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Originally posted by stangin':
bush has only been president of the united states of america for 8 yrs. he has nothing to do with our economic state that we're in. don't be a fool and believe that he did.

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Just want to touch on this. Because if this was a political debate you would get ripped to shreds on that statement. It kinda goes back to the old saying "If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem". And for you to sit there and say what you said is not a feather in his cap. Eight years is ample time to turn a economy around. The correct statement would be "what he has done in his short 8 years to help the economy". Which is nothing. But he did place us in a war that has an excellent ROI margin...huh. Not trying to be inflammatory but think about it. What is most important is what he didn't do. When you focus on what he did do, is when you encounter smoke and mirrors. Measure him what he didn't do and you can summarize him in a more objective light IMO.

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N8 , if you've been following my posts, you would probably catch the sarcasm there. only a blind man would preach those words. i've got 20/20 vision.

so, who's putting deep dish FR500 like their momma? i don't have a mustang so i can't .

[ September 28, 2008, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: stangin' ]

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Savin look what you started! LOL

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Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly .

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Savin look what you started! LOL

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Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly .

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Its really sad where this site has gone. This same thing is what happened to wcfords too. Glad you are still hangin in there!

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Savin look what you started! LOL

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Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly .

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Its really sad where this site has gone. This same thing is what happened to wcfords too. Glad you are still hangin in there!

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Originally posted by fr5.0:

do you like your mustang, and like to drive it?
Do you like your guns, and like to protect you and yours with them?
do you want your economy to get better?
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i just want to say,

1. i love mustangs. since 1964, when was the last time someone said you couldn't own or drive a mustang?

2. i don't know much about gun laws and such, but when was the last time guns were banned in the U.S.? there's been plenty of democ. presidents, congressmen, senates, etc. in the past, right?

3. i sure do want our economy to get better. it's a good thing we can agree on something here .

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Savin look what you started! LOL

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Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly .

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Its really sad where this site has gone. This same thing is what happened to wcfords too. Glad you are still hangin in there!

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Black88GT,

union is the mob is it not? you pay to work do you not? think bigger unions only walk on the side of the street that helps them selves out, if they didnt they wouldnt make you pay to work.
do you like your mustang, and like to drive it?
Do you like your guns, and like to protect you and yours with them?
do you want your economy to get better?
look at page one 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' 's post a better description of what i would say.

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Yea, Thats a good reason to vote for someone right now, Obama is really going to take away our right to have legal guns, and being able to drive our mustangs . If thats why your voting mccain you have a real problem, we have way bigger problems to worry about right now, But i guess those 2 things is more inportant than your house losing half its value in less than 2 years, or living in a country that 8 years ago was a powerhouse, and now there's a handful of country's that could come a fuck us up because were wasting all our resources on the pointless war in iraq.

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If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me.

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Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.

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You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL
Savin look what you started! LOL

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Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me.

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Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.

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You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL
Savin look what you started! LOL

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He cant do anything for you. Nothing at all, becuase youre a union member... Only Obama can help union members. I didnt just talk crap about your union I included you aswell. You and I both know if you were any good at your job there is better pay in non union companies, BUT you cant be a retard, you have to work for yours. Unions are welfare to slow learning employees who wouldnt get promoted without the unions help. So what Im saying is, is I kinda dont want to go back and forth with you, as I view you as a lower individual mentaly wise than myself. Retard. Oh and A also like name calling.

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What exactly do you do for a living? you sound very imature, and people with an education dont talk like you do.

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Originally posted by Dave50:

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Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me.

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Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.

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You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL
Savin look what you started! LOL

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He cant do anything for you. Nothing at all, becuase youre a union member... Only Obama can help union members. I didnt just talk crap about your union I included you aswell. You and I both know if you were any good at your job there is better pay in non union companies, BUT you cant be a retard, you have to work for yours. Unions are welfare to slow learning employees who wouldnt get promoted without the unions help. So what Im saying is, is I kinda dont want to go back and forth with you, as I view you as a lower individual mentaly wise than myself. Retard. Oh and A also like name calling.

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Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
some people believe that the government should take care of them from birth to death. health care. tax the rich and give that money to the poor. for the sake of being FAIR. obama promises to give that.

i dont believe that the government should be involved in things like that. its just that simple.

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Originally posted by Black88GT:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave50:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Black88GT:
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Savin look what you started! LOL

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Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly .

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Its really sad where this site has gone. This same thing is what happened to wcfords too. Glad you are still hangin in there!

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Black88GT,

union is the mob is it not? you pay to work do you not? think bigger unions only walk on the side of the street that helps them selves out, if they didnt they wouldnt make you pay to work.
do you like your mustang, and like to drive it?
Do you like your guns, and like to protect you and yours with them?
do you want your economy to get better?
look at page one 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' 's post a better description of what i would say.

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Yea, Thats a good reason to vote for someone right now, Obama is really going to take away our right to have legal guns, and being able to drive our mustangs . If thats why your voting mccain you have a real problem, we have way bigger problems to worry about right now, But i guess those 2 things is more inportant than your house losing half its value in less than 2 years, or living in a country that 8 years ago was a powerhouse, and now there's a handful of country's that could come a fuck us up because were wasting all our resources on the pointless war in iraq.

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Originally posted by Dave50:

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Originally posted by Black88GT:

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Originally posted by Dave50:

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Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me.

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Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.

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You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL
Savin look what you started! LOL

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He cant do anything for you. Nothing at all, becuase youre a union member... Only Obama can help union members. I didnt just talk crap about your union I included you aswell. You and I both know if you were any good at your job there is better pay in non union companies, BUT you cant be a retard, you have to work for yours. Unions are welfare to slow learning employees who wouldnt get promoted without the unions help. So what Im saying is, is I kinda dont want to go back and forth with you, as I view you as a lower individual mentaly wise than myself. Retard. Oh and A also like name calling.

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my union is putting me through over 30k worth of schooling that a non-union worker would have to pay out of pocket.....i have more work then i could possibly want,with my dues taken out i make more than ANY non union worker with the same aqmount of time put in as i have. I have one of the best benefit packages you could imagine,and at this point my minimum i am going to make when my apprenticeship is done is 47hr with dues taken out............add that up son idc what they take out as long as im making whats in my contract i dont give a fuk what they do.....edit i know dave50 is gunna respond with a useless post,tough post or a post with information he made up in his head while on his nintendo in lincoln

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<------ that means BS You actualy made that shit up! Show me where I made some shit up. I made this shit up aswell http://www.unionfacts.com/states/state.cfm?state=CA

[ September 29, 2008, 01:57 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]

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This thread is a "EPIC FAIL"

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Talking politics, is like talking religion. No matter what you think or believe you are not going to change another persons opinion. Whatever happened to talking about cars?
Anybody watch football today? Farve had six touchdowns , Raiders and 49ers lost as usual, and the fucking Cowboys lost
Who is going to win the World Series this year?

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LMAO! You ride a V-Max you sorry ass fat poser. Id rather you vote for Obama. You have only been clowned on these forums and the fact is, you never even made 1 single internet buddy here. Leave dum dum. Everyone knows there is more money in non Union jobs if youre not an idiot. Unions advance retards like you on time alone where as you would still be baggin groceries aT youR local market. As far as benefits? You can get medical plans for less than your dues costs. You can set up your own retirement plans, but union members are so sheltered and slow they dont know what retirement funds are and the fact you can invest your own money for the future LOL. Keep paying you dues and playing puppet also dont forget your tithing.

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