Originally posted by 90FoX:
Wow! I'm sorry you had to deal with this n8.
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Book smarts? From my experience with him online he seemed illiterate....just my .02
quote:Oh I know where to find him. But I have managed to cool down so I hope he takes the high route and contacts Lee for a amicable remedy. We are both family men and he has to be fully aware of how wrong he is. I know everyone around him is aware (his friends included).
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
damn N8...aint that some shit! I say you handle it. Get your money back and then stop him out! hahaha. Bad business aint no joke...he better man up, because if he dont, I'm sure a few people here know him personally and can lead you directly to him...which may turn ugly for him. HANDLE IT!
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guess he needs to know how to work on cars for a start! on another note! turbo50 seems like he is the man for the job! he knows his shit, just chatting with him through pms you can tell.
quote:ya his spelling/grammar was really bad! but he acted like he knew it all! he didnt.
Originally posted by 90FoX:
Wow! I'm sorry you had to deal with this n8.
Book smarts? From my experience with him online he seemed illiterate....just my .02
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quote:
Originally posted by 90GTSleeepr:
What a fucking fag! Fuck fake ass mechanic no it all bitches like Dave. You fucking fake ass bitch! Your shits weak like your fucking skillz, how the fuck do you take your ride to someone and your shit gets worse? Stop smoking/snorting/injecting whatever drugs your on. Now your ducking and dodging like a little fucking coward? You chickenshit dickless piece of shit! Were you born with that mangina or did your dick and balls shrivel up and suck into your body? MAN UP and make this right otherwise you should be banned for life.
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quote:
Originally posted by 90GTSleeepr:
What a fucking fag! Fuck fake ass mechanic no it all bitches like Dave. You fucking fake ass bitch! Your shits weak like your fucking skillz, how the fuck do you take your ride to someone and your shit gets worse? Stop smoking/snorting/injecting whatever drugs your on. Now your ducking and dodging like a little fucking coward? You chickenshit dickless piece of shit! Were you born with that mangina or did your dick and balls shrivel up and suck into your body? MAN UP and make this right otherwise you should be banned for life.
my sentiments EXACTLY
quote:Yeah N8 your a fucking asshole for thinking that he could actually take care of your vehicle. Then you actually pay the son of a bitch to do work when the fucktard wouldnt have anything else to do except for playing with his my little ponies and barbie dolls. Shame on you for fucking up his playtime. Then you actually question his unquestionable quality of work. You deserve all of this for hooking him up with cash in a bad economy! And it sounds like any other motherfucker that sends his car to him deserves it too!
Originally posted by N8:
Like they say, there are 2 sides to every story. I would love to hear his. I would love to see how this can be spun to be my fault.
quote:I have no clue what he did or what he was supposed to do. That was his job. And you are right I do have a ton to lose fucking around with a low-life like this. But like I said it is a extremely good thing my wife stopped me. As time passes my jets will cool, making it easier for us to end this on somewhat a positive note. He can contact me or Lee for what that note is.
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Nate, sorry to hear about this.
I'm curious, what did he end up doing, and what in your mind was he supposed to do?
Hopefully you guys can get this resolved.
I do think it's time to shake the tough guy threats as I know you are more level headed than that, especially with a family and several homes to protect.
Best of Luck!
quote:Shouldnt go that far. I am hoping Dave will do what is right. But the fact will still remain that he did me wrong on this. And it should be known to all that he is this type of person.
Originally posted by bigjerry:
This is gonna be intersting to read for the next few days......
quote:+1 to that.
Originally posted by bigjerry:
This is gonna be intersting to read for the next few days......
quote:I agree as well.
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Nate, sorry to hear about this.
I'm curious, what did he end up doing, and what in your mind was he supposed to do?
Hopefully you guys can get this resolved.
I do think it's time to shake the tough guy threats as I know you are more level headed than that, especially with a family and several homes to protect.
Best of Luck!
quote:funk that, I know moron's that have been wrenching for years and still can't do a half ass job using their whole ass! Sucks to hear what happened but hopefully he'll at least explain what happened. If he can man up, admit he made a mistake and fix it then you can't hammer him too hard. I think the witch hunt mentality is what will keep him from coming on here and saying anything though. Good luck with the car N8, at least it's in good hands.
Originally posted by blown95svt:
book smart is one thing! but it doesnt replace experience!
quote:I failed to mention that I have extended the olive branch many times before this. But like I said it needs to be known that he did this to me as to prevent him from doing it to another. My goal is not to get a band of folks to ride on him. But then again this is the only way I can communicate with him at the moment. I am sure he will come here to defend himself. As I too want to hear his side of the story.
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:funk that, I know moron's that have been wrenching for years and still can't do a half ass job using their whole ass! Sucks to hear what happened but hopefully he'll at least explain what happened. If he can man up, admit he made a mistake and fix it then you can't hammer him too hard. I think the witch hunt mentality is what will keep him from coming on here and saying anything though. Good luck with the car N8, at least it's in good hands.
Originally posted by blown95svt:
book smart is one thing! but it doesnt replace experience!
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quote:I knew his ass couldn't change a heater core as fast as he was saying without cutting corners somewhere.
Originally posted by 06Xrunner:
Yes I completely agree fasthatch is a COMPLETE hack, he put a heater core is a mustang for me, the interior was greasy, he stripped paint off under the hood, didn't recharge the a/c as promised, the dash is loose, the heater selector no longer works, didn't even spray out the heater box, got refrigerant EVERYWHERE, etc. I could keep going but yeah fasthatch doesn't know what he is doing and DO NOT trust him to work on your car.
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He also broke the center heater vent and control plastic piece.
quote:The car came in with a exhaust leak sound (Lee and Herman can verfy this), his diagnosis was a head gasket change. Lee's recommendation was a Cam change. Car makes it to Dan's house in worse shape than I bought it to Dave. Shit all loose and mangled and with a rod knock. As for what should have been the diagnosis, I have no clue which is why I wanted a mechanic on it. Really isnt much details missin. Then there is the fringe stuff like a dent in my bumper (rear), my missing battery, engine bay not steam cleaned like he said would. Oh did I mention it now has a rod knock.
Originally posted by BlowN67:
what was the problem of car prior?
what was diagnosed?
whats should of been diagnose?
In respect to both of you why dont you write it out better than just an attack. write it as what the problem was what he di an what he did to make it worse. just seems like alot of details missing.
quote:easy to say, and believe me I am in and out of that level. But truth of the matter is I have a family, and have to run a business. At the end of the day he is gambling with funny money and I am not.
Originally posted by ice:
Just put the hands on him! Whoopin someones ass isnt 25 to life.
quote:
Originally posted by BlowN67:
what was the problem of car prior?
what was diagnosed?
whats should of been diagnose?
In respect to both of you why dont you write it out better than just an attack. write it as what the problem was what he di an what he did to make it worse. just seems like alot of details missing.
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so this goes to show that sometimes it can come back and bite you in the ass. quote:Be careful! i would hate to hear that you got over confident and Dave ebded up puttin you to sleep lol! sorry to hear about your situation. I hope things work out for you. remember, you get what you pay for! If a deal sounds to good to be true sometimes it is. Even though you might have spent a little more money at a reputable shop your car would be fixed and you would not be pissed! remember you can't put a price tag on piece of mind!
Originally posted by N8:
quote:easy to say, and believe me I am in and out of that level. But truth of the matter is I have a family, and have to run a business. At the end of the day he is gambling with funny money and I am not.
Originally posted by ice:
Just put the hands on him! Whoopin someones ass isnt 25 to life.
quote:Well when he first responded to my post he said he would but within a few minutes of him saying that he edited the post and deleted what he said about sending me part of my money back... So nope I never got anything back from him. It was my Mothers car that he replaced the heater core in and now her heater doesn't work for shit because it doesn't switch off of defrost, its not hot anymore, her dash squeaks, and it stinks of antifreeze inside when you turn the heater on. The whole situation really pisses me off! I heard good things about him (despite my apprehension because of his horrible grammar) and liked the price so I went for it. I will NEVER make that mistake again! Next time I will just do it on my own or get someone reputable to do it. I've done it plenty of times before but was feeling lazy and didn't want to mess with it, lesson learned!
Originally posted by N8:
06 X-runner didnt he give you part of your money back?
quote:Well in here you say maybe multiple problems? You didnt question the same things I did and I dont even have a shop. The fact is how in the world could you say headgaskets or a cam is bad by a sound, a sound related to an exhaust leak. This isnt even a shade tree business its retarded, and if you could somehow find a way to even partialy defend a baboon like this guy you yourself should be questioned. Let me guess you have "FIXED" a few cars then found other problems CAUSED by the fix you did? LMAO get the fuck out! Its called misdiagnosed. Ive never heard a "mechanic" say misdiagnosed until another mechanic see's the car then says yup the other guy misdiagnosed the car. The fact a cam swap and headgasket change was recomended by a sound is a red flag in my book. If you dont have a book you need one cause sounds is the least part of diagnosing a vehicle.
