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Topic: Do you think the new bill passed in Arizona is wrong?
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SLOWBACK 67
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I personally think it's a good idea. I don't feel it's going to be as bad as people are making it out to be.( racial pro. )
Is I wrong to arrest people who are illegal living in the U.S ? Is it wrong to make it harder for illegals to be here? Is it wrong to be pulled over for a traffic violation and arrested for not being here legal?
Let the debate begin
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BIzKitBrAIn
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It is RIGHT for all of the above.
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quote: Originally posted by Slowback67: I personally think it's a good idea. I don't feel it's going to be as bad as people are making it out to be.( racial pro. )
Is I wrong to arrest people who are illegal living in the U.S ? Is it wrong to make it harder for illegals to be here? Is it wrong to be pulled over for a traffic violation and arrested for not being here legal?
Let the debate begin
Honestly I see it as a positive step with potential negative backlash on many levels. So all in all it will prove to be not worth it IMO.
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quote: Originally posted by Slowback67: I personally think it's a good idea. I don't feel it's going to be as bad as people are making it out to be.( racial pro. )
Is I wrong to arrest people who are illegal living in the U.S ? Is it wrong to make it harder for illegals to be here? Is it wrong to be pulled over for a traffic violation and arrested for not being here legal?
Let the debate begin
The answer to all of your questions is no. It is unconstitutional to base a law on a person's race. It only opens the door to all kinds of injustices. Illegal aliens are not the only people that are going to be effected by this law. US citizens of hispanic descent will be undoubtledly get caught up in some way or another because of it. I agree something needs to be done but laws based on race are not the answer.
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FUCK YEA IT'S WRONG U KNOW HOW MANY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE GOING TO START MIGRATING THIS WAY NOW AND NOT ONLY THAT, THAT SHITS JUST FUCKED UP THINK ABOUT ALOT OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DO GOOD FOR THIS COUNTRY AND FOR THEM TO GET TREATED IN THAT WAY I THINK IS FUCKED UP....
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Well it can go both ways I'm mexican...and I think that the people that come here just to fuck shit up like some mexicans drive like crazy and not give a fuck bout the cops should be sent back....but the people that come here to have a better life and have there kids be someone in life there the people that should stay no matter what...and plus who wants to go back to mexico a lot of people are gettin killd like crazy...
You just to put yourself in there shoes to feel what they are feeling..like I said it goes both ways for me
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quote: Originally posted by king_jays_50: quote: Originally posted by Slowback67: I personally think it's a good idea. I don't feel it's going to be as bad as people are making it out to be.( racial pro. )
Is I wrong to arrest people who are illegal living in the U.S ? Is it wrong to make it harder for illegals to be here? Is it wrong to be pulled over for a traffic violation and arrested for not being here legal?
Let the debate begin
The answer to all of your questions is no. It is unconstitutional to base a law on a person's race. It only opens the door to all kinds of injustices. Illegal aliens are not the only people that are going to be effected by this law. US citizens of hispanic descent will be undoubtledly get caught up in some way or another because of it. I agree something needs to be done but laws based on race are not the answer.
YEA WHAT HE SAID
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its UNCONSTITUTIONAL,! PERIOD, i dont see why they just don't beef up the borders and border patrol so they can control those trying to get in, instead of having a reactive approach once they're already here...
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sic70stang
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good!! I'm glad for arizona
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quote: Originally posted by Slowback67: I personally think it's a good idea. I don't feel it's going to be as bad as people are making it out to be.( racial pro. )
Is I wrong to arrest people who are illegal living in the U.S ? Is it wrong to make it harder for illegals to be here? Is it wrong to be pulled over for a traffic violation and arrested for not being here legal?
Let the debate begin
is it really a question whether it's right to enforce something when part of the question has the word illegal as the subject?
if it's illegal, it's illegal, enforce it.
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sic70stang
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I didn't know illegal was a race.
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BIzKitBrAIn
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quote: Originally posted by 23109: I didn't know illegal was a race.
Only if you don't have your green card!
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I really do feel that all people that look or are Hispanic are going to be pulled over more, with this law being passed.
When I grow out my beard I look like John walker aka American talliban... I know when I fly looking like this I'm going to be checked out more often then not. The question I ask you guy's is ...... Is it not worth the extra time to make sure everyone is safe and legal? Hispanic, Black, White and Asians don't seem to have a problem with airport security pulling people out that look middle eastern. We profile them more then anybody else sence 9/11 IMO.
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the backlash on this will make Arizona look like some backwards ass, country bumpkins. I like where they are trying to take this, but it is just implemented wrong.
