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All i know is everyday the housing market is getting tougher i went through hell to get my house so i say get it however you can....2% can be a nice chunk of cash depending on the price of the home
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Who was the large guy joe working at chase in sac area? Used to have some decent info before i bought my first home! Ill try and did his s/n up
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quote: Originally posted by 5.t0es: Who was the large guy joe working at chase in sac area? Used to have some decent info before i bought my first home! Ill try and did his s/n up
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Well I have the 20% for the price of the home im looking for. The only thing that kinda questions me is that there is really like 80 to 100 bucks difference between 20% to 3.5% and in my mind I feel ether I keep keep most of my down and spend on upgrade
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quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: Well I have the 20% for the price of the home im looking for. The only thing that kinda questions me is that there is really like 80 to 100 bucks difference between 20% to 3.5% and in my mind I feel ether I keep keep most of my down and spend on upgrade
huh? your WRONG. tack on 200-300 a month for mortgage insurance plus your 80-100 extra principal...upwards of 400 a month
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losbadgt and do your math again.......400k house 80k down is 20 percent 12k is 3 percent 68k difference is a couple hundred dollars not 80?
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quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: Well I have the 20% for the price of the home im looking for. The only thing that kinda questions me is that there is really like 80 to 100 bucks difference between 20% to 3.5% and in my mind I feel ether I keep keep most of my down and spend on upgrade
Keep thinking like that you will be in debt for the rest of your life an never own the home you're living in.
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If you have the 20% you'd be better off putting it down vs paying pmi. Pmi is of absolutely no benefit to you, the only way to collect on the policy is the bank collecting if you don't pay. Your better off lighting your money on fire. But honestly if you are having problems understanding the difference between 3.5% vs 20% you better go back to your loan officer or bank and have then prepare some new quotes ASAP. I mean this should be the biggest purchase of your life, so you should know as much as you can first.
You do realize closing costs are another 2-3% of the sales price too they don't let you finance, right!?
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quote: Originally posted by 135.0: If you have the 20% you'd be better off putting it down vs paying pmi. Pmi is of absolutely no benefit to you, the only way to collect on the policy is the bank collecting if you don't pay. Your better off lighting your money on fire. But honestly if you are having problems understanding the difference between 3.5% vs 20% you better go back to your loan officer or bank and have then prepare some new quotes ASAP. I mean this should be the biggest purchase of your life, so you should know as much as you can first.
You do realize closing costs are another 2-3% of the sales price too they don't let you finance, right!?
Well this is pretty much my first time buying a home thats why I been asking and trying to figure out whats best. Thats why also I been saving to buy a home. But I got cut up in this whole fha thing so thats why I was in doubt.
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Looks like I should've came here for advice before I bought my house I was clueless at first
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We did FHA 3% down, it was easier in our situation to be able to buy our house. We carried the loan for 3yrs then refinanced to remove the PMI and get a slightly lower interest rate.
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quote: Originally posted by RAP66: We did FHA 3% down, it was easier in our situation to be able to buy our house. We carried the loan for 3yrs then refinanced to remove the PMI and get a slightly lower interest rate.
This is what I plan to do in the near future I also did the FHA 3% down.
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quote: Originally posted by 86hatchkid: quote: Originally posted by RAP66: We did FHA 3% down, it was easier in our situation to be able to buy our house. We carried the loan for 3yrs then refinanced to remove the PMI and get a slightly lower interest rate.
This is what I plan to do in the near future I also did the FHA 3% down.
You can refi anytime you want, we did it to get rid of the rip off PMI. In my case I was between jobs and working as a long term contract employee. Making it harder for me even be considered for a refi. Luckily I landed a nice job and our equity in the house has nearly doubled since we bought it, so for us it was win win. [ 2014-10-28, 12:23 AM: Message edited by: RAP66 ]
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So if you can just refi anytime you want. Let's say you buy a house now at 3.75% with PMI and by the time you pay the loan down to 80% or the value goes up to where your at 80% but the rates are at 4% or even 5%. Why would you refi to a higher rate again???? And if you can refi anytime you want, how come when everybody's house price was super low a couple years back, hardly anybody could refi unless you qualified for the Obama plan???? Lol
Stick conventional, it's the only way you can keep the low ass rate we have right now which isn't going to last forever, when your pay down the loan and have 80% loan to value. All you do then is get an appraisal and not have to refi. You know refinancing isn't free either right?
