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So just got approved. And been looking at some homes. But what do you guys recommended. FHA or conventional?

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Conventional, FHA pmi for life bruh

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Originally posted by 135.0:
Conventional, FHA pmi for life bruh

Been fighting with my wife about PMI and FHA Loans. I personally only want do a traditional loan but everyone's circumstances are different. If you manage to buy a home at it's lowest point a few years ago, you most likely have over 20% equity into your home.

Lastly don't let the loan officer talk you into having them pay off your PMI and adjusting your interest rate in the process. Cause now your stuck paying more over the life of the loan opposed to the time it takes to acquire 20% equity.

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Originally posted by losbadgts:
So just got approved. And been looking at some homes. But what do you guys recommended. FHA or conventional?

Conventional. I would only do tha if youre sure you are only going to be in that house for a few years. Sell get equity and put 20% down on the next one.

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Originally posted by losbadgts:
So just got approved. And been looking at some homes. But what do you guys recommended. FHA or conventional?

Conventional. I would only do tha if youre sure you are only going to be in that house for a few years. Sell get equity and put 20% down on the next one.
Thats my goal. Since im buying a home about 50 minutes away from work.

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3.5% vs 5% isn't shit more down. FHA charges twice in PMI upfront which is almost 2% or maybe more of the loan amount which they tack on no to the loan. Plus the monthly which is higher than conventional, and when you go pay the fucker off they charge a full months worth extra if you don't pay it off by the 1st of the month. You'll get more money back from a conventional loan 10x out of 10x if you plan on upgrading later. Just don't pay any points and take a higher rate vs lower rate if that's the case. FHA is for suckers
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Unless the house is a fixer then FHA gotta few different options. But you pay

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you can always do the fha if you do not have the extra cash down. Now fha MIP (monthly ins premium) stays on for the life of the loan, You can always hope the market goes up and rates stay similar and refinance out to a conventional at a later date.

fha cons: mip for life, expensive appraisal, strict home criteria,upfront costs. The mip can add upwards of 300 a month to your payment

fha pros: 3.5 down

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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by losbadgts:
So just got approved. And been looking at some homes. But what do you guys recommended. FHA or conventional?

Conventional. I would only do tha if youre sure you are only going to be in that house for a few years. Sell get equity and put 20% down on the next one.
Then again this is how many people lost thier homes when the market bubble went pop!!

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very simple, if you have the cash required to get into a non FHA loan go that route.
why? as already mentioned, lower rates, no pmi, way more loan options, relatively easier loan closing.

the reality is most folks dont have 20% cash down(~100k plus on an avg bay area home) so theyre left with limited options..FHA or just rent.

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Originally posted by venomous99:
very simple, if you have the cash required to get into a non FHA loan go that route.
why? as already mentioned, lower rates, no pmi, way more loan options, relatively easier loan closing.

the reality is most folks dont have 20% cash down(~100k plus on an avg bay area home) so theyre left with limited options..FHA or just rent.

Conventional requires 5% down not 20% anymore... 5% vs 3.5% is a no brainer just wait a month or two to save up for a better option.

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quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
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Originally posted by venomous99:
very simple, if you have the cash required to get into a non FHA loan go that route.
why? as already mentioned, lower rates, no pmi, way more loan options, relatively easier loan closing.

the reality is most folks dont have 20% cash down(~100k plus on an avg bay area home) so theyre left with limited options..FHA or just rent.

Conventional requires 5% down not 20% anymore... 5% vs 3.5% is a no brainer just wait a month or two to save up for a better option.
yeah if thats the case itll come down to what gets u the better rate as one will be looking at pmi regardless. that said, i wouldnt let PMI stop you from buying especially if the market is down(which it isnt now) as rise in home value can get u back to above the equity level for no PMI on a refi. those that bought in 2012 are seeing lots of benefits from a down market that now has jumped 20-30% since then...that means those w/ PMI back then likely could refi without needing PMI.

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Thanks guys great info.

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Both conv and FHA has pmi but the fha pmi is for as long as you own the loan, conventional you can get an appraisal and remove pmi later without a new refi. A lot of brokers are convincing people to go FHA because they know they have to redo/refi the loan later to get rid of the PMI. More refis equals more commissions for them!
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If you have the money, than do a 30 year fix. If you don't than your only option is an FHA. Just remember on an FHA loan you will pay insurance on the loan @125-200$ a month. On the same loan, you will not pay that if you put 20% down.

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quote:
Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by losbadgts:
So just got approved. And been looking at some homes. But what do you guys recommended. FHA or conventional?

Conventional. I would only do tha if youre sure you are only going to be in that house for a few years. Sell get equity and put 20% down on the next one.
This is a good idea, but by the time you have equity in your home, it means the house prices have gone up. This theory doesn't really work. You should never buy a home with the idea of "oh I'll sell it in a few years". What the value drops? This is how many people got into trouble.
I have two rental properties and I'm hoping to buy another one next year. I have plenty of equity in either houses to refinance and pull money out for a down payment, but Its just a bad idea IMO. I don't recommend this to anyone.

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put 20% down with a conventional loan and you wont ever have to worry about pmi (not mip as someone called it)

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Pay cash an own it outright
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Pay cash an own it outright

lika chinese peoprrr

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pay cash...put down 20%...easier said than done if youre tryign to buy in the bay area. shiet...is this is the same crowd trying to figure financing for a 30year old fox?

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quote:
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pay cash...put down 20%...easier said than done if youre tryign to buy in the bay area. shiet...is this is the same crowd trying to figure financing for a 30year old fox?

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haha, maybe ed650 will co sign for some of these guys on their house.

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pay cash...put down 20%...easier said than done if youre tryign to buy in the bay area. shiet...is this is the same crowd trying to figure financing for a 30year old fox?

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It comes down to money management some are better thing others at it.
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Pay cash an own it outright

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Or like old white people money.

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I got lucky and put 20% down on a 15 year loan. Avoid that PMI at all costs!!

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