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Originally posted by Phantom_5.0_2013:
Shaun is a ok tuner, he does what he does to make $ (tuning) but his customer service is (personally talking) garbage. The situation he is in, that wasn't right for him to do to another human being trying to make a living like he is....here's my experience with him, and this off the record isn't to bash.

When I had my supercharged 5.0 tuned by that guy, I was told 500 for a tuning session and I said ok. Took it down there from San Jose, and when I got there he had me and my boy wrech on my own car (I'm paying Shaun for tuning remember) trying to get my JMS boost pump working. While we were doing that I was told on the spot I had to bring my own e85 (wasn't told that before I came) so my friend had to drive 20 mins down the road to get e85 for me (asked for 5 gallons). While he's doing that Shaun kept going off on how time is being wasted.once we couldn't get the boosta pump to work my buddy got back with the e85 (with jugs Shaun let us use to get the gas) said oh no can't tune e85 for your car sorry. We then just went with a pump gas tune for my car............while this guys tuning my car, he is now uploading my tunes into my brand new x4 SCT tuner. Whole uploading he rips the plug out and the tuner went into a safety mode and wouldn't turn back on to the home screen......NOW my car is stuck with Shaun's "Dangerous" tune which he runs on every car he stated as a base tune then takes timing off to make it safe for others cars. At this point I'm trippin out like this guy is gonna blow my car up. Wow. So he told me to mix 100 octane with this tune stuck on my car because my tuner "took a crap" on me and he'll send via email me my safe tune once my tuner gets fixed.
So I left AED having to pay 550, not 500, 550 because shaun forgot to tell me it's extra $ for e85. I paid up, got no tune for my car leaving besides that crazy tune he put on my car and he kept my e85:(

I love aed

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Originally posted by 2T0NE:
AED WILL BE OK BELIEVE ME..Shaun is a great tuner and knows his shit... he has always been helpful and exceeded my cars expectations ... I will be sporting my exclusive "AED sux " stickers here in carlsbad .. And once again AED FTMFW

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Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:
I could care less about this situation but it does suck for both parties buts it's not my problem. Shaun still is a badass tuner. My stang drives and runs great. AED FTW!

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FTW for now until he calls your work to get you fired.

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I could care less about this situation but it does suck for both parties buts it's not my problem. Shaun still is a badass tuner. My stang drives and runs great. AED FTW!

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FTW for now until he calls your work to get you fired.

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You can't fire a boss like myself bro so i have nothing to worry about

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Originally posted by Phantom_5.0_2013:
Shaun is a ok tuner, he does what he does to make $ (tuning) but his customer service is (personally talking) garbage. The situation he is in, that wasn't right for him to do to another human being trying to make a living like he is....here's my experience with him, and this off the record isn't to bash.

When I had my supercharged 5.0 tuned by that guy, I was told 500 for a tuning session and I said ok. Took it down there from San Jose, and when I got there he had me and my boy wrech on my own car (I'm paying Shaun for tuning remember) trying to get my JMS boost pump working. While we were doing that I was told on the spot I had to bring my own e85 (wasn't told that before I came) so my friend had to drive 20 mins down the road to get e85 for me (asked for 5 gallons). While he's doing that Shaun kept going off on how time is being wasted.once we couldn't get the boosta pump to work my buddy got back with the e85 (with jugs Shaun let us use to get the gas) said oh no can't tune e85 for your car sorry. We then just went with a pump gas tune for my car............while this guys tuning my car, he is now uploading my tunes into my brand new x4 SCT tuner. Whole uploading he rips the plug out and the tuner went into a safety mode and wouldn't turn back on to the home screen......NOW my car is stuck with Shaun's "Dangerous" tune which he runs on every car he stated as a base tune then takes timing off to make it safe for others cars. At this point I'm trippin out like this guy is gonna blow my car up. Wow. So he told me to mix 100 octane with this tune stuck on my car because my tuner "took a crap" on me and he'll send via email me my safe tune once my tuner gets fixed.
So I left AED having to pay 550, not 500, 550 because shaun forgot to tell me it's extra $ for e85. I paid up, got no tune for my car leaving besides that crazy tune he put on my car and he kept my e85:(

I love aed

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probably used your e85 gas to tune the next guy, what a dick move to not be able to tune your shit n yet scheduling another appt right after yours. That's why you make damn appointments!!!!!

