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This is not aimed at anyone, just small things I learned and change about myself to get ahead.
Do police really use profiling?
As a young Mexican growing up in East San Jose, when I was 17~20 I got pulled over probably 15 times. I got a ticket 3 of those times. Was it profiling? At the time I certainly would have said yes but, it definitely wasn’t. It was police doing an awesome job. If you fit the profile you will be a suspect. You don’t want to be profiled don’t dress, walk, talk, or drive a car that begs to be pulled over.
In CA a gang member is someone who shares a color or a symbol, so if you are wearing clothes that look like something a gang member might wear don’t yell discrimination or it’s because I’m Mexican, black, Asian, ect…. It is likely your hat, belt, bandana, shoes, or one color outfit.
You walk with a gangster lean or like you’re the biggest person on earth, you are now a suspect because many peace officers know that’s the gangster walk.
You talk to a peace officer like you are speaking to one of your “homies” bro…. You will certainly be profiled. I use slang words too, but there is a time and place for everything and in front of a peace officer, judge, or a job interview are not the right time.
You drive a nice 5.0? Well, be aware that tinted windows in the driver/passenger side are an excuse for any officer to pull you over regardless of how virtuous and innocent you are. Driving erratically and using off road x-pipes are going make you subject to being pulled over too. What about broken lights and missing front plates. If you get pulled over it is not racial profiling it’s your car or the way you look.
It’s not racial profiling, stop blaming your woes on your race. Embrace your race and stop saying it handicaps you.
If you think you are being singled out because of your race you need to re-evaluate or reinvent yourself to appear more fruitful because you live in a democratic society where you will be judged by the way you carry yourself. This includes dress, speak, and behave. This is the advice I would give teenagers on probation when I taught juvenile law for my internship. Out of a class of 15 in the beginning of the semester 6 were left and the majority went back to formal juvenile hall. This is change you can believe in.
Comments are welcomed!
[ July 30, 2009, 07:53 PM: Message edited by: Bigchelis ]
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Originally posted by Bigchelis:
This is not aimed at anyone, just small things I learned and change about myself to get ahead.
Do police really use profiling?
As a young Mexican growing up in East San Jose, when I was 17~20 I got pulled over probably 15 times. I got a ticket 3 of those times. Was it profiling? At the time I certainly would have said yes but, it definitely wasn’t. It was police doing an awesome job. If you fit the profile you will be a suspect. You don’t want to be profiled don’t dress, walk, talk, or drive a car that begs to be pulled over.
In CA a gang member is someone who shares a color or a symbol, so if you are wearing clothes that look like something a gang member might wear don’t yell discrimination or it’s because I’m Mexican, black, Asian, ect…. It is likely your hat, belt, bandana, shoes, or one color outfit.
You walk with a gangster lean or like you’re the biggest person on earth, you are now a suspect because many peace officers know that’s the gangster walk.
You talk to a peace officer like you are speaking to one of your “homies” bro…. You will certainly be profiled. I use slang words too, but there is a time and place for everything and in front of a peace officer, judge, or a job interview are not the right time.
You drive a nice 5.0? Well, be aware that tinted windows in the driver/passenger side are an excuse for any officer to pull you over regardless of how virtuous and innocent you are. Driving erratically and using off road x-pipes are going make you subject to being pulled over too. What about broken lights and missing front plates. If you get pulled over it is not racial profiling it’s your car or the way you look.
It’s not racial profiling, stop blaming your woes on your race. Embrace your race and stop saying it handicaps you.
If you think you are being singled out because of your race you need to re-evaluate or reinvent yourself to appear more fruitful in our democratic society where you will be judged by the way you carry yourself. This includes dress, speak, and behave. This is the advice I would give teenagers on probation when I taught juvenile law for my internship. Out of a class of 15 in the beginning of the semester 6 were left and the majority went back to formal juvenile hall. This is change you can believe in.
Comments are welcomed!
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wow so much I wanna say, but this thread will end up with slurs being hurled and names being called.
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Originally posted by Bigchelis:
This is not aimed at anyone, just small things I learned and change about myself to get ahead.
Do police really use profiling?
