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Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
mccain FTMFL!

Foreign Policy

Another intelligent answer!

[ September 27, 2008, 01:38 AM: Message edited by: stangin' ]
 
Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
I would like to hear Obama's foreign policy experience. Oh yeah, thats right he doesn't have any [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
and to think if old man mccain passes anytime during office, she would be our president!! [Eek!]
 
Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by uh0h50:
and to think if old man mccain passes anytime during office, she would be our president!! [Eek!]

McCain has good geans. I think he will make it through no problem. His mom is in her 90's and still kicking.
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':
quote:
Originally posted by uh0h50:
and to think if old man mccain passes anytime during office, she would be our president!! [Eek!]

McCain has good geans. I think he will make it through no problem. His mom is in her 90's and still kicking.
maybe if mccain goes, his mom can take over [Roll Eyes] .
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
Im just gonna blast it out there the way it is! Until black people dont hate white people for slavery it wont be a good idea for a black man to be president. Theres more history on the white man inslaving Africans than the facts... Such as... African "slave traders", YES black Africans in africa capured Africans and sold them to white people on boats. There is never any history about the north (white folk) freeing slaves, theres no numbers being told of how many crackers lost their lives freeing the south of slavery. No its all about the cracka did this! But then again the cracka did do THIS-he free'd the south of slavery-he didnt invade africa and CAPTURE black folk-SOME crackas bought "slaves" from african slave traders but there was never an invasion. Please do not vote for Obama because of his skin color, Yes I understand CRACKERS made this GREAT nation what it is today! And that is the undisputed greatest nation there is, and Africa is in shambles. but please go with the more qualified candidate. Ignore skin color. PLEASE! If you think Obama's short political resume is qualified, then vote for him by all means, but just remember it wasnt the white man selling african-slaves it was the African capturing and selling them to the crackas boats. And since there is a brotherhood? Where is the African relief fund the naacp set up for Africa? There is a AIDS epidemic, poverty, starvation... Oh wait never mind the crackas is handling Africa-please look up how many crackas is offering free aid. There is no USA african relief fund... History does repeat itself.
 
Posted by lambonotch (Member # 5758) on :
 
wow gotta love dave50. altho most people will bash him and disagree because their on their knees blowing obama, i give you props for speeking yo mind.
 
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
Im just gonna blast it out there the way it is! Until black people dont hate white people for slavery it wont be a good idea for a black man to be president. Theres more history on the white man inslaving Africans than the facts... Such as... African "slave traders", YES black Africans in africa capured Africans and sold them to white people on boats. There is never any history about the north (white folk) freeing slaves, theres no numbers being told of how many crackers lost their lives freeing the south of slavery. No its all about the cracka did this! But then again the cracka did do THIS-he free'd the south of slavery-he didnt invade africa and CAPTURE black folk-SOME crackas bought "slaves" from african slave traders but there was never an invasion. Please do not vote for Obama because of his skin color, Yes I understand CRACKERS made this GREAT nation what it is today! And that is the undisputed greatest nation there is, and Africa is in shambles. but please go with the more qualified candidate. Ignore skin color. PLEASE! If you think Obama's short political resume is qualified, then vote for him by all means, but just remember it wasnt the white man selling african-slaves it was the African capturing and selling them to the crackas boats. And since there is a brotherhood? Where is the African relief fund the naacp set up for Africa? There is a AIDS epidemic, poverty, starvation... Oh wait never mind the crackas is handling Africa-please look up how many crackas is offering free aid. There is no USA african relief fund... History does repeat itself.

That got to be the most stupid post i ever seen on this site. The point is we need change, bush fucked this country up far beyound what the next president can turn around, but hopefully the next president gets us going in the right steps.
By the way, did you see obama kill mccain in debate tonight. You need to ask yourself, are you going to vote not based on skin color.
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 86- 50:
The point is we need change, bush fucked this country up far beyound what the next president can turn around, but hopefully the next president gets us going in the right steps.
By the way, did you see obama kill mccain in debate tonight. You need to ask yourself, are you going to vote not based on skin color.

I love the way people blame Bush and Republicans for all the trouble in this country. Bush can't single handedly do much, the government is set up this way to keep the power out of one person's hands.

The truth is that the Democrats control the Senate and they have a ton of power too. You say we need change, well were going to get it after the election no matter what and being good at debating wont make you a good president.

There are people that will vote for Obama just because of his skin color, just like some people will vote against him for it, just like some people will swing their vote from Democrat to Republican just because a woman is in line for VP.... no matter what its a stupid reason to vote.
I have a strong feeling the Democratic controlled Senate did everything they could to fuck things up because the know most people are stupid and blame the president and the party he represents. I'm sure the Republicans would have done the same thing because they're all assholes too.

In general Democratic views don't support the things that are important to me: the environment, oil production and refining, emigration issues, general pussyness.....

The fact is that we are all here on this board with a love for one thing: cars.... fast cars that are loud, cars we can drive fast and have fun in, cars we modify to be part of a group but be different at the same time, cars that are powered by fuel produced from oil..... oil that the Democratic party only wants to rid the world of because it and cars are a huge problem with the environment. People want to cry about the price of gas but really look into who's cockblocking issues to actually drill for oil and refine it: pussy ass Democratic, liberal environmentalists. Its like a crackhead calling the cops on the dealer then figuring out he can't get his fix..... you want refined oil to run your car but want to rid the country of the people that are 100% behind us using it? Makes sense........ now get busy building your Honda hybrid hot rod. I think I've got one of those old twist grip engine noise makers off my Schwinn you can use so that sweet electric motor doesn't lull you to sleep.

[ September 27, 2008, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: asskickn88 ]
 
Posted by 91 5.0 5speed (Member # 1867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
Im just gonna blast it out there the way it is! Until black people dont hate white people for slavery it wont be a good idea for a black man to be president. Theres more history on the white man inslaving Africans than the facts... Such as... African "slave traders", YES black Africans in africa capured Africans and sold them to white people on boats. There is never any history about the north (white folk) freeing slaves, theres no numbers being told of how many crackers lost their lives freeing the south of slavery. No its all about the cracka did this! But then again the cracka did do THIS-he free'd the south of slavery-he didnt invade africa and CAPTURE black folk-SOME crackas bought "slaves" from african slave traders but there was never an invasion. Please do not vote for Obama because of his skin color, Yes I understand CRACKERS made this GREAT nation what it is today! And that is the undisputed greatest nation there is, and Africa is in shambles. but please go with the more qualified candidate. Ignore skin color. PLEASE! If you think Obama's short political resume is qualified, then vote for him by all means, but just remember it wasnt the white man selling african-slaves it was the African capturing and selling them to the crackas boats. And since there is a brotherhood? Where is the African relief fund the naacp set up for Africa? There is a AIDS epidemic, poverty, starvation... Oh wait never mind the crackas is handling Africa-please look up how many crackas is offering free aid. There is no USA african relief fund... History does repeat itself.

I could say so much about how stupid this post is but rather than waste my time proving your ignorance I will just give you a few of these [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] Typical person from Lincoln
 
Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by asskickn88:

I have a strong feeling the Democratic controlled Senate did everything they could to fuck things up because the know most people are stupid and blame the president and the party he represents. I'm sure the Republicans would have done the same thing because they're all assholes too.

In general Democratic views don't support the things that are important to me: the environment, oil production and refining, emigration issues, general pussyness.....

The fact is that we are all here on this board with a love for one thing: cars.... fast cars that are loud, cars we can drive fast and have fun in, cars we modify to be part of a group but be different at the same time, cars that are powered by fuel produced from oil..... oil that the Democratic party only wants to rid the world of because it and cars are a huge problem with the environment. People want to cry about the price of gas but really look into who's cockblocking issues to actually drill for oil and refine it: pussy ass Democratic, liberal environmentalists. Its like a crackhead calling the cops on the dealer then figuring out he can't get his fix..... you want refined oil to run your car but want to rid the country of the people that are 100% behind us using it? Makes sense........ now get busy building your Honda hybrid hot rod. I think I've got one of those old twist grip engine noise makers off my Schwinn you can use so that sweet electric motor doesn't lull you to sleep.

Very True


I also like how people thinnk Bush is single reason why the economy is doing so bad. Also how they think he is responsible for the housing market. People(Liberals) need to look and see who put these orders in. What party wanted low income families to have homes and get subprime morgage loans. It was the "all mighty" Clinton administration that made all that happen. All the economy is doing is cleaning itself of it's virus(SHITY Loans) Obama will do similar things and kill us even more with more Government spending and more bureaucracy. He complains about Mccain's Tax code reform and cutting higher income taxes. Obama says we will loose so much money in income tax, but never says how much we are gona loose when 95% of the people are getting tax breaks. He says people and businesses that make over 250K are rich. Thats the biggest bullshit statement ever. When I ran my tile business I was grossing over 500k. I wasnt anywhere close to being rich. Most small business will be over 250K gross sales. And if they have to pay more taxes then they do now, you will see alot more of them going out of business then you see now. The rate is already at 35% and Mr. Bidin wants us to be more "patriotic" and pay more. Well I know that I would like to keep my money and do what I want with it, not give it to the government and let them waste it.
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':
Very True


I also like how people thinnk Bush is single reason why the economy is doing so bad. Also how they think he is responsible for the housing market. People(Liberals) need to look and see who put these orders in. What party wanted low income families to have homes and get subprime morgage loans. It was the "all mighty" Clinton administration that made all that happen. All the economy is doing is cleaning itself of it's virus(SHITY Loans) Obama will do similar things and kill us even more with more Government spending and more bureaucracy. He complains about Mccain's Tax code reform and cutting higher income taxes. Obama says we will loose so much money in income tax, but never says how much we are gona loose when 95% of the people are getting tax breaks. He says people and businesses that make over 250K are rich. Thats the biggest bullshit statement ever. When I ran my tile business I was grossing over 500k. I wasnt anywhere close to being rich. Most small business will be over 250K gross sales. And if they have to pay more taxes then they do now, you will see alot more of them going out of business then you see now. The rate is already at 35% and Mr. Bidin wants us to be more "patriotic" and pay more. Well I know that I would like to keep my money and do what I want with it, not give it to the government and let them waste it.

No matter what, any party running the country is going to have sides we don't like. I like the South Park take on the whole thing: you end up voting for a turd or a douche and nothing is going to change that. I'm voting for the party that sides with me on the most issues, its that simple. The usual government way to get rid of something they don't like is let it get so expensive people can't afford it, then its demand drops and they got their way. Its like tobacco, they hate it so want it to cost so much people quit.... in their eyes they saved a lot of people. Oil is the same thing, they think its the devil so do everything you can to make it hard to get, the prices go up and people try to find different methods to power their cars.... government wins again. While the environment is an important issue I see us, the general public an easy target when it comes to the blame. Its not as easy for the US government to push companies and other countries around so we get stepped on. Look at a jet taking off from Sac or SF airport and tell me the shit spewing out the ass of that thing isn't equal to every car on this site running with no cats for a whole month.... and thats just one plane! Still, its our cars causing all the problems. I'd love to see a 747 with a catalytic converter welded to the ass of each engine......
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
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Plus side: good on gas, Obama for president and your I hate Bush bumper stickers will fit nicely on the bumper, that one chamber Flo with a turndown should still fit under the bumper.

Down side: car will only attract women with bush.... and arm hair, leg hair, facial hair, BO and a hemp purse. It can't "swang em" and surely wont "get hyphy", your high power stereo will most likely shut down with the drain of the electric motor under normal acceleration, your 20 inch Cobra's wont fit.
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
WOW [Frown] , i should ban myself from this site.
 
Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stangin':
WOW [Frown] , i should ban myself from this site.

Yeah you should(JK) [patriot]
 
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
Yea i guess the economy isn't bush's fault, That 10 billion a month on the pointless war were in is not hurting the economy at all, and none of your tax dollars is going there [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
joe biden: “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened,”‘ Barack Obama’s running mate recently told the “CBS Evening News.”

FRANKLIN ROOSEEVELT WAS NOT PRESIDENT AND THERE WAS NO TELEVISION AT THAT TIME!!
 
Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
do people here really support palin?
 
Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by uh0h50:
do people here really support palin?

I'm afraid they do. I don't know why people keep bringing up politics it always starts shit. Just look at at Dave50's bonehead statement... [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TrueBlue:
quote:
Originally posted by uh0h50:
do people here really support palin?

I'm afraid they do. I don't know why people keep bringing up politics it always starts shit. Just look at at Dave50's bonehead statement... [Roll Eyes]
So what i understand, is that you think what DAVE50 said is not the truth? On this site if you look around we all base comments on fact,not personal thoughts!
If we dont talk politics then hows the young nation suposed to base there votes "on skin tone like so many already have".
Your thoughts on the subject are pointless, do you even vote?
Do your self a favor and watch the movie "V for vendeta" it might be fictional, but if our country felt like you it just might happen!
Your votes and political views should be based on whats good for our country!!!!!!
McCain isnt bush jr thats such a cop out
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
FUCK BUSH . [dance]

OBAMA [patriot]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
never mind, brains don't become you any how

[ September 27, 2008, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]
 
Posted by SPIDER_STANG (Member # 8658) on :
 
WoW this thing has taken off!! I feel that we all like who we like & for what ever reason we feel they will help this country turn it self around. But I hate that race will have a big roll in this Election. I don't care who's fault it is (BUSH) but I care who will fix it. I love America but as a people most are out for themselves so unless we as a people change the country will stay the same & maybe get worse.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Both parties have their ways that Americans are gonna get screwed. I do not agree with all Obama's stuff, nor McCain. I am not really feelin McCain because he is all about keeping the troops there and continuing this frivolous war. But for everyone issue I find there will be a McCain supporter that can conjure 5 reasons why its a good idea. And vice versa for Obama. Just make sure you all take your opinionated asses and vote. This is history we are witnessing one way or the other. So vote.

Oh and go Obama!!
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
"If your NOT a liberal at 18 you have NO HEART. If your still a liberal at 25 you have NO BRAIN."
 
Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on :
 
we have no brains in the white house now.....so let's vote 4 more years of it in while we can.

Anyone who thinks Palin is a good choice, is only thinking with the head between they're legs.

McCain has backing from all the major oil companies, and has received money from them for campaigning. He will continue what Bush is going......making fat oil tycoons richer, and us paying for it.

I honestly want someone behind the desk who would really do something to HELP our country, not keep it on the slow steady pace it's on.
I don't beleive we will have that with McCain/Palin.......but that's my opinion.
I don't care what color you are, if you can do the job, and make good choices, you deserve the job.
McCain has prooven he doesn't make good choices....he picked someone who is probrubly dumber than Bush......and he CHOSE her as a running mate. It's almost BUSH-like.....DUMB

Republicans must stop saying Obama is an elitist and just admit you don't like him because of something he can't help, something that's a result of the way he was born. Admit it. You're not voting for him because he's smarter than you.
 
