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Author Topic: Do you think the new bill passed in Arizona is wrong?
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Arizona stepped up and filled the void where the Federal Government left.

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Originally posted by 306mustang:
and they made all there money legit not no dirty money.

not paying taxes is not legit, how could they come here illegally and pay taxes b4 they became legal?
You make it sound like it was tax avasion. I'm just going to throw this out their I 100% guarantee you MOST illegals would be more then willing, hell they might even be flat out happy to pay taxes every year in exchange for a green card. Also NO ONE is tax free they buy groceries right? Anything you buy in a store has sales tax on it so think of it as the wet back tax contribution dry your eyes and continue about your business
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Originally posted by onesicklx:
the only illegals are those white europeans that made this racist law, i am nican tlaca and i should free to roam my continent..

nican tlaca? wtf is that? last time i checked your land has been taken over and fenced up, and if your living in arizona your getting shipped back! and if your an actual injun, then get smart and start your own casino, then you can roam any continent you want. come get some!
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Originally posted by 23109:
that's funny that you think white people won't do those jobs because I was in carolina and they had mcdonalds with all white people working there. I was the only jose for fuckin miles. I think saying white people couldn't do those jobs is FUCKING STUPID.

Who said white people? Show me and ill kick em in the nuts...lol. And we are not talkin about Mc D's more like agriculture. And yes they will get better jobs and yaddi yadda. But more than likely the grower will have to pay more for that worker, which transfers the cost to us as the consumer. And there is more of that around. Like I said there are those that do dirt and shit. But there is a tremendous upside to them being here. This country was built on the backs of immigrants both legal and otherwise. From the countries inception it has been this way. This is a problem that will not see a resolution in our lifetime and you can count on that.
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first of all, i doubt any of us have read the law. so its safe to say that all of these opinions are based on what we have seen and heard on the news.so let me give my uneducated opinion. we have all been profiled for ever evertime you buy alcohal you are asked to see your id based one how old you look. its the law! this might not be the perfict answer but its a step in the right direction. illegal is illegal
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Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
everybody supports illegal aliens
1 when you go to mcdonalds
2 when you go to a car wash
3 when they clean the bathrooms @ work were you take a shit @
why bitch about it no white person is going to clean bathrooms or flip burgers or do the labor work for 9 dollars an hour.

that some rasict bullshit your saying right there
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n8 the saleen guy said white people.

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Originally posted by uncle bill:
first of all, i doubt any of us have read the law. so its safe to say that all of these opinions are based on what we have seen and heard on the news.so let me give my uneducated opinion. we have all been profiled for ever evertime you buy alcohal you are asked to see your id based one how old you look. its the law! this might not be the perfict answer but its a step in the right direction. illegal is illegal

but being logic doesn't work for people that think there victims an being held back by the nation's laws
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this law looks really sketchy to me. What "REASON" is there to suspect someone is illegal. not knowing how to speak english?? being a certain color?? driving a lowrider??i really would like to know how they are going to be enforcing this law. i know i would be Piiiissed if i got pulled over because i sopposedly look illegal. only think illegal the cop would get from me is a big ass middle finger in his face. I do agree that we should be cracking down on immigrants coming thru illegally and drug cartels, but not from this approach. - thats my opinion

"Arizona's law orders immigrants to carry their alien registration documents at all times and requires police to question people if there's REASON to suspect they're in the United States illegally."- CNN

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Originally posted by uncle bill:
first of all, i doubt any of us have read the law. so its safe to say that all of these opinions are based on what we have seen and heard on the news.so let me give my uneducated opinion. we have all been profiled for ever evertime you buy alcohal you are asked to see your id based one how old you look. its the law! this might not be the perfict answer but its a step in the right direction. illegal is illegal

patronage in a store is not a good correlation to a law of this nature. Like I said earlier, I like the step they took. But I think it is too aggressive and Arizona as a state will pay for this one. And all in all this sets the country back quite a few years in principle. I doubt they retrain their officers. So there will be gross negligence all up and down this one. I can see the lawsuits stackin up quite easily. Arizona is already a arm pit, this will take it to asshole status.
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Originally posted by 23109:
n8 the saleen guy said white people.

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some of you people better take alook around. there are illegals driving trucks, building houses as foundation carpenters, framers, electritions, plumbers, painters you name it. sure theyre also housekeepers and farmworkers but dont kid yourself thats all they do. thats an old cry. and the sale tax argument give me a break.

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Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Unconstitutional? Who do you think the constitution protects? US Citizens, not illegal aliens. If your legal show your documents, if your not go straight back to where you came from. 30% of all inmates in our prison system are illegal aliens. I'm sure there are a bunch of hard working illegals but they need to work harder at getting a green card first. If you cant get a green card, your lazy in my book and a law breaker so you get jail!

And if your a suspicious looking brown person, its a great way to pull your ass over and find out what kind of drugs you got. If you dont have anything, then have a nice day.

wow,, really, where do you get your facts mr.?

how about if you look like a crackhead white guy we should be able to pull you over for "no reason" aka racial profiling and harass you.. hmmm think about that bubba

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
ur not gonna catch my brown ass driving in Arizona. Shit i'm legal and get harassed enough here in cali. Imagine being in Arizona F*k that.

exactly, thats some bull shit, arizona and their shitty as laws like their speeding cameras on the freeways

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Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Unconstitutional? Who do you think the constitution protects? US Citizens, not illegal aliens. If your legal show your documents, if your not go straight back to where you came from. 30% of all inmates in our prison system are illegal aliens. I'm sure there are a bunch of hard working illegals but they need to work harder at getting a green card first. If you cant get a green card, your lazy in my book and a law breaker so you get jail!

