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im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
i mean not intentional....i dont see anyway someone can cause that problem without trying or it already be an existing problem....i dont see dave blowing n8s motor up on purpose....thats just me. i hope it gets resolved fasthatch is a cool dude and n8 dont seem like bad people
I am 100% sure that Dave did not blow my motor on purpose. But it did happen on his watch.
good now we established the rod knock isnt daves fault, because if i tow a car into a tire shop(with engine issues) and they fix the tire and pull it out and further an issue or the issue starts it isnt there fault right?
so i dont know i wasnt there but good luck fellas no need to funk.
Well yes an no. Like I said waaaay earlier Lee told me to have a open mind about this and that some things can lead to another. Which it did. And I understood. Now, although not purposely when speaking of the rod-knock. It did happen and the responsibility lies with him. So in no way am I exonerating him of that. But I am also saying I doubt he went in with bad intentions.
no it doesent work like that. i wouldnt fix the rod knock if i was doing work and that happened. unless my work led to it or i caused it which it doesent seem like it did. im off it tho and i speak real i wouldnt even address the rod knock if i was him. good luck getting the real issue resolved homie
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im just curious what someone can do to a car to cause a rod knock in a matter or days????????????????????????
I can cause a rod knock in under a min. Who knows what exactly happened, until the old motor is apart and inspected you never know. If the cam was damaged and spreading shavings throughout the block it could cause a rod bearing to spin and produce a knock. There are too many people judging the situation from behind a monitor, until you've actually wrenched on a few cars your opinion doesn't mean shit..... no, changing your oil doesn't count. My honest opinion from what I've read here is the car had an issue before Dave touched it and the rod knock (if that's what it is) manifested itself. This is all just speculation until the motor is inspected. This is one of those unfortunate situations where mechanics end up from time to time. You can get into your car and have the engine spin a bearing on your way to work, the same thing can happen to a mechanic working on your car so pointing the finger and saying he did anything to actually cause the problem is stupid unless you saw him bouncing the car off the red line across an intersection. How it was all handled after the fact is what has N8 upset.
i mean not intentional....i dont see anyway someone can cause that problem without trying or it already be an existing problem....i dont see dave blowing n8s motor up on purpose....thats just me. i hope it gets resolved fasthatch is a cool dude and n8 dont seem like bad people
I am 100% sure that Dave did not blow my motor on purpose. But it did happen on his watch.
good now we established the rod knock isnt daves fault, because if i tow a car into a tire shop(with engine issues) and they fix the tire and pull it out and further an issue or the issue starts it isnt there fault right?
so i dont know i wasnt there but good luck fellas no need to funk.
Well yes an no. Like I said waaaay earlier Lee told me to have a open mind about this and that some things can lead to another. Which it did. And I understood. Now, although not purposely when speaking of the rod-knock. It did happen and the responsibility lies with him. So in no way am I exonerating him of that. But I am also saying I doubt he went in with bad intentions.
no it doesent work like that. i wouldnt fix the rod knock if i was doing work and that happened. unless my work led to it or i caused it which it doesent seem like it did. im off it tho and i speak real i wouldnt even address the rod knock if i was him. good luck getting the real issue resolved homie
lol...ok. So you take your car somewhere for a fix it comes out with that fix not fixed and a few other new problems. I am guessing you skate home happy as a lark...yea right. The thought of that is laughable. Like I said earlier at no point was his work scope constricted by me at all. All he had to say was "Nate, while working on this I discovered this. You will need this to fix that". Simple. The degrade of our transaction never happened at the purse strings or customer to mechanic relationship level. It happened at the mechanic to customer relationship level. And asskickin hit it on the head with what sent me spinning.
But I wanted to be fair in my assessment of Dave even tho it is all bad at this point. I do not think he went in with malicious intent.
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Like I said earlier at no point was his work scope constricted by me at all. All he had to say was "Nate, while working on this I discovered this. You will need this to fix that". Simple. The degrade of our transaction never happened at the purse strings or customer to mechanic relationship level. It happened at the mechanic to customer relationship level. And asskickin hit it on the head with what sent me spinning.