Posted by Black88GT (Member # 394) on :
 
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me. [patriot]
 
Posted by 95Stangman (Member # 6020) on :
 
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[patriot]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
If I have affended anyone during this thread I sincerely apologize. [patriot]
 
Posted by lambonotch (Member # 5758) on :
 
some of you people disgust me. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by TrueBlue:
quote:
Originally posted by uh0h50:
do people here really support palin?

I'm afraid they do. I don't know why people keep bringing up politics it always starts shit. Just look at at Dave50's bonehead statement...
So what i understand, is that you think what DAVE50 said is not the truth? On this site if you look around we all base comments on fact,not personal thoughts!
If we dont talk politics then hows the young nation suposed to base there votes "on skin tone like so many already have".
Your thoughts on the subject are pointless, do you even vote?
Do your self a favor and watch the movie "V for vendeta" it might be fictional, but if our country felt like you it just might happen!
Your votes and political views should be based on whats good for our country!!!!!!
McCain isnt bush jr thats such a cop out

Talking about it is good if it can be done sensibly. Facts come on, first of all i'm probably twice your age and been voting since I was able to and second I am black and don't feel any such way as the previous statement. And I own V for Vendetta and it's one of my favorite flicks. And I didn't say anything about McCain??????? just his choice of running mate. The shit start.....

[ September 28, 2008, 12:28 AM: Message edited by: TrueBlue ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
some of you people disgust me. [Roll Eyes]

LOL dont hold back lambo. Tell em how you really feel!
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
for anyone to say that people are only supporting/voting for obama b/c of race is ridiculous. i really don't give a damn what color/race you are, i'm definitely not voting based on that. i'm more worried about folks voting for mccain b/c of race. maybe some of you guys are not looking hard enough or maybe just not paying attention, but our country isn't doing so well these days. why is that? who do we blame? blame bush??? he's only our president who is "supposed" to lead our country into prosperity. we shouldn't blame him [Roll Eyes] . he should take credit for all the great things he's done [Confused] , BUT don't associate him or his party members when things go bad. the bottom line is when i hear mccain talk and debate, i only see bush with a better vocabulary. their point of views on most subjects are similar. did you guys watch the debat on friday evening?

palin for vp, see video above, nuff said:eek:. mccain would have a better chance of getting my vote if he had katie couric as vp.
 
Posted by SheerSliver03 (Member # 6589) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
joe biden: “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened,”‘ Barack Obama’s running mate recently told the “CBS Evening News.”

FRANKLIN ROOSEEVELT WAS NOT PRESIDENT AND THERE WAS NO TELEVISION AT THAT TIME!!

[patriot] [patriot] [patriot]

and for those of you who blame the whole "economic situation" on bush you are fools. the cause of the housing decline is basically people not paying notes that they agreed to pay back. banks were forced by congress to lend to poor people with "stated" income. this whole policy came about during the clinton years, good going clinton and the democrat controlled congress.

McCain Palin all the way!!!! [patriot] [patriot] [Whoo Whooooo!] [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by SheerSliver03 (Member # 6589) on :
 
here is for those of you who think the damn dems are so amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrsOe2spDE
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
bush has only been president of the united states of america for 8 yrs. he has nothing to do with our economic state that we're in. don't be a fool and believe that he did [Roll Eyes] .

just edited and added a [Roll Eyes] , IN CASE someone misunderstands what i'm trying to say [Wink] .

[ September 28, 2008, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: stangin' ]
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
some of you people disgust me. [Roll Eyes]

Who gives a shit what you think?
Lambonotch=  -
 
Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 


[ December 13, 2008, 02:34 AM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stangin':
for anyone to say that people are only supporting/voting for obama b/c of race is ridiculous. i really don't give a damn what color/race you are, i'm definitely not voting based on that. i'm more worried about folks voting for mccain b/c of race. maybe some of you guys are not looking hard enough or maybe just not paying attention, but our country isn't doing so well these days. why is that? who do we blame? blame bush??? he's only our president who is "supposed" to lead our country into prosperity. we shouldn't blame him [Roll Eyes] . he should take credit for all the great things he's done [Confused] , BUT don't associate him or his party members when things go bad. the bottom line is when i hear mccain talk and debate, i only see bush with a better vocabulary. their point of views on most subjects are similar. did you guys watch the debat on friday evening?

palin for vp, see video above, nuff said:eek:. mccain would have a better chance of getting my vote if he had katie couric as vp.

I could see how you would be worried about Mccain being elected because of race, since Obama has been referenced as Brobama, many times. Ill never vote democratic EVER! I hate gun grabbers! I need my guns to hunt, protect my family and to defend myself against martial law. I mention martial law because all us free willed, I will WORK FOR MINE! Repuclicans think of crazy shit like that. Welfare will be booming if the democrat gets in there. As far as Palin Id rather have a Citizen in office than a POLITICAIN! Polititains take college classes to learn to pause when talking, use subjective hand movement etc, remember speach class in high school? Please reference those words (Citizen and politician). As far as you seeing Mccain as bush? Well Im sorry all you see is white and black. Was Washington a Bush aswell? How about the son of a bitch lincoln!?, Fuck his Bush as too! Oh and by the way, Bush petitioned the congress and security council to authorize a strike against Iraq, then the senate and house of representatives authorized use of force in Iraq. He didnt call an aircraft carrier and say hey this is "bush" bomb them to hell. He used the system of checks and balances and by you just reading this definitain you will understand just how stupid you are for saying its bush's fault. http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0777009.html Take notice how the President can be veto'ed. Yeah, now you remember your civics class. So just briefly describe how our economy decline is bush's fault. And how the war (which should be fought until Democracy has been established so we never have to return) is bush's fault? Were not over there to spank ass were there to establish a democracy that can be stabilized and governed By free Iraqy Citizens. I sure the hell dont want another 9/11, you may, but I sure the hell was pissed my fellow Americans died by an outside country's hate.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
Oh and if you think $100 gov't hammers, Gov't credit cards being used for hookers, and $1000 lunch's will go away if Obama is in there, you are sadly mistaken. The Gov't is stronger than the president, you can campaign all the BS you want but shit wont change. Heres a good bit of political campaigning for you to think about. Its "ok" to have a bumper sticker that says women support Hilary but are there stickers that say Black people support Obama Is there one that says white people support mccain? No, because thats racist but its now OK to be sexist just not on the jobsite.

[ September 28, 2008, 03:28 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
BLACK88GT, proven fact the union is the mafia! Go figure!!!!!!
And to those who think it's not an election about race,you obviously don't follow politics.
Obama has pulled the race card so many times through his campaign, that people like young jeezy and ludacris have made raps about him telling people to vote black and don't even realize they're about to get the shit taxed out of them. They only see black beacuse the young black nation thinks they're opressed, and that's where they get the decieving slogan "we need a change" comes in to play.
Don't be decieved, Oboma is mearly a pawn in the game a marionette, if you will. Like I've said and n8, even tho I dont agree he's voting that way, vote for us, not for you. There's a bigger picture, cause voting for you now doesn't help us later remember that. Race is the main reason, belive that STANGIN....look around, educate your self. Next time you post make sure you know what your talking about.
Vote McCain, cuz ain't nobody taking my free right to bear arms!
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
Both parties have their ways that Americans are gonna get screwed. I do not agree with all Obama's stuff, nor McCain. I am not really feelin McCain because he is all about keeping the troops there and continuing this frivolous war. But for everyone issue I find there will be a McCain supporter that can conjure 5 reasons why its a good idea. And vice versa for Obama. Just make sure you all take your opinionated asses and vote. This is history we are witnessing one way or the other. So vote.

Oh and go Obama!!

i just want to elaberate on the war im going to use a medafore so use your imagination. Say you and your big brother get in to a fist fight, after so many min. you decide you dont want to fight anymore and as you get up and leave whats your big bro gunna do?........thats what terrorist are gunna do when Oboma pulls the troops out of iraq!!

[ September 28, 2008, 06:07 AM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me. [patriot]

Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.

[ September 28, 2008, 06:23 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by 707vibrantcobra93 (Member # 4702) on :
 
i'll start out by admitting that i don't vote because i don't take time out to follow politics(which is quite bad since i work for the state) but will one man really make that big of in impact on a country that is doing as poorly as ours is right now? Also i have noticed lately, not just on this site but everywhere that politics is being discussed by anyone but a politician, this obama/mccain thing is making people express somewhat racial thoughts and ideas that may never have been racist befor. it kinda seems like both guys have there ups and downs, but its going to take more than the next 4 or 8 years to make this a stable country again right?
 
Posted by 707vibrantcobra93 (Member # 4702) on :
 
please don't take my thoughts to heart, they are just one persons opinion, i'm am very much in the dark when it comes to politics
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
I am not sure why people even have discussions like this. No one is ever going to sway the other to the other side. It just leads to a bunch of insults being hurled and people googling terms like "Obama's negative issues" or "McCains troubling issues". Then coming on here spewing their non-sense like they are a on the spot analyst. Just speak your piece and keep stepping. Your not gonna change anyone's mind. None of you are political analyst. Your the political environments equivalent to a arm chair quarterback. You guys are making yourselves believe something, which is great. But trying to make others believe it is lunacy. And I don't even want to get on the pie in the sky predictions and pipe dream resolutions you guys speak of.

Each side has their faults....Just go vote and get back to talking about putting bullitts and FR's on your damn stangs.
 
Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :
 
I have sat here and read all the posts. I have not read anything saying why I should vote Obama and I never will. Anything you could say will be blown out of the water.

I would like to know why some of you are voting Obama? Also how he could make America better for everybody and yourself. I think Libs are the most brain washed people ever. They don't know any facts cause you have a liberial media that just spoon feeds them everything.

The only thing I hear is Mccain is another Bush, NOT TRUE. Look at the way he has voted and you will see he has issues with Bush too.

For the people that don't think Race isn't gona come into effect, your thinking with your head up your ass. Just like there will be women that vote for Mccain/Palin because she is a women.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':
I have sat here and read all the posts. I have not read anything saying why I should vote Obama and I never will.....

That's it in a nutshell. If you are decided that's it. Not sure anything anyone says will change your mind. And you have used very finite terms in your post. The lines are clearly drawn in the sand. They are campaigning for the undecided votes. Not trying to change the minds of people who have made their choice. Too late int he game for that. Which is why I say all this rhetoric is just plain ridiculous. And only leads to people bashing one's view.

Now who is putting 18in deep dish bullitts on their fox?
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stangin':
bush has only been president of the united states of america for 8 yrs. he has nothing to do with our economic state that we're in. don't be a fool and believe that he did.

Just want to touch on this. Because if this was a political debate you would get ripped to shreds on that statement. It kinda goes back to the old saying "If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem". And for you to sit there and say what you said is not a feather in his cap. Eight years is ample time to turn a economy around. The correct statement would be "what he has done in his short 8 years to help the economy". Which is nothing. But he did place us in a war that has an excellent ROI margin...huh. Not trying to be inflammatory but think about it. What is most important is what he didn't do. When you focus on what he did do, is when you encounter smoke and mirrors. Measure him what he didn't do and you can summarize him in a more objective light IMO.
 
Posted by Black88GT (Member # 394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me. [patriot]

Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.
You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL [patriot]
Savin look what you started! LOL
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by stangin':
bush has only been president of the united states of america for 8 yrs. he has nothing to do with our economic state that we're in. don't be a fool and believe that he did.

Just want to touch on this. Because if this was a political debate you would get ripped to shreds on that statement. It kinda goes back to the old saying "If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem". And for you to sit there and say what you said is not a feather in his cap. Eight years is ample time to turn a economy around. The correct statement would be "what he has done in his short 8 years to help the economy". Which is nothing. But he did place us in a war that has an excellent ROI margin...huh. Not trying to be inflammatory but think about it. What is most important is what he didn't do. When you focus on what he did do, is when you encounter smoke and mirrors. Measure him what he didn't do and you can summarize him in a more objective light IMO.
N8 [Big Grin] , if you've been following my posts, you would probably catch the sarcasm there. only a blind man would preach those words. i've got 20/20 vision.

so, who's putting deep dish FR500 like their momma? i don't have a mustang so i can't [Frown] .

[ September 28, 2008, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: stangin' ]
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave50:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Black88GT:
[qb]
Savin look what you started! LOL

Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly [Wink] .
 
Posted by Black88GT (Member # 394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stangin':
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave50:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Black88GT:
[qb]
Savin look what you started! LOL

Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly [Wink] .

[patriot] Its really sad where this site has gone. This same thing is what happened to wcfords too. Glad you are still hangin in there!
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
quote:
Originally posted by stangin':
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave50:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Black88GT:
[qb]
Savin look what you started! LOL

Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly [Wink] .

[patriot] Its really sad where this site has gone. This same thing is what happened to wcfords too. Glad you are still hangin in there!
Black88GT,

union is the mob is it not? you pay to work do you not? think bigger unions only walk on the side of the street that helps them selves out, if they didnt they wouldnt make you pay to work.
do you like your mustang, and like to drive it?
Do you like your guns, and like to protect you and yours with them?
do you want your economy to get better?
look at page one 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' 's post a better description of what i would say.
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:

do you like your mustang, and like to drive it?
Do you like your guns, and like to protect you and yours with them?
do you want your economy to get better?
[/QB]

i just want to say,

1. i love mustangs. since 1964, when was the last time someone said you couldn't own or drive a mustang?

2. i don't know much about gun laws and such, but when was the last time guns were banned in the U.S.? there's been plenty of democ. presidents, congressmen, senates, etc. in the past, right?

3. i sure do want our economy to get better. it's a good thing we can agree on something here [Wink] .
 
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
quote:
Originally posted by stangin':
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave50:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Black88GT:
[qb]
Savin look what you started! LOL

Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly [Wink] .

[patriot] Its really sad where this site has gone. This same thing is what happened to wcfords too. Glad you are still hangin in there!
Black88GT,

union is the mob is it not? you pay to work do you not? think bigger unions only walk on the side of the street that helps them selves out, if they didnt they wouldnt make you pay to work.
do you like your mustang, and like to drive it?
Do you like your guns, and like to protect you and yours with them?
do you want your economy to get better?
look at page one 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' 's post a better description of what i would say.