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
this is just my two cents, but anytime i do work or change somethin on a customers car by law i have to contact , document, and keep the part to show the customer what i was talkin about,so if he swapped your battery he should have to show you with a test that your battery was no good, i have had a couple people bring me battery's in there car and i had to charge and go thru the procedures to make sure there in deed bad . second he didnt keep your car inside when he said he would would of cost me any customer, cars are more important to them than some of there girlfreinds lol. and if i remember right this is the same car we where all arguin over what was wrong bout less than a month back? maybe you had mutiple problems, did he ever show you your blown heads gaskets?ive done a couple fresh top ends on bad bottom ends, and they would go out. i wont even warranty any motor unless i do the whole job motor from scratch, for reasons like maybe this. maybe not you, but how would i have any idea how the condition of this motor is before the coustmer brought it me.specialy if i never heard it run or not run, even if it was running was it running extremly bad? maybe that blown cly hid the rod knock due to no compression.and i have seen mutiple problems mis diagnosis as one.and just saying for the record its almost imposible to get a rod knock in your average 50, just saying you would almost have to delibrately fuck it up if the motor was even half in decent shape.i cant imagine him doing it on purpose,and he sounds intelligent i would of never seen this coming from him , and as for his writing skills that means nothing at all. i dont knows whos is worse his or mine lol. my fault is i was never into school, i was already working on cars before high school an never finished. my own bad for sure! but there aint much writing going on in a mechanic shop , very minimal at best lol. regardless he shouldnt of be dodgein you no matter what! unless he just scared as hell of you, but remember maybe multiple problems do happen quite often. i hope you guys work it out you guys are old sckool in my book of being on here. i dont know him anybetter than i know you. but both of you have always seemed way cool.
quote:LOL
Originally posted by ice:
quote:But I warn you Im a very good keybord warroir, infact Im ninja status.
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
this is just my two cents, but anytime i do work or change somethin on a customers car by law i have to contact , document, and keep the part to show the customer what i was talkin about,so if he swapped your battery he should have to show you with a test that your battery was no good, i have had a couple people bring me battery's in there car and i had to charge and go thru the procedures to make sure there in deed bad . second he didnt keep your car inside when he said he would would of cost me any customer, cars are more important to them than some of there girlfreinds lol. and if i remember right this is the same car we where all arguin over what was wrong bout less than a month back? maybe you had mutiple problems, did he ever show you your blown heads gaskets?ive done a couple fresh top ends on bad bottom ends, and they would go out. i wont even warranty any motor unless i do the whole job motor from scratch, for reasons like maybe this. maybe not you, but how would i have any idea how the condition of this motor is before the coustmer brought it me.specialy if i never heard it run or not run, even if it was running was it running extremly bad? maybe that blown cly hid the rod knock due to no compression.and i have seen mutiple problems mis diagnosis as one.and just saying for the record its almost imposible to get a rod knock in your average 50, just saying you would almost have to delibrately fuck it up if the motor was even half in decent shape.i cant imagine him doing it on purpose,and he sounds intelligent i would of never seen this coming from him , and as for his writing skills that means nothing at all. i dont knows whos is worse his or mine lol. my fault is i was never into school, i was already working on cars before high school an never finished. my own bad for sure! but there aint much writing going on in a mechanic shop , very minimal at best lol. regardless he shouldnt of be dodgein you no matter what! unless he just scared as hell of you, but remember maybe multiple problems do happen quite often. i hope you guys work it out you guys are old sckool in my book of being on here. i dont know him anybetter than i know you. but both of you have always seemed way cool.
quote:Its never too late to learn how to write man. How you portray yourself on the board will have some influence on if people will come to you or not.
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
this is just my two cents, but anytime i do work or change somethin on a customers car by law i have to contact , document, and keep the part to show the customer what i was talkin about,so if he swapped your battery he should have to show you with a test that your battery was no good, i have had a couple people bring me battery's in there car and i had to charge and go thru the procedures to make sure there in deed bad . second he didnt keep your car inside when he said he would would of cost me any customer, cars are more important to them than some of there girlfreinds lol. and if i remember right this is the same car we where all arguin over what was wrong bout less than a month back? maybe you had mutiple problems, did he ever show you your blown heads gaskets?ive done a couple fresh top ends on bad bottom ends, and they would go out. i wont even warranty any motor unless i do the whole job motor from scratch, for reasons like maybe this. maybe not you, but how would i have any idea how the condition of this motor is before the coustmer brought it me.specialy if i never heard it run or not run, even if it was running was it running extremly bad? maybe that blown cly hid the rod knock due to no compression.and i have seen mutiple problems mis diagnosis as one.and just saying for the record its almost imposible to get a rod knock in your average 50, just saying you would almost have to delibrately fuck it up if the motor was even half in decent shape.i cant imagine him doing it on purpose,and he sounds intelligent i would of never seen this coming from him , and as for his writing skills that means nothing at all. i dont knows whos is worse his or mine lol. my fault is i was never into school, i was already working on cars before high school an never finished. my own bad for sure! but there aint much writing going on in a mechanic shop , very minimal at best lol. regardless he shouldnt of be dodgein you no matter what! unless he just scared as hell of you, but remember maybe multiple problems do happen quite often. i hope you guys work it out you guys are old sckool in my book of being on here. i dont know him anybetter than i know you. but both of you have always seemed way cool.
quote:I didnt see either one of these tools defending AED when they had a dispute with a NON paying customer. Its gotta tell you the level of skill they are on. And I bet the non paying customer is now a life long paying customer. Considering the last AED offer put up even after the bashing. Duckin motors and hiding sure showed us a lot about themselves tonight.
Originally posted by adower:
quote:Its never too late to learn how to write man. How you portray yourself on the board will have some influence on if people will come to you or not.
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
this is just my two cents, but anytime i do work or change somethin on a customers car by law i have to contact , document, and keep the part to show the customer what i was talkin about,so if he swapped your battery he should have to show you with a test that your battery was no good, i have had a couple people bring me battery's in there car and i had to charge and go thru the procedures to make sure there in deed bad . second he didnt keep your car inside when he said he would would of cost me any customer, cars are more important to them than some of there girlfreinds lol. and if i remember right this is the same car we where all arguin over what was wrong bout less than a month back? maybe you had mutiple problems, did he ever show you your blown heads gaskets?ive done a couple fresh top ends on bad bottom ends, and they would go out. i wont even warranty any motor unless i do the whole job motor from scratch, for reasons like maybe this. maybe not you, but how would i have any idea how the condition of this motor is before the coustmer brought it me.specialy if i never heard it run or not run, even if it was running was it running extremly bad? maybe that blown cly hid the rod knock due to no compression.and i have seen mutiple problems mis diagnosis as one.and just saying for the record its almost imposible to get a rod knock in your average 50, just saying you would almost have to delibrately fuck it up if the motor was even half in decent shape.i cant imagine him doing it on purpose,and he sounds intelligent i would of never seen this coming from him , and as for his writing skills that means nothing at all. i dont knows whos is worse his or mine lol. my fault is i was never into school, i was already working on cars before high school an never finished. my own bad for sure! but there aint much writing going on in a mechanic shop , very minimal at best lol. regardless he shouldnt of be dodgein you no matter what! unless he just scared as hell of you, but remember maybe multiple problems do happen quite often. i hope you guys work it out you guys are old sckool in my book of being on here. i dont know him anybetter than i know you. but both of you have always seemed way cool.
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quote:ice<---- smacks luke for selling the white coupe. I liked you better when you were actualy using a car for fun, now youre pimping the cars. Give us track numbers not what wheels you think are pretty. I know youre getting ready to sell but...
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:LOL
Originally posted by ice:
quote:But I warn you Im a very good keybord warroir, infact Im ninja status.
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
this is just my two cents, but anytime i do work or change somethin on a customers car by law i have to contact , document, and keep the part to show the customer what i was talkin about,so if he swapped your battery he should have to show you with a test that your battery was no good, i have had a couple people bring me battery's in there car and i had to charge and go thru the procedures to make sure there in deed bad . second he didnt keep your car inside when he said he would would of cost me any customer, cars are more important to them than some of there girlfreinds lol. and if i remember right this is the same car we where all arguin over what was wrong bout less than a month back? maybe you had mutiple problems, did he ever show you your blown heads gaskets?ive done a couple fresh top ends on bad bottom ends, and they would go out. i wont even warranty any motor unless i do the whole job motor from scratch, for reasons like maybe this. maybe not you, but how would i have any idea how the condition of this motor is before the coustmer brought it me.specialy if i never heard it run or not run, even if it was running was it running extremly bad? maybe that blown cly hid the rod knock due to no compression.and i have seen mutiple problems mis diagnosis as one.and just saying for the record its almost imposible to get a rod knock in your average 50, just saying you would almost have to delibrately fuck it up if the motor was even half in decent shape.i cant imagine him doing it on purpose,and he sounds intelligent i would of never seen this coming from him , and as for his writing skills that means nothing at all. i dont knows whos is worse his or mine lol. my fault is i was never into school, i was already working on cars before high school an never finished. my own bad for sure! but there aint much writing going on in a mechanic shop , very minimal at best lol. regardless he shouldnt of be dodgein you no matter what! unless he just scared as hell of you, but remember maybe multiple problems do happen quite often. i hope you guys work it out you guys are old sckool in my book of being on here. i dont know him anybetter than i know you. but both of you have always seemed way cool.
quote:Are you sure about that? Noise and Vibration are huge parts of diagnosing customer complaints. Ever heard of NVH? Probably not...
Originally posted by ice:
If you dont have a book you need one cause sounds is the least part of diagnosing a vehicle.
quote:You added the vibration part but lets play ball. If the car had a vibration part where would you start smart guy?
Originally posted by 93ReefBlue5.0:
quote:Are you sure about that? Noise and Vibration are huge parts of diagnosing customer complaints. Ever heard of NVH? Probably not...
Originally posted by ice:
If you dont have a book you need one cause sounds is the least part of diagnosing a vehicle.
quote:Im not a n8 fan but now its getting stupid. A breaker bar to remove rockers? I mean come on. Can I get a pic of atleat 1 just 1 broken rocker arm? If you torque every arm down to nothing 1 of them is gonna break, a push rod will bend something, and it wont drive! Thats full on bull shit. Id love for haullin or the AED guys to get on here and put all this bull shit to shame. However the real shop owners dont like the bull shit.
