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Originally posted by jaejae:
imagine if this wasnt caught on video..i bet the cops would have had a very good excuse for what they did..just like when i got fucked up in vpd(im sorry sir but that holding cell didnt have a camera) no proof to follow up with the complaint=crooked cops gettin away anything

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Exactly, then this thread wouldve been on a different level with the political gangstas coming out of the closets with their coffee in hand and a box of tampons infront of their monitors.

LiftedF150, you said he didnt do this on purpose? I kind of find that hard to believe, if you watch the latest video posted.

You clearly see that he pulled his weapon out, he cocked it back and pulled the trigger.

The victim was complying...

Now, if the suspect was resisting or doing something to provoke the situation, the other 4 cops wouldve had their weapons drawed.

I just seen the latest video posted again, look at the cops reaction.. Then he goes and starts pushing the dying victim around like a toy.

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I guess you didnt read the part when i said he more then likly mistakened his gun for his taser since they are right next to each other on the belt.... do you exepct him to just throw his gun out in the open then for somebody to use it??? I mean come on use some common sence man...

ya it totly looked like he was complying when you can clearly see him mouthing off and resisting to be handcuffed.... its amazing what people just want to see and dont see the whole picture. Im not saying he deserved to be shot by any means btw i think it completly sucks for his young family, im only defending the stupid comments that have been posted on this thread.

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
god why do we even bring these topics up on here its like talking to a wall no matter what points or facts are EVER brought up. I would love to see the people who are calling "Racism" bring up some fact as to how this has ANYTHING TO DO WITH RACE! god damit im so sick of all this racism fucking bullshit we live in the god dam bay area the most diverse fucking city in the country. If we were down in the georgia or texas were there is real racism going on then i could see some sort of argument. Show me the guy was part of the KKK and then maybe ill believe that this shooting had something to do with his race. The fact is that the cop made a very very very bad mistake, if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon. I dont believe he shot the kid ON PURPOSE WITH 4 COPS PRESSENT AND A TRAIN FULL OF PASSANGERS!!! come on people use what little brains some of you have on here and think. I DO NOT CONDONE what happened ONCE AGAIN I DO NOT CONDONE IT!!! and i think that he should be punished for his actions but for fucks sakes can we cut the fucking racism BS
thats my rant now lets see how many walls this hits.

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The real racists are the one screaming that this the cop is a racist. The cop is an idiot not a racist.

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no n8 its lol @ liftedf150
these guys crack me up. its as if police can do nothing wrong....yeah technically he had NO WEAPON, technically when he was shot he WASNT IN A POSITION TO HARM ANYONE BUT THE BART FLOOR.
lol some of you guys crack me up seriously.
I am all for police using as mush force when needed. this whole situation is the fault of the bart cop/clown. so TECHNICALLY a man is dead over a TECHNICALLY

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Once again i guess you cant read, i NEVER ONCE SAID THAT THE COP WAS RIGHT! jesus christ i hate talking to walls. Do i think the guy deserved to be shot... NO way in hell he didnt, once again the point im bringing up is it was a mistake im sure by the cop and he pulled the wrong weapon... Everybody just likes to pull the race card and im tired of it. I never said that cops can do nothing wrong I EVEN SAID HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR WHAT HE DID open your eyes and read a little before posting please.

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:

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lol @ technically

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no n8 its lol @ liftedf150
these guys crack me up. its as if police can do nothing wrong....yeah technically he had NO WEAPON, technically when he was shot he WASNT IN A POSITION TO HARM ANYONE BUT THE BART FLOOR.
lol some of you guys crack me up seriously.
I am all for police using as mush force when needed. this whole situation is the fault of the bart cop/clown. so TECHNICALLY a man is dead over a TECHNICALLY

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Once again i guess you cant read, i NEVER ONCE SAID THAT THE COP WAS RIGHT! jesus christ i hate talking to walls. Do i think the guy deserved to be shot... NO way in hell he didnt, once again the point im bringing up is it was a mistake im sure by the cop and he pulled the wrong weapon... Everybody just likes to pull the race card and im tired of it. I never said that cops can do nothing wrong I EVEN SAID HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR WHAT HE DID open your eyes and read a little before posting please.

