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Originally posted by 18x10roushes:
Ls1 motors the shit solid

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Whoa Whoa now, don't get ahead of yourself fellas. I have had plenty of seat time, not at the track but on the streets for sure. The foxes I am speaking of had good suspension and great weight transfer. I said it took an H/C/I and s/c to "put the smokes on ls1 Camaro's" I'm talking bus lengths . I would still get some good runs in with only the H/C/I setup versus stock Ls1's but the ls1's with boltons and sticky tires were still faster. With the my s/c setup I was serving them left and right. But still for the amount of work to make a fox faster than an ls1 camaro is alot and not to say if you do the same mods to an ls1 the fox would look pathetic. Plain and simple ls1's have a better engine design and can maximze power better.

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Whoa Whoa now, don't get ahead of yourself fellas. I have had plenty of seat time, not at the track but on the streets for sure. The foxes I am speaking of had good suspension and great weight transfer. I said it took an H/C/I and s/c to "put the smokes on ls1 Camaro's" I'm talking bus lengths . I would still get some good runs in with only the H/C/I setup versus stock Ls1's but the ls1's with boltons and sticky tires were still faster. With the my s/c setup I was serving them left and right. But still for the amount of work to make a fox faster than an ls1 camaro is alot and not to say if you do the same mods to an ls1 the fox would look pathetic. Plain and simple ls1's have a better engine design and can maximze power better.

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its funny when people say do the same mods to a ls1 or mustang and ls1 handsdown. Ls1 stock is way better than a mustang stock, but when you start modding them, mustangs take way better to mods than ls1, go to the track and tell me how many 12 second ls1's you see, and then walk up to all the 13 second ls1's out there and see all the work they have into there motor and there only running 13 or low 12's and then get back at us.

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Whoa Whoa now, don't get ahead of yourself fellas. I have had plenty of seat time, not at the track but on the streets for sure. The foxes I am speaking of had good suspension and great weight transfer. I said it took an H/C/I and s/c to "put the smokes on ls1 Camaro's" I'm talking bus lengths . I would still get some good runs in with only the H/C/I setup versus stock Ls1's but the ls1's with boltons and sticky tires were still faster. With the my s/c setup I was serving them left and right. But still for the amount of work to make a fox faster than an ls1 camaro is alot and not to say if you do the same mods to an ls1 the fox would look pathetic. Plain and simple ls1's have a better engine design and can maximze power better.

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its funny when people say do the same mods to a ls1 or mustang and ls1 handsdown. Ls1 stock is way better than a mustang stock, but when you start modding them, mustangs take way better to mods than ls1, go to the track and tell me how many 12 second ls1's you see, and then walk up to all the 13 second ls1's out there and see all the work they have into there motor and there only running 13 or low 12's and then get back at us.

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Are you kidding me ?.. All it takes is a Longtube'd Fbody and someone who knows how to drive. Shit, ive seen non longtube fbodys doing high 12s. I trapped 113 in my old longtube only ws6. Ls1's handle bolt ons WAY more than a mustang

I love mustangs but thats a dumb statement. If Fbodys had a decent rearend it would be game over. I had a cam longtube ws6(411rwhp) that just slayed mustangs and even hung door to door with ported blower cobras.

With a properly setup mustang and a driver who can DRIVE his car, a bolt on ls1 is a healthy race. But dont take credit away from an fbody because they run hard too

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Originally posted by 18x10roushes:
Very true ^^^. Nice pic of whip

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What size are motors are LS1's?
How much newer are LS1's compared to a fox 302?

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Originally posted by 65mustang408:
Haha the never ending debate! If i swapped a bolt on ls1/ls6 in a fox it would walk all bolt for bolt ford powered fox bodys. How many 347 strokers are even cracking the 400rwhp mark ?