Originally posted by racsirx:
Well, I am the one that is stuck in the middle of this, Dave has done work for me for years and I never had a problem, even helped me get my Coupe done. I really dont know anything about the rod knock until today, I didnt hear it when I picked it up the Cobra before the work, but it didnt sound good. But I do know that whoever worked on it last, over tighten the rockers that they had to be broken loose with a breaker bar, and the lifters had groves in them, never saw that before. So I recommended a lifter and cam change but only the lifters were changed.
now i do side jobs as a hobbie.. as my time/health permits.. i only charge about half of what shops charge.. why? cause i work slow. only for 4-5 hours a day & 4-5 days in the week.. quote:very true I know who im taking my car to next time around,
Originally posted by turbo50:
I think Dave might be intimidated by you N8 because you tower over him, like I tower over you.
Regardless I shot you a helluva deal offer and your car will be running great, you and your son will learn tons and we can all put this behind us.
With both of us making close to 100K and having families I really dont think putting hands on anybody is going to solve anything. Even tho I kick boxed for 12 years, threating folks or even thinking about beatin on them is non sense. I hope you are past this too my man.
Jail sux and you can't make good money from there or see your family.
You should be taking that beast to the track or barbeque'n with the family this summer not just getting out of west county.
quote:Yea, I know there was a issue with the car. Which is why I handed it over to what I thought was capable hands. But Lee if you saw what was delivered to Dans house, you would know that there is some gross negligence and incompetence going on. And the icing on the cake is that I was told my car was done. So like I said I am willing to hear his side. But no matter how you cut it. He was paid to fix my car, he not only did not fix it, he created a new worse problem. And switched my battery out. And I have no doubt that as Dan and I work on this we will find more shotty work. I mean he didnt even tight my intake manifold down. And he mangled up my brand new dipstick.
Originally posted by racsirx:
When I was told that the rockers were a pain in the ass to remove, I couldnt believe that the rockers and push rods were OK, but the lifters looked like shit. Also before Dave got the Cobra a valve spring was broken and replaced, so something was wrong there.
quote:Yea I feel you and I told Dave what you said about the cam, then he said "it wasn't a cam issue". Then doubled back and said I need a cam, after everything was put back together. Then said ok, its finished.
Originally posted by racsirx:
I was just giving reason why I wanted the cam checked or changed, since someone saying something about the cam.
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hahahaquote:You have 19 posts & a join date of Jan '10, but you liked me better years ago when I was using my white coupe for fun. Am I understanding that correctly?
Originally posted by ice:
quote:ice<---- smacks luke for selling the white coupe. I liked you better when you were actualy using a car for fun, now youre pimping the cars. Give us track numbers not what wheels you think are pretty. I know youre getting ready to sell but...
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:LOL
Originally posted by ice:
quote:But I warn you Im a very good keybord warroir, infact Im ninja status.
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
this is just my two cents, but anytime i do work or change somethin on a customers car by law i have to contact , document, and keep the part to show the customer what i was talkin about,so if he swapped your battery he should have to show you with a test that your battery was no good, i have had a couple people bring me battery's in there car and i had to charge and go thru the procedures to make sure there in deed bad . second he didnt keep your car inside when he said he would would of cost me any customer, cars are more important to them than some of there girlfreinds lol. and if i remember right this is the same car we where all arguin over what was wrong bout less than a month back? maybe you had mutiple problems, did he ever show you your blown heads gaskets?ive done a couple fresh top ends on bad bottom ends, and they would go out. i wont even warranty any motor unless i do the whole job motor from scratch, for reasons like maybe this. maybe not you, but how would i have any idea how the condition of this motor is before the coustmer brought it me.specialy if i never heard it run or not run, even if it was running was it running extremly bad? maybe that blown cly hid the rod knock due to no compression.and i have seen mutiple problems mis diagnosis as one.and just saying for the record its almost imposible to get a rod knock in your average 50, just saying you would almost have to delibrately fuck it up if the motor was even half in decent shape.i cant imagine him doing it on purpose,and he sounds intelligent i would of never seen this coming from him , and as for his writing skills that means nothing at all. i dont knows whos is worse his or mine lol. my fault is i was never into school, i was already working on cars before high school an never finished. my own bad for sure! but there aint much writing going on in a mechanic shop , very minimal at best lol. regardless he shouldnt of be dodgein you no matter what! unless he just scared as hell of you, but remember maybe multiple problems do happen quite often. i hope you guys work it out you guys are old sckool in my book of being on here. i dont know him anybetter than i know you. but both of you have always seemed way cool.
quote:Personally I think this should be a sticky. Along with all the others here who have done a member wrong. If it were me I would ban him. I know for a fact he has seen this post and I know for a fact he has talked to people about this situation. AND I know for a fact he has not reached out to me.
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
...we can move this post to the racing section.
quote:+1000! they are pedestals! They use shims to ajust them, so you tourqe them Down and go! No matter if you tourqed them to 28lbs or 100lbs it would run the same, if the bolts didn't break. Maybe you should try learning some
Originally posted by turbo50:
They are pedestal mount rockers so overtightening them to the point of where the car wont run is kinda ridiculous.
quote:look at his join date Jan/2010
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Wow, if ICE is Fasthatch that would be the worst asshole in CAFORDS history. Since he's been lit up on the board here has anybody heard from him yet? Someone please handle your shit so we can move this post to the racing section.
quote:i dont think that would help much as u can use tools to mask your IP. if someone really gets kicks off fuckin around on the bulletin board they'll find ways around anything.
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
+1
Is there a way to do an IP ban?
quote:i think it's Cummings. they way he types out his replies and his smartass sarcasm is inline with what Cummings used to do. he was a "ninja warrior" too, hahaha. AND his locations says cummings sister. everyone knows he loves to stir up the pot and was good at it.
Originally posted by venomous99:
quote:i dont think that would help much as u can use tools to mask your IP. if someone really gets kicks off fuckin around on the bulletin board they'll find ways around anything.
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
+1
Is there a way to do an IP ban?
im sure vanilla ice is someone who has been on here and just tryign to stir the pot.
quote:I think so too
Originally posted by stangin':
quote:i think it's Cummings. they way he types out his replies and his smartass sarcasm is inline with what Cummings used to do. he was a "ninja warrior" too, hahaha. AND his locations says cummings sister. everyone knows he loves to stir up the pot and was good at it.
Originally posted by venomous99:
quote:i dont think that would help much as u can use tools to mask your IP. if someone really gets kicks off fuckin around on the bulletin board they'll find ways around anything.
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
+1
Is there a way to do an IP ban?
im sure vanilla ice is someone who has been on here and just tryign to stir the pot.
quote:you pull the dash you just dont take out of the car
Originally posted by AIRFORMANCE MOBILE AUTO A/C 707:
isnt this the guy that said he could do a fox heater core without pulling the dash and he could beat me if we had a race
quote:Settle down I just said I was Ninja staus took a poke at you and now youre hot and bothered. Relax it was all in fun no hard feelings.
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:You have 19 posts & a join date of Jan '10, but you liked me better years ago when I was using my white coupe for fun. Am I understanding that correctly?
Originally posted by ice:
quote:ice<---- smacks luke for selling the white coupe. I liked you better when you were actualy using a car for fun, now youre pimping the cars. Give us track numbers not what wheels you think are pretty. I know youre getting ready to sell but...
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:LOL
Originally posted by ice:
quote:But I warn you Im a very good keybord warroir, infact Im ninja status.
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
this is just my two cents, but anytime i do work or change somethin on a customers car by law i have to contact , document, and keep the part to show the customer what i was talkin about,so if he swapped your battery he should have to show you with a test that your battery was no good, i have had a couple people bring me battery's in there car and i had to charge and go thru the procedures to make sure there in deed bad . second he didnt keep your car inside when he said he would would of cost me any customer, cars are more important to them than some of there girlfreinds lol. and if i remember right this is the same car we where all arguin over what was wrong bout less than a month back? maybe you had mutiple problems, did he ever show you your blown heads gaskets?ive done a couple fresh top ends on bad bottom ends, and they would go out. i wont even warranty any motor unless i do the whole job motor from scratch, for reasons like maybe this. maybe not you, but how would i have any idea how the condition of this motor is before the coustmer brought it me.specialy if i never heard it run or not run, even if it was running was it running extremly bad? maybe that blown cly hid the rod knock due to no compression.and i have seen mutiple problems mis diagnosis as one.and just saying for the record its almost imposible to get a rod knock in your average 50, just saying you would almost have to delibrately fuck it up if the motor was even half in decent shape.i cant imagine him doing it on purpose,and he sounds intelligent i would of never seen this coming from him , and as for his writing skills that means nothing at all. i dont knows whos is worse his or mine lol. my fault is i was never into school, i was already working on cars before high school an never finished. my own bad for sure! but there aint much writing going on in a mechanic shop , very minimal at best lol. regardless he shouldnt of be dodgein you no matter what! unless he just scared as hell of you, but remember maybe multiple problems do happen quite often. i hope you guys work it out you guys are old sckool in my book of being on here. i dont know him anybetter than i know you. but both of you have always seemed way cool.
Mods, IP check on aisle 2 please.
quote:lol my thoughts exactly, what a dick this guy
Originally posted by venomous99:
. maybe that dent on the bumper was after he got pissed and decided to kick it in out of frustration.
quote:the dent happened when we were still cool. But the car is going to paint so I wasnt trippin too hard. I also wasnt tripping on my battery being switched. I also wasnt tripping on my car not being stored inside as promised. Which led to weather delays which I was told would never be an issue. I wasnt tripping about missed completion dates. So you see he cannot paint me as some unreasonable guy. Because I was nothing but understanding. But he obviously took my kindness for weakness.