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I must have missed the race card. But I agree with lifted. I doubt race played a role. But I dont think it was the kind of mistake most are saying either. I think it is more a adrenaline/rookie mistake. Than a I grabbed the wrong weapon mistake. I dont think even tasering was the call to make (My PD homie agrees too). So even if he was tasered I think we would still be talking about this and the PD would be looking at a lawsuit. But a death occured, which is tragic. I sincerely hope that cop is penalized like a true felon and subjected to the same punishment I would have been had I been the trigger man.

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:

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Originally posted by jaejae:
imagine if this wasnt caught on video..i bet the cops would have had a very good excuse for what they did..just like when i got fucked up in vpd(im sorry sir but that holding cell didnt have a camera) no proof to follow up with the complaint=crooked cops gettin away anything

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Exactly, then this thread wouldve been on a different level with the political gangstas coming out of the closets with their coffee in hand and a box of tampons infront of their monitors.

LiftedF150, you said he didnt do this on purpose? I kind of find that hard to believe, if you watch the latest video posted.

You clearly see that he pulled his weapon out, he cocked it back and pulled the trigger.

The victim was complying...

Now, if the suspect was resisting or doing something to provoke the situation, the other 4 cops wouldve had their weapons drawed.

I just seen the latest video posted again, look at the cops reaction.. Then he goes and starts pushing the dying victim around like a toy.

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I guess you didnt read the part when i said he more then likly mistakened his gun for his taser since they are right next to each other on the belt.... do you exepct him to just throw his gun out in the open then for somebody to use it??? I mean come on use some common sence man...

ya it totly looked like he was complying when you can clearly see him mouthing off and resisting to be handcuffed.... its amazing what people just want to see and dont see the whole picture. Im not saying he deserved to be shot by any means btw i think it completly sucks for his young family, im only defending the stupid comments that have been posted on this thread.

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Using common sense, lets pretend to be the officer.

I never used a taser gun before but im guessing it doesn't need to be cocked back (recoil), you just pull the trigger right?

Lets say the officer did intend to use the taser gun, he pulls it out (clearly no other officers pulled out their tasers, no signs of Grant un-operative) and pulls the trigger.. Got him. End of story.....

Now..

Now pretend to be the officer making a mistake with the guns, he pulls out the gun, and pulls the trigger.. Oh snap *thinks the officer* its a regular gun!

He didnt do that...This is what he did..

1, He decided to pull out the gun
2. He DECIDED to COCK the gun back
3. He DECIDED to pull the trigger


He decided... Common sense right?

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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Originally posted by STEED:

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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you sir have no brain.
You tell me how many reports have there been where an officer has mistakenly grabbed his "taser" instead of his "gun"?

I'm not going to say race had anything to do with it. But this was no accident, and it's very clear in the video.
Pretending to think you saw otherwise is what is making this post become more "stupid".
It's very clear what happened.
Realize it
Understand it
And for fuck's sake, quit trying to twist it around and blame the victim.

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im not going to sit here and look up stats on how many people have been shot on accident... His gun and his taser are right next to each other and he was in the middle of detaining a suspect... Yes its very clear in the video that he reached for his side arm ( same side and next to his tazer ) and pulled his gun and shot the poor kid. DO your REALLY think he is that dumb to do it ON PURPOSE in from over 100 people!!!! Nobody has YET to give any fact on his PURPOSLY PULLING HIS GUN!!!!! Ive givin you the fact that his fucking taser is right next to his firearm and thus is how he could of pulled the wrong weapon. Please get some facts. You sir are the one who needs a brain i think.

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
im not going to sit here and look up stats on how many people have been shot on accident... His gun and his taser are right next to each other and he was in the middle of detaining a suspect... Yes its very clear in the video that he reached for his side arm ( same side and next to his tazer ) and pulled his gun and shot the poor kid. DO your REALLY think he is that dumb to do it ON PURPOSE in from over 100 people!!!! Nobody has YET to give any fact on his PURPOSLY PULLING HIS GUN!!!!! Ive givin you the fact that his fucking taser is right next to his firearm and thus is how he could of pulled the wrong weapon. Please get some facts. You sir are the one who needs a brain i think. [/QB]

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Also you would think since both the officer with the gun and fellow officers jumped when the round when off.. that's a good sign.. if your pulling your gun out to shoot someone your not going to jump after it goes off and I highly doubt his partner would be on the suspect trying to control him.