And if your a suspicious looking brown person, its a great way to pull your ass over and find out what kind of drugs you got. If you dont have anything, then have a nice day.

wow,, really, where do you get your facts mr.?

how about if you look like a crackhead white guy we should be able to pull you over for "no reason" aka racial profiling and harass you.. hmmm think about that bubba

i do think a crackhead that is drivibg down the street should get pulled over an checked out.
an for you caford folks that think illegals are just have brown skin you may want to get out an look around.

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Originally posted by Termin8Him:
this law looks really sketchy to me. What "REASON" is there to suspect someone is illegal. not knowing how to speak english?? being a certain color?? driving a lowrider??i really would like to know how they are going to be enforcing this law. i know i would be Piiiissed if i got pulled over because i sopposedly look illegal. only think illegal the cop would get from me is a big ass middle finger in his face. I do agree that we should be cracking down on immigrants coming thru illegally and drug cartels, but not from this approach. - thats my opinion

"Arizona's law orders immigrants to carry their alien registration documents at all times and requires police to question people if there's REASON to suspect they're in the United States illegally."- CNN

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exactly, the police should actually policing the community not doing the border patrols job..

P.S. also about the taxes thing, i know personally plenty of people who pay taxes with a fake social and they don't get shit back in taxes every year. [Embarrassed]

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Originally posted by fasthatch:
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Originally posted by SF89lLx:
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Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Unconstitutional? Who do you think the constitution protects? US Citizens, not illegal aliens. If your legal show your documents, if your not go straight back to where you came from. 30% of all inmates in our prison system are illegal aliens. I'm sure there are a bunch of hard working illegals but they need to work harder at getting a green card first. If you cant get a green card, your lazy in my book and a law breaker so you get jail!

And if your a suspicious looking brown person, its a great way to pull your ass over and find out what kind of drugs you got. If you dont have anything, then have a nice day.

wow,, really, where do you get your facts mr.?

how about if you look like a crackhead white guy we should be able to pull you over for "no reason" aka racial profiling and harass you.. hmmm think about that bubba

i do think a crackhead that is drivibg down the street should get pulled over an checked out.
an for you caford folks that think illegals are just have brown skin you may want to get out an look around.

thats the problem, how are the police in az going to enforce and apply this law , i know there are plenty of illegals that arent "brown" but the "brown" people are those that are going to get fucked with anyways, besides I know that police already profile people automatically, and this law is just going to open the door to abuse their power more. like i said before UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and this unconsitutinoality doesnt apply to illegals but to those legal citizens that happen to have brown skin or really good tans, shit it is arizona!

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I'd rather get pulled over a few times and get checked out if it means we will have less people driving around with no Green Cards, no insurance, and no reason to stick around if they break any laws. How many people jump across the boarders after they do dirt? How many people transport drugs across the boarder?

IMO I think it's a step in the right direction as far as protecting our boarders..... Next we need to build a real wall on the boarder and have guards watching it. Go to another country and see what you have to go through to to get in.

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BORN IN MEXICO NOW A [patriot] CITIZEN . MAKE MORE THAN THE WHITE GUYS IN MY COMPANY [Razz] AND IM NOT CLEANING NO TOILETS

P.S. FUCK YOU RACIST POS AND YALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE

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I heard arizona has some fucked up jails for aliens...I heard they stick them in jails in the middle of nowhere and make them sleep on dirt and all types of cruel stuff, like animals ..from what I heard that's where they send them before the deport them...in my opinion arrest the ones that are breaking laws ,like stealing,drunk driving ,wife beating,and creating gangs that don't belong here ...I mean damn ...we can do with out the crimes and who really likes the color blue anyways....haha..na but for realz that's fucked up

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Originally posted by SLPR93:
BORN IN MEXICO NOW A [patriot] CITIZEN . MAKE MORE THAN THE WHITE GUYS IN MY COMPANY [Razz] AND IM NOT CLEANING NO TOILETS

P.S. FUCK YOU RACIST POS AND YALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE

right there with you dude. Alot of good opinions on this topic but ALOT ignorant ones too. some people just cant understand whats going on. someone said the constituion is to protect its citizens. how about the hispanic citizens that are going to be harassed just by the way they look.thats not protection.

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sf89lx... man oh man, are you really going to say " i know personally plenty of people who pay taxes with a fake social and they don't get shit back in taxes every year" as fuckin if they are now victims.

u amaze me every time you post something. your location says disneyland and its because thats where your brain is...

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Are we in the 21st century? Or are we still stuck in the Jim crow era? People don't understand that this law is not going to affect "mexicans" Latinos, but anyone no matter if u look white. Their are hundreds of cases every year where people get arrested by immigration officers for Not having there papers in hand eventhough there legal here. And even cases of people that have been deported and there citizens here without comitting a crime. And all they get is an I'm sorry from the government. I just feel that this law is going to bring a lot of law suits and that's is why even police officers from Arizona don't agree with this. And for the last time legal or not we all pay taxes. And Latinos are not the only immigrants here we all are.

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Originally posted by onesicklx:
the only illegals are those white europeans that made this racist law, i am nican tlaca and i should free to roam my continent..

you should be free to learn the English language, or at least download fire fox!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
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Originally posted by 306mustang:
and they made all there money legit not no dirty money.

not paying taxes is not legit, how could they come here illegally and pay taxes b4 they became legal?
You make it sound like it was tax avasion. I'm just going to throw this out their I 100% guarantee you MOST illegals would be more then willing, hell they might even be flat out happy to pay taxes every year in exchange for a green card. Also NO ONE is tax free they buy groceries right? Anything you buy in a store has sales tax on it so think of it as the wet back tax contribution dry your eyes and continue about your business
think again, you're a f#$king retard dry your cu%t you fagot and grow up all of us pay double tax! didn't you read my post "and the rich get richer" are you 12 or just an illegal don't post again you moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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