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im the realist that just called you out

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AL STOCK:
[qb] ok now thats educated but a riot common get real

Im anti-riot all the way. Violence will need to nothing.

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fr.50, a riot is not cool at all, but that's what people do when they reach a boiling point. They explode. Dellums has done something right, he has OPD investigating the incident as a homicide. The fact is, we are talking about someone's life. He had family, a daughter, friends, a mother, people are hurt and want answers. We all should understand that. I don't have any idea how I would feel if that were my brother, cousin, uncle, etc. I was be beyond consolement. But it is obvious to me that some people in our dear forum lack empathy. If it were a regular police butt spanken caught on camera, ok.But it was a shooting...someone died, it is unquestionable...

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Originally posted by 351mclaren:
Life without police would be pretty interesting. However, I do not feel that safe with them. I use my right to bear arms, so I can protect my own family. And you are also right about police being regular people, and that is why they should not be conducting themselves as personal judges and abusing their authority, and losing the public's trust. if they did a better job and had better relationships with people within the community, trust would increase and their would be less crime.

they are personal judges, what did you think they where. i bear arms also, but how many bullits do you have?? probably not enough to protect your fam whith no cops for a month!!!!

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AL STOCK:
[qb] ok now thats educated but a riot common get real

Im anti-riot all the way. Violence will need to nothing.
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Originally posted by 351mclaren:
Interesting remarks to say the least. I never complained about police following me (although it is pretty irritating), so maybe your remarks are addressing someone else. I spoke about being pulled over without cause,which is called racial profiling, and being embarrassed in front of my wife. If my vehicle would not have had registration, or I had some other visible violation, pull me over, that is your job. But not just because you feel like it and you have the power to do it

so wait, this same thing has happened to me numerous times by white cops, do that mean they dont like white people or is it just racial profileing when its done to a black person. see my point
I cant remember how many times ive been pulled over and harassed while driving my mustang. Ive been pulled out, searched all while I was in my business suit.

I'm white...its not racial profiling. Its profiling of the car we drive and whats its associated to (sideshows/streetracing)

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fr.50, a riot is not cool at all, but that's what people do when they reach a boiling point. They explode. Dellums has done something right, he has OPD investigating the incident as a homicide. The fact is, we are talking about someone's life. He had family, a daughter, friends, a mother, people are hurt and want answers. We all should understand that. I don't have any idea how I would feel if that were my brother, cousin, uncle, etc. I was be beyond consolement. But it is obvious to me that some people in our dear forum lack empathy. If it were a regular police butt spanken caught on camera, ok.But it was a shooting...someone died, it is unquestionable...

another good post but seperation of color doesnt help the situation or solve it. intellagence rules

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No doubt, fr.50, but my point is that they should not abuse the public trust with their judgement. In other words, the color of my skin should not make me suspect. It's alot of hype around COLORED crime, because that is what the media plays. However, being a sociologist student taught me alot. Those police know better, but because there is no strong watchdog, they cut the fool daily. In other words, Black and Latino men are not the only ones committing violent crimes, stealing cars, selling weed, etc. In all honesty, its a male thing. But because one part of the population is targeted more, the numbers show up lopsided. Anyway, this is a good discussion guys, keep it going...and fr.50, I do not have enough bullets, my point was that if someone comes to my door with madness, I can protect my family. We have a total of 5 officers in my immediate family, two regular cops and two correctional officers and I do get both sides.

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people are always going to hate the guy that enforces the law people will never love him or give him respect

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
people are always going to hate the guy that enforces the law people will never love him or give him respect

Wrong - People are going to DISLIKE the person who ABUSES his power as a LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) and use it for his own advantages.

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Mike,

Now all things being fair, I would have to say your situation would be an isolated incident to small numbers when we look a the whole pie. Not to reduce your experiences, but I do not think that MOST white guys are having that experience.

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lol.

Who is this joker?

im the realist that just called you out
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Fr.5.0, if you go back to my example in my post, no one was enforcing anything when I got pulled over. I was being bothered...Respect is a two way street. A badge and a gun does not allow you to be disrespectful to others.