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Originally posted by SwEeT03Gt:

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Originally posted by Phantom_5.0_2013:
Shaun is a ok tuner, he does what he does to make $ (tuning) but his customer service is (personally talking) garbage. The situation he is in, that wasn't right for him to do to another human being trying to make a living like he is....here's my experience with him, and this off the record isn't to bash.

When I had my supercharged 5.0 tuned by that guy, I was told 500 for a tuning session and I said ok. Took it down there from San Jose, and when I got there he had me and my boy wrech on my own car (I'm paying Shaun for tuning remember) trying to get my JMS boost pump working. While we were doing that I was told on the spot I had to bring my own e85 (wasn't told that before I came) so my friend had to drive 20 mins down the road to get e85 for me (asked for 5 gallons). While he's doing that Shaun kept going off on how time is being wasted.once we couldn't get the boosta pump to work my buddy got back with the e85 (with jugs Shaun let us use to get the gas) said oh no can't tune e85 for your car sorry. We then just went with a pump gas tune for my car............while this guys tuning my car, he is now uploading my tunes into my brand new x4 SCT tuner. Whole uploading he rips the plug out and the tuner went into a safety mode and wouldn't turn back on to the home screen......NOW my car is stuck with Shaun's "Dangerous" tune which he runs on every car he stated as a base tune then takes timing off to make it safe for others cars. At this point I'm trippin out like this guy is gonna blow my car up. Wow. So he told me to mix 100 octane with this tune stuck on my car because my tuner "took a crap" on me and he'll send via email me my safe tune once my tuner gets fixed.
So I left AED having to pay 550, not 500, 550 because shaun forgot to tell me it's extra $ for e85. I paid up, got no tune for my car leaving besides that crazy tune he put on my car and he kept my e85:(

I love aed

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probably used your e85 gas to tune the next guy, what a dick move to not be able to tune your shit n yet scheduling another appt right after yours. That's why you make damn appointments!!!!!

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Originally posted by hidnn0s:
Everyone here stating "I will never leave AED, they are the best" etc are brilliant. If they say otherwise they know to expect a phone call into the office from their boss...... That was a low down dirty move I'd expect from Mike Mak etc.

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Originally posted by Phantom_5.0_2013:
Shaun is a ok tuner, he does what he does to make $ (tuning) but his customer service is (personally talking) garbage. The situation he is in, that wasn't right for him to do to another human being trying to make a living like he is....here's my experience with him, and this off the record isn't to bash.

When I had my supercharged 5.0 tuned by that guy, I was told 500 for a tuning session and I said ok. Took it down there from San Jose, and when I got there he had me and my boy wrech on my own car (I'm paying Shaun for tuning remember) trying to get my JMS boost pump working. While we were doing that I was told on the spot I had to bring my own e85 (wasn't told that before I came) so my friend had to drive 20 mins down the road to get e85 for me (asked for 5 gallons). While he's doing that Shaun kept going off on how time is being wasted.once we couldn't get the boosta pump to work my buddy got back with the e85 (with jugs Shaun let us use to get the gas) said oh no can't tune e85 for your car sorry. We then just went with a pump gas tune for my car............while this guys tuning my car, he is now uploading my tunes into my brand new x4 SCT tuner. Whole uploading he rips the plug out and the tuner went into a safety mode and wouldn't turn back on to the home screen......NOW my car is stuck with Shaun's "Dangerous" tune which he runs on every car he stated as a base tune then takes timing off to make it safe for others cars. At this point I'm trippin out like this guy is gonna blow my car up. Wow. So he told me to mix 100 octane with this tune stuck on my car because my tuner "took a crap" on me and he'll send via email me my safe tune once my tuner gets fixed.
So I left AED having to pay 550, not 500, 550 because shaun forgot to tell me it's extra $ for e85. I paid up, got no tune for my car leaving besides that crazy tune he put on my car and he kept my e85:(

I love aed

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDqeigwPlt4

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Yes I made a mistake. I should not have called RDF and informed them Thomas was doing side jobs, but he was not in any danger of being fired.

The internet is a nasty beast and lies are spread around far to easily. This goes far beyond what most know or care to listen to, but I'll post a little more info anyway.

