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quote: Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4: its a simple fucking matter people...
if apex fucked you, you have every right to fuck them with bad mouthing them period.
if your friends cousins uncle got fucked by apex and you have no exp with them and you bad mouth them and say they do shitty work when you in fact never had work done..are a complete idiot. and are SLANDERING A COMPANY which is illegal.
with that being said if you never had work done there you have no clue what your talking about and if they fucked you and wasted your money fuck them bad mouth them and never return
Word of mouth. You can tell about other peoples experiences. Nopthing that says you cant. My ex girlfriends new boyfriends dad had a bad experience with apex; i have evry right to share there experience with the public. WORD OF MOUTH
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lol...that is a funny picture... Is that a member from here...lol
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Wildfire532FB
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quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9:
I think your taking it too personal now. Just from posting this picture i get the feeling you want to physically fight over this matter. I don't think that is nessesary in this situation, since this is just a matter of opinion and disagreement.
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That is a member of the board? I thought it was a random photo. Yea that would be fighting material for me. Not a cool move, but a funny one.
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quote: Originally posted by n8y8: lol...that is a funny picture... Is that a member from here...lol
I have no clue who it is and if its a member here That picture have been posted on here many of times. [ April 04, 2006, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: 9Venom9 ]
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quote: Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep: quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9:
I think your taking it too personal now. Just from posting this picture i get the feeling you want to physically fight over this matter. I don't think that is nessesary in this situation, since this is just a matter of opinion and disagreement.
Nice try there buddy...
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quote: Originally posted by n8y8: That is a member of the board? I thought it was a random photo. Yea that would be fighting material for me. Not a cool move, but a funny one.
It is a random pic, I had to go back and find it cause I thought it fit this post to a T, I have no clue who's in the picture, I laugh at it every time I see it.
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Uhhh, WOW.
I not going to bash APEX, I have zero reason to. What I will say is this...Mr. Mak, NOT APEX, has had every opportunity to make things right prior to his ban from the board. Ample opportunities were offered. The result? Nothing was done, the warnings he recieved from the Mod's went by the wayside, and he continued with his ways. Now, someone tells you to fix your shit, you fix your shit...right? Of course you do. You don't fix it, what happens...? You get what's coming to you. Honestly, I don't think he has a problem with anyone on the board. Sure, you have your one or two bashers, but they are everywhere...even off a public message board. I think this goes deeper than smacktalk. It has everything to do with losing business. I know, I know..."we've got plenty of cars and work to keep us busy". Seriously though, with word-of-mouth, how long do you think it will last? He loses a client base such as the potentials of CA Fords? Ya,ya...only 1/6th of the folks actually post up. How many lurk though? How many read posts and come to a conclusion without posting a SINGLE comment? A TON. Remember, first impressions are lasting impressions...and if a person can detect the slightest hint of negativity in a business, they will avoid that business, without ever stepping foot in the door. Obviously, the workers there aren't a problem, they still post here. So what does this all lead to? It's the simple fact that he is upset about his removal from CA Fords.
Plain and simple. [ April 04, 2006, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: JohnB ]
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quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9:
looks like u in high school
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9COBRA8
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Please ignore Mach0ne351. He is sponsored by and a long time best friend of a top apex employee, but will not tell you guys that. He pretends to be a random loyal apex customer flooding his best friend's shop with positive reviews. This act alone is of questionable ethics, but he is not a bad guy, he is just protecting his best friend at all cost, even if its at the cost of a little Bill Clinton style honesty.
To those people that say we shouldn't have gone public with this. A) You're probably best friends with an apex employee but won't tell us, B) You're probably sponsored by Apex but won't tell us, or C) Both A & B are true, but you won't tell us.
You guys can either come out of the dark and be honest with your affiliation to the shop and its employees or you can stop trying to mess this thread up with your propoganda. I know you guys won't shed a tear if law suits shut down cafords or cost the moderators major dollars.
I know we had some lawyers and law students as members here and there was no better way, other than a mass email to all the members to find out who these members were.