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quote: Originally posted by 86hatchkid: quote: Originally posted by RAP66: We did FHA 3% down, it was easier in our situation to be able to buy our house. We carried the loan for 3yrs then refinanced to remove the PMI and get a slightly lower interest rate.
This is what I plan to do in the near future I also did the FHA 3% down.
What rate did you start at? Rates now are in the 3% range, very small room for a better rate in the future right? Unless they go to 2%, im not sure that's gonna happen anytime soon.
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to the original poster, i suggest you do a lot of reading on the pitfalls of home loans and understand very clearly the pros and cons going with the various types. it sounds like you're quite a ways from getting there. make a sound and analytic decision on which type of loan works for you since one plan that works for someone else may not necessarily work for you. some things to consider: -do not drain your bank account to make up the 20%. its more important to make sure you have enough reserves in your bank account to survive 6 months in case of an emergency(i.e lost job, injuries, etc). -pmi is not the end of the world if you choose to go conventional with less than 20% down or FHA. some FHA loans require 10 years of payment before the pmi is lifted even if on paper your projected equity is higher than 20% or whatever the threshold is. a refi will generally take care of this. -when presented with a nice rate, look at what the closing costs are especially points to buy down a rate(i.e ask the agent what the APR is and how that compares to rate as that will give you an idea of the cost to acquire the loan). if your short term goal is to eventually refi, dont pay down the interest rate if there are points involved or if you do, find out what the break even point is in terms of years vs other loans and find out what suites you best. ppl often make the mistake of paying exorbitant closing costs to acquire a more attractive lower rate without even realizing the cost and then end up refi'ing in a few years. thats wasted money.
keep in mind, closing costs for a home about 500k or more will run you around $10k but many times will be rolled into your principle if you cant fund it. if you're truly trying to reach 20%, factor in that $10k or whatever it is.
go on trulia and talk to several loan officers to get more information. believe me, the avg joe home buyer doesnt know jack shiet about this stuff even if theyve bought a few homes or have gone through the process. i probably learned the most by picking the brain of a loan broker i trusted and who eventually did 3 home loans for me. then again, the math and finance didnt scare me at all since its all stuff i understood.
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Move to Texas
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quote: Originally posted by TEXAS: Move to Texas
Why you don't even live there.
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quote: Originally posted by 5.t0es: quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: Well I have the 20% for the price of the home im looking for. The only thing that kinda questions me is that there is really like 80 to 100 bucks difference between 20% to 3.5% and in my mind I feel ether I keep keep most of my down and spend on upgrade
huh? your WRONG. tack on 200-300 a month for mortgage insurance plus your 80-100 extra principal...upwards of 400 a month
ya I agree, there is a huge difference between putting down 20% or 3.5%.
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quote: Originally posted by venomous99: to the original poster, i suggest you do a lot of reading on the pitfalls of home loans and understand very clearly the pros and cons going with the various types. it sounds like you're quite a ways from getting there. make a sound and analytic decision on which type of loan works for you since one plan that works for someone else may not necessarily work for you. some things to consider: -do not drain your bank account to make up the 20%. its more important to make sure you have enough reserves in your bank account to survive 6 months in case of an emergency(i.e lost job, injuries, etc). -pmi is not the end of the world if you choose to go conventional with less than 20% down or FHA. some FHA loans require 10 years of payment before the pmi is lifted even if on paper your projected equity is higher than 20% or whatever the threshold is. a refi will generally take care of this. -when presented with a nice rate, look at what the closing costs are especially points to buy down a rate(i.e ask the agent what the APR is and how that compares to rate as that will give you an idea of the cost to acquire the loan). if your short term goal is to eventually refi, dont pay down the interest rate if there are points involved or if you do, find out what the break even point is in terms of years vs other loans and find out what suites you best. ppl often make the mistake of paying exorbitant closing costs to acquire a more attractive lower rate without even realizing the cost and then end up refi'ing in a few years. thats wasted money.