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Whoa Whoa now, don't get ahead of yourself fellas. I have had plenty of seat time, not at the track but on the streets for sure. The foxes I am speaking of had good suspension and great weight transfer. I said it took an H/C/I and s/c to "put the smokes on ls1 Camaro's" I'm talking bus lengths . I would still get some good runs in with only the H/C/I setup versus stock Ls1's but the ls1's with boltons and sticky tires were still faster. With the my s/c setup I was serving them left and right. But still for the amount of work to make a fox faster than an ls1 camaro is alot and not to say if you do the same mods to an ls1 the fox would look pathetic. Plain and simple ls1's have a better engine design and can maximze power better.

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its funny when people say do the same mods to a ls1 or mustang and ls1 handsdown. Ls1 stock is way better than a mustang stock, but when you start modding them, mustangs take way better to mods than ls1, go to the track and tell me how many 12 second ls1's you see, and then walk up to all the 13 second ls1's out there and see all the work they have into there motor and there only running 13 or low 12's and then get back at us.

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Are you kidding me ?.. All it takes is a Longtube'd Fbody and someone who knows how to drive. Shit, ive seen non longtube fbodys doing high 12s. I trapped 113 in my old longtube only ws6. Ls1's handle bolt ons WAY more than a mustang

I love mustangs but thats a dumb statement. If Fbodys had a decent rearend it would be game over. I had a cam longtube ws6(411rwhp) that just slayed mustangs and even hung door to door with ported blower cobras.

With a properly setup mustang and a driver who can DRIVE his car, a bolt on ls1 is a healthy race. But dont take credit away from an fbody because they run hard too

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+1000 well said Vndcatr Mach1

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500rwhp n/a? Congrats if so! There are many stock bottom end ls6 motors making 500rwhp with ported oem heads aftermarket cam and intake.

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Originally posted by RONIN:
Good lookin bro, I'm glad someone on here that actually knows there shit spoke up. The amount of LS equipped F-bodies that I've encountered make 400hp easy as you stated and take way better to boltons than the 5.0's. There's no doubt that a bolt on 4th gen will hang if not beat a stock 03/04 Cobra, I've seen it countless times.

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Whoa Whoa now, don't get ahead of yourself fellas. I have had plenty of seat time, not at the track but on the streets for sure. The foxes I am speaking of had good suspension and great weight transfer. I said it took an H/C/I and s/c to "put the smokes on ls1 Camaro's" I'm talking bus lengths . I would still get some good runs in with only the H/C/I setup versus stock Ls1's but the ls1's with boltons and sticky tires were still faster. With the my s/c setup I was serving them left and right. But still for the amount of work to make a fox faster than an ls1 camaro is alot and not to say if you do the same mods to an ls1 the fox would look pathetic. Plain and simple ls1's have a better engine design and can maximze power better.

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its funny when people say do the same mods to a ls1 or mustang and ls1 handsdown. Ls1 stock is way better than a mustang stock, but when you start modding them, mustangs take way better to mods than ls1, go to the track and tell me how many 12 second ls1's you see, and then walk up to all the 13 second ls1's out there and see all the work they have into there motor and there only running 13 or low 12's and then get back at us.

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Are you kidding me ?.. All it takes is a Longtube'd Fbody and someone who knows how to drive. Shit, ive seen non longtube fbodys doing high 12s. I trapped 113 in my old longtube only ws6. Ls1's handle bolt ons WAY more than a mustang

I love mustangs but thats a dumb statement. If Fbodys had a decent rearend it would be game over. I had a cam longtube ws6(411rwhp) that just slayed mustangs and even hung door to door with ported blower cobras.

With a properly setup mustang and a driver who can DRIVE his car, a bolt on ls1 is a healthy race. But dont take credit away from an fbody because they run hard too

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I'm not arguing that there not easy to get 400 horsepower out of them, but that don't translate to well on the track or the streets. i had 330 horsepower in my mustang and never came close to losing to a cam\longtube ls1, DYNO numbers don't win races. Like i said, just go to the track and see in REAL LIFE how many fast ls1 camaro's are out there, and then if you find one ask him what he has done to it, you'll be surprised. Don't get me wrong camaro's are nice cars, I had one before and plan on getting another one and just enjoying it stock, but as in modding cars, i'll stick to mustangs

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