But I wanted to be fair in my assessment of Dave even tho it is all bad at this point. I do not think he went in with malicious intent.
Yeah, its funny how people can't see what the whole thing is about. I have sympathy for Dave being a mechanic myself and having been in this situation before, the outcome is guided by how you handle it. If you call the person and say that there's a problem, invite them over and explain what happened then usually things can be worked out. If you have another problem come up, try and say the car is done, hand the keys back and ignore the problem it becomes much bigger, exactly what we have here. If you try and wash your hands of the whole situation it only makes things worse. If N8 just flew off the handle right from the get go then I'd call a foul on him, but dealing with the situation patiently, finding out he was being lied to and given the run around before loosing it you can't blame him. You have to be honest and upfront with people your doing work for or shit blows up in your face. After the initial lies all trust is gone so no way for Dave to explain that it wasn't his fault.
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just throwing my 2 cents in, a headgasket swap can cause a bearing issue, if when the block surface was cleaned care wasn't taken to keep debries from getting into the crankcase/oil pan, it could easily get sucked up by the oil pump and mess up bearings.
I recall reading a TSB about what kind of abrasives could be used to clean the head surface recently, I forget if chevy or ford released it, but basically it said a wire wheel can't be used, and only a certain type of abrasive could be used to avoid main bearing failure after the repairs were done.
I always fill the cylinders and intake valley with rags when I prep the block surface, then go over everything with wd-40 and a rag, gotta be really careful.
I'm not saying that's what happened here, but it is totally possible the car went in without rod knock and came out with it.
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From the conversation I just had with Dave it looks like there's a huge misunderstanding here. Up until today I've never talked to him, I've only talked to N8. Being a mechanic I can see how something could have happened that was out of his control, I think if both parties would have talked this out things the situation would have come out much better. Hopefully you guys can work this out and close the door on this.
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So whats the outcome of this whole ordeal? Is Dave going to make it somewhat right?
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N8 your pm box is full. Next weekend works for me.
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Well it does seem as if n8 tried to talk to him about the problems, but all his attempted pm's and calls were dodged so therefore the communication was killed... And in any relationship communication is the key. And that's a business, relationship a relationship with your wife whatever. Without communication all is lost.
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From the conversation I just had with Dave it looks like there's a huge misunderstanding here. Up until today I've never talked to him, I've only talked to N8. Being a mechanic I can see how something could have happened that was out of his control, I think if both parties would have talked this out things the situation would have come out much better. Hopefully you guys can work this out and close the door on this.
Well it will never officially close unless he actually speaks directly to me or rights this. He is willing to talk candidly with everyone but me. I really cannot see where I didnt allow ample communication time or opportunity. But if Dave wants to chat it out or make this right he can call me or pm me. I do not think my resolution to the problem was a bad one. I didn't ask for all my money back. I thought it was fair for him to keep a portion, and give a portion back.
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this is sooo fucking stupid, it shouldnt matter if he paid a shit load of money or a little bit of money for the work.. this is supposed to be a close comunity(sp) so when somoeone gives you there word that they can do the work then thats exactly what you should get. money shouldnt be the problem here its about someones word. guess that and a hand shake from people dont mean shit anymore. if one of you guys got fuckd over by a shop that you paid hella money at how would it be any different then paying someone less that a repitable(sp) member sent you to. either way he got fuckd and people just want to talk about lifting weights and his
income. what a joke.
And don't forget the dent on the bumper I guess he deserves and the the new bunk battery I guess you get what you pay for ,WHAT THE FUCK ! Are you guys talking about you get what you pay for, so if you pay less you deserve to also have your money taken for no wrk done and a dent and a dead batt that wasn't even his WOW you guys who are on Fastbatch side are fucking retarted! No bullshit if that would of happened to me I would have to act real dumb and kick some ass and get my money back and what ever I thought I deserved that was @ his house! If you want to get over then there's also a chance of people reacting I a negative way right back, not saying if that's right it's just princables sometimes it happens like that , and when you least expect it
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Why let such a quality post die?
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come on page 12.... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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out of popcorn so it's cookies and milk.
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IN before the old thread lock!!
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+1 lol someone is board
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