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Originally posted by 351mclaren:
No doubt, fr.50, but my point is that they should not abuse the public trust with their judgement. In other words, the color of my skin should not make me suspect. It's alot of hype around COLORED crime, because that is what the media plays. However, being a sociologist student taught me alot. Those police know better, but because there is no strong watchdog, they cut the fool daily. In other words, Black and Latino men are not the only ones committing violent crimes, stealing cars, selling weed, etc. In all honesty, its a male thing. But because one part of the population is targeted more, the numbers show up lopsided. Anyway, this is a good discussion guys, keep it going...and fr.50, I do not have enough bullets, my point was that if someone comes to my door with madness, I can protect my family. We have a total of 5 officers in my immediate family, two regular cops and two correctional officers and I do get both sides.

society is a big influence on mails in general not color. seems to me that racism has a big mouth and the only thing that comes out of it is a cop out. color does not make people act diffrent towards the opposite, color clouds judgment and makes people think the opposite is against them. its just like that tho, black comidians can talk so much trash about white people. so its ok in the black community but if your blind you dont see its good for the goose but not for the gander. but if ever a white man hits a black man its back to square one, but if you do it the other way around its no problem. where was jesse jackson when i got jummped by 5 black guys, he wouldnt stand up for me why cuz im not black im white or maybe cuz im not from jena

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Fr.5.0, if you go back to my example in my post, no one was enforcing anything when I got pulled over. I was being bothered...Respect is a two way street. A badge and a gun does not allow you to be disrespectful to others.

respect is earned you are refuring to courtesy. like i said i have been in the same situation to the t. does that make it better, no but now you know it happens to white people to!

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The comment i made a few pages back was misunderstood. Like i said i'm white and have a lot of non-criminal black, white and latino friends. So you guys talking about there is not a race card are ignorant(fr50). I been pulled over a bunch of time with a car full of black and white people doing nothing wrong. Its a shame what a differance it was how the cops acted towards the car from black to white. So for you guys to say thier is no race card are the ones that are retarded and have no expierience to even be talking about the subject. Like i said if the guy was white the cops would not of been that aggresive in the first place so he would still be alive

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they just need to put a 4ft thick wall completely around Oakland an call it a day. let them have it all to themselfs. with an option gate but i wouldnt.

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The comment i made a few pages back was misunderstood. Like i said i'm white and have a lot of non-criminal black, white and latino friends. So you guys talking about there is not a race card are ignorant(fr50). I been pulled over a bunch of time with a car full of black and white people doing nothing wrong. Its a shame what a differance it was how the cops acted towards the car from black to white. So for you guys to say thier is no race card are the ones that are retarded and have no expierience to even be talking about the subject. Like i said if the guy was white the cops would not of been that aggresive in the first place so he would still be alive

ill call bullshit on that one to, only because you cant go back and change skin color. i think i made my self clear when i said, cops are regular people which means they can have a bad day to. just like you and me, and i aint gunna lie i look for fights when im in a bad mood. that doesnt justify anything i guess cuz every one is different, but it does go to show how i differ from you!!!

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The comment i made a few pages back was misunderstood. Like i said i'm white and have a lot of non-criminal black, white and latino friends. So you guys talking about there is not a race card are ignorant(fr50). I been pulled over a bunch of time with a car full of black and white people doing nothing wrong. Its a shame what a differance it was how the cops acted towards the car from black to white. So for you guys to say thier is no race card are the ones that are retarded and have no expierience to even be talking about the subject. Like i said if the guy was white the cops would not of been that aggresive in the first place so he would still be alive

ill call bullshit on that one to, only because you cant go back and change skin color. i think i made my self clear when i said, cops are regular people which means they can have a bad day to. just like you and me, and i aint gunna lie i look for fights when im in a bad mood. that doesnt justify anything i guess cuz every one is different, but it does go to show how i differ from you!!!
Well i said just said a personal fact when it comes to my expierience, you have yet to say a fact. And i agree with you about cops are regular people, But a lot of regular people are either racest, or are not used to being around a lot of monority people, So take them and give them the power cops have, and this is what you get.

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I like how it's now a post bashing Oakland PD when they didn't have anything to do with the shooting...

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I like how it's now a post bashing Oakland PD when they didn't have anything to do with the shooting...

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