The reason of this post was not to debate weather this information should have been released or not. Apex sponsored people, please don't clutter up this thread with your propganda if you don't have any legal advice to offer us. Make another post on the topic if you wish to discuss weather this thread should have been posted or not. [ April 04, 2006, 03:39 PM: Message edited by: 9COBRA8 ]
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Wildfire532FB
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quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9: quote: Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep: quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9:
I think your taking it too personal now. Just from posting this picture i get the feeling you want to physically fight over this matter. I don't think that is nessesary in this situation, since this is just a matter of opinion and disagreement.
Nice try there buddy...
what was i trying to do? I was just stating how i felt the picture represented. [ April 04, 2006, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]
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quote: Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep: quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9: quote: Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep: quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9:
I think your taking it too personal now. Just from posting this picture i get the feeling you want to physically fight over this matter. I don't think that is nessesary in this situation, since this is just a matter of opinion and disagreement.
Nice try there buddy...
what was i trying to do? I was just stating how i felt the picture represented.
And you said this to the last 50 people who have posted this pic on here in the last year? Or just trying to create something else to argue over?
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Guess that explains the "Apex Credit Card".....lol. MachOne all you had to do was come out with your affiliation, no you really come across as a kiss-ass. But I cant complain, if I were sponsored (read: get free shit), from a company I would ride it until the wheels fell off too. Even if Mike Mak was going around slappin peoples momma's. So I dont blame you.
9cobra8 I really dont see how this dude has a case, but he could just be a prick and file a frivilous lawsuit just to be an ass, which of course alone the legal hassle of going to court and the costs could make this whole thing not worth it. I dont think he will win anything, but he could file a shit lawsuit.
Apex I own a company myself, so coming from that standpoint I understand your position. My advice would be to just cut your losses, sever ties with CaFords (maybe prohibit your employees from posting?), make what ever right you can and just weather the storm and move on. Going after the person who registered this domain or whatever is just plain foolish and border-line childish. It will also cost you more in a long run from the loss of business. People will just scatter and spread the gospel elsewhere. Next thing you know you are trying to sue stangnet, corral, west coast...... Not even ya'll money is that long. Stop trying to "D'bo" people out of their opinion. This is the only way they can get back at you obviously, since you dont care to right which has been wrong because "You have more business than you can handle". What you have my friend is a very bad business-model. The problem lies on your side. Not CaFords.
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quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9:
looks like u in high school
I wish I dressed that good in HS, plus I drove a Escort not a fox body...
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Wouldn't it be funny if this was one big April Fool's joke.... although it's a couple days late
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quote: Originally posted by n8y8: lol...that is a funny picture... Is that a member from here...lol
goto google. type-in (in the images search) "e-thug", and youll get that pic i love it. i post it everywhere....
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quote: Originally posted by 9COBRA8: Please ignore Mach0ne351. He is sponsored by and a long time best friend of a top apex employee, but will not tell you guys that. He pretends to be a random loyal apex customer flooding his best friend's shop with positive reviews. This act alone is of questionable ethics, but he is not a bad guy, he is just protecting his best friend at all cost, even if its at the cost of a little Bill Clinton style honesty.
what?!?! what did you say? im sorry...im NOT sponsored by APEX motorsports. i am sporsored by THE MECHANIC, HANS RACECRAFT, HOUSTON PERFORMANCE, and PürSpeed Racing. where did you that information from? and yes, i am good friends with chris@APEX, and have been for 4 years!!! WAAAAYY before he even worked at apex or even moved to the bay area for that matter, so that has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. man, your score just went down a good couple points in my book matt. sucks to see that....
ignore what i say uh? man, totally lame matt...totally. i guess i can say what i wanted to when it came to laurens post.
she said that the MAN in charge is a representation of everyone below them correct?
"Him and his employees are a representation of HIMSELF and HIS BUSINESS. He is running the show and it doesnt matter if he is the front runner behind the counters or in the comfort of his own home. Chris and everyone else work for HIM so bottom line....If management is weak or unethical, its effects can show in his employees."
so if the MODS can start drama, post stupid shit, let drama continue, then so can everyone else correct? ya, that's what i thought.....contradict yourself a little there...
quote: Originally posted by n8y8: Guess that explains the "Apex Credit Card".....lol. MachOne all you had to do was come out with your affiliation, no you really come across as a kiss-ass. But I cant complain, if I were sponsored (read: get free shit), from a company I would ride it until the wheels fell off too. Even if Mike Mak was going around slappin peoples momma's. So I dont blame you.
man, you dont know a lot do you? an apex credit card mean, I HAVE 0% FINANCING WITH APEX MOTORSPORTS FOR 12 MONTHS! YOU GET A CC FOR THAT!! I PAY THE BANK, AND THE BANK GIVES APEX WHAT I OWE. SO I PAY THE BANK, NOT APEX. and no i dont get FREE shit. it's not like a company card fool lol..that would be too easy haha...
the ignorance on this board is ridiculous.
marek [ April 04, 2006, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Mach0ne351 ]
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quote: Originally posted by JohnB: Uhhh, WOW.