The fact is Beefcake and I had a run-in at PRI in Dec 2012. I was drunk off my ass and Terry asked me to tune his Race car in front of at least a dozen others in the industry (tuners and shops). I declinded stating he was sponsored by Lund Racing and that would be wrong of him and I if I were to tune his car. He egged me on for a good 10min and a good size crowd grew around us. Repeatedly I told him I would not tune his vehicle and he needed to stay with Lund. The next day he an his wife approached me while I was strolling around the show on my own. Again he asked me to tune his vehicle stating it drove very poorly and he did not care what anybody said, he just wanted his car to drive right and he heard my tunes drove better. I again declinded and we parted ways.

A few days later I received a PM from Beefcake, here it is:
"I know I said send me a file and lets see how great it is. I think that was taken out of context and at this point i'm pretty pi$$ed off.

Apparently it's going around the tuning world that i'm going to start having you tune my car.

I don't seem to remember me actually sending you a file on the car, any info on the car, any money to the car, or so much as a PM on tuning the car.

I would appreciate it if you and your buddies would quit passing around false information. I try to be cordial with other people in the business, especially since you vend on the same forum ,and some of my customers use you for tuning.

I'll be damned if I'm going to have you running around stirring the ***ing pot like that though. You say you don't want to "step on anyone's toes", yet your doing exactly that behind closed doors.

You don't think that info is going to get back around to me?

Not trying to be a complete dick, but what have you tuned that is actually quick. My car runs damn near 8's at full weight in full street trim. It's one of the 3 fastest street 5.0's out there. And lund tunes them all. Why would I trust my car to anyone else. I am also a vendor for Lund racing, and that's where my loyalty lies.

So, don't take some drunk joking (as a comment to something you said), as anything more than that.

I don't want to hear about my name ever being mentioned again with your tuning. Or the next meeting won't go so well.

You said it yourself. You know who the big dog is.

I thought it would be nice for us to be friendly and cordial since we deal with the same community, I didn't realize the Shit talker that you are.

Beef"

Apparently someone that was present during our drunken exchange took it upon themselves to contact Jon Lund and inform him what Terry had asked me to do. Word around the cooler is Terry was threatened by Ken B. to be cut off and I know for a fact Jon was not happy about it. For the record I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, but I did find out who told Jon and why they did it. I also expressed my displeasure with that person as I knew it would only cause me drama. Little did I know how far Terry would go to retaliate.

To save Face and not lose Lund Racing as a vendor Terry spun the whole thing as I approached him and begged him to tune his car.
This put a HUGE riff between Lund Racing and AED, who up until that point were on cordial terms.

Terry then set on an AED Smear campaign online that has been escalating ever since. From online arguments to having his customers make up stories and bash me online, it's what some refer to as the AED vs Beef BS.

Skip ahead to this spring/summer and Terry was giving Thomas smoking deals on parts in an effort to court him away from AED. Thomas wasn't leaving easily, but a deal was struck and Thomas was not only given parts, but then HIRED by Terry.

You can put 2 and 2 together here if you wish, but the way I see it is Thomas was targeted by Terry specifically because he was an AED customer and it looks Very BAD online if an active AED supporter like Thomas turns to Lund Racing. I actually called Thomas and discussed this with him on the phone when I found out he was having Lund tune his car. We discussed the implications of starting drama on the message boards and Thomas assured me he would NOT say anything negative about me or AED as he would not want the same done to him.

Shortly thereafter Thomas was hired by Terry. If you ask me it's now clear specifically to tarnish my reputation as a tuner. From Posts to PM's, emails, and phone conversations, I heard and saw what Thomas was saying to people in an effort to sway them away from AED both online and local. It's what we call Slander, but he would call it his experience with AED. Ultimately he is an EMPLOYEE OF OUR COMPETITION, and employee of an man/company that has been actively attaching AED for nearly 2 years.

Since he is an EMPLOYEE of Team BeefCake Racing and he is actively slandering our name at AED both locally and online I took it upon myself to do a Dick move and that is MY MISTAKE. I've already apologized to Thomas publicly.

Say what you will, I made a mistake. Live and learn, I'm only human. I make mistakes just like everyone else.
At least I am man enough to own up to it.

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