As a young Mexican growing up in East San Jose, when I was 17~20 I got pulled over probably 15 times. I got a ticket 3 of those times. Was it profiling? At the time I certainly would have said yes but, it definitely wasn’t. It was police doing an awesome job. If you fit the profile you will be a suspect. You don’t want to be profiled don’t dress, walk, talk, or drive a car that begs to be pulled over.
In CA a gang member is someone who shares a color or a symbol, so if you are wearing clothes that look like something a gang member might wear don’t yell discrimination or it’s because I’m Mexican, black, Asian, ect…. It is likely your hat, belt, bandana, shoes, or one color outfit.
You walk with a gangster lean or like you’re the biggest person on earth, you are now a suspect because many peace officers know that’s the gangster walk.
You talk to a peace officer like you are speaking to one of your “homies” bro…. You will certainly be profiled. I use slang words too, but there is a time and place for everything and in front of a peace officer, judge, or a job interview are not the right time.
You drive a nice 5.0? Well, be aware that tinted windows in the driver/passenger side are an excuse for any officer to pull you over regardless of how virtuous and innocent you are. Driving erratically and using off road x-pipes are going make you subject to being pulled over too. What about broken lights and missing front plates. If you get pulled over it is not racial profiling it’s your car or the way you look.
It’s not racial profiling, stop blaming your woes on your race. Embrace your race and stop saying it handicaps you.
If you think you are being singled out because of your race you need to re-evaluate or reinvent yourself to appear more fruitful because you live in a democratic society where you will be judged by the way you carry yourself. This includes dress, speak, and behave. This is the advice I would give teenagers on probation when I taught juvenile law for my internship. Out of a class of 15 in the beginning of the semester 6 were left and the majority went back to formal juvenile hall. This is change you can believe in.
Comments are welcomed!
wow all i can say is, you have definitely been brain washed in to believing that cops are above the law!
see what i mean guys, this is the kinda shit that the po pos teach in the training!
this guy is like woa!
punk ass crooked ass cop!!!!
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wow so much I wanna say, but this thread will end up with slurs being hurled and names being called.
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Thats right. Either become part of the dominant group and succome to their societal norms or you deserved to be pulled over and singled out. Forget about your socio economic, cultural or geographic factors that make you more prone to certain ways of dress or talk. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) profiling is profiling regardless if its based on your skin color, dress or car u drive.
One of the things I learned in my CJ classes is that probable cause and reasonable suspicion to stop, detain, question or arrest someone is not based on physical discriptors alone. A good officer who doesn't want to be in court constantly getting sued will conduct his/her police work in a manner that shows there was more for a stop than "baggy clothes" or "he was driving a 5.0". I hope every officer holds themselves to a higher standard than the "profiling" you described. I know I will ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Originally posted by Bigchelis:
Do police really use profiling?
If you fit the profile you will be a suspect. You don’t want to be profiled don’t dress, walk, talk, or drive a car that begs to be pulled over.
yes they do! suspect of what, minding my own business? so wait what your saying is, my U.S.A. given right to express my self will be violated because some board ass cop just feels the need to hastle me and hes gunna use one of those lame ass excusses?
In CA a gang member is someone who shares a color or a symbol, so if you are wearing clothes that look like something a gang member might wear don’t yell discrimination or it’s because I’m Mexican, black, Asian, ect…. It is likely your hat, belt, bandana, shoes, or one color outfit.
sooooooooooooo if its something that a cop would never do then im in the rong basically?
the colors of my clothes dont make me a gang member, where do you get your info from.......1980?
You walk with a gangster lean or like you’re the biggest person on earth, you are now a suspect because many peace officers know that’s the gangster walk.
so if i walk with confidence (commonly misunderstood as the tuffest guy on the block walk) im a suspect? a suspect to what...........stealing peoples confidence?
You talk to a peace officer like you are speaking to one of your “homies” bro…. You will certainly be profiled. I use slang words too, but there is a time and place for everything and in front of a peace officer, judge, or a job interview are not the right time.
you know what, im never gunna give respect to some pig that thinks he can talk to me any way he wants because of a peice of tin!
they can profile my language any time they want, but know this im never talking to a PUNK like hes my homie!
If you get pulled over it is not racial profiling it’s your car or the way you look.
may not be racial but its definitely a form of profiling!