I not going to bash APEX, I have zero reason to. What I will say is this...Mr. Mak, NOT APEX, has had every opportunity to make things right prior to his ban from the board. Ample opportunities were offered. The result? Nothing was done, the warnings he recieved from the Mod's went by the wayside, and he continued with his ways. Now, someone tells you to fix your shit, you fix your shit...right? Of course you do. You don't fix it, what happens...? You get what's coming to you. Honestly, I don't think he has a problem with anyone on the board. Sure, you have your one or two bashers, but they are everywhere...even off a public message board. I think this goes deeper than smacktalk. It has everything to do with losing business. I know, I know..."we've got plenty of cars and work to keep us busy". Seriously though, with word-of-mouth, how long do you think it will last? He loses a client base such as the potentials of CA Fords? Ya,ya...only 1/6th of the folks actually post up. How many lurk though? How many read posts and come to a conclusion without posting a SINGLE comment? A TON. Remember, first impressions are lasting impressions...and if a person can detect the slightest hint of negativity in a business, they will avoid that business, without ever stepping foot in the door. Obviously, the workers there aren't a problem, they still post here. So what does this all lead to? It's the simple fact that he is upset about his removal from CA Fords.
Plain and simple.
right on the money
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Anyway I do apologize MachOne, my comment was un-warranted and I dont want to turn this into a bash you thing (whether it is true or not I dont know and dont care). So I retract my comment, but I do know you cant un-spill milk, so I will just leave it alone as far as that goes. I was gonna apologize in a PM but I made a public remark so I'll make a public apology.
Now carry on with the topic.
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quote: Originally posted by n8y8: Anyway I do apologize MachOne, my comment was un-warranted and I dont want to turn this into a bash you thing (whether it is true or not I dont know and dont care). So I retract my comment, but I do know you cant un-spill milk, so I will just leave it alone as far as that goes. I was gonna apologize in a PM but I made a public remark so I'll make a public apology.
Now carry on with the topic.
accepted, and i also DO NOT want this to become a bashing thread at all....im not trying to pick teams here. i seriously am not.....
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what he did is not cool at all. never had a problem at apex , guys that work there preety kool. but you will probably not see me go there again or my buddys. that shit is not cool at all. all i hear is bad stuff about that place, which sucks because it looks like a kool shop. mostley i hear about the owner.that was such a money hungry dick move(i will sue you) wow. You guys should post this on all the other mustang sites, see what they think as well.i would like for him to post how he feels inside about this whole thing, if hes a kool cat he would of replyd to this thread. yea hes banned but theres ways to get around that. but whatever, just wont go there no more atleast untill shit is right
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Well, I think there is a simple solution to all of this. If you have a bad experience with a business, talk about it on the street. Its called word of mouth, and it can make or break any bussiness, and word of mouth is always going to go around weather its good or bad. You have to be carful what you put in writting though. If I were in charge of this site I would make it required to read this post before becoming a member, then immediatly ban anyone that vilotes the rule.
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I wasnt going to get involved but after reading all that I thought about all the help I have gotten from this site and I trust all the people that give me advice, so why would I not listen to people that have had negetive experiences with apex. all the people on apex's nuts should go find another forum.
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quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9: quote: Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep: quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9: quote: Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep: quote: Originally posted by 9Venom9:
I think your taking it too personal now. Just from posting this picture i get the feeling you want to physically fight over this matter. I don't think that is nessesary in this situation, since this is just a matter of opinion and disagreement.
Nice try there buddy...
what was i trying to do? I was just stating how i felt the picture represented.
And you said this to the last 50 people who have posted this pic on here in the last year? Or just trying to create something else to argue over?
i have never seen this picture until you posted it. [ April 04, 2006, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]
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