Yea, Thats a good reason to vote for someone right now, Obama is really going to take away our right to have legal guns, and being able to drive our mustangs [BS flag] . If thats why your voting mccain you have a real problem, we have way bigger problems to worry about right now, But i guess those 2 things is more inportant than your house losing half its value in less than 2 years, or living in a country that 8 years ago was a powerhouse, and now there's a handful of country's that could come a fuck us up because were wasting all our resources on the pointless war in iraq.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Who is putting bullits and fr's on their Stang this weekend.
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
I'll agree with you on the war, its BS were there and its a shitload of money wasted. One problem is if we just drop it and leave now then it could become a huge problem in the future. You can't roll in, tear out the government on a country then just walk away before they are up and running again. No matter how wrong it was to go in and take that place over it would be worse to just walk out. Anyone could go in and take over that country to do who knows what with.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me. [patriot]

Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.
You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL [patriot]
Savin look what you started! LOL

He cant do anything for you. Nothing at all, becuase youre a union member... Only Obama can help union members. I didnt just talk crap about your union I included you aswell. You and I both know if you were any good at your job there is better pay in non union companies, BUT you cant be a retard, you have to work for yours. Unions are welfare to slow learning employees who wouldnt get promoted without the unions help. So what Im saying is, is I kinda dont want to go back and forth with you, as I view you as a lower individual mentaly wise than myself. Retard. Oh and A also like name calling.
 
Posted by Black88GT (Member # 394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me. [patriot]

Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.
You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL [patriot]
Savin look what you started! LOL

He cant do anything for you. Nothing at all, becuase youre a union member... Only Obama can help union members. I didnt just talk crap about your union I included you aswell. You and I both know if you were any good at your job there is better pay in non union companies, BUT you cant be a retard, you have to work for yours. Unions are welfare to slow learning employees who wouldnt get promoted without the unions help. So what Im saying is, is I kinda dont want to go back and forth with you, as I view you as a lower individual mentaly wise than myself. Retard. Oh and A also like name calling.
What exactly do you do for a living? you sound very imature, and people with an education dont talk like you do. [Confused]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
I work for a landscaping company and just got promoted to flower planter! I worked for it! I started as the weed guy, then got promoted to mower pusher and now Ive worked my way to planter! If I keep up the hard work the boss says I may get a company truck, its an 88 F150 but hell I worked for it! I didnt pay anyone with my hard earned cash to get me promoted. If youre so educated, why are you handicapping yourself working for the union when promotions are awarded largely on the basis of seniority? If you were actualy worth a shit you wouldnt need the union. [dance]
 
Posted by Black88GT (Member # 394) on :
 
I live in Alameda, and no garbage is picked up in Alameda county non Union. [dance]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
This thread is a "EPIC FAIL"
 
Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me. [patriot]

Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.
You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL [patriot]
Savin look what you started! LOL

He cant do anything for you. Nothing at all, becuase youre a union member... Only Obama can help union members. I didnt just talk crap about your union I included you aswell. You and I both know if you were any good at your job there is better pay in non union companies, BUT you cant be a retard, you have to work for yours. Unions are welfare to slow learning employees who wouldnt get promoted without the unions help. So what Im saying is, is I kinda dont want to go back and forth with you, as I view you as a lower individual mentaly wise than myself. Retard. Oh and A also like name calling.
my union is putting me through over 30k worth of schooling that a non-union worker would have to pay out of pocket.....i have more work then i could possibly want,with my dues taken out i make more than ANY non union worker with the same aqmount of time put in as i have. I have one of the best benefit packages you could imagine,and at this point my minimum i am going to make when my apprenticeship is done is 47hr with dues taken out............add that up son idc what they take out as long as im making whats in my contract i dont give a fuk what they do.....edit i know dave50 is gunna respond with a useless post,tough post or a post with information he made up in his head while on his nintendo in lincoln

[ September 28, 2008, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: 5.0-srt-4 ]
 
Posted by BlackDrop50 (Member # 1715) on :
 
Nobama.

Liberals annoy me with their out of touch with reality thinking. McCain may be tough on lower class but I am not that lazy so not too worried. We need someone who is going to stand up for America. Obama is all talk and show. McCain may be rich and born into wealth but at least he has a record of serving his country for almost his whole life. I used to like Obama until I noticed his words were empty and he relies on his popularity, and is a pompous one at that.

[ September 28, 2008, 11:16 PM: Message edited by: BlackDrop50 ]
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
some people believe that the government should take care of them from birth to death. health care. tax the rich and give that money to the poor. for the sake of being FAIR. obama promises to give that.

i dont believe that the government should be involved in things like that. its just that simple.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
some people believe that the government should take care of them from birth to death. health care. tax the rich and give that money to the poor. for the sake of being FAIR. obama promises to give that.

i dont believe that the government should be involved in things like that. its just that simple.

wow, just wow.

I seriously cannot believe some of the things that are being said on this board. Its almost scary that some of you can vote and will. Shallow, hollow, self centered, selfish get enough of you guys in one room or one state and you have a communist party.
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 86- 50:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
quote:
Originally posted by stangin':
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave50:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Black88GT:
[qb]
Savin look what you started! LOL

Dave, how's it going man? don't take these silly posts too seriously like some of these guys. people usually resort to name calling and try to degrade people when they get frustrated b/c no one is listening to them. it's like a little child throwing a fit b/c they can't have any more candy.

btw, both my dad and brother are union members and very proud of it and you should be too. hey, at least we can spell "retarded" correctly [Wink] .

[patriot] Its really sad where this site has gone. This same thing is what happened to wcfords too. Glad you are still hangin in there!
Black88GT,

union is the mob is it not? you pay to work do you not? think bigger unions only walk on the side of the street that helps them selves out, if they didnt they wouldnt make you pay to work.
do you like your mustang, and like to drive it?
Do you like your guns, and like to protect you and yours with them?
do you want your economy to get better?
look at page one 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' 's post a better description of what i would say.

Yea, Thats a good reason to vote for someone right now, Obama is really going to take away our right to have legal guns, and being able to drive our mustangs [BS flag] . If thats why your voting mccain you have a real problem, we have way bigger problems to worry about right now, But i guess those 2 things is more inportant than your house losing half its value in less than 2 years, or living in a country that 8 years ago was a powerhouse, and now there's a handful of country's that could come a fuck us up because were wasting all our resources on the pointless war in iraq.
I'm just going to quote a few other posts for you beacuse it seems you can't read the whole thread.

quote 1. The fact is that we are all here on this board with a love for one thing: cars.... fast cars that are loud, cars we can drive fast and have fun in, cars we modify to be part of a group but be different at the same time, cars that are powered by fuel produced from oil..... oil that the Democratic party only wants to rid the world of because it and cars are a huge problem with the environment. People want to cry about the price of gas but really look into who's cockblocking issues to actually drill for oil and refine it: pussy ass Democratic, liberal environmentalists. Its like a crackhead calling the cops on the dealer then figuring out he can't get his fix..... you want refined oil to run your car but want to rid the country of the people that are 100% behind us using it? Makes sense........ now get busy building your Honda hybrid hot rod. I think I've got one of those old twist grip engine noise makers off my Schwinn you can use so that sweet electric motor doesn't lull you to sleep.

quote 2. Ill never vote democratic EVER! I hate gun grabbers! I need my guns to hunt, protect my family and to defend myself against martial law. I mention martial law because all us free willed "democrats want guns banned wake up and smell the roses"

Answer 1. You and I don't agree on anything!! You just want a black president, (he isn't going to help our economy, Oboma will make it worse) I want the economy to get better. Sorry to say, but war has always made our economy better, check history!!

Answer 2. 86- 50 you're right, those things are important to me. I didn't make any of those bone head decisions to buy a house on a gamble, some you win, some you don't. Seems to me I'm gunna do just fine in my serch for a house now though, guess I'm gunna make out on your misfortunes (sorry bout that). And just to let you know, we're not going to pull out of the war, its too late.
Oboma can't help with the issuse you want him to help with, so do us all a favor and vote for someone that can help with something.

"vote McCain salvage what we have left"
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me. [patriot]

Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.
You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL [patriot]
Savin look what you started! LOL

He cant do anything for you. Nothing at all, becuase youre a union member... Only Obama can help union members. I didnt just talk crap about your union I included you aswell. You and I both know if you were any good at your job there is better pay in non union companies, BUT you cant be a retard, you have to work for yours. Unions are welfare to slow learning employees who wouldnt get promoted without the unions help. So what Im saying is, is I kinda dont want to go back and forth with you, as I view you as a lower individual mentaly wise than myself. Retard. Oh and A also like name calling.
my union is putting me through over 30k worth of schooling that a non-union worker would have to pay out of pocket.....i have more work then i could possibly want,with my dues taken out i make more than ANY non union worker with the same aqmount of time put in as i have. I have one of the best benefit packages you could imagine,and at this point my minimum i am going to make when my apprenticeship is done is 47hr with dues taken out............add that up son idc what they take out as long as im making whats in my contract i dont give a fuk what they do.....edit i know dave50 is gunna respond with a useless post,tough post or a post with information he made up in his head while on his nintendo in lincoln
[Roll Eyes] <------ that means BS You actualy made that shit up! Show me where I made some shit up. I made this shit up aswell http://www.unionfacts.com/states/state.cfm?state=CA

[ September 29, 2008, 01:57 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
Most people who talk shit about unions know nothing about them. Mob driven lol maybe in the 30's..pay to work? It is a complete tax right off you idiot lol. Plus I know of NO other person in my trade making the money and with the benifits I have. black88Gt vote for who ever you want...a Democratic president sold out the U.S.A. with the NAFTA agreement anyhow. Now look at how many jobs are lost....to all the idiots blamming the current economic issues on the war WTF are you talking about? The entire savings and loan industries completeley tried to fuck the American home owners and now they are paying for it( so will the working man)

as far as for anything Dave50 says it is a waste of your time reading it. He is possibly the dumbest person I have ever seen on a forum.

[ September 29, 2008, 02:08 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
LMAO! You ride a V-Max you sorry ass fat poser. Id rather you vote for Obama. You have only been clowned on these forums and the fact is, you never even made 1 single internet buddy here. Leave dum dum. Everyone knows there is more money in non Union jobs if youre not an idiot. Unions advance retards like you on time alone where as you would still be baggin groceries aT youR local market. As far as benefits? You can get medical plans for less than your dues costs. You can set up your own retirement plans, but union members are so sheltered and slow they dont know what retirement funds are and the fact you can invest your own money for the future LOL. Keep paying you dues and playing puppet also dont forget your tithing.
 
Posted by rgtrahn (Member # 7133) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
This thread is a "EPIC FAIL"

+ 1 [Embarrassed]

Talking politics, is like talking religion. No matter what you think or believe you are not going to change another persons opinion. Whatever happened to talking about cars?
Anybody watch football today? Farve had six touchdowns [Eek!] , Raiders and 49ers lost as usual, and the fucking Cowboys lost [BS flag] [Frown]
Who is going to win the World Series this year?

[ September 29, 2008, 03:31 AM: Message edited by: rgtrahn ]
 
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
LMAO! You ride a V-Max you sorry ass fat poser. Id rather you vote for Obama. You have only been clowned on these forums and the fact is, you never even made 1 single internet buddy here. Leave dum dum. Everyone knows there is more money in non Union jobs if youre not an idiot. Unions advance retards like you on time alone where as you would still be baggin groceries aT youR local market. As far as benefits? You can get medical plans for less than your dues costs. You can set up your own retirement plans, but union members are so sheltered and slow they dont know what retirement funds are and the fact you can invest your own money for the future LOL. Keep paying you dues and playing puppet also dont forget your tithing.

Your right, anyone can invest in retirement and health program, but my union makes sure the company matches my retirement 4 percent, and after 15 years at my job i can retire with full free benefits for life.
 
Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :
 
I personally just can't support someone that's only been in the senate for 3 years, and a year of that he's been campaigning. Then, 90% of the things he had to vote on, he only voted PRESENT. Yeah, he's going to change alot. I also can't support that person as president or that person vice president candidate, as neither of them have any experience what-so-ever. Hell, the VP candidate said that he didn't think he was the right choice! Do you really want someone that doesn't want / think he is wrong for the job to be one heart beat away from running our country?

The other president/vice-president candidates, one has 30+ years in the senate, the vp has actually ran a major U.S. economy.

Both parties have their good parts and bad. The REAL question is, who has the resume and who is actually qualified. 3years vs 30 years experience. No experience with running an economy vs actual experience running an economy.

As for replies to Dave50s comment, about how people won't vote because of someones race. You my friends are obviously living in a bubble. There are WAY too many racists (black, white, mexican, asian, etc..) living in the United States. Alot won't vote Obama because he's black. Alot will vote Obama because he's black.

You know, our fore-fathers fought a bloody war with the English because of their oppressive laws and high taxes.

What is our country doing to us now?
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
rgtrahn, This thread isnt about football if you didn't notice the title reads "sexy sarah palin" ,if you have been living under a rock shes running for VP.
Also theres way to many people that want to talk about the subject, your not going to sway there thoughts!!
There are a few football threads on "general talk", im sure you can let your self out.
by by now take your football comments to the right thread!!!!!
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
I think this is the perfect time to ask.

"Who has Bullitts or FR's on their 50's?"

Sorry I have to take a jab at someone on this one. Did I read that someone said "War always makes our economy better, Check history".?! Please PM me your source. Because off-top that makes about much sense as a screen door on a submarine. Please feel free to PM me as I don't want to start a flame session. But I think I need to be educated on this one. Because you imply that the Iraq war is a great thing for our economy. It also implies that the Vietnam war was a great thing for our economy. I listen and take everyone's comments in stride or with a grain of salt. But I just need some clarification on that one. Because that is moving up the charts as one of the dumbest things in history I have heard.

[ September 29, 2008, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
LMAO! You ride a V-Max you sorry ass fat poser. Id rather you vote for Obama. You have only been clowned on these forums and the fact is, you never even made 1 single internet buddy here. Leave dum dum. Everyone knows there is more money in non Union jobs if youre not an idiot. Unions advance retards like you on time alone where as you would still be baggin groceries aT youR local market. As far as benefits? You can get medical plans for less than your dues costs. You can set up your own retirement plans, but union members are so sheltered and slow they dont know what retirement funds are and the fact you can invest your own money for the future LOL. Keep paying you dues and playing puppet also dont forget your tithing.

Yes I ride a Vmax and love it. Everything else you said just re-inforces how stupid you are. [Roll Eyes] You can not possibly be this stupid? Is the a act you are putting on for the internet? btw I did not say who I was voting for. I make up my own mind. Since I am a Union worker and do not have to pay for my own retirement, I also invest in other retirement accounts.

[ September 29, 2008, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
pm sent
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
Just want to stir the pot [Wink]
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/Obama_Wants_NRA_Ads_Banne/2008/09/27/135118.html?s=al&promo_code=6BBA-1

Hopefully we never end up like Britain where hunters can't even own guns anymore.
 
Posted by Chris C. (Member # 1949) on :
 
Everyone saying obama is black, dont know how accurate the article i read was, but I recall it saying that He is actually more Arabic than anything, maybe only around 1/4 african if that and is/was muslim too.

Who wants a Arabic muslim in office? When we are at war with a muslim nation?

Once again, I dont know how accurate that article i read was, but it did get me thinking about that...
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
lol ^^

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas.

