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if you gave two guys 7k budget and one guy had to buy a 4th gen camaro and the other had to buy a mustang fox who do u think would have the faster car?
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The 4th gen ....
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trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
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trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
2k for a healthy Fox ? Where ?? show me and I'll buy it rightnow. The only thing that 2k will get you is some beat ass, whooped east Oakland Swang machine. If that's what you consider healthy then you are the one who's trippin.
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considering an LS1 4th gen is at least a 1998, and a fox is at most a 1993, I think a $7k budget favors the older cheaper car, no?
How about take $15k budget, both parties have to buy a 99 model year, Camaro, Firdbird Z28 SS T/A doesn't matter, versus a 99 GT or Cobra, same mods... the F-body will be quicker, faster, make more power, handle better, and look uglier. Fact.
As for the handling;
-The SLA double A-arm front suspension is better than the modified MacPherson setup. Right? That's why Griggs and Agent 47 equipped cars are fast.
-The Torque Arm/Panhard rod setup is better than the 4-link. That's why Maximum Motorsports and plenty of other companies sell it, and Mustangs with it handle better.
The F-body has both these setups. Ergo, it has a better foundation on which to build up a proper suspension for less money. In stock form, it is floppy and weak due to the car being heavy, undersprung, and using thin stamped steel for suspension components. The 99 Mustang can outhandle a 99 Z28 precisely for those reasons. But where a Mustang owner has to invest $4,000+ to convert to a SLA setup, a F-body owner only needs to upgrade to tubular arms and better springs/shocks. The suspension design is superior. But in stock form, it leaves a lot on the table.
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This debate will never end haha. It can go on for years. I got love for the f-body's but I live foxbody, To each his own. I will always prefer track numbers over HP numbers. But that's just me I guess. Like I said this thread will continue to grow. As long as each person is happy with what they got that's all that matters. We should all just have another Chevy vs ford Grudge nite again ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
Lol at this. You can barely find a pos primered fox for 2k. You need atleast 3500 for a decent fox, need an upgraded trans, h/c/i, upgraded suspension to even match a stock fbody and you still won't have a cupholder for your drink
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Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
2k for a healthy Fox ? Where ?? show me and I'll buy it rightnow. The only thing that 2k will get you is some beat ass, whooped east Oakland Swang machine. If that's what you consider healthy then you are the one who's trippin.
ther are deals out there u gotta look
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I have a healthy fox
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trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
Lol at this. You can barely find a pos primered fox for 2k. You need atleast 3500 for a decent fox, need an upgraded trans, h/c/i, upgraded suspension to even match a stock fbody and you still won't have a cupholder for your drink
I payed 3500 for my 99 z28 with 109k miles, my boy just bought a 00 z28 for 3200 off a lady in her 50s with 130k!!!! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
Lol at this. You can barely find a pos primered fox for 2k. You need atleast 3500 for a decent fox, need an upgraded trans, h/c/i, upgraded suspension to even match a stock fbody and you still won't have a cupholder for your drink
I payed 3500 for my 99 z28 with 109k miles, my boy just bought a 00 z28 for 3200 off a lady in her 50s with 130k!!!!
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trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
Lol at this. You can barely find a pos primered fox for 2k. You need atleast 3500 for a decent fox, need an upgraded trans, h/c/i, upgraded suspension to even match a stock fbody and you still won't have a cupholder for your drink
I payed 3500 for my 99 z28 with 109k miles, my boy just bought a 00 z28 for 3200 off a lady in her 50s with 130k!!!!
I paid 3800 for my old mystic real camaro.. I've seen some good deals on them. I've seen them as low as 2500
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This thread BLOWS!!!!
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This thread BLOWS!!!!
Just so you know...... "REEKING" is not spelled correct, it goes like this "WREAKING" -the proper way to spell it.
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This thread BLOWS!!!!
it does. what is funny all the ls1 nut swingers on a ford site, don't have the balls to man up to a little primer pos fox! i guess they don't want to see how bad they get ran off on by a 430whp fox. there is a reason there was no 03 crapmaro/fireturd. ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
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This thread BLOWS!!!!
Just so you know...... "REEKING" is not spelled correct, it goes like this "WREAKING" -the proper way to spell it.
im sure he knows...look how he spelled kalifornia
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Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
Lol at this. You can barely find a pos primered fox for 2k. You need atleast 3500 for a decent fox, need an upgraded trans, h/c/i, upgraded suspension to even match a stock fbody and you still won't have a cupholder for your drink
I payed 3500 for my 99 z28 with 109k miles, my boy just bought a 00 z28 for 3200 off a lady in her 50s with 130k!!!!
I paid 3800 for my old mystic real camaro.. I've seen some good deals on them. I've seen them as low as 2500
And do you ever wonder why a healthy almighty ls1 camaro is worth less than a 20 year old mustang. And everyone in this thread repping camaro's, can you please start saying what you guys ran in the quarter mile. Maro's are so easy to get to fast, but 1hotls1 is running the maro game and he was running 11.4(wonder why) ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) [LIST] ![[dance]](graemlins/dance.gif)
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trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
Lol at this. You can barely find a pos prime red fox for 2k. You need atleast 3500 for a decent fox, need an upgraded trans, h/c/i, upgraded suspension to even match a stock fbody and you still won't have a cupholder for your drink
I payed 3500 for my 99 z28 with 109k miles, my boy just bought a 00 z28 for 3200 off a lady in her 50s with 130k!!!!
