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Originally posted by slowback67:
It must be nice to get to spend other people's money on what you feel is the best for them... And make more then most of us and not be held responsible for your fuck ups !

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
you guys are never gunna get threw to these crazy west wings

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you guys are never gunna get threw to these crazy west wings

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Originally posted by slowback67:
I think Obama is all talk... Like most of these elected people...

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Exactly, this is a very (semi) responsible statement. And pretty much what I have been saying the whole time. but the thing that makes it not come full circle is any of you guys owning up and admitting what a fuck up the last president was (the one you voted for). And what a absolute catastrophe he left the US in (for Obama to fix). All you guys can do is speculate about Obama. And I can respect that. But Bush absolutely fucked and did nothing good in 8 years. So that has been realized. Yet you want to sit here and harp on the potential fuck ups Obama may make and dance around the the mistakes that your chosen president made. It is the second half that makes me fly the

Just curious why none of you will man up and admit Bush fucked up about as bad as any president has? Actually I wonder why no one owns up to the travesty that is known and George W Bush.

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I think Obama is all talk... Like most of these elected people...

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Exactly, this is a very (semi) responsible statement. And pretty much what I have been saying the whole time. but the thing that makes it not come full circle is any of you guys owning up and admitting what a fuck up the last president was (the one you voted for). And what a absolute catastrophe he left the US in (for Obama to fix). All you guys can do is speculate about Obama. And I can respect that. But Bush absolutely fucked and did nothing good in 8 years. So that has been realized. Yet you want to sit here and harp on the potential fuck ups Obama may make and dance around the the mistakes that your chosen president made. It is the second half that makes me fly the

Just curious why none of you will man up and admit Bush fucked up about as bad as any president has? Actually I wonder why no one owns up to the travesty that is known and George W Bush.

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because your the only one living in the past! sorry N8, but ima deal with the fuck up at hand! who gives a fuck what bush DID, this is the now!!!!!! how about you own up to what fuck ups are about to happen!!!!!!!! so heres my to you!!!!!!

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Originally posted by slowback67:
I think Obama is all talk... Like most of these elected people...

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Exactly, this is a very (semi) responsible statement. And pretty much what I have been saying the whole time. but the thing that makes it not come full circle is any of you guys owning up and admitting what a fuck up the last president was (the one you voted for). And what a absolute catastrophe he left the US in (for Obama to fix). All you guys can do is speculate about Obama. And I can respect that. But Bush absolutely fucked and did nothing good in 8 years. So that has been realized. Yet you want to sit here and harp on the potential fuck ups Obama may make and dance around the the mistakes that your chosen president made. It is the second half that makes me fly the

Just curious why none of you will man up and admit Bush fucked up about as bad as any president has? Actually I wonder why no one owns up to the travesty that is known and George W Bush.

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because your the only one living in the past! sorry N8, but ima deal with the fuck up at hand! who gives a fuck what bush DID, this is the now!!!!!! how about you own up to what fuck ups are about to happen!!!!!!!! so heres my to you!!!!!!

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Originally posted by slowback67:
I was against the big spending that bush did
I was and still am for our actions in Iraq and afgan.
( funny how people forget that Clinton was told Iraq had WMD's and those same people told Bush... Didn't Clinton have a chance to take out bin laden? Must have been to busy cheating on his wife
Didn't bush sign the no child left behind bill? That was a dumb thing to do right... Only someone who doesn't care about black people would do something like that
Letting the Clinton wepons ban die was one of the things I was happy about.
Would love to know what Al Gore would have done on September 11 2001 oh I forgot bush was found at fault for that one too... That wouldn't have happed if the man who invented the Internet would have been running the show

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I think Obama is all talk... Like most of these elected people...

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Exactly, this is a very (semi) responsible statement. And pretty much what I have been saying the whole time. but the thing that makes it not come full circle is any of you guys owning up and admitting what a fuck up the last president was (the one you voted for). And what a absolute catastrophe he left the US in (for Obama to fix). All you guys can do is speculate about Obama. And I can respect that. But Bush absolutely fucked and did nothing good in 8 years. So that has been realized. Yet you want to sit here and harp on the potential fuck ups Obama may make and dance around the the mistakes that your chosen president made. It is the second half that makes me fly the

Just curious why none of you will man up and admit Bush fucked up about as bad as any president has? Actually I wonder why no one owns up to the travesty that is known and George W Bush.

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because your the only one living in the past! sorry N8, but ima deal with the fuck up at hand! who gives a fuck what bush DID, this is the now!!!!!! how about you own up to what fuck ups are about to happen!!!!!!!! so heres my to you!!!!!!

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i agree, yeah Bush fucked up...