The most important thing is that he is American! That is the problem with most of you who are spitting what you read on a headline while waiting in line at the check out. You must have read about his Arabic heritage right under the "Batboy lives" headline in the Enquirer. I know this is the internet and we are discussing. But damn people have some damn common sense about yourselves. Remember it is better to keep ones mouth closed and let the world assume you are a ass. Than to open your mouth and erase all doubts.
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chris C.:
Everyone saying obama is black, dont know how accurate the article i read was, but I recall it saying that He is actually more Arabic than anything, maybe only around 1/4 african if that and is/was muslim too.

Who wants a Arabic muslim in office? When we are at war with a muslim nation?

Once again, I dont know how accurate that article i read was, but it did get me thinking about that...

I bet you would not say that if Our president was white and we were at war with a nation full of caucasians such as Russia now would you?
 
Posted by BCINGUU (Member # 2397) on :
 
I just want to clear up one thing being said here that is a misconception. The housing market and the subprime crisis are not the causes of our current economic problems. We were in a recession long before that, starting in the year 2000. That's when I first got laid off due to economic slowdown, and it wasn't the last time, and things have been up and down ever since. The current recession has been in place for at least 4 years, even if people don't like to call it a recession.

Blame it on the republicans, or blame it on the democrats, but don't blame it all on the housing crisis.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
are you kidding me? /\ it might not be all of it but it is a huge part of the problem...like say 80 to 90 %. why else are the banks folding? hardly anybody can afford to pay those rediculas mortgage payments once the no interest or low interest payment time expired. People just started walking away. No money was comming back to the crooks who lent it. Everything just started to slow down. Throw in high gass prices due to the war and greed and there you have it...
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
interesting video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&eurl=http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=184743
 
Posted by Chris C. (Member # 1949) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
lol ^^

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas.

The most important thing is that he is American! That is the problem with most of you who are spitting what you read on a headline while waiting in line at the check out. You must have read about his Arabic heritage right under the "Batboy lives" headline in the Enquirer. I know this is the internet and we are discussing. But damn people have some damn common sense about yourselves. Remember it is better to keep ones mouth closed and let the world assume you are a ass. Than to open your mouth and erase all doubts.

Now now now, if you read my post, I said I didnt know how creditble the source was.... Do i believe it to be fact NO. Is it true? who knows... Did it get me thinking yes....

To the russian comment.... thats not an accurate comparison and u know that... [Roll Eyes]

Before some of you guys think im a obama hater, think again. I am still somewhat undecided on who i am voting for. [patriot]
 
Posted by SPIDER_STANG (Member # 8658) on :
 
WoW!!! You gotta love AMERICA!! just reading most of the post on here it shows that their are many opinions on the current state of AMERICA & ON the Presidential Nominations!! But I thing I do see is that some guys still have hatred in their hearts for the color of their skin by reading their comments. Vote because you like what they can do for the country not because you like their skin color!! Someone even said Obama isn't even all the way blk!! Who cares I bet he would still get hung in some of those southern little towns that still have a strong KKK group their!! I hope who ever gets elected will help turn us around. But we need to be careful because North Korea is starting up their Nuclear Missile shop again just in time to fuck us all up because we are 80% stuck in Iraq. So thats the most important issue to me right now!! Lets protect are selves & help are fellow Americans out first! [patriot] [patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chris C.:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
lol ^^

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas.

The most important thing is that he is American! That is the problem with most of you who are spitting what you read on a headline while waiting in line at the check out. You must have read about his Arabic heritage right under the "Batboy lives" headline in the Enquirer. I know this is the internet and we are discussing. But damn people have some damn common sense about yourselves. Remember it is better to keep ones mouth closed and let the world assume you are a ass. Than to open your mouth and erase all doubts.

Now now now, if you read my post, I said I didnt know how creditble the source was.... Do i believe it to be fact NO. Is it true? who knows... Did it get me thinking yes....

To the russian comment.... thats not an accurate comparison and u know that... [Roll Eyes]

Before some of you guys think im a obama hater, think again. I am still somewhat undecided on who i am voting for. [patriot]

Could you please explain to me why that is not an accurate comparison? We have gone to war with European nations that are a majority Catholic/Christian and have a mostly Caucasian population, just like the U.S So what would be the difference? Islam is the second biggest religion in the world by the way.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
WoW!!! You gotta love AMERICA!! just reading most of the post on here it shows that their are many opinions on the current state of AMERICA & ON the Presidential Nominations!! But I thing I do see is that some guys still have hatred in their hearts for the color of their skin by reading their comments. Vote because you like what they can do for the country not because you like their skin color!! Someone even said Obama isn't even all the way blk!! Who cares I bet he would still get hung in some of those southern little towns that still have a strong KKK group their!! I hope who ever gets elected will help turn us around. But we need to be careful because North Korea is starting up their Nuclear Missile shop again just in time to fuck us all up because we are 80% stuck in Iraq. So thats the most important issue to me right now!! Lets protect are selves & help are fellow Americans out first! [patriot] [patriot] [patriot]

Good post here. I really don't care the color or gender of the president. And I think beyond how the change they bring will affect me directly. But more along with how it will affect America as a whole. If someone looks to ban guns. My first response is not. "How dare them take away my rights!". My first response is "why is this coming about, why is this a issue, what merit is this based on, what resource is this from...." I ask questions just not hit the ground running with some rhetoric.

ChrisC if I said "Chis now I am not sure how accurate this statement is, but your a fag. And I don't want to work with a fag. But hey I am just saying not sure how accurate my source is. but yea your a fag". Do you not see the contradiction in that? BTW I am not sure of your sexual orientation/preference.

But if you want to harp on color, like I said before. Just harp on the fact that Black Man is this close to being commander in chief and that shows how America has evolved past the archaic was of the Old South, despite some of the lames that still practice racism and sexism. I have said this as well, but it will go far to mend our image abroad and help with foreign affairs, if Obama is elected.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
lol how will electing obama go far in fixing our forgien public image? Do you think all these countries are as racist as the people on this board who keep bringing up his skin color?
 
Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by Black88GT:
If one was neutral right now, what would McCain be saying that would help someone in my position? I consider myself middle class blue collar.
On another note....I'm a Teamster, and Unions push Obama. Why would the Unions be telling us to vote for the wrong guy? The Unions try to help the members and their pocketbooks. not screw them.
I honestly know of 1 person that has said they like McCain, and he isn't even the type to sit down and watch the debate LOL.
So McCain fans tell me what he can do for me. [patriot]

Silly guy, when was the last time your union gave money back? NEVER YOU FOOL! Do you know the history of unions? The origional unions pushed for higher pay to only get more money in their pockets. What exactly has your union done for you in the last year? Im guessing your "dues" are roughly $1000 a year? Now,... you answere me this? If you went into private work could you make more? I know people with half the time of union members making more than union members? Why? Because they are smarter and excelled at the job. Unions are wellfare for low learning americans. How do you define unions? I think its survival of the fittest? But then again I dont expect free shit! I will go ahead and work for mine! Now if you are a lesser american unions are for you! There isnt any smartness, production, creativity involved its all about time such as being an american in the sense,? youre entitled to foodstamps just show up and you get them. Its the same with unions, show up for work ontime, be a sub par retarted worker and get paid, but remember the union makes money off all members, retarted or not, so why not have a retard such as yourself donate money.
You know what man you are really a fucking idiot. I asked a question without anything threatening whatsoever.. You call me a fool and a retard just to get you point across... Talk what ever shit you want to about the Teamsters, but my health care is second to none, my family is well supported, and I can retire at 50. So, as I asked previously....Why don't you tell me what McCain is going to do for me, instead of talking all that crap about my Union. You did kind of sound like Palin not being able to answer the question correctly..... Or were you planning on getting back to me LOL [patriot]
Savin look what you started! LOL

He cant do anything for you. Nothing at all, becuase youre a union member... Only Obama can help union members. I didnt just talk crap about your union I included you aswell. You and I both know if you were any good at your job there is better pay in non union companies, BUT you cant be a retard, you have to work for yours. Unions are welfare to slow learning employees who wouldnt get promoted without the unions help. So what Im saying is, is I kinda dont want to go back and forth with you, as I view you as a lower individual mentaly wise than myself. Retard. Oh and A also like name calling.
my union is putting me through over 30k worth of schooling that a non-union worker would have to pay out of pocket.....i have more work then i could possibly want,with my dues taken out i make more than ANY non union worker with the same aqmount of time put in as i have. I have one of the best benefit packages you could imagine,and at this point my minimum i am going to make when my apprenticeship is done is 47hr with dues taken out............add that up son idc what they take out as long as im making whats in my contract i dont give a fuk what they do.....edit i know dave50 is gunna respond with a useless post,tough post or a post with information he made up in his head while on his nintendo in lincoln
[Roll Eyes] <------ that means BS You actualy made that shit up! Show me where I made some shit up. I made this shit up aswell http://www.unionfacts.com/states/state.cfm?state=CA
my fact is my house ia being paid for...as well as my car...ect....and im about to drive to my made up union class...for my made up free schooling have fun son scabbing around making 12hr/.....wanna see my pay stub drive down here lol
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
5.0-srt-4, its all good that you and dave50 are battling about wits, just dont use the derogatory comments like "scab", other people do construction on this forum to. Just so people know, a union worker calling a non union worker is the same as if he said the N word to a black person, or the s word to a mexican person!!!!!!!
SO WATCH YOUR MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!! [Mad]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
lol how will electing obama go far in fixing our forgien public image? Do you think all these countries are as racist as the people on this board who keep bringing up his skin color?

It was a very generalized statement. I am not sure if you have traveled abroad. But I played overseas basketball and traveled abroad and I can tell you that, the image of the "white man" and his democracy is very skewed abroad. There was a few areas I played in that people were still thinking I could not drink from the same faucet..lol. But my hypothesis and idea is based on my interactions. Basically when they see a person of ethnic background as commander in chief, it could very well change those views. Making America that land where if you dream it, it can happen. Making America seem more grown up so to speak. Just think 400 years ago give or take, we couldn't drink out of the same faucet as white folks. And to go from that to a Black man in the highest office. Can do nothing but change the views of America.

[ September 29, 2008, 08:51 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
I rather have a president that can actually say "TERRORIST" properly. The idiot Bush says it "TERRISTS"..


F*K Bush once again, kick his ass to the curb and send his ass to Iraq!

OBAMA ALL THE WAY!

McCain?! That fool did not even look into Obama's eyes not even ONCE at the DEBATE. How the hell is that child going to run the country?!

Go Obama [patriot]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
WoW!!! You gotta love AMERICA!! just reading most of the post on here it shows that their are many opinions on the current state of AMERICA & ON the Presidential Nominations!! But I thing I do see is that some guys still have hatred in their hearts for the color of their skin by reading their comments. Vote because you like what they can do for the country not because you like their skin color!! Someone even said Obama isn't even all the way blk!! Who cares I bet he would still get hung in some of those southern little towns that still have a strong KKK group their!! I hope who ever gets elected will help turn us around. But we need to be careful because North Korea is starting up their Nuclear Missile shop again just in time to fuck us all up because we are 80% stuck in Iraq. So thats the most important issue to me right now!! Lets protect are selves & help are fellow Americans out first! [patriot] [patriot] [patriot]

Good post here. I really don't care the color or gender of the president. And I think beyond how the change they bring will affect me directly. But more along with how it will affect America as a whole. If someone looks to ban guns. My first response is not. "How dare them take away my rights!". My first response is "why is this coming about, why is this a issue, what merit is this based on, what resource is this from...." I ask questions just not hit the ground running with some rhetoric.

ChrisC if I said "Chis now I am not sure how accurate this statement is, but your a fag. And I don't want to work with a fag. But hey I am just saying not sure how accurate my source is. but yea your a fag". Do you not see the contradiction in that? BTW I am not sure of your sexual orientation/preference.

But if you want to harp on color, like I said before. Just harp on the fact that Black Man is this close to being commander in chief and that shows how America has evolved past the archaic was of the Old South, despite some of the lames that still practice racism and sexism. I have said this as well, but it will go far to mend our image abroad and help with foreign affairs, if Obama is elected.

So what's the reason that the Dems want to take the second amendment away from us, cuz I can't see any reason "FREE COUNTRY/FREE RIGHTS" doesn't that mean anything to you???????
And need a change????? Condoleezza Rice has been secretary of state since January 28, 2005. I have never heard of any one jumping up and down with joy or even seen any changes in anything. She's black. Electing Oboma wouldn't change shit and America evolves every day. What are you talking about evolve? This is 2008, last time you saw segregation was in the 60's. The issue isn't white people not voting for a black man, it's black people voting for a black man. It's all the talk every where, plus I know more white people voting for Oboma than I do black people (due to the union). That's the other thing, people from the union are going to vote Oboma just because the union says to (weak minded people). You're more racist and ignorant than anyone I know if you think black is going to change something. It's the person, not the color. Someone should burn Oboma's slogan to show him it don't mean shit,cuz we're American here, not color coordinated!!!!!! [patriot]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
I rather have a president that can actually say "TERRORIST" properly. The idiot Bush says it "TERRISTS"..


F*K Bush once again, kick his ass to the curb and send his ass to Iraq!

OBAMA ALL THE WAY!

McCain?! That fool did not even look into Obama's eyes not even ONCE at the DEBATE. How the hell is that child going to run the country?!

Go Obama [patriot]

I say "tamato" does that mean i shouldnt run for prez, that was singley the dummest comment in this thread!!!!
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

[ September 29, 2008, 09:24 PM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
WoW!!! You gotta love AMERICA!! just reading most of the post on here it shows that their are many opinions on the current state of AMERICA & ON the Presidential Nominations!! But I thing I do see is that some guys still have hatred in their hearts for the color of their skin by reading their comments. Vote because you like what they can do for the country not because you like their skin color!! Someone even said Obama isn't even all the way blk!! Who cares I bet he would still get hung in some of those southern little towns that still have a strong KKK group their!! I hope who ever gets elected will help turn us around. But we need to be careful because North Korea is starting up their Nuclear Missile shop again just in time to fuck us all up because we are 80% stuck in Iraq. So thats the most important issue to me right now!! Lets protect are selves & help are fellow Americans out first! [patriot] [patriot] [patriot]

Good post here. I really don't care the color or gender of the president. And I think beyond how the change they bring will affect me directly. But more along with how it will affect America as a whole. If someone looks to ban guns. My first response is not. "How dare them take away my rights!". My first response is "why is this coming about, why is this a issue, what merit is this based on, what resource is this from...." I ask questions just not hit the ground running with some rhetoric.

ChrisC if I said "Chis now I am not sure how accurate this statement is, but your a fag. And I don't want to work with a fag. But hey I am just saying not sure how accurate my source is. but yea your a fag". Do you not see the contradiction in that? BTW I am not sure of your sexual orientation/preference.