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Originally posted by STEED:

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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you sir have no brain.
You tell me how many reports have there been where an officer has mistakenly grabbed his "taser" instead of his "gun"?

I'm not going to say race had anything to do with it. But this was no accident, and it's very clear in the video.
Pretending to think you saw otherwise is what is making this post become more "stupid".
It's very clear what happened.
Realize it
Understand it
And for fuck's sake, quit trying to twist it around and blame the victim.

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Originally posted by Jdub07:
You know its bad when you read something and even if it isn't directed at you it makes you sick. Even makes you angry at the person for subjecting you to their stupidity. You want to say something, you even start to type a response in an effort to open their eyes a little but soon realize all you'd be doing is added fuel to the fire of the retard nation. So you stop typing and delete all the benifitial information that if actually read and understood by a normal person of any stature could be helpful in making them a better person. Oh well, so is life I guess. Out of the 6 billion people on the planet we can't all think the same way...it wouldn't be very interesting would it. So in reality maybe we should be thanking these people for being shit for brains, for they are the ones that remind sensible people the differences between what is and what isn't. And if you have to ask what that is then your already in need of help.

Carry on retards of the world, may all your cock jockin comments be filled with close mindedness and assumptions based on nothing.

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Originally posted by aslowdodge:
someone made mention that he was actually not cuffed when he was shot, but cuffed afterwards. If this is true it changes things a bit

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Originally posted by 532Fastback:

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Originally posted by STEED:

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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you sir have no brain.
You tell me how many reports have there been where an officer has mistakenly grabbed his "taser" instead of his "gun"?

I'm not going to say race had anything to do with it. But this was no accident, and it's very clear in the video.
Pretending to think you saw otherwise is what is making this post become more "stupid".
It's very clear what happened.
Realize it
Understand it
And for fuck's sake, quit trying to twist it around and blame the victim.

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Something i learned from a police officer when dealing with people in the woods. I'll try to explain this as best i can without the video he showed us.
When your coming up to someone you don't know your stressed out because you don't know whats going to happen, your stress goes up when the person is hostile to you, if the person then threatens your life your stress level goes higher. There is a stress level where your brain functions actually stop working.
The video he showed us was an officer pulling over a man in a pick up. Right when the pick up came to a stop the driver jumped out yelling. It esculated to the point where the driver told the officer i am going to kill you. The officer drawed his weapon and pointed it at the suspect, the suspect then proceeded to pull an AR15 out of the back seat of his pick up while the officer was point a gun at him. The suspect was even able to unzip the gun bag the gun was in infront of the officer. All the officer said the ENTIRE video was "Sir, please stop" When the suspect starts shooting you hear the officer screaming please stop please stop. The officer never shot a round off and was shot and killed by the suspect. The officer was so stressed out by the situation he couldn't function on his training.
So it is possible this cop grabbed the wrong gun not knowing which gun it was because he was close to that panic mode but like i said earlier no one will ever REALLY know what was happening but the officer himself.

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Originally posted by 532Fastback:

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Originally posted by STEED:

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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you sir have no brain.
You tell me how many reports have there been where an officer has mistakenly grabbed his "taser" instead of his "gun"?

I'm not going to say race had anything to do with it. But this was no accident, and it's very clear in the video.
Pretending to think you saw otherwise is what is making this post become more "stupid".
It's very clear what happened.
Realize it
Understand it
And for fuck's sake, quit trying to twist it around and blame the victim.

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Something i learned from a police officer when dealing with people in the woods. I'll try to explain this as best i can without the video he showed us.
When your coming up to someone you don't know your stressed out because you don't know whats going to happen, your stress goes up when the person is hostile to you, if the person then threatens your life your stress level goes higher. There is a stress level where your brain functions actually stop working.
The video he showed us was an officer pulling over a man in a pick up. Right when the pick up came to a stop the driver jumped out yelling. It esculated to the point where the driver told the officer i am going to kill you. The officer drawed his weapon and pointed it at the suspect, the suspect then proceeded to pull an AR15 out of the back seat of his pick up while the officer was point a gun at him. The suspect was even able to unzip the gun bag the gun was in infront of the officer. All the officer said the ENTIRE video was "Sir, please stop" When the suspect starts shooting you hear the officer screaming please stop please stop. The officer never shot a round off and was shot and killed by the suspect. The officer was so stressed out by the situation he couldn't function on his training.
So it is possible this cop grabbed the wrong gun not knowing which gun it was because he was close to that panic mode but like i said earlier no one will ever REALLY know what was happening but the officer himself.