Originally posted by SHOalex:
quote:lol my thoughts exactly, what a dick this guy
Originally posted by venomous99:
. maybe that dent on the bumper was after he got pissed and decided to kick it in out of frustration.
quote:lol, I'm relaxed as can be and there is certainly no hard feelings here. But you are making fake screen-names and stirring the pot on a controversial thread. Surely you can understand why some people would be interested in having your IP cross referenced to all existing members priors to your fake screen name's Jan 18th 2010 join date
Originally posted by ice:
quote:Settle down I just said I was Ninja staus took a poke at you and now youre hot and bothered. Relax it was all in fun no hard feelings.
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:You have 19 posts & a join date of Jan '10, but you liked me better years ago when I was using my white coupe for fun. Am I understanding that correctly?
Originally posted by ice:
quote:ice<---- smacks luke for selling the white coupe. I liked you better when you were actualy using a car for fun, now youre pimping the cars. Give us track numbers not what wheels you think are pretty. I know youre getting ready to sell but...
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:LOL
Originally posted by ice:
quote:But I warn you Im a very good keybord warroir, infact Im ninja status.
Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
this is just my two cents, but anytime i do work or change somethin on a customers car by law i have to contact , document, and keep the part to show the customer what i was talkin about,so if he swapped your battery he should have to show you with a test that your battery was no good, i have had a couple people bring me battery's in there car and i had to charge and go thru the procedures to make sure there in deed bad . second he didnt keep your car inside when he said he would would of cost me any customer, cars are more important to them than some of there girlfreinds lol. and if i remember right this is the same car we where all arguin over what was wrong bout less than a month back? maybe you had mutiple problems, did he ever show you your blown heads gaskets?ive done a couple fresh top ends on bad bottom ends, and they would go out. i wont even warranty any motor unless i do the whole job motor from scratch, for reasons like maybe this. maybe not you, but how would i have any idea how the condition of this motor is before the coustmer brought it me.specialy if i never heard it run or not run, even if it was running was it running extremly bad? maybe that blown cly hid the rod knock due to no compression.and i have seen mutiple problems mis diagnosis as one.and just saying for the record its almost imposible to get a rod knock in your average 50, just saying you would almost have to delibrately fuck it up if the motor was even half in decent shape.i cant imagine him doing it on purpose,and he sounds intelligent i would of never seen this coming from him , and as for his writing skills that means nothing at all. i dont knows whos is worse his or mine lol. my fault is i was never into school, i was already working on cars before high school an never finished. my own bad for sure! but there aint much writing going on in a mechanic shop , very minimal at best lol. regardless he shouldnt of be dodgein you no matter what! unless he just scared as hell of you, but remember maybe multiple problems do happen quite often. i hope you guys work it out you guys are old sckool in my book of being on here. i dont know him anybetter than i know you. but both of you have always seemed way cool.
Mods, IP check on aisle 2 please.
quote:You don't need to tell anyone here that you've lurked here for a long time. Several people above already pointed that out.
Originally posted by ice:
Ckeck my IP lol Ive never been a member here friends are and Ive lurked for a long time.
quote:Ok you missed the point and are waaaay off base. The receipt thing was something agreed to way in advance. And this is because if I ever sell the car I want proof stuff was done. So it was not nothing new. Also I never was cheap with him not one bit. He said it needed to be fixed I pnied up the cash or parts to have it done. He offered the cam fix as a upgrade that would make my car faster. Those that know me know I dont care about that. It was one of those "well while we are doing this may was well do that kind of repair". Also no physical confrontation occurred until after I was told my car was fixed and it was not. Then he proceeded to duck and lie to me. And finally good money was paid to him to fix my car, not make it worse. he problem between him and I only happened after I was told my car was done. So if you believe he is entitled to keep my money that I paid for the repairs all good to you. But I know you will never fix anything of mine nor will I purchase anything from you. Maybe you misunderstand the situation but whatever. If you take your repairs to him your a fool. Even Lee his business partner is mind boggled behind this one.
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Nate, from the PM's listed I do put you at "part fault" completely. You're being cheap with this work, demanding refunds, paperwork, being a prick in front of someones family etc. I don't blame anyone for "cutting ties" after seeing "how you get down."
Move on, pay good money for quality repairs and happily drive your Mustang. You did get some work for the money you paid, so you are not worse off (that may not make sense to you in your current state of mind.) The work may have exaserbated (sp?) a problem that wasn't so big, but now the car is in trusted hands.
You and your son can enjoy a strong running car, goodluck Nate! Stop acting like you're always the victim man.
For the record, I do not know Dave IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM! He was undercutting my heater core replacement prices but I've got the feedback I do so no worries at all!
**edit: Regarding the car being promised to be indoors etc, that's not cool unless you were told when the car was dropped off or prior. I've done two heater cores for people who've left their cars in my possession/garage for a weekend, not a chance would I have taken them out of the garage for more than a car wash (to be nice.)
quote:Oh, I wasnt aware people knew me so well lol. Whatever "they" say we will believe. Youre right, Im wrong, youre handsome, Im ugly, youre smart, Im dumb etc... you win bud.
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:You don't need to tell anyone here that you've lurked here for a long time. Several people above already pointed that out.
Originally posted by ice:
Ckeck my IP lol Ive never been a member here friends are and Ive lurked for a long time.
quote:lol....you combined a millions posts into one.
Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.
I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still get help from them to this day.
It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.
quote:I couldn't have put it better.
Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.
I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still
get help from them to this day.
It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being
strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good
situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After
building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each
with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get
what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.
quote:Mine is put better.
Originally posted by slowback67:
quote:I couldn't have put it better.
Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.
I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still
get help from them to this day.
It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being
strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good
situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After
building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each
with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get
what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.
quote:+ 2
Originally posted by slowback67:
quote:I couldn't have put it better.
Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.
I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still
get help from them to this day.
It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being
strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good
situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After
building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each
with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get
what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.
quote:I guess youre supposed to just get the vaseline out and take it according to these guys
Originally posted by N8:
quote:lol....you combined a millions posts into one.
Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.
I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still get help from them to this day.
It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.
1. I never said I was strapped for cash not a once. If he would have said it was necessary the cash was there. But it was nothing needed as he said so I bypassed it. I am not interested in going fast.
2. Running up on him was necessary to catch him, because of the bullshit he was pulling. When I caught him, he just lied about where he was at and was attempting to avoid me meanwhile my car was stranded at a gas station and he was not taking my calls. Oh yea prior to that he had murmured something obscene towards me and hung up. Hell yea I ran up on his ass.
3. Yes I make over 100k, yes I bench over 400, yes I box and have never been afraid to fight. So. And? Is that a reason for me to be done wrong? Everyone that has met me and those that havent will tell you I am cool as the other side of the bed. Not a one person can tell you that I am a ass or does anything shady to anyone. And most anything I post in regards to or reply to a thread. There was a 100k post and 6 pages of people posted their income yet I am immature. There was a thread about lifting weights and p90. $ pages of people posting their stats yet I am wrong. I get 5 requests for advice by pm about me shredding to cruiserweight and before and after shots. I post a pic and my experience now I am immature. Someone posts thread about "what do you do for a living" I post that I am a programmer and run my own studio along side of dozens of people that post their occupation yet I am immature.
4. Mustangs are a side hobby for me. I have no need for 20k of parts in it. I would much prefer spending that money on rack servers or my render farm. But because I didnt feel the need to pony up for a fix that was not detrimental to my problem at the time. I am living outside my means...wow, I love opinions but man...lol
So the moral of the story is everyone is welcomed to their opinion and I appreciate yours. And if you feel he is right and I am wrong so be it. If you want to trust him and you would recommend him to friends and family so be it. But best believe that I am human as anyone else. I got irate, lost my temper and almost put my freedom and his health in jeopardy. Am I wrong for that? Yes, because in a court of law I would have no recourse. I will accept that. But if you are saying I deserve the treatment I received. For that I fly the
... good thing you didnt do anything stupid, not saying he didnt deserve it....
quote:Just wanted to add, outside of your obvious disdain for me behind things that have nothing to do with this situation (weights, income...). I treated Dave with nothing but respect. I never questioned his motives or recommendations, so much so I listened to him when he went against Lees recommendation and then even still gave him the benefit of the the doubt when he doubled back and said the problem was the cam (oh but you guys said I deserve that...lol). Keep in mind we only had a problem when he dogged me out and then tried to hide from me. Not a one problem. If he had said Nate you need a new motor. Guess what I would ponying up for a new motor and he would have been putting it in. I took him as a man of his word is my only fault. My only FAULT. You mention AED, JohnB.... I bet things wee handled in a respectful and professional manner. Not lying, hiding and avoidance. So the problem here is you guys are comparing apples and oranges. But what I need to keep in mind is the guys commenting against me are the ones that have not met me personally. Ask around, I am not some internet tough guy that bullies and brags. I am cool as fuck, if I werent me I would wanna be my best friend. I am that cool.
Originally posted by gray03gt:
1. Bragging about how good your hands are, posting specs on your weightlifting to a board full of men, bragging about your near 100k success, etc, doesn't look very mature. You didn't handle this maturely and it shows through all your tough guy threats. Running up on a guy in front of his wife isn't how a business owner should hold himself.
I don't know Fasthatch but have worked with all of AED, JohnB, TopNotch, Newtech, Nextgen, etc. There have been small issues with all of these shops/people but there are no hard feelings or things that haven't been handled and I still get help from them to this day.