But if you want to harp on color, like I said before. Just harp on the fact that Black Man is this close to being commander in chief and that shows how America has evolved past the archaic was of the Old South, despite some of the lames that still practice racism and sexism. I have said this as well, but it will go far to mend our image abroad and help with foreign affairs, if Obama is elected.

So what's the reason that the Dems want to take the second amendment away from us, cuz I can't see any reason "FREE COUNTRY/FREE RIGHTS" doesn't that mean anything to you???????
And need a change????? Condoleezza Rice has been secretary of state since January 28, 2005. I have never heard of any one jumping up and down with joy or even seen any changes in anything. She's black. Electing Oboma wouldn't change shit and America evolves every day. What are you talking about evolve? This is 2008, last time you saw segregation was in the 60's. The issue isn't white people not voting for a black man, it's black people voting for a black man. It's all the talk every where, plus I know more white people voting for Oboma than I do black people (due to the union). That's the other thing, people from the union are going to vote Oboma just because the union says to (weak minded people). You're more racist and ignorant than anyone I know if you think black is going to change something. It's the person, not the color. Someone should burn Oboma's slogan to show him it don't mean shit,cuz we're American here, not color coordinated!!!!!! [patriot]

You must have never left Sacramento, so I am not going to even oblige your statements about racism and its place in what era. But I will tell you this. Condoleeza's position and President Bush's position is 2 vastly different worlds. So you cannot compare those even a little bit.

And like I said this is not about race, but you cannot help but recognize it's monumental appearance. So it's like a catch 22. I am voting for him because I like his stance on things I believe will America. But for the simple fact that it is such a hot bed for comments from people other than Black's makes me relish this historic moment ever so much more.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!
 
Posted by SEMPERFI510 (Member # 627) on :
 
So is he Muslim or Christian?
[Confused] [Razz]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

[ September 29, 2008, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: SEMPERFI510 ]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
Monumental was Condolizza, no matter what you think. But just to show it wasn't as big of a deal as everyone made it out to be, a black prez was and is inevitable. So not very monumental in that text, is it? Monumental would have been a slave turned prez. Monumental is something so unheard of it's crazy, the inevitable doesn't make history. Rise obove color N8, it's devouring you as a man.
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

So ignorant so sad
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
Monumental was Condolizza, no matter what you think. But just to show it wasn't as big of a deal as everyone made it out to be, a black prez was and is inevitable. So not very monumental in that text, is it? Monumental would have been a slave turned prez. Monumental is something so unheard of it's crazy, the inevitable doesn't make history. Rise obove color N8, it's devouring you as a man.

So ignorant so sad
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SEMPERFI510:
So is he Muslim or Christian?
[Confused] [Razz]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

LMAO! Obama is such a tool! Here is a patriotic U.S. Citizen! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o Any person voting for him should be proud! Proud Americans should all vote for him, he doesnt even respect our flag. Sounds like you Obama supporters are proud Americans aswell. Who wants to get together and burn some flags? Id never want a man in office who doesnt solute AMERICAS flag, and some of you want him in office. Yeah, sounds like it will be history in the making alright. A muslim, American flag hater in office! That will be real good for us.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

[ September 30, 2008, 12:05 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
u all can flame me for this, but ive kept quiet til now cuz 1) i hate politics and 2 i see we're fucked either way.
My personal opinion chooses no side. I try and pick the lesser of 2 evils. Some may like that statement, some may fully disagree. Thats your call i could care less.
Either choice will have some sort of negative result, there will be someone elected who despite promises will fuck up or impact us in SOME negative way to our disliking. Just depends on how, when etc etc. Me personally try to read about both and do like i said, pick the lesser of 2 evils. [patriot]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

[ September 30, 2008, 01:21 AM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09

People like YOU are the ones who fuck this country. And I would sure hope people wouldnt vote for a president that doesnt solute the flag that he is sworn to, supposed to have good intentions of. Think about it... If youre voting only because you want the war stopped then more power to you but Obama Is a lying, Muslim, U.S. Citizen hater. Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back. If you are not proud to be an american and that included our flag, get the FUCK OUT OF HERE!

[ September 30, 2008, 02:03 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09

People like YOU are the ones who fuck this country. And I would sure hope people wouldnt vote for a president that doesnt solute the flag that he is sworn to, supposed to have good intentions of. Think about it... If youre voting only because you want the war stopped then more power to you but Obama Is a lying, Muslim, U.S. Citizen hater. Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back.
Lying Muslim, U.S Citizen hater? LOL! Is that why millions of REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS are cheering for him?

It's cool, your opinion is yours, mine is mine.

I still do believe if he becomes president, it may not last long, the racist bastards will TRY to kill him.


Obama 09 - "Yes We Can"

[ September 30, 2008, 02:06 AM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
[/qb][/QUOTE]News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09 [/QB][/QUOTE]

Almost running huh?? Why are you still talking about Bush did you think hes running again or sumthing??
Just thinking about most of your posts how do you know where Al Quieda is??????

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TERRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I SUSPECT YOU WERE A BUSH SUPORTER BEFOR HUH????? [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09

People like YOU are the ones who fuck this country. And I would sure hope people wouldnt vote for a president that doesnt solute the flag that he is sworn to, supposed to have good intentions of. Think about it... If youre voting only because you want the war stopped then more power to you but Obama Is a lying, Muslim, U.S. Citizen hater. Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back.
Lying Muslim, U.S Citizen hater? LOL! Is that why millions of REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS are cheering for him?

It's cool, your opinion is yours, mine is mine.

I still do believe if he becomes president, it may not last long, the racist bastards will TRY to kill him.


Obama 09 - "Yes We Can"

There we go, I see the real reason youre voting for him... Youre black, Ill bet $250 on it. I guess "racism" goes both ways.

[ September 30, 2008, 02:09 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
I SECOND THAT. ive been saying that since this thread started [Whoo Whooooo!]

[ September 30, 2008, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09

People like YOU are the ones who fuck this country. And I would sure hope people wouldnt vote for a president that doesnt solute the flag that he is sworn to, supposed to have good intentions of. Think about it... If youre voting only because you want the war stopped then more power to you but Obama Is a lying, Muslim, U.S. Citizen hater. Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back.
Lying Muslim, U.S Citizen hater? LOL! Is that why millions of REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS are cheering for him?

It's cool, your opinion is yours, mine is mine.

I still do believe if he becomes president, it may not last long, the racist bastards will TRY to kill him.


Obama 09 - "Yes We Can"

There we go, I see the real reason youre voting for him... Youre black, Ill bet $250 on it. I guess "racism" goes both ways.
Why do you keep throwing BLACK and MUSLIMS on almost every post?

But you say im black? Your ignorance spoke again.

$250? Sorry im not black.

You can PayPal that $250 to me.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:

News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09 [/QB][/QUOTE]

Almost running huh?? Why are you still talking about Bush did you think hes running again or sumthing??
Just thinking about most of your posts how do you know where Al Quieda is??????

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TERRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I SUSPECT YOU WERE A BUSH SUPORTER BEFOR HUH????? [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [/QB][/QUOTE]


Once again, OBAMA 09 !!

[ September 30, 2008, 02:25 AM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09

People like YOU are the ones who fuck this country. And I would sure hope people wouldnt vote for a president that doesnt solute the flag that he is sworn to, supposed to have good intentions of. Think about it... If youre voting only because you want the war stopped then more power to you but Obama Is a lying, Muslim, U.S. Citizen hater. Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back.
Lying Muslim, U.S Citizen hater? LOL! Is that why millions of REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS are cheering for him?

It's cool, your opinion is yours, mine is mine.

I still do believe if he becomes president, it may not last long, the racist bastards will TRY to kill him.


Obama 09 - "Yes We Can"

There we go, I see the real reason youre voting for him... Youre black, Ill bet $250 on it. I guess "racism" goes both ways.
Why do you keep throwing BLACK and MUSLIMS on almost every post?

But you say im black? Your ignorance spoke again.

$250? Sorry im not black.

You can PayPal that $250 to me.

The racists bastard part and the "yes we can" kind of, gave it away. I call him a muslim because he is and lies and says hes christain. You would have to quote all my "black" responses because Im getting the idea using the word black is a bad thing from you? Black isnt a bad word, Obama is black youre black. Im not black, black, black, black. Obama is muslim and youre black.<----- nothing racist there?
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
ok, i guess this thread is getting a little out of hand. we don't all have to agree on every issue at hand here, but please take the personal attacks elsewhere. talk and discuss politics, debate and battle it out. keep it civil act like real adults.

let's continue...
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09

People like YOU are the ones who fuck this country. And I would sure hope people wouldnt vote for a president that doesnt solute the flag that he is sworn to, supposed to have good intentions of. Think about it... If youre voting only because you want the war stopped then more power to you but Obama Is a lying, Muslim, U.S. Citizen hater. Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back.
Lying Muslim, U.S Citizen hater? LOL! Is that why millions of REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS are cheering for him?

It's cool, your opinion is yours, mine is mine.

I still do believe if he becomes president, it may not last long, the racist bastards will TRY to kill him.


Obama 09 - "Yes We Can"

There we go, I see the real reason youre voting for him... Youre black, Ill bet $250 on it. I guess "racism" goes both ways.
Why do you keep throwing BLACK and MUSLIMS on almost every post?

But you say im black? Your ignorance spoke again.

$250? Sorry im not black.

You can PayPal that $250 to me.

The racists bastard part and the "yes we can" kind of, gave it away. I call him a muslim because he is and lies and says hes christain. You would have to quote all my "black" responses because Im getting the idea using the word black is a bad thing from you? Black isnt a bad word, Obama is black youre black. Im not black, black, black, black. Obama is muslim and youre black.<----- nothing racist there?
Again, your ignorance is taking over with you assuming black is a bad word from me, assuming im black...

I can see why you are going for McLame which is asumptions based off ignorance THINKING you're going to change something...

Im done, and that $250 is still pending..

Paypal or PM.

OBAMA 09
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by fr5.0:
Monumental was Condolizza, no matter what you think. But just to show it wasn't as big of a deal as everyone made it out to be, a black prez was and is inevitable. So not very monumental in that text, is it? Monumental would have been a slave turned prez. Monumental is something so unheard of it's crazy, the inevitable doesn't make history. Rise obove color N8, it's devouring you as a man.

So ignorant so sad
N8, Im sorry to say that your posts reek of ignorance. if Oboma made a speach tomarrow to revers the thirteenth amendment, would you politly ask why he would do that?
Hell no you wouldnt because you feel strong about it right?
If Oboma takes our gun rights you're to blaim when he takes more, what is your freedom worth??
Not much in his eyes. Its ok when your not the one losing right?
He will take from me and others, when its your turn should we feel sorry for you when you make a thread about how Oboma is fucking you.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09

People like YOU are the ones who fuck this country. And I would sure hope people wouldnt vote for a president that doesnt solute the flag that he is sworn to, supposed to have good intentions of. Think about it... If youre voting only because you want the war stopped then more power to you but Obama Is a lying, Muslim, U.S. Citizen hater. Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back.
Lying Muslim, U.S Citizen hater? LOL! Is that why millions of REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS are cheering for him?

It's cool, your opinion is yours, mine is mine.

I still do believe if he becomes president, it may not last long, the racist bastards will TRY to kill him.


Obama 09 - "Yes We Can"

There we go, I see the real reason youre voting for him... Youre black, Ill bet $250 on it. I guess "racism" goes both ways.
Why do you keep throwing BLACK and MUSLIMS on almost every post?

But you say im black? Your ignorance spoke again.

$250? Sorry im not black.

You can PayPal that $250 to me.

The racists bastard part and the "yes we can" kind of, gave it away. I call him a muslim because he is and lies and says hes christain. You would have to quote all my "black" responses because Im getting the idea using the word black is a bad thing from you? Black isnt a bad word, Obama is black youre black. Im not black, black, black, black. Obama is muslim and youre black.<----- nothing racist there?
Again, your ignorance is taking over with you assuming black is a bad word from me, assuming im black...

I can see why you are going for McLame which is asumptions based off ignorance THINKING you're going to change something...

Im done, and that $250 is still pending..

Paypal or PM.

OBAMA 09

I know youre black retard, youve posted it before, when you were talking about law enforcement as a career. You can send me the $250 you lying racist piece of trash. You lie like Obama. You gave no reasons of why to vote for him after disrespecting our country and citizens. Im going for Mccain for 2 reasons He's republican and he respects America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
dp

[ September 30, 2008, 03:36 AM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by Dave50:
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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by fr5.0:
I think you ment to say adults dont usualy look children(Oboma) in the eye, because McCain is like 70ish. To get on the speach part Obomas wife speaks better than he does, she shoulda ran huh? hahahaha

Damm it must suck to be you to be raised in an enviroment where your daddy/mommy never looked you in the eyes.

Where im from, part of respect is earned when you maintain eye contact.

OBAMA 09!

Youre right buddy, Mccain doesnt respect the Muslim, flag burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSj4f9sbe0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8
He is a liar.

I'll wear the pin for him, make you all happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFCoR7jus5c&feature=related

Watch that ^ - Damm theres kids standing behind McLame, you notice the kids getting all excited. LOL!


Barack Hussein Obama 2009!

Thats down right pathetic! You are not an American, youre a scumbag. How could you support complete disreguard for the country that provides for you. Youre garabage.
News Flash Dumbass, theres a reason why Mr Obama is ALMOST running for president, just a few more months to go, theres a reason why he made it this far.

You think all those little youtube videos of him not wearing a pin or saluting the flag will make a difference? NO, our country is FUCKED. All those BULLSHIT speeches Mr' Bullshittin Bush gave about "Al Quieda", "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" "Osama" went no where.. Those were ALL WORDS trying to impress the idiots who fell for it. Wheres Al Quida now? 10X STRONGER THEN 2001 then ever, they are residing happily ever after in AFGHANISTAN, living in peace and multiplying! Wheres Osama?

With our new president, nothing may change but at least there will be hope.


Millions are going to vote for him over McLame. "VOTE FOR OBAMA", write that down on a piece of paper and go read it over and over.

OBAMA 09

People like YOU are the ones who fuck this country. And I would sure hope people wouldnt vote for a president that doesnt solute the flag that he is sworn to, supposed to have good intentions of. Think about it... If youre voting only because you want the war stopped then more power to you but Obama Is a lying, Muslim, U.S. Citizen hater. Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back.
Lying Muslim, U.S Citizen hater? LOL! Is that why millions of REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS are cheering for him?

It's cool, your opinion is yours, mine is mine.

I still do believe if he becomes president, it may not last long, the racist bastards will TRY to kill him.


Obama 09 - "Yes We Can"

There we go, I see the real reason youre voting for him... Youre black, Ill bet $250 on it. I guess "racism" goes both ways.
Why do you keep throwing BLACK and MUSLIMS on almost every post?

But you say im black? Your ignorance spoke again.

$250? Sorry im not black.

You can PayPal that $250 to me.

