time low ball my own self from making a buck.
oh well i guess ill let you know what happens....if anything does
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