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I believe you are talking about Deputy Dinkheller. This is a link to the video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=637_1173997492

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:

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Originally posted by 532Fastback:

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Originally posted by STEED:

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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you sir have no brain.
You tell me how many reports have there been where an officer has mistakenly grabbed his "taser" instead of his "gun"?

I'm not going to say race had anything to do with it. But this was no accident, and it's very clear in the video.
Pretending to think you saw otherwise is what is making this post become more "stupid".
It's very clear what happened.
Realize it
Understand it
And for fuck's sake, quit trying to twist it around and blame the victim.

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Something i learned from a police officer when dealing with people in the woods. I'll try to explain this as best i can without the video he showed us.
When your coming up to someone you don't know your stressed out because you don't know whats going to happen, your stress goes up when the person is hostile to you, if the person then threatens your life your stress level goes higher. There is a stress level where your brain functions actually stop working.
The video he showed us was an officer pulling over a man in a pick up. Right when the pick up came to a stop the driver jumped out yelling. It esculated to the point where the driver told the officer i am going to kill you. The officer drawed his weapon and pointed it at the suspect, the suspect then proceeded to pull an AR15 out of the back seat of his pick up while the officer was point a gun at him. The suspect was even able to unzip the gun bag the gun was in infront of the officer. All the officer said the ENTIRE video was "Sir, please stop" When the suspect starts shooting you hear the officer screaming please stop please stop. The officer never shot a round off and was shot and killed by the suspect. The officer was so stressed out by the situation he couldn't function on his training.
So it is possible this cop grabbed the wrong gun not knowing which gun it was because he was close to that panic mode but like i said earlier no one will ever REALLY know what was happening but the officer himself.

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I believe you are talking about Deputy Dinkheller. This is a link to the video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=637_1173997492

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yep that's the video. Crazy. makes me sick to my stomach watching that video.

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sorry im not allowed to quote this guy, his but hurts!

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Originally posted by 532Fastback:

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:

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Originally posted by 532Fastback:

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Originally posted by STEED:

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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you sir have no brain.
You tell me how many reports have there been where an officer has mistakenly grabbed his "taser" instead of his "gun"?

I'm not going to say race had anything to do with it. But this was no accident, and it's very clear in the video.
Pretending to think you saw otherwise is what is making this post become more "stupid".
It's very clear what happened.
Realize it
Understand it
And for fuck's sake, quit trying to twist it around and blame the victim.

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Something i learned from a police officer when dealing with people in the woods. I'll try to explain this as best i can without the video he showed us.
When your coming up to someone you don't know your stressed out because you don't know whats going to happen, your stress goes up when the person is hostile to you, if the person then threatens your life your stress level goes higher. There is a stress level where your brain functions actually stop working.
The video he showed us was an officer pulling over a man in a pick up. Right when the pick up came to a stop the driver jumped out yelling. It esculated to the point where the driver told the officer i am going to kill you. The officer drawed his weapon and pointed it at the suspect, the suspect then proceeded to pull an AR15 out of the back seat of his pick up while the officer was point a gun at him. The suspect was even able to unzip the gun bag the gun was in infront of the officer. All the officer said the ENTIRE video was "Sir, please stop" When the suspect starts shooting you hear the officer screaming please stop please stop. The officer never shot a round off and was shot and killed by the suspect. The officer was so stressed out by the situation he couldn't function on his training.
So it is possible this cop grabbed the wrong gun not knowing which gun it was because he was close to that panic mode but like i said earlier no one will ever REALLY know what was happening but the officer himself.

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I believe you are talking about Deputy Dinkheller. This is a link to the video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=637_1173997492

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yep that's the video. Crazy. makes me sick to my stomach watching that video.

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Ya, does the same to me. One of my instructors had us watch it in class and I will never forget it.

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Originally posted by 94gt:
when a bullet entered his back and ricocheted to his lung area, killing him almost instantly.

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wtf i saw the vid and after he was shot they turned him on his side and he was awake and talking how was it instantly?

