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Well I've started. Big thanks to John91Coupe for helping pull the motor today. Found lots of gold metal flake in the intake valley [Frown] Hoping the cam is ok, if not i might go to a hydraulic roller cam.
Going to get the heads ported and polished, putting a standard volume standard pressure oil pump in, and have the cam degreed.
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Lookin Good [patriot]

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looks clean man. cant wait to have a big block myself haha
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Nice lift , is that at a shop or a residential garage ?
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Looks awesome as usual.
Good luck with all that. [patriot]

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Well, you made that engine pull look easy! [Smile] Good luck on the tear down.
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Glad to see you're fixing it fast, I regret letting my car sit. Besides that is WAY to nice to be sitting lol. What machine shop are you going to?

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Why a standard volume standard pressure pump? I would measure all your bearings now and see what they are at. I know there will be wear but should give you some kind off idea what clearance was. I would still stick with a hv pump but not a hp.

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I am going to have Turbo50 rebuild my motor.

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Good luck with the rebuild Dana.

I think we should all try and guess what went wrong ( It's something every forum is know to do LOL) .... I'm gonna guess it was a bad cam bearing?

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Also i would like to add i opened up my oil filter from when i broke in the motor and it was perfectly clean so i definitely spun the bearing at the drag strip.

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quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Good luck with the rebuild Dana.

I think we should all try and guess what went wrong ( It's something every forum is know to do LOL) .... I'm gonna guess it was a bad cam bearing?

Cam looked good from the little holes, has some wear but looked like normal wear to me.
When i find out what went wrong i will make another thread letting people guess [Smile] I am hoping there is a definite answer though. Like how would i know if i used too light of oil, or sucked my pan dry or something like that.

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What kind of pan do you run? And what cylinder did you spin a bearing on?

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quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
What kind of pan do you run? And what cylinder did you spin a bearing on?

Don't know yet, haven't pulled the pan but its either the 8 or the 4, i heard those are the most likely bearings to spin first.
I am running a canton oil pan.
I am gonna go to a standard oil pump because i am thinking i might have sucked the pan dry on my last run but i am more leaning to not having the correct thickness of oil in the motor. The new oil pump i got is a melling police cruiser pump

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I was asking about the pan because if you have a front sump pan without a baffle the hard g forces at the track force oil out of the front sump. Also with the stroke you have I think a windage tray and crank scraper are neccesary If you don't have it already. And I don't know what oil you run but 20-50 should be it with a high zinc content

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quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
I was asking about the pan because if you have a front sump pan without a baffle the hard g forces at the track force oil out of the front sump. Also with the stroke you have I think a windage tray and crank scraper are neccesary If you don't have it already. And I don't know what oil you run but 20-50 should be it with a high zinc content

It has a windage tray, and i believe is baffled but i can't remember off the top of my head right now. i was running 10w30 [Frown]

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I think your hunch was right then probably no mechanical failure just oil. I remember on my dads big block years ago he was running some thinner oil cause someone had said that it frees up some horsepower and what not well after a few runs and the tempature outside the motor lost oil pressure. Well it was the damn oil it got so hot and thinned out. Older big blocks and small blocks aren't like mod motors and ls engines that get away with 5-30 cause there clearances are so tight and there oil systems are a lot better than an older block

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quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
I think your hunch was right then probably no mechanical failure just oil. I remember on my dads big block years ago he was running some thinner oil cause someone had said that it frees up some horsepower and what not well after a few runs and the tempature outside the motor lost oil pressure. Well it was the damn oil it got so hot and thinned out. Older big blocks and small blocks aren't like mod motors and ls engines that get away with 5-30 cause there clearances are so tight and there oil systems are a lot better than an older block

Yeah i heard 15w40 or 15w50 is good.

[ December 29, 2011, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: WildFire532FB ]

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I think diesel oil just protects from fuel contamanents. I just run 20-50 with added zinc. That's what my buddy uses who runs a 800ci sonnys motor and so do a lot of top sportsman guys I know. Like the pennzoil with zinc or the Kendall with zinc all that royal purple and redline shit is all hoopla.

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So my questions
1) did you call original builder
2) any hints as to reason
3) going any bigger?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Lucky:
So my questions
1) did you call original builder
2) any hints as to reason
3) going any bigger?

No call to original builder, after i got the motor i called and emailed them for a couple of questions and they never returned my calls or emails so forget them.
No hints that i can read.
Just the porting and polishing job and having the cam degreed i think it was just set to stock before.

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No replies for questions after initial build?!? Red flag. Seems builder coulda Fd you [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
What kind of pan do you run? And what cylinder did you spin a bearing on?

Don't know yet, haven't pulled the pan but its either the 8 or the 4, i heard those are the most likely bearings to spin first.
I am running a canton oil pan.
I am gonna go to a standard oil pump because i am thinking i might have sucked the pan dry on my last run but i am more leaning to not having the correct thickness of oil in the motor. The new oil pump i got is a melling police cruiser pump

I was thinking you might have sucked the pan dry too. How many quarts does the pan hold?

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quote:
Originally posted by wilit:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
What kind of pan do you run? And what cylinder did you spin a bearing on?

Don't know yet, haven't pulled the pan but its either the 8 or the 4, i heard those are the most likely bearings to spin first.
I am running a canton oil pan.
I am gonna go to a standard oil pump because i am thinking i might have sucked the pan dry on my last run but i am more leaning to not having the correct thickness of oil in the motor. The new oil pump i got is a melling police cruiser pump

I was thinking you might have sucked the pan dry too. How many quarts does the pan hold?
7 quarts of oil

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Lucky:
No replies for questions after initial build?!? Red flag. Seems builder coulda Fd you [Frown]

Yeah and didn't recieve a build sheet either. Motor ran strong though for street use. Could have been my bad with the oil thickness though. Not blaming anyone.

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