keep in mind, closing costs for a home about 500k or more will run you around $10k but many times will be rolled into your principle if you cant fund it. if you're truly trying to reach 20%, factor in that $10k or whatever it is.
go on trulia and talk to several loan officers to get more information. believe me, the avg joe home buyer doesnt know jack shiet about this stuff even if theyve bought a few homes or have gone through the process. i probably learned the most by picking the brain of a loan broker i trusted and who eventually did 3 home loans for me. then again, the math and finance didnt scare me at all since its all stuff i understood.
thanks man I really appreciated. Yea I been talking to a few people already and trying to figured whats best for me. The reason I asked about FHA its because I didn't know much about it and reading or asking loan officers is not the same as asking people that have gone through it. I have the 20% and closing cost but who wouldn't want to keep more money on there saving for protection. So far the rate im getting is 4.25% with 20 percent down.
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quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: quote: Originally posted by venomous99: to the original poster, i suggest you do a lot of reading on the pitfalls of home loans and understand very clearly the pros and cons going with the various types. it sounds like you're quite a ways from getting there. make a sound and analytic decision on which type of loan works for you since one plan that works for someone else may not necessarily work for you. some things to consider: -do not drain your bank account to make up the 20%. its more important to make sure you have enough reserves in your bank account to survive 6 months in case of an emergency(i.e lost job, injuries, etc). -pmi is not the end of the world if you choose to go conventional with less than 20% down or FHA. some FHA loans require 10 years of payment before the pmi is lifted even if on paper your projected equity is higher than 20% or whatever the threshold is. a refi will generally take care of this. -when presented with a nice rate, look at what the closing costs are especially points to buy down a rate(i.e ask the agent what the APR is and how that compares to rate as that will give you an idea of the cost to acquire the loan). if your short term goal is to eventually refi, dont pay down the interest rate if there are points involved or if you do, find out what the break even point is in terms of years vs other loans and find out what suites you best. ppl often make the mistake of paying exorbitant closing costs to acquire a more attractive lower rate without even realizing the cost and then end up refi'ing in a few years. thats wasted money.
keep in mind, closing costs for a home about 500k or more will run you around $10k but many times will be rolled into your principle if you cant fund it. if you're truly trying to reach 20%, factor in that $10k or whatever it is.
go on trulia and talk to several loan officers to get more information. believe me, the avg joe home buyer doesnt know jack shiet about this stuff even if theyve bought a few homes or have gone through the process. i probably learned the most by picking the brain of a loan broker i trusted and who eventually did 3 home loans for me. then again, the math and finance didnt scare me at all since its all stuff i understood.
thanks man I really appreciated. Yea I been talking to a few people already and trying to figured whats best for me. The reason I asked about FHA its because I didn't know much about it and reading or asking loan officers is not the same as asking people that have gone through it. I have the 20% and closing cost but who wouldn't want to keep more money on there saving for protection. So far the rate im getting is 4.25% with 20 percent down.
Find a bank or broker who will price match, then go to quickenloans.com and pull up a quote.
http://www.aimloan.com/rates
Should be in the 3% range bruh, but you can't really lock until you find the house.