It sounds like your living beyond your own means. Being strapped for less than $500 to work on your car is not a good situation regardless if your buying a house or not. After building 3 mustangs pretty much from the ground up each with well over $20k in parts alone, I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and you gotta pay to play.
quote:I'VE READ EVERY SINGLE POST IN THIS THREAD THE ENTIRE TIME! I'm educated on this thread as it's been posted and also educated on your posts over the previous 6 months.
Originally posted by N8:
I know you will never fix anything of mine nor will I purchase anything from you.
Even Lee his business partner is mind boggled behind this one.
quote:Before you go there, NO I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT DO TO.
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Handle the rest over pm's or phone calls.
?, Now back to topic hidnos your coming off a little hard on someone that just got done completely wrong by a fellow member on here, and since you offer your services for heater cores you shouldn't like it either because it makes people question the whole sidework community on cafords.
quote:I'm guessing your not a mechanic for a shop? Because the amount of tourqe on a ped rocker doesn't determin any kind of ajustment! If it was ajustable stud mounts then ya, all the valves will be held open. But you seem like you need to do a Lil more reaserch bud!
Originally posted by 68bullitt390:
you crank your "pedestal" rockers down to 100lbs, it aint gonna run, your gonna ruin a motor and have bent pushrods, done it been there... try it sometime, its fun... I've been wrenching on 5.0's since '84, not just reading books and magazines.
quote:this....I am not sure how people cannot see beyond my views or muscles...lol. To see that I was wronged.
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Whether or not Nates a braggart, roided up, racist gorilla doesnt mean some asshole wannabe mechanic is allowed to allow a customer to be completely unhappy about the work or the service they were paid for. When you take on a job you take on a customer regardless of whether or not you are license or own your own business. Sounds like all Nate wants is some money back and then be done with it. He's got an attitude about it because the way the deal went down was shady as hell. And now because he called him out on the overall quality of his work, dude ducks and dodges him instead of contacting him to solve the situation where he can be happy? The end result is too one sided for anybody to ignore because in the end Dr. Shadetree still has his money and the customer remains unhappy.
quote:Very true, but the whole reason this board was setup was to help others connect with supposed experts or people with experience with a problem that you have on your ford. People do meet each other on the board with no other contact than posting on this message board and we expect them to be stand up people based on their experiences with other members of the board. So when someone fucks you up, guess what?
Originally posted by sac 5.0:
come on now/////when you go buy a new car do they say it will make noise till it breaks in.........get real you are a fool if you belive that.do they say you breaks will make noise till they break in.....how do you get a exhaust leak then go to getting your heads machined to getting a cam to a rod knock.......if its in good hands know good for you just chalk it up as a loss.keep lees name out of it if you dont blame him.why bring his name up if you dont blame him?
and no i dont know any of you guys but if you dont know what is wrong with a car why would you trust some no name on some web site you go on that you have never met...........
quote:a. I hold Lee non-accountable. But he is Lee's go to guy for work. And this is as startling to Lee as it is to me.
Originally posted by sac 5.0:
come on now/////when you go buy a new car do they say it will make noise till it breaks in.........get real you are a fool if you belive that.do they say you breaks will make noise till they break in.....how do you get a exhaust leak then go to getting your heads machined to getting a cam to a rod knock.......if its in good hands know good for you just chalk it up as a loss.keep lees name out of it if you dont blame him.why bring his name up if you dont blame him?
and no i dont know any of you guys but if you dont know what is wrong with a car why would you trust some no name on some web site you go on that you have never met...........
quote:LMAO...I remember that...
Originally posted by 89point.:
N8 u can come kick it around my fam I ain't scared of u, but don't ever again tell me I have an ugly pinky hahahha just cause my fingers are a lil stubby don't mean they are ugly lol..
quote:Not to dig this up again. But my wife and brother fell out of their seats laughing when I told them you said this. They both said the same thing at the same time. "What they think you the fucking boogey man"....it was funny as hell.
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
....not a chance I'd want you near my family...
quote:i uderstand nate but since you brought lees name in it i would never use any of his services at all.in my mind you are bringging him down and you are not blaming him at all.i am not scarred of you or anybody else.i will admit i have got my ass kicked but that is not whats its about.its about your car.i am just pointing out things i see as an outsider.
Originally posted by N8:
quote:a. I hold Lee non-accountable. But he is Lee's go to guy for work. And this is as startling to Lee as it is to me.
Originally posted by sac 5.0:
come on now/////when you go buy a new car do they say it will make noise till it breaks in.........get real you are a fool if you belive that.do they say you breaks will make noise till they break in.....how do you get a exhaust leak then go to getting your heads machined to getting a cam to a rod knock.......if its in good hands know good for you just chalk it up as a loss.keep lees name out of it if you dont blame him.why bring his name up if you dont blame him?
and no i dont know any of you guys but if you dont know what is wrong with a car why would you trust some no name on some web site you go on that you have never met...........
b. I trust Lee's word and still do. I know Lee and have done business with him. So no I did not take it to some no name guy. I bought to some who recommended him. And the recommendation came from a trusted source.
c. I admit I was wrong for trusting Dave and his assessment. And my car is not a new car so bad analogy. But to my defense, I was listening to my wife who always says I never give a situation a chance. To quick to react. She told me to chill and give him the benefit of the doubt...lol.
d. "how do you get a exhaust leak then go to getting your heads machined to getting a cam to a rod knock......." .. Thats the million dollar question.
e. "chalk it up", honestly I have. But will I stop screaming it from the mountain top? probably not.
Look ya'll Dave is in no imminent danger, I am not gonna touch him. I am not some monster that hides under your kids bed. I am not Rambro. I am customer that was done wrong. Funny the view some of you guys have of me. I find it interesting actually.
quote:Man what is with all this testosterone? I have one problem with one guy and every one thinks I am funkin with everyone. Man I dont even know you? Why would you bring up being scared of me? I am not a bully, I am cool as hell. A big damn teddy bear. You make my statements out as you must. but if it ends up with Dave working on your car. I would advise against it. If Lee does the work or tows your car. Your golden IMO. If Dave does it be advised. take that statement as you want. but I think it is warranted. Matter of fact if Dave gets a gig at AED, I would advise against it. No knock on Lee at all. I repeat no knock on Lee at all.
Originally posted by sac 5.0:
quote:i uderstand nate but since you brought lees name in it i would never use any of his services at all.in my mind you are bringging him down and you are not blaming him at all.i am not scarred of you or anybody else.i will admit i have got my ass kicked but that is not whats its about.its about your car.i am just pointing out things i see as an outsider.
Originally posted by N8:
quote:a. I hold Lee non-accountable. But he is Lee's go to guy for work. And this is as startling to Lee as it is to me.
Originally posted by sac 5.0:
come on now/////when you go buy a new car do they say it will make noise till it breaks in.........get real you are a fool if you belive that.do they say you breaks will make noise till they break in.....how do you get a exhaust leak then go to getting your heads machined to getting a cam to a rod knock.......if its in good hands know good for you just chalk it up as a loss.keep lees name out of it if you dont blame him.why bring his name up if you dont blame him?
and no i dont know any of you guys but if you dont know what is wrong with a car why would you trust some no name on some web site you go on that you have never met...........
b. I trust Lee's word and still do. I know Lee and have done business with him. So no I did not take it to some no name guy. I bought to some who recommended him. And the recommendation came from a trusted source.
c. I admit I was wrong for trusting Dave and his assessment. And my car is not a new car so bad analogy. But to my defense, I was listening to my wife who always says I never give a situation a chance. To quick to react. She told me to chill and give him the benefit of the doubt...lol.
d. "how do you get a exhaust leak then go to getting your heads machined to getting a cam to a rod knock......." .. Thats the million dollar question.
e. "chalk it up", honestly I have. But will I stop screaming it from the mountain top? probably not.
Look ya'll Dave is in no imminent danger, I am not gonna touch him. I am not some monster that hides under your kids bed. I am not Rambro. I am customer that was done wrong. Funny the view some of you guys have of me. I find it interesting actually.
do as you will with telling everydody about how he does not do any work...i dont care about that cause i would never bring him my car in the first place.........
quote:kk, now I follow you. Not sure why or how personal preference came into this. But right on man. End of the day I was cheated. And I am telling you first hand. Lee is a good guy, who has provided services that I needed in the past and has gone above and beyond. I will continue to recommend his services. He also helped in this situation. So take it as you must. If you wanna single Lee out over Dave well that is your prerogative. Dont forget to invite me to the BBQ.
Originally posted by sac 5.0:
i guess the computer you dont get the exact emosions(sp).i could careless about the statements about beeting people up,is all i was trying to say.like what don hiddenos was saying he dont want to hang out with you,i could bbq with you and all i just would not take my cars where you take your cars.i could care less about you pumping 400.this is a car website and i see they screwed you on your car.thats all i was saying.
nate you can kick it around my fam
quote:You sure man? I eat babies.
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
you guys are tripin nates hella cool and he gets screwed and now he is the bad guy
quote:so your like bruhtha lynch
Originally posted by N8:
quote:You sure man? I eat babies.
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:
you guys are tripin nates hella cool and he gets screwed and now he is the bad guy
quote:You are not the person you try to portray yourself as. It's clear post after post.... The real Nate is not who he claims he is.
Originally posted by N8:
quote:Not to dig this up again. But my wife and brother fell out of their seats laughing when I told them you said this. They both said the same thing at the same time. "What they think you the fucking boogey man"....it was funny as hell.