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That is exactly what i wanted to hear. To me it makes all your opinions valid, when you can agree that the person beforehand fucked up. Why you ask? Because to me you understand that the nation is in a serious state of turmoil, which was not caused by the current president but he bears the burden of fixing it. So you have a pre-conceived notion of what it takes to fix it and frankly you do not think the president is doing enough. That I can live with. But if you think he is the reason everything is the way it is and is the sole cause, which most people who voted for Bush seems to think. Then it actually makes the Obama detractor arguments very weak, so much so it isnt even worth speaking to them, because their views aren't realistic. I mean Bush had 8 years to mess this up not only is it near impossible to right it in 4 years, but most are asking that he do it in the less than a year. Also I do not think Bush has been removed enough to totally absolve him of responsibility, yes I know he no longer has the voice of the nation, but a lot of things that he put in motion are still a fat anchor on this government and economy. The Iraq war being one. Our economy will likely never rebound fully as long as we are over there.

Now I am not totally against being there. But our mission is so fuzzy now, the plan was retarded and intelligence was about as smart as Bush. We need a better leader to pull off something of that magnitude. And until that is over Bush stain on this country remains. So IMO, Bush still has everything to do with this horrible socio-economic environment.

I am pretty much done, I really just wanted to hear one person against Obama, stand up and admit, Bush messsed us up bad. And I commend you Dana for being that one. It makes me respect your position on this all the more

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Originally posted by 86- 50:
I'm with n8 on this one, you guys are so quick to talk about obama, and whats funny is that even if obama fucks up badly and don't do nothing he promised(WHICH HE ALREADY DID A FEW OF THEM) he still isnt going to be half as bad s bush that you guys had little to nothing to say about the eight years he was in office

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Originally posted by t top freak:
all bullshit aside i hope his policies and "changes" work.

if he succeeds then we all succeed.

oh im a republican.

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all bullshit aside i hope his policies and "changes" work.

if he succeeds then we all succeed.

oh im a republican.

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so you want national healthcare, the end G.B., the end of waterboarding, more deficit spending, gun bans, end the trading embargo with Cuba, gov. Owned banks and car company's,cap and trade(tax on energy), amnesty for illegals who will vote democratic on everything.....
I feel the same way Rush does, I want Obama's "policy's" to fail

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Originally posted by slowback67:

If the gov. Didn't make American car companys bend over backwards with unions and cafe standards they wouldn't be broke.

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If the gov. Didn't make American car companys bend over backwards with unions and cafe standards they wouldn't be broke.

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that is so false.

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If the gov. Didn't make American car companys bend over backwards with unions and cafe standards they wouldn't be broke.

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that is so false.

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why are they broke then?

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90gtvert

is my new bestest friend...lol. reserve judgment for the appropriate time. and if you take that "if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck" stance with obama. Then why did you let Bush pour syrup on shit and tell you its pancakes is my main point. I am pro obama but I am not pro fuck up. meaning if obama messes up then I will criticise him too. but at the right moment.

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I was a republican until this election, I had to re-register ..... I am pro-obama as well, as the same republican bullshit that happened for the last 8 years (that i soooooo wrongly approved) messed us up and we need real change.

Now if Obama fucks up ill be the first to jump off the bandwagon...but i REALLY REALLY hope for the sake of the US that he doesnt.

Mike

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Originally posted by N8:
That is exactly what i wanted to hear. To me it makes all your opinions valid, when you can agree that the person beforehand fucked up. Why you ask? Because to me you understand that the nation is in a serious state of turmoil, which was not caused by the current president but he bears the burden of fixing it. So you have a pre-conceived notion of what it takes to fix it and frankly you do not think the president is doing enough. That I can live with. But if you think he is the reason everything is the way it is and is the sole cause, which most people who voted for Bush seems to think. Then it actually makes the Obama detractor arguments very weak, so much so it isnt even worth speaking to them, because their views aren't realistic. I mean Bush had 8 years to mess this up not only is it near impossible to right it in 4 years, but most are asking that he do it in the less than a year. Also I do not think Bush has been removed enough to totally absolve him of responsibility, yes I know he no longer has the voice of the nation, but a lot of things that he put in motion are still a fat anchor on this government and economy. The Iraq war being one. Our economy will likely never rebound fully as long as we are over there.

Now I am not totally against being there. But our mission is so fuzzy now, the plan was retarded and intelligence was about as smart as Bush. We need a better leader to pull off something of that magnitude. And until that is over Bush stain on this country remains. So IMO, Bush still has everything to do with this horrible socio-economic environment.

I am pretty much done, I really just wanted to hear one person against Obama, stand up and admit, Bush messsed us up bad. And I commend you Dana for being that one. It makes me respect your position on this all the more

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