Lawsuits, negative press, tourism loss revenue, they are already losings sponsors and stuff for tradeshows and what have you. So this decisions will hit their pocket books. And they dont want that. They should rethink this.
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I heard over the weekend Arizona has the MOST "ILLEGAL" IMMIGRANTS crossing it's borders, because of that I think the new law is ABSOLUTELY ok.
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I personally think all illegal immigrants should be kicked the fuck out of the U.S IMMEDIATELY! A good place to start rounding them up is the home depot parking lot! Either come here legally or GTFO!
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I think that's fucked up.they should not have the rite to pull some1 over just because they look like they aint from here.I think they should just get pulled over if they commit somthing illigal.
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The key word in this issue is ILLEGAL alien, if you are here legally you have nothing to worry about.
I think its about damn time a state passed a law like this giving police the clearance to check for immigration status. My wife is Canadian, and a LEGAL resident, so i know (if we lived in Arizona) this could affect her, but she is here legally and would have nothing to worry about if her immigration status was checked.
So, Im all about this law...
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quote: Originally posted by 306mustang: I think that's fucked up.they should not have the rite to pull some1 over just because they look like they aint from here.I think they should just get pulled over if they commit somthing illigal.
In regards to this, this is just paranoia, they CANT pull someone over just for being mexican, they have to have a reason to pull you over, like speeding, or any other infraction. Now if you happen to, you know, NOT have a drivers license and not speak a bit of english, then they can probablly get INS involved. Read up on the law that was passed before getting so worried.
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quote: Originally posted by Mean 5.0: quote: Originally posted by 306mustang: I think that's fucked up.they should not have the rite to pull some1 over just because they look like they ain't from here.I think they should just get pulled over if they commit something illegal.
In regards to this, this is just paranoia, they CANT pull someone over just for being mexican, they have to have a reason to pull you over, like speeding, or any other infraction. Now if you happen to, you know, NOT have a drivers license and not speak a bit of english, then they can probably get INS involved. Read up on the law that was passed before getting so worried.
Am not worried about it I was born here and have my L,s I just think that's dirty.well I herd that they can just pull you over if you look suspicious or look like an illegal alien
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Unconstitutional? Who do you think the constitution protects? US Citizens, not illegal aliens. If your legal show your documents, if your not go straight back to where you came from. 30% of all inmates in our prison system are illegal aliens. I'm sure there are a bunch of hard working illegals but they need to work harder at getting a green card first. If you cant get a green card, your lazy in my book and a law breaker so you get jail!
And if your a suspicious looking brown person, its a great way to pull your ass over and find out what kind of drugs you got. If you dont have anything, then have a nice day. [ April 26, 2010, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: Yaterstang ]
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sic70stang
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^^^ that's what liberals like sf89lx want you to think
edit: that's for 306mustang [ April 26, 2010, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: 23109 ]
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quote: Originally posted by FireVert03: Well it can go both ways I'm mexican...and I think that the people that come here just to fuck shit up like some mexicans drive like crazy and not give a fuck bout the cops should be sent back....but the people that come here to have a better life and have there kids be someone in life there the people that should stay no matter what...and plus who wants to go back to mexico a lot of people are gettin killd like crazy...
You just to put yourself in there shoes to feel what they are feeling..like I said it goes both ways for me
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quote: Originally posted by Yaterstang: Unconstitutional? Who do you think the constitution protects? US Citizens, not illegal aliens. If your legal show your documents, if your not go straight back to where you came from. 30% of all inmates in our prison system are illegal aliens. I'm sure there are a bunch of hard working illegals but they need to work harder at getting a green card first. If you cant get a green card, your lazy in my book and a law breaker so you get jail!
And if your a suspicious looking brown person, its a great way to pull your ass over and find out what kind of drugs you got. If you dont have anything, then have a nice day.
its not easy for illegal ppl to get a green card..
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quote: Originally posted by 1sickGT: quote: Originally posted by Yaterstang: Unconstitutional? Who do you think the constitution protects? US Citizens, not illegal aliens. If your legal show your documents, if your not go straight back to where you came from. 30% of all inmates in our prison system are illegal aliens. I'm sure there are a bunch of hard working illegals but they need to work harder at getting a green card first. If you cant get a green card, your lazy in my book and a law breaker so you get jail!
And if your a suspicious looking brown person, its a great way to pull your ass over and find out what kind of drugs you got. If you dont have anything, then have a nice day.
its not easy for illegal ppl to get a green card..
There's a process, and if your illegal you have no business being here in the first place.
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