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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Nate, from the PM's listed I do put you at "part fault" completely. You're being cheap with this work, demanding refunds, paperwork, being a prick in front of someones family etc. I don't blame anyone for "cutting ties" after seeing "how you get down."

Move on, pay good money for quality repairs and happily drive your Mustang. You did get some work for the money you paid, so you are not worse off (that may not make sense to you in your current state of mind.) The work may have exaserbated (sp?) a problem that wasn't so big, but now the car is in trusted hands.

You and your son can enjoy a strong running car, goodluck Nate! Stop acting like you're always the victim man.

For the record, I do not know Dave IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM! He was undercutting my heater core replacement prices but I've got the feedback I do so no worries at all!

**edit: Regarding the car being promised to be indoors etc, that's not cool unless you were told when the car was dropped off or prior. I've done two heater cores for people who've left their cars in my possession/garage for a weekend, not a chance would I have taken them out of the garage for more than a car wash (to be nice.)

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Ok you missed the point and are waaaay off base. The receipt thing was something agreed to way in advance. And this is because if I ever sell the car I want proof stuff was done. So it was not nothing new. Also I never was cheap with him not one bit. He said it needed to be fixed I pnied up the cash or parts to have it done. He offered the cam fix as a upgrade that would make my car faster. Those that know me know I dont care about that. It was one of those "well while we are doing this may was well do that kind of repair". Also no physical confrontation occurred until after I was told my car was fixed and it was not. Then he proceeded to duck and lie to me. And finally good money was paid to him to fix my car, not make it worse. he problem between him and I only happened after I was told my car was done. So if you believe he is entitled to keep my money that I paid for the repairs all good to you. But I know you will never fix anything of mine nor will I purchase anything from you. Maybe you misunderstand the situation but whatever. If you take your repairs to him your a fool. Even Lee his business partner is mind boggled behind this one.

Also did I mention he swapped my battery and put a dent in my car...lol. Now I think about it. Your a joke if you think I am at fault.

Read the entire thread before the comment, as the pms posted were to discredit his point about something. They were in no ways a total summary what transpired. Also you can PM dan, lee or herman, for a summary of the condition my car is now compared to what is delivered to him in. I mean shit wasnt even tightened down. Dan quickly pointed ou shotty work 10 secs of having the hood popped. But according to you that is money well spent and I should move on...lol

Read the full thread.

[ February 06, 2010, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]

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Originally posted by ice:
Ckeck my IP lol Ive never been a member here friends are and Ive lurked for a long time.

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You don't need to tell anyone here that you've lurked here for a long time. Several people above already pointed that out.

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Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.

I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still get help from them to this day.

It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.

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lol....you combined a millions posts into one.
1. I never said I was strapped for cash not a once. If he would have said it was necessary the cash was there. But it was nothing needed as he said so I bypassed it. I am not interested in going fast.

2. Running up on him was necessary to catch him, because of the bullshit he was pulling. When I caught him, he just lied about where he was at and was attempting to avoid me meanwhile my car was stranded at a gas station and he was not taking my calls. Oh yea prior to that he had murmured something obscene towards me and hung up. Hell yea I ran up on his ass.

3. Yes I make over 100k, yes I bench over 400, yes I box and have never been afraid to fight. So. And? Is that a reason for me to be done wrong? Everyone that has met me and those that havent will tell you I am cool as the other side of the bed. Not a one person can tell you that I am a ass or does anything shady to anyone. And most anything I post in regards to or reply to a thread. There was a 100k post and 6 pages of people posted their income yet I am immature. There was a thread about lifting weights and p90. $ pages of people posting their stats yet I am wrong. I get 5 requests for advice by pm about me shredding to cruiserweight and before and after shots. I post a pic and my experience now I am immature. Someone posts thread about "what do you do for a living" I post that I am a programmer and run my own studio along side of dozens of people that post their occupation yet I am immature.

4. Mustangs are a side hobby for me. I have no need for 20k of parts in it. I would much prefer spending that money on rack servers or my render farm. But because I didnt feel the need to pony up for a fix that was not detrimental to my problem at the time. I am living outside my means...wow, I love opinions but man...lol

So the moral of the story is everyone is welcomed to their opinion and I appreciate yours. And if you feel he is right and I am wrong so be it. If you want to trust him and you would recommend him to friends and family so be it. But best believe that I am human as anyone else. I got irate, lost my temper and almost put my freedom and his health in jeopardy. Am I wrong for that? Yes, because in a court of law I would have no recourse. I will accept that. But if you are saying I deserve the treatment I received. For that I fly the

[ February 06, 2010, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]

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Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.

I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still
get help from them to this day.

It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being
strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good
situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After
building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each
with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get
what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.

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Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.

I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still
get help from them to this day.

It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being
strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good
situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After
building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each
with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get
what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.

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I couldn't have put it better.

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Mine is put better.

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Originally posted by slowback67:

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Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.

I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still
get help from them to this day.

It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being
strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good
situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After
building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each
with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get
what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.

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I couldn't have put it better.

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Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.

I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still get help from them to this day.

It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.