If you think you are being singled out because of your race you need to re-evaluate or reinvent yourself to appear more fruitful because you live in a democratic society where you will be judged by the way you carry yourself. This includes dress, speak, and behave.
what democratic society do you live in? basicaly your a ratard! you dont have a clue wtf youre talking about! why did you even post this? you have now just labeld your self as the cop on cafords that is just here to catch people up! take your bullshit elseware you SNITCH!
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Originally posted by fr5.0:
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Originally posted by Bigchelis:
Do police really use profiling?
If you fit the profile you will be a suspect. You don’t want to be profiled don’t dress, walk, talk, or drive a car that begs to be pulled over.
yes they do! suspect of what, minding my own business? so wait what your saying is, my U.S.A. given right to express my self will be violated because some board ass cop just feels the need to hastle me and hes gunna use one of those lame ass excusses?
In CA a gang member is someone who shares a color or a symbol, so if you are wearing clothes that look like something a gang member might wear don’t yell discrimination or it’s because I’m Mexican, black, Asian, ect…. It is likely your hat, belt, bandana, shoes, or one color outfit.
sooooooooooooo if its something that a cop would never do then im in the rong basically?
the colors of my clothes dont make me a gang member, where do you get your info from.......1980?
You walk with a gangster lean or like you’re the biggest person on earth, you are now a suspect because many peace officers know that’s the gangster walk.
so if i walk with confidence (commonly misunderstood as the tuffest guy on the block walk) im a suspect? a suspect to what...........stealing peoples confidence?
You talk to a peace officer like you are speaking to one of your “homies” bro…. You will certainly be profiled. I use slang words too, but there is a time and place for everything and in front of a peace officer, judge, or a job interview are not the right time.
you know what, im never gunna give respect to some pig that thinks he can talk to me any way he wants because of a peice of tin!
they can profile my language any time they want, but know this im never talking to a PUNK like hes my homie!
If you get pulled over it is not racial profiling it’s your car or the way you look.
may not be racial but its definitely a form of profiling!
If you think you are being singled out because of your race you need to re-evaluate or reinvent yourself to appear more fruitful because you live in a democratic society where you will be judged by the way you carry yourself. This includes dress, speak, and behave.
what democratic society do you live in? basicaly your a ratard! you dont have a clue wtf youre talking about! why did you even post this? you have now just labeld your self as the cop on cafords that is just here to catch people up! take your bullshit elseware you SNITCH!
WOW I agree 100% w/fr5.0
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I agree with fr.50 ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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I am not a peace officer, but work in a good place for now (Cisco Systems). I do plan on going back to school for my teaching credentials or an MS in Justice Studies...Scary
I knew many would think what I wrote is something a sell out or a cop would think. The truth is racial profiling is needed. Yeah, I said it. Suspects are targeted when they meet the profile of someone they are looking for otherwise police officers would be like headless chickens.
I never said change who you are, just who you are depending on the setting. When I would go take notes in court for certain courses the people that you see in line to get in are often times dressed down. I would see people in sweats or in tall tees waiting in line then appear in front of a Judge for a criminal judgement (not a good idea). I listen to my Chalino Sanchez and use street talk, but like I said time and place for everything. Some people just expect society to adapt to how they are, when you are part of a society not the other way around. So, If I adjust my behavior and manorisms depending on the enviornment then I am a happy dumbass, ignorant, sell out.....
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Originally posted by Bigchelis:
I am not a peace officer, but work in a good place for now (Cisco Systems). I do plan on going back to school for my teaching credentials or an MS in Justice Studies...Scary
I knew many would think what I wrote is something a sell out or a cop would think. The truth is racial profiling is needed. Yeah, I said it. Suspects are targeted when they meet the profile of someone they are looking for otherwise police officers would be like headless chickens.
I never said change who you are, just who you are depending on the setting. When I would go take notes in court for certain courses the people that you see in line to get in are often times dressed down. I would see people in sweats or in tall tees waiting in line then appear in front of a Judge for a criminal judgement (not a good idea). I listen to my Chalino Sanchez and use street talk, but like I said time and place for everything. Some people just expect society to adapt to how they are, when you are part of a society not the other way around. So, If I adjust my behavior and manorisms depending on the enviornment then I am a happy dumbass, ignorant, sell out.....