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
....not a chance I'd want you near my family...
quote:Just dont want no one to seem like I am the boogie man. And every post that was against me was due to some personal preference. People are welcome to have their opinion. I am a talkative mofo, so there is no harm no foul. You obviously talked to him about the situation. And its one of those you have to be there to understand fully. but if I sat you down and talked you through the sequence. You will be saying "why didnt you whoop on him". Just like everyone else has said that I have actually talked to personally about it.
Originally posted by BlowN67:
n8 No offense but seems like when people comment an if it isn't what u want to hear you take it as an attack at you or their mad an getting loud with you. I've read every post from the begging. I'm not taking sides i've delt with both of you before an probably always will. Dave(fasthatch) replaced my motor in my focus for me. went smoothly on my part. An in my eyes if it went down the way you both claim on running up on him throwing your sweater off an getting in his face in front of his wife. then yes i would feel that my wife would be threating at that time as well.
On another note: have you had experience with Turbo50? I have great guy would love to pick his brain over some beers. just asking cause seems like your doing what you did with fasthatch if you haven't done business with turbo50(going with everyones words about him) great guy does great work. just saying .02 only. no sides both people involved here cool dudes would hangout anytime.
quote:I am real curious to know how you portray me. I never put myself out there as a gangster. Never put myself out there as a bully. I have put myself out there as a cheap bastard tho. Anyway regardless if I was the boogeyman. I still got wronged by someone. That is what i do not understand about the detractors or folks who think I am wrong. they think I am wrong because of things I posted in various other posts. So now I am prime pickings to be got over on I guess. But like they say for every 6 that like you there is one that dont. I can live with those odds.
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:You are not the person you try to portray yourself as. It's clear post after post.... The real Nate is not who he claims he is.
Originally posted by N8:
quote:Not to dig this up again. But my wife and brother fell out of their seats laughing when I told them you said this. They both said the same thing at the same time. "What they think you the fucking boogey man"....it was funny as hell.
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
....not a chance I'd want you near my family...
On a side note, how much are you out of pocket for the work paid to Dave and how much to Lee?
quote:oh I must have mentioned that I threw off my sweater somewhere in this thread. My apologies. That seemed like a vivid detail i do not remember saying to anyone.
Originally posted by BlowN67:
i havent talked to no one about this my life soccer right now. Dont know if you noticed but i dont post. just me
quote:I will leave you be after this. But if you read the thread that you are quoting and the pm. It says Lee has attached the 100 owed to a tow job he will be doing for me. So that is why I did not give to Dave. So yes Lee is getting his cash, just waiting to see when he is available for the tow.
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
On page 5 you noted you didn't pay him $100 toward the bill, as that was what Lee charged for the tow? Being you're now saying you'll leave Lee out of this and exonerate him of this, have you paid Lee that $100 to clear it up?
I do think you're due "some" money toward "labor" you paid him. I never said "you're at fault" for all of this, I noted a percentage. No, I'm not going to put a number on it, just my feeling after reading all 7 pages in this thread.
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It seems as if Dave felt he should have included a cam in the initial estimate but didn't because you wanted to do this fast and cheap. (JUST MY OPINION FROM READING THE THREAD **AND** YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGES YOU SENT HIM.) Seems when all was said and done he realized a cam, or additional work, was in line. You seem to have intimidated him, so HE OFFERED TO absorb all labor charges if you supply the cam & install parts, just so he can get the cam installed and job done right. He was afraid to come out and say you NEED a cam, or additional work, as well and after offering services for free he realized you wouldn't be happy, so he bailed, possibly out of fear? The way you present yourself may have intimidated him, which I'm thinking you're blind to anyway. Handled differently, I think he'd have come out and kicked you some labor costs back, but after you got big on him and all this "handle with my fist bullshit," I think he's smart to cut all ties with you and move on. When everyone calms down, you being the igniter, I think he'd kick you some money back from labor charges, AMMICABLY (sp?)
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This has been my Dr. Phil moment. I've never met Dave or Nate in person and have never spoken to anyone about either party who has any personal dealings with them.
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When someone said this puts my heater core installs in question, oh well. I require the cars to be in my possesion for 4-5 hours, as I do not rush and often end up going through my hardware, re-installing misc nuts and bolts previous people have left out. I've turned down people asking me to match Dave's price (WHICH IS A WHOPPING $50 LESS THAN MINE) for obvious reasons.
I've also put up in my post all of the personal quotes from every member here I've done a heater core install for.
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
aaight so back up to my car stalling. Dave says he will get it towed with AAA. SO I am like cool. I post up in Brentwood to wait and see that it gets towed. So he tells me he is going to eat with his family. which I thought was shady but I say what ever cool. So I call back 2 hours later my car is still at chevron. So I park next to it because the Chevron folks say it is gonna get towed. Keep in mind he is paid in full at this point. So this is where things degrade. I call him a few times and leave a message. Finally I get him and I am like Hey Dave when you getting my car I am parked next to it, they talking about towing it. Also by the way can you give me back the money I just gave you because the is yet to be fixed. He says his wife took it to the bank already. I am like what ever. Well give me back at least 200.00 I say because I may need to rent a car. As this was to be my mode of transportation for the week. He says ok hold on let me call you back. So after several call backs I finally get him back and he has a attitude about the whole situation. And say "look your car is the least of my worries I am dealing with some family issues (he says his is is having a baby)". So I am still cool but getting agitated at this point. So I am like, ok shoot me the money, and tow my car and we'll talk in the morning. So he continues to feed me bull about how he cant give me money back and that he will tow my car when he can. Then he mumbles something right at the end an obscenity and hangs up. So I try several more times to get him. Finally I get through again and I am like"hey man dont hang up on me where are you at so we can discuss the next steps for my car". He says he is across town. So I say "I can just come over to you I dont mind, but I need to know when my car will be towed and when you will have it fixed". He hangs up on me again. So, I figure let me see if this fool is lying about where he is. I drive down the block and he indeed lied and he was at the house I picked the car up from. That is when I lost it. He was trying to hurry to his car when I rolled up on him. So that is when I ran up on him. And while there I heard what I wanted to hear from him. I apologized to his wide for this. And explained what had transpired. Mind you my wife did stop me from cleaning his clock. We then discussed the next steps for my car. He would have it fixed with no noises at all. He would look into my alternator issue as he explained. He would also call me when my car was towed to his house. And would call me in the morning to see what is the problem. After that incident he proceeded to avoid my calls. He did PM me in the morning to tell me my car made it to him. I reminded him he said he would call, and asked him very politely to honor his word to the letter and I will do the same (see my pm). he then PM'd back about the cam issue. but the grammar was bad so I asked a few times for clarification. I even called him and asked for clarification. Then I called and asked him if he was still interested in working on the car because I had yet to hear from him (left message). Then I said if he was not interested in working on please let me know and refund my money (left message). Because as we had both agreed it needed work and it was NOT fixed. Well I never got a answer to my question or request for clarification. Next PM said bring a battery and come get your car. My car will be on the street with the key under the battery with the hood popped. That was it. Next thing it is at Dans with even worse sounds than what I heard when I was stalled.
That is the long winded version. So as you see my mistreatment happened well before I had the one issue. And after that one issue we were back to being civil. All I asked is for precise communication. I never threatened him afterwards or nothing.
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Wow N8, i also applause and commend you on the way you handled the situation. Impressive how you were able to stick around at Chevron, wasted your time, called this guy over and over and got b.s answers about how he out of town then seeing him at his residence just few miles away and refraining from laying your hands on him quote:I agree, its very frustrating and annoying to get treated like that but whoever is at fault here should believe in karma.. What goes around, comes around. Both work hard for their money and both have families, so like i said karma's a bitch.
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Wow this thread is even pissing me off with all these people hangin off fastbatch's nuts trying to make you(N8) look like you in the wrong fuck all you guys that are doing that shit I mean realy , N8 got robbed dent in the bumper alone he would have been bad enough but the rude behavier with his whereabouts and hang ups after he was paid in full for a car that didn't even make the ride home after the so called fix and don't forget this isn't the first time or second time this fastbatch got over and you know he's guilty when the man who post all over this fucking website ( fastbatch ) has no comments about this, he's deffinately ducking this cuz he's in the wrong wow n8 I feel for ya for all these backyard mechanics who's priority is to get over then do the job right fuck off get a real job cuz you could fuck the wrong person over who's not as well mannerd as N8 you you wife can get fucked up these cars are an extention of us don't disrespect that!
quote:Yea I am willing to let karma deal with him at this point. So you see folks I am not the boogie man, I dont eat babies and I dont beat up peoples wives. But let a select few tell it I am way out of pocket and all the above. But when you know the full story it makes you wonder how I didnt snap him half from the gate.
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Yea your right^^^ it always does come back to bite you in the ass
quote:you are a idiot! That's all there is to it!
Originally posted by 1991CHP:
Really, 8 Pages of this shite??? Let me sum it up as short as I can......
N8, your a bitch, no offense bud, but yeah are. Settle down girls, I'm gonna tell yeah why, and you all will agree, but will "type" shit instead.
Where was I... Oh yeah, N8's a bitch. You went to this guy even though this site just had a post on this. You could've posted " Hey, I'm putting on my new sun dress and was going to get some work done by Dave Fasthatch, anyone have good, bad work done by him? Oh, and does he have a big dick??? " And, a lot of people would have said NO, THIS GUY's A HACK!!! But your a bitch, and like to bitch and make everyone feel sorry for you and post it on CaFords. Read your post bud. You woulda "stomped him" but you wife got outta the car. Are you takin' a piss? What a bitch response. Maybe your wife, or life partner or whatever guys call it, shoulda "Stomped Him." Look, here's what happend, and I've done it to a few bitches myselfe, as a lot of guys on this site have as well. You went over to his house, had a couple beers, acted like you where drunk, got on your knees, licked his balls as you gazed into his eyes, pulled your skirt up, he gave you a lil Brokeback Mountain action, and said he would call. But, afetr you being home a few days, and your ass has been draining, and your crying he isn't calling, you post it on CaFords, and everones sorry for you.