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lol....you combined a millions posts into one.
1. I never said I was strapped for cash not a once. If he would have said it was necessary the cash was there. But it was nothing needed as he said so I bypassed it. I am not interested in going fast.

2. Running up on him was necessary to catch him, because of the bullshit he was pulling. When I caught him, he just lied about where he was at and was attempting to avoid me meanwhile my car was stranded at a gas station and he was not taking my calls. Oh yea prior to that he had murmured something obscene towards me and hung up. Hell yea I ran up on his ass.

3. Yes I make over 100k, yes I bench over 400, yes I box and have never been afraid to fight. So. And? Is that a reason for me to be done wrong? Everyone that has met me and those that havent will tell you I am cool as the other side of the bed. Not a one person can tell you that I am a ass or does anything shady to anyone. And most anything I post in regards to or reply to a thread. There was a 100k post and 6 pages of people posted their income yet I am immature. There was a thread about lifting weights and p90. $ pages of people posting their stats yet I am wrong. I get 5 requests for advice by pm about me shredding to cruiserweight and before and after shots. I post a pic and my experience now I am immature. Someone posts thread about "what do you do for a living" I post that I am a programmer and run my own studio along side of dozens of people that post their occupation yet I am immature.

4. Mustangs are a side hobby for me. I have no need for 20k of parts in it. I would much prefer spending that money on rack servers or my render farm. But because I didnt feel the need to pony up for a fix that was not detrimental to my problem at the time. I am living outside my means...wow, I love opinions but man...lol

So the moral of the story is everyone is welcomed to their opinion and I appreciate yours. And if you feel he is right and I am wrong so be it. If you want to trust him and you would recommend him to friends and family so be it. But best believe that I am human as anyone else. I got irate, lost my temper and almost put my freedom and his health in jeopardy. Am I wrong for that? Yes, because in a court of law I would have no recourse. I will accept that. But if you are saying I deserve the treatment I received. For that I fly the

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Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.

I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still get help from them to this day.

It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.

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Just wanted to add, outside of your obvious disdain for me behind things that have nothing to do with this situation (weights, income...). I treated Dave with nothing but respect. I never questioned his motives or recommendations, so much so I listened to him when he went against Lees recommendation and then even still gave him the benefit of the the doubt when he doubled back and said the problem was the cam (oh but you guys said I deserve that...lol). Keep in mind we only had a problem when he dogged me out and then tried to hide from me. Not a one problem. If he had said Nate you need a new motor. Guess what I would ponying up for a new motor and he would have been putting it in. I took him as a man of his word is my only fault. My only FAULT. You mention AED, JohnB.... I bet things wee handled in a respectful and professional manner. Not lying, hiding and avoidance. So the problem here is you guys are comparing apples and oranges. But what I need to keep in mind is the guys commenting against me are the ones that have not met me personally. Ask around, I am not some internet tough guy that bullies and brags. I am cool as fuck, if I werent me I would wanna be my best friend. I am that cool.

But back to topic. The dude is incompetent and I would not recommend him. "."

[ February 06, 2010, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]

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I know you will never fix anything of mine nor will I purchase anything from you.

Even Lee his business partner is mind boggled behind this one.

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Handle the rest over pm's or phone calls.

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Originally posted by 68bullitt390:
you crank your "pedestal" rockers down to 100lbs, it aint gonna run, your gonna ruin a motor and have bent pushrods, done it been there... try it sometime, its fun... I've been wrenching on 5.0's since '84, not just reading books and magazines.

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Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Whether or not Nates a braggart, roided up, racist gorilla doesnt mean some asshole wannabe mechanic is allowed to allow a customer to be completely unhappy about the work or the service they were paid for. When you take on a job you take on a customer regardless of whether or not you are license or own your own business. Sounds like all Nate wants is some money back and then be done with it. He's got an attitude about it because the way the deal went down was shady as hell. And now because he called him out on the overall quality of his work, dude ducks and dodges him instead of contacting him to solve the situation where he can be happy? The end result is too one sided for anybody to ignore because in the end Dr. Shadetree still has his money and the customer remains unhappy.

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Originally posted by sac 5.0:
come on now/////when you go buy a new car do they say it will make noise till it breaks in.........get real you are a fool if you belive that.do they say you breaks will make noise till they break in.....how do you get a exhaust leak then go to getting your heads machined to getting a cam to a rod knock.......if its in good hands know good for you just chalk it up as a loss.keep lees name out of it if you dont blame him.why bring his name up if you dont blame him?
and no i dont know any of you guys but if you dont know what is wrong with a car why would you trust some no name on some web site you go on that you have never met...........

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Originally posted by sac 5.0:
come on now/////when you go buy a new car do they say it will make noise till it breaks in.........get real you are a fool if you belive that.do they say you breaks will make noise till they break in.....how do you get a exhaust leak then go to getting your heads machined to getting a cam to a rod knock.......if its in good hands know good for you just chalk it up as a loss.keep lees name out of it if you dont blame him.why bring his name up if you dont blame him?
and no i dont know any of you guys but if you dont know what is wrong with a car why would you trust some no name on some web site you go on that you have never met...........

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