Regards,
bigchelis
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I agree with kelly I mean fr.50
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That was the most intelligent phrase I have ever heard. ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
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Originally posted by Bigjerry916:
I agree with kelly I mean fr.50
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That was the most intelligent phrase I have ever heard.
why because he knows my name?
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Originally posted by Bigchelis:
The truth is racial profiling is needed. Yeah, I said it. Suspects are targeted when they meet the profile of someone they are looking for otherwise police officers would be like headless chickens.
ummmmmmmmm wtf i guess i didnt see this the first time!!!!
N8 is gunna love this!
you are F#$KING ignorent!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Bigchelis:
The truth is racial profiling is needed. Yeah, I said it. Suspects are targeted when they meet the profile of someone they are looking for otherwise police officers would be like headless chickens.
ummmmmmmmm wtf i guess i didnt see this the first time!!!!
N8 is gunna love this!
you are F#$KING ignorent!!!!!!!!!
N8 is staying the hell out of this one.
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Originally posted by N8:
wow so much I wanna say, but this thread will end up with slurs being hurled and names being called.
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for those of you that wont say anything, i only got one thing to say to yall
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Racial profiling or not, if you act a fool at the wrong place at the wrong time, you deserve to get stopped by the cops. Only dumbasses would continue to act like thugs in front of the cops...and these types of people really aren't needed in our society.
I'm not siding with bigchellis or fr5.0 but I'm just stating my point
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Originally posted by Bigchelis:
This is not aimed at anyone, just small things I learned and change about myself to get ahead.
Do police really use profiling?
As a young Mexican growing up in East San Jose, when I was 17~20 I got pulled over probably 15 times. I got a ticket 3 of those times. Was it profiling? At the time I certainly would have said yes but, it definitely wasn’t. It was police doing an awesome job. If you fit the profile you will be a suspect. You don’t want to be profiled don’t dress, walk, talk, or drive a car that begs to be pulled over.
In CA a gang member is someone who shares a color or a symbol, so if you are wearing clothes that look like something a gang member might wear don’t yell discrimination or it’s because I’m Mexican, black, Asian, ect…. It is likely your hat, belt, bandana, shoes, or one color outfit.
You walk with a gangster lean or like you’re the biggest person on earth, you are now a suspect because many peace officers know that’s the gangster walk.
You talk to a peace officer like you are speaking to one of your “homies” bro…. You will certainly be profiled. I use slang words too, but there is a time and place for everything and in front of a peace officer, judge, or a job interview are not the right time.
You drive a nice 5.0? Well, be aware that tinted windows in the driver/passenger side are an excuse for any officer to pull you over regardless of how virtuous and innocent you are. Driving erratically and using off road x-pipes are going make you subject to being pulled over too. What about broken lights and missing front plates. If you get pulled over it is not racial profiling it’s your car or the way you look.
It’s not racial profiling, stop blaming your woes on your race. Embrace your race and stop saying it handicaps you.
If you think you are being singled out because of your race you need to re-evaluate or reinvent yourself to appear more fruitful because you live in a democratic society where you will be judged by the way you carry yourself. This includes dress, speak, and behave. This is the advice I would give teenagers on probation when I taught juvenile law for my internship. Out of a class of 15 in the beginning of the semester 6 were left and the majority went back to formal juvenile hall. This is change you can believe in.
Comments are welcomed!
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Just remember.... Every trafic stop, could be his last. Cops know this by they still pull you over for illegaly tinted windows, loud music, long tubes with no cats and one chambers .....
Just remember all the shit they deal with on a day to day basis. Not saying that some cops ( a small portion ) do some dirty stuff. The majority of them are good guys... I can tell you that the cops that were shot in Oakland doing a trafic stop... Led to the death of good cops... If you don't believe me look up each one of there bio's and some of you might feel differently
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F*K SJPD. I don't care what you say. Those fags over there are nothing but raciest ass cops. I just got pulled over thursday for not doing ANYTHING wrong(in a honda accord). They pulled me out search me and my car. When I asked why they were searching me they quickly said if I don't want to be searched to just tell them. So I told them to stop and they did. They then said they were sorry and they thought i was someone else. WOW!!!! They are gay! ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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