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quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: quote: Originally posted by venomous99: to the original poster, i suggest you do a lot of reading on the pitfalls of home loans and understand very clearly the pros and cons going with the various types. it sounds like you're quite a ways from getting there. make a sound and analytic decision on which type of loan works for you since one plan that works for someone else may not necessarily work for you. some things to consider: -do not drain your bank account to make up the 20%. its more important to make sure you have enough reserves in your bank account to survive 6 months in case of an emergency(i.e lost job, injuries, etc). -pmi is not the end of the world if you choose to go conventional with less than 20% down or FHA. some FHA loans require 10 years of payment before the pmi is lifted even if on paper your projected equity is higher than 20% or whatever the threshold is. a refi will generally take care of this. -when presented with a nice rate, look at what the closing costs are especially points to buy down a rate(i.e ask the agent what the APR is and how that compares to rate as that will give you an idea of the cost to acquire the loan). if your short term goal is to eventually refi, dont pay down the interest rate if there are points involved or if you do, find out what the break even point is in terms of years vs other loans and find out what suites you best. ppl often make the mistake of paying exorbitant closing costs to acquire a more attractive lower rate without even realizing the cost and then end up refi'ing in a few years. thats wasted money.
keep in mind, closing costs for a home about 500k or more will run you around $10k but many times will be rolled into your principle if you cant fund it. if you're truly trying to reach 20%, factor in that $10k or whatever it is.
go on trulia and talk to several loan officers to get more information. believe me, the avg joe home buyer doesnt know jack shiet about this stuff even if theyve bought a few homes or have gone through the process. i probably learned the most by picking the brain of a loan broker i trusted and who eventually did 3 home loans for me. then again, the math and finance didnt scare me at all since its all stuff i understood.
thanks man I really appreciated. Yea I been talking to a few people already and trying to figured whats best for me. The reason I asked about FHA its because I didn't know much about it and reading or asking loan officers is not the same as asking people that have gone through it. I have the 20% and closing cost but who wouldn't want to keep more money on there saving for protection. So far the rate im getting is 4.25% with 20 percent down.
whats the APR? dont confuse rate w/ APR. they are different in most cases especially if points are paid upfront. remember just cuz someone is offering you 2.5% that doesnt necessarily mean its better than 4%. it depends on your goals w/ the loan and your situation.
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quote: Originally posted by venomous99: quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: quote: Originally posted by venomous99: to the original poster, i suggest you do a lot of reading on the pitfalls of home loans and understand very clearly the pros and cons going with the various types. it sounds like you're quite a ways from getting there. make a sound and analytic decision on which type of loan works for you since one plan that works for someone else may not necessarily work for you. some things to consider: -do not drain your bank account to make up the 20%. its more important to make sure you have enough reserves in your bank account to survive 6 months in case of an emergency(i.e lost job, injuries, etc). -pmi is not the end of the world if you choose to go conventional with less than 20% down or FHA. some FHA loans require 10 years of payment before the pmi is lifted even if on paper your projected equity is higher than 20% or whatever the threshold is. a refi will generally take care of this. -when presented with a nice rate, look at what the closing costs are especially points to buy down a rate(i.e ask the agent what the APR is and how that compares to rate as that will give you an idea of the cost to acquire the loan). if your short term goal is to eventually refi, dont pay down the interest rate if there are points involved or if you do, find out what the break even point is in terms of years vs other loans and find out what suites you best. ppl often make the mistake of paying exorbitant closing costs to acquire a more attractive lower rate without even realizing the cost and then end up refi'ing in a few years. thats wasted money.
keep in mind, closing costs for a home about 500k or more will run you around $10k but many times will be rolled into your principle if you cant fund it. if you're truly trying to reach 20%, factor in that $10k or whatever it is.
go on trulia and talk to several loan officers to get more information. believe me, the avg joe home buyer doesnt know jack shiet about this stuff even if theyve bought a few homes or have gone through the process. i probably learned the most by picking the brain of a loan broker i trusted and who eventually did 3 home loans for me. then again, the math and finance didnt scare me at all since its all stuff i understood.
thanks man I really appreciated. Yea I been talking to a few people already and trying to figured whats best for me. The reason I asked about FHA its because I didn't know much about it and reading or asking loan officers is not the same as asking people that have gone through it. I have the 20% and closing cost but who wouldn't want to keep more money on there saving for protection. So far the rate im getting is 4.25% with 20 percent down.
whats the APR? dont confuse rate w/ APR. they are different in most cases especially if points are paid upfront. remember just cuz someone is offering you 2.5% that doesnt necessarily mean its better than 4%. it depends on your goals w/ the loan and your situation.
huh now thata something I didn't know. Glad have u guys to help me with this. I will double check on the apr. This whole time I been more worried about looking for the right home for my fam. I though I had everything ready with my credit being great good down payment and all but there is a lot to look into. So thanks so much on all this info. One thing for sure though I dont jump into anytype of deals until I really feel good about it.