Be hoenest, that is what happend. I doen't either one of you, but have heard hella sketch shit about Dave, so doen't think I'm taking this guy's sida at all. But come on N8, for real bud, read your post.
No, eveyone talk shit about me and blah, blah, blah. But you all know it's true. Well, maybe not all of it, maybe they cuddled a lil after, that's what always get's you girls all fucked up and in love. HAHA
quote:I hate typos
Originally posted by BlowN67:
N8, not to be rude but why do u keep going back to old posts even new ones too an editing them.
(I edited this one too to add the smiley)quote:true dat, nevermind about being a man of your word and capable...lol. Who had a conflict at a gas station?
Originally posted by BlowN67:
morral of this charge the battery when your working on someones car an you wont have a conflicts at a gas station.
quote:In the words of the great Hidnos
Originally posted by 1991CHP:
Really, 8 Pages of this shite??? Let me sum it up as short as I can......
N8, your a bitch, no offense bud, but yeah are. Settle down girls, I'm gonna tell yeah why, and you all will agree, but will "type" shit instead.
Where was I... Oh yeah, N8's a bitch. You went to this guy even though this site just had a post on this. You could've posted " Hey, I'm putting on my new sun dress and was going to get some work done by Dave Fasthatch, anyone have good, bad work done by him? Oh, and does he have a big dick??? " And, a lot of people would have said NO, THIS GUY's A HACK!!! But your a bitch, and like to bitch and make everyone feel sorry for you and post it on CaFords. Read your post bud. You woulda "stomped him" but you wife got outta the car. Are you takin' a piss? What a bitch response. Maybe your wife, or life partner or whatever guys call it, shoulda "Stomped Him." Look, here's what happend, and I've done it to a few bitches myselfe, as a lot of guys on this site have as well. You went over to his house, had a couple beers, acted like you where drunk, got on your knees, licked his balls as you gazed into his eyes, pulled your skirt up, he gave you a lil Brokeback Mountain action, and said he would call. But, afetr you being home a few days, and your ass has been draining, and your crying he isn't calling, you post it on CaFords, and everones sorry for you.
Be hoenest, that is what happend. I doen't either one of you, but have heard hella sketch shit about Dave, so doen't think I'm taking this guy's sida at all. But come on N8, for real bud, read your post.
No, eveyone talk shit about me and blah, blah, blah. But you all know it's true. Well, maybe not all of it, maybe they cuddled a lil after, that's what always get's you girls all fucked up and in love. HAHA
quote:right on man.
Originally posted by onesicklx:
dont listen to these clowns N8, you did nothing wrong...i dont even know you, but you can come to my house and drink with my family anytime...ive read some of your post in the past, you have alot of opinons that people dont always agree with...(dont change how you are for these haters)..your good im my book..good luck
quote:Saints!!! Even thoe I think are corners are a little weak!! I hope they can hold up for 1 more game.
Originally posted by slidewayz94:
whose your pick for the Superbowl?
quote:I can certainly understand that
Originally posted by N8:
Luke my man, I agree I may have handled it wrong. But I am human and prone to human mistakes. Everyone handles things differently. But from the sounds of things people understand the root of the problem so I am good. And it also sounds like I should not have to buy any food come summertime because I should be at hella BBQ's.
Oh yea and you know I got the Saints.....Make em say UUGGGGNNNNHHHHH NA NA NA NA.....who dat!
quote:Same here lets go Aints! I mean Saints!
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:I can certainly understand that
Originally posted by N8:
Luke my man, I agree I may have handled it wrong. But I am human and prone to human mistakes. Everyone handles things differently. But from the sounds of things people understand the root of the problem so I am good. And it also sounds like I should not have to buy any food come summertime because I should be at hella BBQ's.
Oh yea and you know I got the Saints.....Make em say UUGGGGNNNNHHHHH NA NA NA NA.....who dat!
And ya, I am rootin for the Saint myself!
quote:Spider I may have to go out of my way to meet you man. I swear in all my years in Cali I have met like 3 Saints fans.....lol
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
Like I said!! If the saints score 30+ points they will win!! I just hope are corners can hold up! Saints, Saints, saints!!!! You see the signature!!! My teams win baby!!
quote:There's something wrong with all of them haha lets see
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
You see the signature!!! My teams win baby!!
quote:Ha,Ha whats your teams?
Originally posted by N93EXCHP:
quote:There's something wrong with all of them haha lets see
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
You see the signature!!! My teams win baby!!
Spurs: SUCK
Saints: I'll think of something to say
Dodgers: Full of juicers!!!!
quote:I don't know check out my new signature
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
quote:Ha,Ha whats your teams?
Originally posted by N93EXCHP:
quote:There's something wrong with all of them haha lets see
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
You see the signature!!! My teams win baby!!
Spurs: SUCK
Saints: I'll think of something to say
Dodgers: Full of juicers!!!!
quote:so true bro...
Originally posted by N8:
Everyone handles things differently.
quote:Well I know I'm out numbered but your teams havent won in centuries!!
Originally posted by N93EXCHP:
quote:I don't know check out my new signature
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
quote:Ha,Ha whats your teams?
Originally posted by N93EXCHP:
quote:There's something wrong with all of them haha lets see
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
You see the signature!!! My teams win baby!!
Spurs: SUCK
Saints: I'll think of something to say
Dodgers: Full of juicers!!!!
quote:You didnt have to say anything after this
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
quote:Well I know I'm out numbered
Originally posted by N93EXCHP:
quote:I don't know check out my new signature
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
quote:Ha,Ha whats your teams?
Originally posted by N93EXCHP:
quote:There's something wrong with all of them haha lets see
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
You see the signature!!! My teams win baby!!
Spurs: SUCK
Saints: I'll think of something to say
Dodgers: Full of juicers!!!!
quote:Yeah but oh well I like to talk shit about other peoples teams especially when they're raider fans
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
Ha, Ha, You know I'm right!!!
quote:There's a good rub and tug right on 5th ave. Good place to go for a hot asian massage. Everything except full service.
Originally posted by mikeP:
Kasi from redwood 5th ave?
quote:This is exactly the type of stuff that keeps me checking in on CAFords. The rare cummins post makes all the idiots worthwhile.
Originally posted by cummins:
I just revisited cafords now and its the same old shit nothing new so I won't say anything new, just going to say a few things I said before.
-this is just another example of a black man being held down by the white man.
-L8's ole lady held him back because she was afraid he was gonna get thumped by dude and she was thinking how the hell can the family be supported if L8's in the hospital.
-this is also another example of L8 being cheap and not spending more money to get it done right the first time.
-if someone doesn't do their homework on the person they're bring their car to then they can also blame themselves if it comes out fucked up.
-a rap video can be made from the events of these circumstances
-shop around for the cheapest price on labor and odds are you also bought the worst workmanship.
-benching 400 lbs doesn't make up for lack of the most important muscle, the brain....
-hidnnos doesn't want to hang out with you because this will just be another example of a black man being held down by the whiteness.
-spending money twice cost more than spending it once and more the first time.
-ice ice baby.
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Nate, I can identify with being wronged, and I can understand you being emotional on the topic and wanting to let others know your negative experience.
With that said, there is a right and a wrong way to put someone on blast, and unfortunately it appears that you could have handled this more effectively.
First and foremost, your story could not have been more confusing to a third party. I read the entire thread and am still confused as to what the sequence of events was. It would have been very helpful to post a clear, unambiguous sequence of events in list format and allow people to make up their own minds.
Next, intimidation is not going to win you support from anyone. Talking about how you should have done this or that but your wife was the voice of reason and she stopped you from handling things physically only has a negative effect. This is not the first thread I've seen you post this sort of thing. I think any average person who is confronted with intimidation or ran up on (not saying you did this), they will either a.) fight b.) cut off all ties. If I felt someone who I was involved in a business venture attempted to physically intimidate me, the bucks stops right there, and the relationship is over. But if someone approaches me, explains the situation calmly, then I will do everything in my power to make things right. Of course, there are no guarantees that the 2nd party will makes things right, even if you do everything right. That is what small claims court is for (could be another GREAT experience for your son to see the judicial system at work first-hand as I know you are eager to educate him).
I also notice that you are throwing out other member's names in here and posting their opinions. If another member wanted their opinion posted here, they would do it themselves. You are a business owner. I'd expect you to be more savvy and sensitive than that.
I have never met either party involved in this dispute and am certainly not taking sides, but based on your conduct on this thread Nate, I'd be apprehensive to accept your business if I were running a small side job operation myself. Why take on the risk? When I first read this thread before the weekend, I was 100% behind you Nate, but somehow you *yourself* leveled the playing field within this thread. Sometimes saying less is actually saying more if you know what I am saying...
Also, in my experience, the guys who are always quick to point out how good of people they are, make me raise an eyebrow. Others can recognize you as good people. Self proclaiming how good you are tends to have the opposite effect.
You do seem like a smart guy who is helpful and willing to put others ahead of you, so I hope you can also treat this as a valuable learning experience (shoot, I recall at least a couple times when you were willing to go out of your way to help me out - having bald drag radials when the first rain started comes to mind). I definitely appreciate that Nate and I you are always welcome at my BBQ.