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Nice edit job. I'd appreciate it a lot if you'd fix it for me. I didn't say that at all, it was a quote from the article contained in the link.

I don't want to be accused of anything other than trying to straighten out mis-interpreted information, ignorance, inability to read and those who jump to conclusions based upon little to no credible information.

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by fr5.0:

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Originally posted by 94gt:
when a bullet entered his back and ricocheted to his lung area, killing him almost instantly.

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wtf i saw the vid and after he was shot they turned him on his side and he was awake and talking how was it instantly?

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Nice edit job. I'd appreciate it a lot if you'd fix it for me. I didn't say that at all, it was a quote from the article contained in the link.

I don't want to be accused of anything other than trying to straighten out mis-interpreted information, ignorance, inability to read and those who jump to conclusions based upon little to no credible information.

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fix what, you posted it! quote or not, we all saw the vid including you!!! you still posted it with no "ya right" following it or anything.

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:

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Originally posted by 532Fastback:

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Originally posted by STEED:

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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you sir have no brain.
You tell me how many reports have there been where an officer has mistakenly grabbed his "taser" instead of his "gun"?

I'm not going to say race had anything to do with it. But this was no accident, and it's very clear in the video.
Pretending to think you saw otherwise is what is making this post become more "stupid".
It's very clear what happened.
Realize it
Understand it
And for fuck's sake, quit trying to twist it around and blame the victim.

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Something i learned from a police officer when dealing with people in the woods. I'll try to explain this as best i can without the video he showed us.
When your coming up to someone you don't know your stressed out because you don't know whats going to happen, your stress goes up when the person is hostile to you, if the person then threatens your life your stress level goes higher. There is a stress level where your brain functions actually stop working.
The video he showed us was an officer pulling over a man in a pick up. Right when the pick up came to a stop the driver jumped out yelling. It esculated to the point where the driver told the officer i am going to kill you. The officer drawed his weapon and pointed it at the suspect, the suspect then proceeded to pull an AR15 out of the back seat of his pick up while the officer was point a gun at him. The suspect was even able to unzip the gun bag the gun was in infront of the officer. All the officer said the ENTIRE video was "Sir, please stop" When the suspect starts shooting you hear the officer screaming please stop please stop. The officer never shot a round off and was shot and killed by the suspect. The officer was so stressed out by the situation he couldn't function on his training.
So it is possible this cop grabbed the wrong gun not knowing which gun it was because he was close to that panic mode but like i said earlier no one will ever REALLY know what was happening but the officer himself.

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I believe you are talking about Deputy Dinkheller. This is a link to the video

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=637_1173997492

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Originally posted by 532Fastback:

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Originally posted by STEED:

quote:

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Originally posted by liftedF150:
if you look at their tool belts the taser is located right next to their firearms and in the heat of battle he grabbed the wrong weapon.

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you sir have no brain.
You tell me how many reports have there been where an officer has mistakenly grabbed his "taser" instead of his "gun"?

I'm not going to say race had anything to do with it. But this was no accident, and it's very clear in the video.
Pretending to think you saw otherwise is what is making this post become more "stupid".
It's very clear what happened.
Realize it
Understand it
And for fuck's sake, quit trying to twist it around and blame the victim.

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Something i learned from a police officer when dealing with people in the woods. I'll try to explain this as best i can without the video he showed us.
When your coming up to someone you don't know your stressed out because you don't know whats going to happen, your stress goes up when the person is hostile to you, if the person then threatens your life your stress level goes higher. There is a stress level where your brain functions actually stop working.
The video he showed us was an officer pulling over a man in a pick up. Right when the pick up came to a stop the driver jumped out yelling. It esculated to the point where the driver told the officer i am going to kill you. The officer drawed his weapon and pointed it at the suspect, the suspect then proceeded to pull an AR15 out of the back seat of his pick up while the officer was point a gun at him. The suspect was even able to unzip the gun bag the gun was in infront of the officer. All the officer said the ENTIRE video was "Sir, please stop" When the suspect starts shooting you hear the officer screaming please stop please stop. The officer never shot a round off and was shot and killed by the suspect. The officer was so stressed out by the situation he couldn't function on his training.
So it is possible this cop grabbed the wrong gun not knowing which gun it was because he was close to that panic mode but like i said earlier no one will ever REALLY know what was happening but the officer himself.

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