I paid 3800 for my old mystic real camaro.. I've seen some good deals on them. I've seen them as low as 2500
And do you ever wonder why a healthy almighty ls1 camaro is worth less than a 20 year old mustang. And everyone in this thread repping camaro's, can you please start saying what you guys ran in the quarter mile. Maro's are so easy to get to fast, but 1hotls1 is running the maro game and he was running 11.4(wonder why) [LIST]
The camaro is on the slide down, give it as much time as a fox and the prices will pick back up. Even more so being the fbody wasnt around as long as a mustsng. Its the same reason 03/04 Cobras are going to plummet, GT500s and the new 5.0s are going to drop it down, then it will rise in ten years.
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Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
trippin.
buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
Lol at this. You can barely find a pos prime red fox for 2k. You need atleast 3500 for a decent fox, need an upgraded trans, h/c/i, upgraded suspension to even match a stock fbody and you still won't have a cupholder for your drink
I payed 3500 for my 99 z28 with 109k miles, my boy just bought a 00 z28 for 3200 off a lady in her 50s with 130k!!!!
I paid 3800 for my old mystic real camaro.. I've seen some good deals on them. I've seen them as low as 2500
And do you ever wonder why a healthy almighty ls1 camaro is worth less than a 20 year old mustang. And everyone in this thread repping camaro's, can you please start saying what you guys ran in the quarter mile. Maro's are so easy to get to fast, but 1hotls1 is running the maro game and he was running 11.4(wonder why) [LIST]
The camaro is on the slide down, give it as much time as a fox and the prices will pick back up. Even more so being the fbody wasnt around as long as a mustsng. Its the same reason 03/04 Cobras are going to plummet, GT500s and the new 5.0s are going to drop it down, then it will rise in ten years.
Yea, thats why the 87-92 camaro's if you can find them running go for a whole 1000 dollars(good point) . Have you ever wondered why pick&pull has a couple rows full of camaro's and very few foxbodies? And once again can we start getting some track numbers of what all the people on here run or ran with there camaro's, I have asked that question a couple of times already and for some reason can't get a reply.
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buy a healthy fox for 2k, that leaves u with 5k
Lol at this. You can barely find a pos prime red fox for 2k. You need atleast 3500 for a decent fox, need an upgraded trans, h/c/i, upgraded suspension to even match a stock fbody and you still won't have a cupholder for your drink
I payed 3500 for my 99 z28 with 109k miles, my boy just bought a 00 z28 for 3200 off a lady in her 50s with 130k!!!!
I paid 3800 for my old mystic real camaro.. I've seen some good deals on them. I've seen them as low as 2500
And do you ever wonder why a healthy almighty ls1 camaro is worth less than a 20 year old mustang. And everyone in this thread repping camaro's, can you please start saying what you guys ran in the quarter mile. Maro's are so easy to get to fast, but 1hotls1 is running the maro game and he was running 11.4(wonder why) [LIST]
The camaro is on the slide down, give it as much time as a fox and the prices will pick back up. Even more so being the fbody wasnt around as long as a mustsng. Its the same reason 03/04 Cobras are going to plummet, GT500s and the new 5.0s are going to drop it down, then it will rise in ten years.
Yea, thats why the 87-92 camaro's if you can find them running go for a whole 1000 dollars(good point) . Have you ever wondered why pick&pull has a couple rows full of camaro's and very few foxbodies? And once again can we start getting some track numbers of what all the people on here run or ran with there camaro's, I have asked that question a couple of times already and for some reason can't get a reply.
13.6 107.9 with alot of wheel hop and bald tires. 2.6 60ft
that was my first time ever at the track and surprisingly, you don't hook at all! Third gear slams would spin me to the moon even at 60MPH, and from what i have read, 107 trap should be good for a mid 12 with the right driver and tires. All I had was cutouts and longtubes and 3.23 gears which sucked ass.
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Those of you that bash the fbody, have you ever driven one? Be honest.
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Call me an LS1 nut swinger if you want, it is a good motor that makes great power out of the box. Am I a fan of the Camaro? Besides the 67-73, I am definitely not a huge fan, but I'm just a realist & you cannot deny the potential... Yes, with a 5.0 fox body & $5k to work with, one could most definitely DEMOLISH a stock F-Body. You could build a healthy 347 with that amount of cash, & the platform is MUCH lighter. That is not a real world comparison though, because the cars aren't even from the same time period. Like I said earlier, put up a Mustang from the same time period (98-02) up against a stock F-Body, or give both owners the same budget to work with, & the F-Body will win every time!!!
It's funny all of y'all think I'm hating on Mustangs, or jockin the Camaro... I'm definitely NOT at all, I'm just speaking the truth & being real... I love my Fox Body, & I would NEVER take an F-Body over my 91 coupe... But I also love my 418rwhp LS6 powered Cadillac equally as much. Yeah it's not a very fast car because it weighs almost 4000lbs, but it isn't built for drag anyway. But, just remember, this power was made with nothing but a cam, full exhaust, drop in filter, & a tune. Show me a similar CI, fully stock pushrod SBF motor (stock heads/stock bottom end/stock intake manifold) that will make that kind of power with the same mods???? It WON'T happen...
I have my Fox for drag racing, because that is what they are made for. ..
I'm gonna try to be done with this thread now.... LOL
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