The racists bastard part and the "yes we can" kind of, gave it away. I call him a muslim because he is and lies and says hes christain. You would have to quote all my "black" responses because Im getting the idea using the word black is a bad thing from you? Black isnt a bad word, Obama is black youre black. Im not black, black, black, black. Obama is muslim and youre black.<----- nothing racist there?
Again, your ignorance is taking over with you assuming black is a bad word from me, assuming im black...

I can see why you are going for McLame which is asumptions based off ignorance THINKING you're going to change something...

Im done, and that $250 is still pending..

Paypal or PM.

OBAMA 09

I know youre black retard, youve posted it before, when you were talking about law enforcement as a career. You can send me the $250 you lying racist piece of trash. You lie like Obama. You gave no reasons of why to vote for him after disrespecting our country and citizens. Im going for Mccain for 2 reasons He's republican and he respects America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
What a fuckin idiot, i lie like Obama? Hey dumbass Dave, didnt you learn to read posts properly? I just STATED CLEARLY that im not black. Your lowlife assuming ass is STILL saying im BLACK? WTF is wrong with you?

Law enforcement as a career? WTF? Are you assuming again? I think its past your bedtime, maybe you need to hopp on McLames 70yr old nutts to refresh your memory a lil bit.

Only chair McLame belongs is a wheel chair, and you belong between his legs just like how Monica Lewinsky was when Billy ran country.


Oh don't worry dumbass dave, ill vote for Obama, nothing you're ignorant ass is going to do to. Youll sit there and continue posting about how Obama is a lier and this and that and get your panty wet over it. You wont make no difference.

I will remember that $250 Mr "Your black!!".. LOL!
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
lol ^^

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas.

The most important thing is that he is American! That is the problem with most of you who are spitting what you read on a headline while waiting in line at the check out. You must have read about his Arabic heritage right under the "Batboy lives" headline in the Enquirer. I know this is the internet and we are discussing. But damn people have some damn common sense about yourselves. Remember it is better to keep ones mouth closed and let the world assume you are a ass. Than to open your mouth and erase all doubts.

Americans, solute our flag, they wear american flag pins they support our country by respection our flag. He is not and an american in my book and far from a Citizen, please completly define the Word Citizen and American theres more to it than being born here. Yes, you can get our welfare being a citizen but please read the definitions of both. I think Im kinda understanding why there is so much arguing about this election? I think fools who just noticed we have elections are just starting to pay attention? What does the word "change" mean? Change is a new president in my eyes and we have had a option for change every 4 years. Yes, every 4 years we have an option of change and every 8 years change is mandatory, after 8 years a presidents term can not be extended. So the only correlation between Obomya and "change" is his skin color. CHANGE is mandatory in this election. I know a lot of you racist who see Mccain and call him bush see white and black for the simple reason you never identify the groups as democrat or republican. Now for my silent fans who wish they werent to pussy to say what I say, Im thinking of creating a cult, Im not sure what cult to push as I like many wifes, drugs and guns, when I figure it out Ill let ya know. Nothing crazy, Im thinking of being a christain "prophet" as I know morman "prophets" do well in the female area and pocket book, And christains could easily be tapped in my area. P.S. Fuck the non american, lying piece of shit Obomya. Can I call him Obomya-meaning terrorist? Or is terrorist a bad word yet? Wait, its not bad yet... hes not in office. Once hes in office it will be a bad words as they are "civil fighters" you morons open your eyes.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
lol ^^

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas.

The most important thing is that he is American! That is the problem with most of you who are spitting what you read on a headline while waiting in line at the check out. You must have read about his Arabic heritage right under the "Batboy lives" headline in the Enquirer. I know this is the internet and we are discussing. But damn people have some damn common sense about yourselves. Remember it is better to keep ones mouth closed and let the world assume you are a ass. Than to open your mouth and erase all doubts.

Americans, solute our flag, they wear american flag pins they support our country by respection our flag. He is not and an american in my book and far from a Citizen, please completly define the Word Citizen and American theres more to it than being born here. Yes, you can get our welfare being a citizen but please read the definitions of both. I think Im kinda understanding why there is so much arguing about this election? I think fools who just noticed we have elections are just starting to pay attention? What does the word "change" mean? Change is a new president in my eyes and we have had a option for change every 4 years. Yes, every 4 years we have an option of change and every 8 years change is mandatory, after 8 years a presidents term can not be extended. So the only correlation between Obomya and "change" is his skin color. CHANGE is mandatory in this election. I know a lot of you racist who see Mccain and call him bush see white and black for the simple reason you never identify the groups as democrat or republican. Now for my silent fans who wish they werent to pussy to say what I say, Im thinking of creating a cult, Im not sure what cult to push as I like many wifes, drugs and guns, when I figure it out Ill let ya know. Nothing crazy, Im thinking of being a christain "prophet" as I know morman "prophets" do well in the female area and pocket book, And christains could easily be tapped in my area. P.S. Fuck the non american, lying piece of shit Obomya. Can I call him Obomya-meaning terrorist? Or is terrorist a bad word yet? Wait, its not bad yet... hes not in office<---- the muslim that is. Once hes in office it will be a bad word as they are "civil fighters".
P.S. for you grammar cops Im pretty hard into the bottle as usual at this time, proof reading for typo's is a bitch so use your imagination. MCcain 09 WEEEEEEEE CANNNNN STOPPPPPPP THISSSSS!
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Hey DumbassDave50,

You said earlier
quote:
support our country by respection our flag.
check out this video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWY-MapKy3U

Orr maii gorrdd!! He disrespected our American Flag.. He is not a real citizen!! blah blah blah Orr maiii gorrdd.. blah blah blah

Still an American Flag right..

Get the f*k outta here with your assumptions and "disrespect".

And please, provide me with details of such quotes or links to threads where ive stated im BLACK?

And let me know when and how you would like to proceed with the $250 payment...

Obama 09 kid!

"Your black!" LMAO!

[ September 30, 2008, 04:07 AM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
lol how will electing obama go far in fixing our forgien public image? Do you think all these countries are as racist as the people on this board who keep bringing up his skin color?

It was a very generalized statement. I am not sure if you have traveled abroad. But I played overseas basketball and traveled abroad and I can tell you that, the image of the "white man" and his democracy is very skewed abroad. There was a few areas I played in that people were still thinking I could not drink from the same faucet..lol. But my hypothesis and idea is based on my interactions. Basically when they see a person of ethnic background as commander in chief, it could very well change those views. Making America that land where if you dream it, it can happen. Making America seem more grown up so to speak. Just think 400 years ago give or take, we couldn't drink out of the same faucet as white folks. And to go from that to a Black man in the highest office. Can do nothing but change the views of America.
LMAO! Your own blindness is hendering you. You respected a country who's people didnt realize WHITE CRACKERS lost their lives freeing the SOUTH from slavery? Didnt you let them know the crackers fought to end slavery? Can anyone who is not white tell me how many white people died during this war? You respected views of people who didnt know slavery ended longer ago then youve been alive? Or maybe you thought slavery only existed in America? I bet thats it, I think you think African slave traders only sold to America? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline
Now your normal response when I bust your ass is to say Im clueless, you feel sorry for me, Im retarded but you never include facts... I love this site! http://www.newsmax.com/politics/Obama_Wants_NRA_Ads_Banne/2008/09/27/135118.html?s=al&promo_code=6BBA-1 Thanks Dana!

[ September 30, 2008, 04:05 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by lambonotch (Member # 5758) on :
 
good god dave this shit is an all out debate. tho i didnt read the all 6 pages i kinda get the idea that its n8 and dave vs. fr5.0 and al stock?
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
al stock is not black he is middle eastern.
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
no N8 is a fucking moron that thinks conservative values are a part of socialism. after this idiot stated that he lost all credibility in this debate.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
al stock is not black he is middle eastern.

Thanks,

Im Fijian/Indian/Muslim yet an American Citizen who was Naturalized back in 2003.
 
Posted by lambonotch (Member # 5758) on :
 
after skimming all the pages only 1 thing is clear one, maybe two of you have a sore pussy. other than that an interesting debate. [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Hey DumbassDave50,

You said earlier
quote:
support our country by respection our flag.
check out this video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWY-MapKy3U

Orr maii gorrdd!! He disrespected our American Flag.. He is not a real citizen!! blah blah blah Orr maiii gorrdd.. blah blah blah

Still an American Flag right..

Get the f*k outta here with your assumptions and "disrespect".

And please, provide me with details of such quotes or links to threads where ive stated im BLACK?

And let me know when and how you would like to proceed with the $250 payment...

Obama 09 kid!

"Your black!" LMAO!

Good, good, now you produced something that has nothing to do with our current election... Bush isnt running you fucktard. Im not gonna attack you with retardation. What I see is a man who has to many thoughts on his mind than a game. He has a recession in forcast and a war that is declining in political view and yet he is still attending an Olympic game, I will solute him, you wont because youre not an american He has a flag in his hand but yet you praise Obama for not soluting?. I see a man smacking a U.S. flag on his leg to remind him of whats most imortant, THE FLAG- And its citizens not a game. I see a stressed out man who needs to smoke one or drink some-with me. If there is any change, expect it to be for the americans. The soviet union fell not to long ago, were on our way. Americans will fall, you can see it in support of a man who doesnt support our flag. We need more imigration... that will help the U.S. More born and raised non Americans voting for non American presidents.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
after skimming all the pages only 1 thing is clear one, maybe two of you have a sore pussy. other than that an interesting debate. [Whoo Whooooo!]

Only thing that's sore is Dave50's mouth after he pays McLame a visit every night right before his bedtime.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
after skimming all the pages only 1 thing is clear one, maybe two of you have a sore pussy. other than that an interesting debate. [Whoo Whooooo!]

Only thing that's sore is Dave50's mouth after he pays McLame a visit every night right before his bedtime.
But yet, after all thats been said you havent given any reason to vote for Obama. He wont solute "OUR" flag wear an american flag pin and you support him? Hes non american you retard, You call it "change" in what fashion does Obama offer change over Mccain as Mccain is who he is running against not bush. The only change I see is skin since every election I vote rep. And this election is normal Dem. against rep. and dems have been presidents but yet the word "change" has been added. When you reference "change" what change are you speaking of? The only change I see is skin color, which is not important to me. But you being black, you gotta ignore all the facts and vote for skin, I understand that, its called being racist. Its OK to be black and racist, so its cool.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Hey DumbassDave50,

You said earlier
quote:
support our country by respection our flag.
check out this video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWY-MapKy3U

Orr maii gorrdd!! He disrespected our American Flag.. He is not a real citizen!! blah blah blah Orr maiii gorrdd.. blah blah blah

Still an American Flag right..

Get the f*k outta here with your assumptions and "disrespect".

And please, provide me with details of such quotes or links to threads where ive stated im BLACK?

And let me know when and how you would like to proceed with the $250 payment...

Obama 09 kid!

"Your black!" LMAO!

Good, good, now you produced something that has nothing to do with our current election... Bush isnt running you fucktard. Im not gonna attack you with retardation. What I see is a man who has to many thoughts on his mind than a game. He has a recession in forcast and a war that is declining in political view and yet he is still attending an Olympic game, I will solute him, you wont because youre not an american He has a flag in his hand but yet you praise Obama for not soluting?. I see a man smacking a U.S. flag on his leg to remind him of whats most imortant, THE FLAG- And its citizens not a game. I see a stressed out man who needs to smoke one or drink some-with me. If there is any change, expect it to be for the americans. The soviet union fell not to long ago, were on our way. Americans will fall, you can see it in support of a man who doesnt support our flag. We need more imigration... that will help the U.S. More born and raised non Americans voting for non American presidents.
DumbassDave50,

Listen kid, you seem to jump back and forth with your debate.

Now you're saying "you posted something that has nothing to do with our debate"..

When you originally posted this Why do I call him a U.S. Citizen hater? Because the flag represents all of us including you. So I guess he doent respect you, but your dumb ass will vote for him. Good job dude, pat youreself on your back. If you are not proud to be an american and that included our flag, get the FUCK OUT OF HERE!

^ That in GENERAL you were saying im voting for someone who disrespected our flag, you said Obama is a citizen hater because he disrespected the flag. COme on now kid, you're ok with the video right? LOL! And when Obama is in the video not wearing a pin and he isnt even the president, all hell breaks lose? LOL! When we have our own LEADER disrespecting our flag, shows no respect to our flag, a person who is already running for president, that doesnt bother you so what would? Obama bothers you though? LOL!


And your only response to that video i posted is "tired president", wow, you failed. You are obviously ok with our current presidency so you wouldnt mind having another tired old president doing the same shit bullshittin bush is doing now?

Again no proof of me being black, or me being black talking about being in law enforcement, no proof of fthat $250..

DAMM!


Sorry, your ignorant, you have no life, you like to point fingers, blame people, call names without any facts.

Get the fuck outta here with your bullshit debate,

im done with dumbassdave50.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
al stock is not black he is middle eastern.

Thanks,

Im Fijian/Indian/Muslim yet an American Citizen who was Naturalized back in 2003.

wow a citizen for 5 years now you are a expert lol....you are blowing the Obama horn pretty hard your self.

In the end not a whole lot is going to change. Even the winner might only carry what 52% of the vote? So almost half the people will be happy the other will be pissed off and blame the pres for everything. Still go vote that way you will have the right to bitch. Until congress gets in touch with the real issues in the country it will just contunue to roll on the way it has been.......If you ever want to see this country in uproar try to take everybodies guns...then it will get intersting.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
after skimming all the pages only 1 thing is clear one, maybe two of you have a sore pussy. other than that an interesting debate. [Whoo Whooooo!]

Only thing that's sore is Dave50's mouth after he pays McLame a visit every night right before his bedtime.
But yet, after all thats been said you havent given any reason to vote for Obama. He wont solute "OUR" flag wear an american flag pin and you support him? Hes non american you retard, You call it "change" in what fashion does Obama offer change over Mccain as Mccain is who he is running against not bush. The only change I see is skin since every election I vote rep. And this election is normal Dem. against rep. and dems have been presidents but yet the word "change" has been added. When you reference "change" what change are you speaking of? The only change I see is skin color, which is not important to me. But you being black, you gotta ignore all the facts and vote for skin, I understand that, its called being racist. Its OK to be black and racist, so its cool.
Why would i waster my time and post reasons to why i support Obama and when you failed to prove the statements you made towards me?

You clearly were wrong with your assumptions, and you want me to continue proving something to you? No kid, you're a waste of my time.

Peace dumbassdave50!

Oh and yeah remember,

OBAMA 09!!
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
Enough of the games, you say its not racists, but can any black folks say their voting for Mccain? Anyone? Anyone? Obama has lied enough, I wanna see real BALLOTS. How many crackers died again? Nobody has answered that for me yet. I know of 1 and that was my G/P. I also want to say becareful of so called "change" and remember who made this great country. I know its not great to you non citizens, we are working on upping welfare and retreat programs so you will love us more. America, Is no longer anywhere near what it was built on... Voters, voting for politicians who dont solute our flag? Its a sad day, but then again Im a republican and before my freedoms are taken, I will still die for this country as Im an armed republican-citizen.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
al stock is not black he is middle eastern.