Given this experience, it would probably be wise to rebuild the motor... It is not expensive, it is not difficult, and it would be invaluable to the learning experience of your son.
As I mentioned before, I hope you guys are able to resolve your differences and come to an understanding.
Best of luck!
quote:lol....I am sorry Riddler but you are waay off in your summary. Way off. But its cool. Let me clarify
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
I’ve been on this site since the 9cobra8 days. Every couple of years a new member will start posting like crazy. Attempt to hook people up, talk about general BS etc. I always love it when these members turn fowl and cry wolf looking for a free hand out. Nothing is for free in life and you get what you pay for. These are the basic laws of life. No free handouts.
From what I've read it sounds like N8 had a pile of mustang to start with...This should come as NO surprise as almost 99% of them are at this point. Secondly he went the "hook up" type of shop. This is your second red flag. You want a receipt go to an actual respectable shop. There are plenty I can think of off the top of my head. Next Gen, Newtech, AED etc. I've been in the mustang game for a long time and seen it go nothing but down hill. You handled the situation poorly and you were expecting a diamond out of a pile of crap. If you cant afford $500 to do a job right get a new hobby or sell your car or learn to do it yourself.
quote:nm, I had you mixed up with 89Trunk. I pm'd him about his short block.
Originally posted by 89point.:
no pm yet n8, maybe my box is messed up or full again
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quote:did you have a yellow 5.0 before?
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
btw to me a 4k mustang is a pile.. wish you the best
quote:clear pm mike or call me
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
quote:If you find out can you let me know? I am curious as well.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
quote:then yes by your accounts it is a pile I stand corrected...lol
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
btw to me a 4k mustang is a pile.. wish you the best
quote:I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
quote:i mean not intentional....i dont see anyway someone can cause that problem without trying or it already be an existing problem....i dont see dave blowing n8s motor up on purpose....thats just me. i hope it gets resolved fasthatch is a cool dude and n8 dont seem like bad people
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
quote:I am 100% sure that Dave did not blow my motor on purpose, you are correct he does not seem like that type. But it did happen on his watch. More likely negligence or being in over his head. But like I said it did happen on his watch.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:i mean not intentional....i dont see anyway someone can cause that problem without trying or it already be an existing problem....i dont see dave blowing n8s motor up on purpose....thats just me. i hope it gets resolved fasthatch is a cool dude and n8 dont seem like bad people
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
quote:good now we established the rod knock isnt daves fault, because if i tow a car into a tire shop(with engine issues) and they fix the tire and pull it out and further an issue or the issue starts it isnt there fault right?
Originally posted by N8:
quote:I am 100% sure that Dave did not blow my motor on purpose. But it did happen on his watch.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:i mean not intentional....i dont see anyway someone can cause that problem without trying or it already be an existing problem....i dont see dave blowing n8s motor up on purpose....thats just me. i hope it gets resolved fasthatch is a cool dude and n8 dont seem like bad people
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
quote:Well yes an no. Like I said waaaay earlier Lee told me to have a open mind about this and that some things can lead to another. Which it did. And I understood. Now, although not purposely when speaking of the rod-knock. It did happen and the responsibility lies with him. So in no way am I exonerating him of that. But I am also saying I doubt he went in with bad intentions.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:good now we established the rod knock isnt daves fault, because if i tow a car into a tire shop(with engine issues) and they fix the tire and pull it out and further an issue or the issue starts it isnt there fault right?
Originally posted by N8:
quote:I am 100% sure that Dave did not blow my motor on purpose. But it did happen on his watch.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:i mean not intentional....i dont see anyway someone can cause that problem without trying or it already be an existing problem....i dont see dave blowing n8s motor up on purpose....thats just me. i hope it gets resolved fasthatch is a cool dude and n8 dont seem like bad people
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
so i dont know i wasnt there but good luck fellas no need to funk.
quote:no it doesent work like that. i wouldnt fix the rod knock if i was doing work and that happened. unless my work led to it or i caused it which it doesent seem like it did. im off it tho and i speak real i wouldnt even address the rod knock if i was him. good luck getting the real issue resolved homie
Originally posted by N8:
quote:Well yes an no. Like I said waaaay earlier Lee told me to have a open mind about this and that some things can lead to another. Which it did. And I understood. Now, although not purposely when speaking of the rod-knock. It did happen and the responsibility lies with him. So in no way am I exonerating him of that. But I am also saying I doubt he went in with bad intentions.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:good now we established the rod knock isnt daves fault, because if i tow a car into a tire shop(with engine issues) and they fix the tire and pull it out and further an issue or the issue starts it isnt there fault right?
Originally posted by N8:
quote:I am 100% sure that Dave did not blow my motor on purpose. But it did happen on his watch.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:i mean not intentional....i dont see anyway someone can cause that problem without trying or it already be an existing problem....i dont see dave blowing n8s motor up on purpose....thats just me. i hope it gets resolved fasthatch is a cool dude and n8 dont seem like bad people
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
so i dont know i wasnt there but good luck fellas no need to funk.
quote:lol...ok. So you take your car somewhere for a fix it comes out with that fix not fixed and a few other new problems. I am guessing you skate home happy as a lark...yea right. The thought of that is laughable. Like I said earlier at no point was his work scope constricted by me at all. All he had to say was "Nate, while working on this I discovered this. You will need this to fix that". Simple. The degrade of our transaction never happened at the purse strings or customer to mechanic relationship level. It happened at the mechanic to customer relationship level. And asskickin hit it on the head with what sent me spinning.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:no it doesent work like that. i wouldnt fix the rod knock if i was doing work and that happened. unless my work led to it or i caused it which it doesent seem like it did. im off it tho and i speak real i wouldnt even address the rod knock if i was him. good luck getting the real issue resolved homie
Originally posted by N8:
quote:Well yes an no. Like I said waaaay earlier Lee told me to have a open mind about this and that some things can lead to another. Which it did. And I understood. Now, although not purposely when speaking of the rod-knock. It did happen and the responsibility lies with him. So in no way am I exonerating him of that. But I am also saying I doubt he went in with bad intentions.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:good now we established the rod knock isnt daves fault, because if i tow a car into a tire shop(with engine issues) and they fix the tire and pull it out and further an issue or the issue starts it isnt there fault right?
Originally posted by N8:
quote:I am 100% sure that Dave did not blow my motor on purpose. But it did happen on his watch.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:i mean not intentional....i dont see anyway someone can cause that problem without trying or it already be an existing problem....i dont see dave blowing n8s motor up on purpose....thats just me. i hope it gets resolved fasthatch is a cool dude and n8 dont seem like bad people
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
so i dont know i wasnt there but good luck fellas no need to funk.
quote:Yeah, its funny how people can't see what the whole thing is about. I have sympathy for Dave being a mechanic myself and having been in this situation before, the outcome is guided by how you handle it. If you call the person and say that there's a problem, invite them over and explain what happened then usually things can be worked out. If you have another problem come up, try and say the car is done, hand the keys back and ignore the problem it becomes much bigger, exactly what we have here. If you try and wash your hands of the whole situation it only makes things worse. If N8 just flew off the handle right from the get go then I'd call a foul on him, but dealing with the situation patiently, finding out he was being lied to and given the run around before loosing it you can't blame him. You have to be honest and upfront with people your doing work for or shit blows up in your face. After the initial lies all trust is gone so no way for Dave to explain that it wasn't his fault.
Originally posted by N8:
Like I said earlier at no point was his work scope constricted by me at all. All he had to say was "Nate, while working on this I discovered this. You will need this to fix that". Simple. The degrade of our transaction never happened at the purse strings or customer to mechanic relationship level. It happened at the mechanic to customer relationship level. And asskickin hit it on the head with what sent me spinning.
But I wanted to be fair in my assessment of Dave even tho it is all bad at this point. I do not think he went in with malicious intent.
quote:Well it will never officially close unless he actually speaks directly to me or rights this. He is willing to talk candidly with everyone but me. I really cannot see where I didnt allow ample communication time or opportunity. But if Dave wants to chat it out or make this right he can call me or pm me. I do not think my resolution to the problem was a bad one. I didn't ask for all my money back. I thought it was fair for him to keep a portion, and give a portion back.
Originally posted by asskickn88:
From the conversation I just had with Dave it looks like there's a huge misunderstanding here. Up until today I've never talked to him, I've only talked to N8. Being a mechanic I can see how something could have happened that was out of his control, I think if both parties would have talked this out things the situation would have come out much better. Hopefully you guys can work this out and close the door on this.
quote:And don't forget the dent on the bumper I guess he deserves and the the new bunk battery I guess you get what you pay for ,WHAT THE FUCK ! Are you guys talking about you get what you pay for, so if you pay less you deserve to also have your money taken for no wrk done and a dent and a dead batt that wasn't even his WOW you guys who are on Fastbatch side are fucking retarted! No bullshit if that would of happened to me I would have to act real dumb and kick some ass and get my money back and what ever I thought I deserved that was @ his house! If you want to get over then there's also a chance of people reacting I a negative way right back, not saying if that's right it's just princables sometimes it happens like that , and when you least expect it
Originally posted by 89point.:
this is sooo fucking stupid, it shouldnt matter if he paid a shit load of money or a little bit of money for the work.. this is supposed to be a close comunity(sp) so when somoeone gives you there word that they can do the work then thats exactly what you should get. money shouldnt be the problem here its about someones word. guess that and a hand shake from people dont mean shit anymore. if one of you guys got fuckd over by a shop that you paid hella money at how would it be any different then paying someone less that a repitable(sp) member sent you to. either way he got fuckd and people just want to talk about lifting weights and his
income. what a joke.
quote:lol
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
TTT