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quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: quote: Originally posted by venomous99: quote: Originally posted by losbadgts: quote: Originally posted by venomous99: to the original poster, i suggest you do a lot of reading on the pitfalls of home loans and understand very clearly the pros and cons going with the various types. it sounds like you're quite a ways from getting there. make a sound and analytic decision on which type of loan works for you since one plan that works for someone else may not necessarily work for you. some things to consider: -do not drain your bank account to make up the 20%. its more important to make sure you have enough reserves in your bank account to survive 6 months in case of an emergency(i.e lost job, injuries, etc). -pmi is not the end of the world if you choose to go conventional with less than 20% down or FHA. some FHA loans require 10 years of payment before the pmi is lifted even if on paper your projected equity is higher than 20% or whatever the threshold is. a refi will generally take care of this. -when presented with a nice rate, look at what the closing costs are especially points to buy down a rate(i.e ask the agent what the APR is and how that compares to rate as that will give you an idea of the cost to acquire the loan). if your short term goal is to eventually refi, dont pay down the interest rate if there are points involved or if you do, find out what the break even point is in terms of years vs other loans and find out what suites you best. ppl often make the mistake of paying exorbitant closing costs to acquire a more attractive lower rate without even realizing the cost and then end up refi'ing in a few years. thats wasted money.
keep in mind, closing costs for a home about 500k or more will run you around $10k but many times will be rolled into your principle if you cant fund it. if you're truly trying to reach 20%, factor in that $10k or whatever it is.
go on trulia and talk to several loan officers to get more information. believe me, the avg joe home buyer doesnt know jack shiet about this stuff even if theyve bought a few homes or have gone through the process. i probably learned the most by picking the brain of a loan broker i trusted and who eventually did 3 home loans for me. then again, the math and finance didnt scare me at all since its all stuff i understood.
thanks man I really appreciated. Yea I been talking to a few people already and trying to figured whats best for me. The reason I asked about FHA its because I didn't know much about it and reading or asking loan officers is not the same as asking people that have gone through it. I have the 20% and closing cost but who wouldn't want to keep more money on there saving for protection. So far the rate im getting is 4.25% with 20 percent down.
whats the APR? dont confuse rate w/ APR. they are different in most cases especially if points are paid upfront. remember just cuz someone is offering you 2.5% that doesnt necessarily mean its better than 4%. it depends on your goals w/ the loan and your situation.
huh now thata something I didn't know. Glad have u guys to help me with this. I will double check on the apr. This whole time I been more worried about looking for the right home for my fam. I though I had everything ready with my credit being great good down payment and all but there is a lot to look into. So thanks so much on all this info. One thing for sure though I dont jump into anytype of deals until I really feel good about it.
the APR helps u compare loans vs just rate since there are other cost variables you need to factor in like points(if applicable) that get tacked onto your closing cost. a buddy of mine got a killer rate of 2.5% 2 years ago but when i looked more into his deal, he didnt realize the APR was like 4% since he was paying like 6 points or something like that. the rate sounds good and all only if you decide to go long term but if you're like many that choose to refi in less than 5 years, you're probably better off taking a higher rate w/ 0 points. again, do the calculation on how many years you'll break even where that loan starts to become favorable over others. remember, a 3.5% loan doesnt necessarily mean its better than a 4% loan.....just depends on your situation and the terms of the loan
1 point = 1% of your mortgage loan=.25% of interest rate deduction. example: $400k loan to buy down .5% of rate equates to 2 points = $8k of added loan cost. [ 2014-10-29, 08:45 AM: Message edited by: venomous99 ]
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