Thanks,

Im Fijian/Indian/Muslim yet an American Citizen who was Naturalized back in 2003.

wow a citizen for 5 years now you are a expert lol....you are blowing the Obama horn pretty hard your self.

In the end not a whole lot is going to change. Even the winner might only carry what 52% of the vote? So almost half the people will be happy the other will be pissed off and blame the pres for everything. Still go vote that way you will have the right to bitch. Until congress gets in touch with the real issues in the country it will just contunue to roll on the way it has been.......If you ever want to see this country in uproar try to take everybodies guns...then it will get intersting.

I never said anything about me being an expert. [Smile]
 
Posted by lambonotch (Member # 5758) on :
 
so basically dave says he has a gat and is willing to die and now you dont aruge with him lol. ohh and dave 618,000 americans died in the civil war. 360,000 were union crack'as freeing the slaves.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
so basically dave says he has a gat and is willing to die and now you dont aruge with him lol. ohh and dave 618,000 americans died in the civil war. 360,000 were union crack'as freeing the slaves.

I bear armes and Im willing to fight for this country or die! Isnt that how americans freed themselves from the british? And became the best country in the world? What is america gonna do when the real citizens move out of country? Ive been looking at Canada, Austalia and England myself. Once all the crackers move you have a mix of africa and mexico LOL. What is the 1 common denomitor between Africa and Mexico? Uhhhhhh Im still thinking this is a hard one... Oh yeah white crackers! Ans all you fuckers want into this piece of shit country.
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
so basically dave says he has a gat and is willing to die and now you dont aruge with him lol. ohh and dave 618,000 americans died in the civil war. 360,000 were union crack'as freeing the slaves.

See a cracker knows the numbers. And after me asking the same question a few times nobody even mentioned the blacks that died. It wasnt black or white it was about freedom, thats what the U.S. fought for. And now you wanna vote for Obomya apon skin color? Please, as an american citizen, really look at what you want. Here we have America founded upom englishmen< I used that word but hes a cracker, Then we have Africa, Do you really want america to be the same as africa? I know, I know, in America it is bad to compare africa to the U.S. WHY? Because america does better. As a matter of fact knowing Im a good Citizen in general Ive been pushing all my racist cracker friends to bail aswell. Soon this country will be like Africa and all will be happy.... Oh wait Africa is fucked LMAO.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
Enough of the games, you say its not racists, but can any black folks say their voting for Mccain? Anyone? Anyone? Obama has lied enough, I wanna see real BALLOTS. How many crackers died again? Nobody has answered that for me yet. I know of 1 and that was my G/P. I also want to say becareful of so called "change" and remember who made this great country. I know its not great to you non citizens, we are working on upping welfare and retreat programs so you will love us more. America, Is no longer anywhere near what it was built on... Voters, voting for politicians who dont solute our flag? Its a sad day, but then again Im a republican and before my freedoms are taken, I will still die for this country as Im an armed republican-citizen.

Dave mix the fact that you are trying to change the meaning of what an American is and this above statement lets me know that A. You are not capable of holding a valid and meaningful conversation on this matter and B. I highly doubt you are trying to do anything but cause controversy and throw insults. You and the person who called me an "idiot" and threw out the big "ists" and "ism" words. I am not sure how you managed to weasel in the civil war, call people crackers, degrade union workers, call people out on their race (and be wrong).....all in one thread but that is a feat in itself.

And to answer your question:

And as I remembered roughly in the Civil War 617,000 Americans died. Roughly 179,000 were black men. Also blacks fought on the Southern side as well. And I use the term fought loosely because most enlisted blacks supported the Armies in various non-combat positions.

But that war was originally fought over secession and economics (cotton), not slavery. Pretty much the war had nothing to do with slavery until around 1863. While it was integral to the movement of freeing slaves it was not the sole purpose of the Civil War. While Lincoln will go down as the President who did so. It was also written that he lied for the most part and changed the tone of the war to get Blacks to enlist.

Oh yea I am done with this topic as it is like feeding a dead horse live oats.

[ September 30, 2008, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
lol how will electing obama go far in fixing our forgien public image? Do you think all these countries are as racist as the people on this board who keep bringing up his skin color?

It was a very generalized statement. I am not sure if you have traveled abroad. But I played overseas basketball and traveled abroad and I can tell you that, the image of the "white man" and his democracy is very skewed abroad. There was a few areas I played in that people were still thinking I could not drink from the same faucet..lol. But my hypothesis and idea is based on my interactions. Basically when they see a person of ethnic background as commander in chief, it could very well change those views. Making America that land where if you dream it, it can happen. Making America seem more grown up so to speak. Just think 400 years ago give or take, we couldn't drink out of the same faucet as white folks. And to go from that to a Black man in the highest office. Can do nothing but change the views of America.
LMAO! Your own blindness is hendering you. You respected a country who's people didnt realize WHITE CRACKERS lost their lives freeing the SOUTH from slavery? Didnt you let them know the crackers fought to end slavery? Can anyone who is not white tell me how many white people died during this war? You respected views of people who didnt know slavery ended longer ago then youve been alive? Or maybe you thought slavery only existed in America? I bet thats it, I think you think African slave traders only sold to America? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline
Now your normal response when I bust your ass is to say Im clueless, you feel sorry for me, Im retarded but you never include facts... I love this site! http://www.newsmax.com/politics/Obama_Wants_NRA_Ads_Banne/2008/09/27/135118.html?s=al&promo_code=6BBA-1 Thanks Dana!

Freeing slaves what NOT the main reason behind the Civil War. You do know that don"t you?

[ September 30, 2008, 11:50 AM: Message edited by: East Bay 50 ]
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
Did you guys know the bailouts bill real name? Its weird. Check it out

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml

BILL TITLE: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide earnings assistance and tax relief to members of the uniformed services, volunteer firefighters, and Peace Corps volunteers, and for other purposes

Wonder why they threw in all that tax relief stuff for a bill to bailout wallstreet?
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
Enough of the games, you say its not racists, but can any black folks say their voting for Mccain? Anyone? Anyone? Obama has lied enough, I wanna see real BALLOTS. How many crackers died again? Nobody has answered that for me yet. I know of 1 and that was my G/P. I also want to say becareful of so called "change" and remember who made this great country. I know its not great to you non citizens, we are working on upping welfare and retreat programs so you will love us more. America, Is no longer anywhere near what it was built on... Voters, voting for politicians who dont solute our flag? Its a sad day, but then again Im a republican and before my freedoms are taken, I will still die for this country as Im an armed republican-citizen.

Dave mix the fact that you are trying to change the meaning of what an American is and this above statement lets me know that A. You are not capable of holding a valid and meaningful conversation on this matter and B. I highly doubt you are trying to do anything but cause controversy and throw insults. You and the person who called me an "idiot" and threw out the big "ists" and "ism" words. I am not sure how you managed to weasel in the civil war, call people crackers, degrade union workers, call people out on their race (and be wrong).....all in one thread but that is a feat in itself.

And to answer your question:

And as I remembered roughly in the Civil War 617,000 Americans died. Roughly 179,000 were black men. Also blacks fought on the Southern side as well. And I use the term fought loosely because most enlisted blacks supported the Armies in various non-combat positions.

But that war was originally fought over secession and economics (cotton), not slavery. Pretty much the war had nothing to do with slavery until around 1863. While it was integral to the movement of freeing slaves it was not the sole purpose of the Civil War. While Lincoln will go down as the President who did so. It was also written that he lied for the most part and changed the tone of the war to get Blacks to enlist.

Oh yea I am done with this topic as it is like feeding a dead horse live oats.

oops! I did not see this post above mine and posted something similar in regards to slavery but not nearly as in detail. Has anyone noticed that Lambonotch and Dave50 always post after each other? I think they are the same person.
 
Posted by lambonotch (Member # 5758) on :
 
also dave about 20,000 african americans died in the civil war. where's rizzle skizzzle peaches? id like to hear his opinion lol.
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
Found this interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU4sVQV3Lhk
 
Posted by lambonotch (Member # 5758) on :
 
no me and dave are not the same person, tho we have the same entertainment values. lol
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
Fannie Mae predictions in 2004

[ September 30, 2008, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: 532Fastback ]
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
dp

[ September 30, 2008, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: 532Fastback ]
 
Posted by BCINGUU (Member # 2397) on :
 
Wow. Just wow.
 
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on :
 
Random Facts

This is a 7 page thread.

Dow lost over 700 points yesterday

Gas is under 100.00 bucks a barrel.

WaMu collapsed, seized and assests were sold to JPMorgan Chase on Friday.

And Sara Palin says she has enough foreign policy experience because of Alaskas proximity to Russia.
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
good god dave this shit is an all out debate. tho i didnt read the all 6 pages i kinda get the idea that its n8 and dave vs. fr5.0 and al stock?

Once again you fail Lambo i am a Republican, I own guns and i vote.
I think both N8 and Al stock are morons on this subject!!!!!!
Go ahead and vote for Obomya his racist views show that who ever votes for him, is against there own country.
The country that never turned it's back on them now faces demise by its own peolpe.
And to the people that want Obomya in office, you should move to a country that takes your rights, after McCain wins this election.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
good god dave this shit is an all out debate. tho i didnt read the all 6 pages i kinda get the idea that its n8 and dave vs. fr5.0 and al stock?

Once again you fail Lambo i am a Republican, I own guns and i vote.
I think both N8 and Al stock are morons on this subject!!!!!!
Go ahead and vote for Obomya his racist views show that who ever votes for him, is against there own country.
The country that never turned it's back on them now faces demise by its own peolpe.
And to the people that want Obomya in office, you should move to a country that takes your rights, after McCain wins this election.

wow, just wow.
Just like a under-educated ill-mannered person to resort to name calling and gross exaggerations to drive home their point. Good job sport. I am a much bigger person than that to engage in such rhetoric and otherwise non-sense. I now add you to the list of persons that are incapable of carrying on a civilized conversation about subjects such as these. I should have known you were not capable when i asked you to PM me facts and all you had was "I swear I read it, in my 11th grade history book". [BS flag]

[ September 30, 2008, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by fr5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by lambonotch:
good god dave this shit is an all out debate. tho i didnt read the all 6 pages i kinda get the idea that its n8 and dave vs. fr5.0 and al stock?

Once again you fail Lambo i am a Republican, I own guns and i vote.
I think both N8 and Al stock are morons on this subject!!!!!!
Go ahead and vote for Obomya his racist views show that who ever votes for him, is against there own country.
The country that never turned it's back on them now faces demise by its own peolpe.
And to the people that want Obomya in office, you should move to a country that takes your rights, after McCain wins this election.

wow, just wow.
Just like a under-educated ill-mannered person to resort to name calling and gross exaggerations to drive home their point. Good job sport. I am a much bigger person than that to engage in such rhetoric and otherwise non-sense. I now add you to the list of persons that are incapable of carrying on a civilized conversation about subjects such as these. I should have known you were not capable when i asked you to PM me facts and all you had was "I swear I read it, in my 11th grade history book". [BS flag]

And to think i thought you where a smart and descent individual,but none the less you are whats rong with this country.
My comment said "on this subject", You are nothing short of a commie peice of shit, your comments mean nothing.
I gave you the facts,it's not my job to feed you.
Since the begining of this thread you have made comments about McCain, trying to make him out to be Bush. And in the midst of the confusion you probably dont want to admit you voted for Bush, and know in some twisted view you think by voting for Obomya your going to redeem your self.
Your underachieved dialouge on this thread showes that you have a poor quest for knowledge, and resort to name calling and larg words to seem inferior, like a woman.
Good luck on your quest for a suitable leader, but i hate to inform you (actualy love to)you're not going to find it in Obomya.
On another subject, why are you still postingon this thread, I thought you wanted to talk about whos putting bullit's and fr500's on.  -
And i never said i read it in my 11th greade history book, i just think thats your age level!!!

[ September 30, 2008, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
GO MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by 5.0_707 (Member # 5893) on :
 
[patriot]

[ September 30, 2008, 11:22 PM: Message edited by: 5.0_707 ]
 
Posted by lambonotch (Member # 5758) on :
 
fr5.0 my mistake, i guess your on the same side of the table as me and dave. i am a republican and think obama is garbage. i just didnt read all the posts to see your side. [patriot]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
well the republicans won this thread, we couldnt have done it without you lambo. [dance]
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
just let this thread die... or all those left wing loons will come back.
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
just let this thread die... or all those left wing loons will come back.

hahahahahahahahhahahaha
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
just let this thread die... or all those left wing loons will come back.

Yup, this horse is dead no need to beat it! Never once was Obama backed with any facts just ignorance and name calling.
P.S. you better hope N8 dont see that.

[ October 01, 2008, 02:53 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
he didnt see this that i wrote about him a page back...

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
no N8 is a fucking moron that thinks conservative values are a part of socialism. after this idiot stated that he lost all credibility in this debate.


 
Posted by 302 DROP (Member # 1323) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
FUCK BUSH . [dance]

OBAMA [patriot]

i like bush ,, especially when a girls drop's her panties, i like bush
 
Posted by NiftyWhiteFifty (Member # 4320) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
some people believe that the government should take care of them from birth to death. health care. tax the rich and give that money to the poor. for the sake of being FAIR. obama promises to give that.

i dont believe that the government should be involved in things like that. its just that simple.

wow, just wow.

I seriously cannot believe some of the things that are being said on this board. Its almost scary that some of you can vote and will. Shallow, hollow, self centered, selfish get enough of you guys in one room or one state and you have a communist party.

Ok i know i came in on this thread a little late but i had to comment on this post...

N8 you seriously might want to look up the definition of communism... because communism is all about having the government take control of health care, and everything else in the country and take all the income you bring in to "redistribute" as they see fit.

The things you call "shallow, hollow, self centered and selfish" are actually capitalistic ideals! and if you don't like them, i sugguest you move to canada, where they will pay for all your medical needs (but you may need to wait a year or two to have any kind of surgery) and you'll only get to keep about 60% of your income cuz they'll take the rest in taxes!

[patriot]
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NiftyWhiteFifty:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
some people believe that the government should take care of them from birth to death. health care. tax the rich and give that money to the poor. for the sake of being FAIR. obama promises to give that.

i dont believe that the government should be involved in things like that. its just that simple.

wow, just wow.

I seriously cannot believe some of the things that are being said on this board. Its almost scary that some of you can vote and will. Shallow, hollow, self centered, selfish get enough of you guys in one room or one state and you have a communist party.

Ok i know i came in on this thread a little late but i had to comment on this post...

N8 you seriously might want to look up the definition of communism... because communism is all about having the government take control of health care, and everything else in the country and take all the income you bring in to "redistribute" as they see fit.

The things you call "shallow, hollow, self centered and selfish" are actually capitalistic ideals! and if you don't like them, i sugguest you move to canada, where they will pay for all your medical needs (but you may need to wait a year or two to have any kind of surgery) and you'll only get to keep about 60% of your income cuz they'll take the rest in taxes!

[patriot]

[patriot]
 
Posted by NiftyWhiteFifty (Member # 4320) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
Fannie Mae predictions in 2004

and Wow, they need to show that video on every news channel in the country!! too bad you'll only hear stuff like that on fox news!!
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
it pisses me off to watch that video
 
Posted by NiftyWhiteFifty (Member # 4320) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
it pisses me off to watch that video

Yea, to watch that and know that the democrats will get away with it while everyone blames it on the republicans for their "laissez faire" view of government when they where the ones calling out that BS with bad mortgage loans long before the shit hit the fan! if you look at who was getting money from fannie and freddy it was the democrats, not republicans! obama was number two with $120,000 in political donations from fannie mae with only three years in office!! not to mention his own economic advisor who was the CEO of fannie mae!

I See connections there that i don't like seeing. if obama is taking advice from the very person who was the CEO of the company largely responsible for the mess this country is in, how can we trust him to get us out of it? I don't see how anyone could vote for him just for that reason alone!

[ October 01, 2008, 05:07 AM: Message edited by: NiftyWhiteFifty ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
it pisses me off to watch that video

Dude! Why does it piss you off? Democrats lie! Isnt that a good thing? Obomya lies, doesnt respect the american flag, but then again "we" need change, Im voting for the black man because Im black and it doesnt matter how much he lies! Hell, he could rape my 3 year old child it wouldnt matter! My eyes are closed and my minds made up! OBAMA! All the way to the grave! 100%!

[ October 01, 2008, 05:32 AM: Message edited by: Dave50 ]
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
So what I see from this is? Vote for Obama because he will end the war? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Its OK to disrespect our flag? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

Its ok to completely lie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8

And support him because my union says so... Did youre union promise to lower dues? Unions make money, if they didnt they wouldnt be around... DUH. So if your Union is pushing Obomya then they are gonna make more money from you, not just from your hard work but now they want your vote aswell. What are you getting in return from your union?
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
Dave50 I guess I am a rareity or I just don't like people telling me who to vote for. I vote republican.but you asked so her is what my union has done for me
# 1 1/3 more money in the first year on my new job.
# 2 medical insurance(my dealership mechanic job provided this for me at 225 a month out of my pocket [Eek!] )my dues are a third of that 14 years later.
#3 Dental no previous employer had this
#4 vision care no previous employer had this.
#5 something you really need phscological help
#6 a pension plan for retirement. no previous employer had this.
#7 a 401 k program a few other employers had this but they all closed them when they realized it was costing them money. Previous employers matched up to 3%. This one is all me.

Other than that the union has done nothing for me. btw I have never been writen up so the union isn't saving my job either.

[ October 01, 2008, 06:55 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
So what I see from this is? Vote for Obama because he will end the war? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Its OK to disrespect our flag? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

Its ok to completely lie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8

And support him because my union says so... Did youre union promise to lower dues? Unions make money, if they didnt they wouldnt be around... DUH. So if your Union is pushing Obomya then they are gonna make more money from you, not just from your hard work but now they want your vote aswell. What are you getting in return from your union?

Dude,

You sit there and STILL say Obama lies,

here let me PROVE some videos where McLame gets CAUGHT on his own words, that fool is so old, he doesn't even know his own words.

Matterfact, he lies so much, he doesn't realise that ALMOST ALL his LIES are on YOUTUBE LMAO!!

Well Made Video Of McShame/McLame LYING ON VIDEO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Look at his tired ass speeches, you think this idiot will lead a country?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4


^^ He looks like ne needs a rockstar drink or a damm roundhouse kick to the face by Chuck Norris to get him more enegergized.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_zWbsJr45k
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs
4. That fool is so old, he can't even keep his cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2D_mhqDRBY
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
You guys are awesome!!! I love all the name calling: McLame, McShame..... how clever! Those are the best parts of your posts!! How about Barack Hussein Osama the Muslim terrorist? There's some name calling..... does a lot of good, huh?
 
Posted by iron281 (Member # 80) on :
 
All I have to say is...


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Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
So what I see from this is? Vote for Obama because he will end the war? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Its OK to disrespect our flag? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

Its ok to completely lie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8

And support him because my union says so... Did youre union promise to lower dues? Unions make money, if they didnt they wouldnt be around... DUH. So if your Union is pushing Obomya then they are gonna make more money from you, not just from your hard work but now they want your vote aswell. What are you getting in return from your union?

Dude,

You sit there and STILL say Obama lies,

here let me PROVE some videos where McLame gets CAUGHT on his own words, that fool is so old, he doesn't even know his own words.

Matterfact, he lies so much, he doesn't realise that ALMOST ALL his LIES are on YOUTUBE LMAO!!

Well Made Video Of McShame/McLame LYING ON VIDEO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Look at his tired ass speeches, you think this idiot will lead a country?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4


^^ He looks like ne needs a rockstar drink or a damm roundhouse kick to the face by Chuck Norris to get him more enegergized.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_zWbsJr45k
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs
4. That fool is so old, he can't even keep his cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2D_mhqDRBY

Your edited videos are comicle but not facts, thanks for the education on stupidity.
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
Yesterday a staff member from the Howard Stern show traveled to Harlem to ask potential voters who they were voting for and why.
The first gentleman he asked stated he was voting for Obama. The interviewer then asked if it had anything to do with his policies. The man stated yes he felt Obama's ideas would be great for the country. The interviewer then asked if it was Obama's anti stem-cell research platform or his finish the war we started stance. The man agreed on both cases stating that he too though we should finish the war, and he did not feel we should be doing stem cell research. The interviewer then asked if he thought Obama's choice of Sarah Palin as his Vice-President was a wise choice. The man stated yes she would be great. The interviewer then thanked the gentleman and moved on.
This happened on multiple occasions where the people who said they were voting for Obama, with McCain's platform and Vice-President.
Just some food for thought.....
 
Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
Yesterday a staff member from the Howard Stern show traveled to Harlem to ask potential voters who they were voting for and why.
The first gentleman he asked stated he was voting for Obama. The interviewer then asked if it had anything to do with his policies. The man stated yes he felt Obama's ideas would be great for the country. The interviewer then asked if it was Obama's anti stem-cell research platform or his finish the war we started stance. The man agreed on both cases stating that he too though we should finish the war, and he did not feel we should be doing stem cell research. The interviewer then asked if he thought Obama's choice of Sarah Palin as his Vice-President was a wise choice. The man stated yes she would be great. The interviewer then thanked the gentleman and moved on.
This happened on multiple occasions where the people who said they were voting for Obama, with McCain's platform and Vice-President.
Just some food for thought.....

black people dont want to admit they are voting for obama because he's black.
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
I am voting democrat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU-EpU13K_o
 
Posted by SF89lLx (Member # 3965) on :
 
too bad they're arent enough ignorant rednecks here to vote for mccain. it doesnt matter,, the republican party won't win because the shithole the country has taken since bush entered office... think about , since bush has started whats happend... 9-11., more "terrorism" , patriot act, higher gas prices, 2 pointless wars,, 4k + american lives lost, poor country response to natural disasters such as Katrina, the sub prime meltdown, and the lost could go on.......... [BS flag]
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SF89lLx:
too bad they're arent enough ignorant rednecks here to vote for mccain. it doesnt matter,, the republican party won't win because the shithole the country has taken since bush entered office... think about , since bush has started whats happend... 9-11., more "terrorism" , patriot act, higher gas prices, 2 pointless wars,, 4k + american lives lost, poor country response to natural disasters such as Katrina, the sub prime meltdown, and the lost could go on.......... [BS flag]

i wouldn't expect it to get any better with obama or mccain, politicians are all the same. The Senate/house is controlled by the democratic party and they were talking about ending the war and not giving bush anymore money for the war and nothing has happened about that stuff, infact they've given him more money for the war.
Have any of you looked at the approved bailout yet? Its been setup so a lot of politician friends (lobbyists) get more help than anyone else.
 
Posted by SF89lLx (Member # 3965) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:
So what I see from this is? Vote for Obama because he will end the war? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Its OK to disrespect our flag? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

Its ok to completely lie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejm8OJc8Mt8

And support him because my union says so... Did youre union promise to lower dues? Unions make money, if they didnt they wouldnt be around... DUH. So if your Union is pushing Obomya then they are gonna make more money from you, not just from your hard work but now they want your vote aswell. What are you getting in return from your union?

Dude,

You sit there and STILL say Obama lies,

here let me PROVE some videos where McLame gets CAUGHT on his own words, that fool is so old, he doesn't even know his own words.

Matterfact, he lies so much, he doesn't realise that ALMOST ALL his LIES are on YOUTUBE LMAO!!

Well Made Video Of McShame/McLame LYING ON VIDEO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Look at his tired ass speeches, you think this idiot will lead a country?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4


^^ He looks like ne needs a rockstar drink or a damm roundhouse kick to the face by Chuck Norris to get him more enegergized.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_zWbsJr45k
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs
4. That fool is so old, he can't even keep his cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2D_mhqDRBY

the first two videos are hilariousi!! [worship]
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
he Senate Conservatives Fund Website has the bill up for public perusal. The bill has bloated from 3 pages to 451 pages! By the time we're done, I'm pretty sure that nobody in Congress will have been able to give it a thorough read.

The bill is now filled with pork and earmarks, illustrating that even in a time of "crisis" our Congress is simply unable to stay away from lobbyists. A sampling of some of the pork projects in what is SUPPOSED to be a clean economic rescue bill:

New Tax earmarks in Bailout bill
- Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502)
- Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503)
- 6 page package of earmarks for litigants in the 1989 Exxon Valdez incident, Alaska (Sec. 504)

Tax earmark “extenders” in the bailout bill.
- Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308)
- American Samoa (Sec. 309)
- Mine Rescue Teams (Sec. 310)
- Mine Safety Equipment (Sec. 311)
- Domestic Production Activities in Puerto Rico (Sec. 312)
- Indian Tribes (Sec. 314, 315)
- Railroads (Sec. 316)
- Auto Racing Tracks (317)
- District of Columbia (Sec. 322)
- Wool Research (Sec. 325)

Its cool about the race tracks, i won't complain about that but just shows how politicians are easily paid off to do whatever anyone with money wants.
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
[Eek!]

[ October 02, 2008, 03:12 AM: Message edited by: 532Fastback ]
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
im just sayn, probably half of the people that are going to vot dem. probably voted to keep bush in office, so go ahead and cuntinue to say its his falt. [BS flag]
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SF89lLx:
too bad they're arent enough ignorant rednecks here to vote for mccain. it doesnt matter,, the republican party won't win because the shithole the country has taken since bush entered office... think about , since bush has started whats happend... 9-11., more "terrorism" , patriot act, higher gas prices, 2 pointless wars,, 4k + american lives lost, poor country response to natural disasters such as Katrina, the sub prime meltdown, and the lost could go on.......... [BS flag]

You do realize the WTC was bombed during the Clinton administration...
Terrorism gained recognition mainly after 9/11, although it has been around since the French Revolution...
Gas prices are a direct reflection of oil prices and the greed of the Oil companies. Take a look at their quarterly/annual profits...
Natural disasters? Do you know how it even works for a response? States are responsible for themselves, hense federal funding (TAXES)...until they ask for help...the Gov't BY LAW cannot go in and take over...
Subprime meltdown? Blame it on the fukkin' banks. Again, greed. Had nothing to do with political parties.
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
quote:
Originally posted by SF89lLx:
too bad they're arent enough ignorant rednecks here to vote for mccain. it doesnt matter,, the republican party won't win because the shithole the country has taken since bush entered office... think about , since bush has started whats happend... 9-11., more "terrorism" , patriot act, higher gas prices, 2 pointless wars,, 4k + american lives lost, poor country response to natural disasters such as Katrina, the sub prime meltdown, and the lost could go on.......... [BS flag]

You do realize the WTC was bombed during the Clinton administration...
Terrorism gained recognition mainly after 9/11, although it has been around since the French Revolution...
Gas prices are a direct reflection of oil prices and the greed of the Oil companies. Take a look at their quarterly/annual profits...
Natural disasters? Do you know how it even works for a response? States are responsible for themselves, hense federal funding (TAXES)...until they ask for help...the Gov't BY LAW cannot go in and take over...
Subprime meltdown? Blame it on the fukkin' banks. Again, greed. Had nothing to do with political parties.

Damn you John, gotta roll up in here with the truth makin sense and shit.... no one is going to listen unless your making fun of someone or talking out your ass.
 
Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
quote:
Originally posted by SF89lLx:
too bad they're arent enough ignorant rednecks here to vote for mccain. it doesnt matter,, the republican party won't win because the shithole the country has taken since bush entered office... think about , since bush has started whats happend... 9-11., more "terrorism" , patriot act, higher gas prices, 2 pointless wars,, 4k + american lives lost, poor country response to natural disasters such as Katrina, the sub prime meltdown, and the lost could go on.......... [BS flag]

You do realize the WTC was bombed during the Clinton administration...
Terrorism gained recognition mainly after 9/11, although it has been around since the French Revolution...
Gas prices are a direct reflection of oil prices and the greed of the Oil companies. Take a look at their quarterly/annual profits...
Natural disasters? Do you know how it even works for a response? States are responsible for themselves, hense federal funding (TAXES)...until they ask for help...the Gov't BY LAW cannot go in and take over...
Subprime meltdown? Blame it on the fukkin' banks. Again, greed. Had nothing to do with political parties.

8 pages later
 
Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
quote:
Originally posted by SF89lLx:
too bad they're arent enough ignorant rednecks here to vote for mccain. it doesnt matter,, the republican party won't win because the shithole the country has taken since bush entered office... think about , since bush has started whats happend... 9-11., more "terrorism" , patriot act, higher gas prices, 2 pointless wars,, 4k + american lives lost, poor country response to natural disasters such as Katrina, the sub prime meltdown, and the lost could go on.......... [BS flag]

You do realize the WTC was bombed during the Clinton administration...
Terrorism gained recognition mainly after 9/11, although it has been around since the French Revolution...
Gas prices are a direct reflection of oil prices and the greed of the Oil companies. Take a look at their quarterly/annual profits...
Natural disasters? Do you know how it even works for a response? States are responsible for themselves, hense federal funding (TAXES)...until they ask for help...the Gov't BY LAW cannot go in and take over...
Subprime meltdown? Blame it on the fukkin' banks. Again, greed. Had nothing to do with political parties.

BS! Youre just a racist white, slave owning republican! with facts! I call racism. I gotta pull my race card because you made to much sense.
 




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