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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
this is pathetic....what does him being black have anything to do with anything? He won because people belived in what he was saying..people were ready for a change,or somebody trying to change things. You guy's all happy about him being a "black" pres might not be so happy in 4 years ,If he can't do what he says. It will be huge failure for the African American people and America. I personaly hope he succeds for all of us. Look at all the people who voted for him, he carried way more than just the black vote. It will be a historic step for Black men if he succeds....story still to be written.
Cant unspill milk. It will never be a huge failure for African Americans. Never. Listen to McCain's exit speech to answer your first question. If you cannot understand the monumental and historic value this election/nomination has. Then I have nothing better to say than I'll pray for you. But McCain said it better than I can, if you missed his concession speech you should watch it.
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McCain's concession speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcBt2a0LUyQ
Not only watch it, but understand it.
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Obama! ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
really interestings post on here. i am kinda glad this is done i have not seen so many people get worked up over an election before. i think McCain and Obama's message of unit is what we all should strive for now.
to reply to what fastback said about Obama willing to bomb a country. Obama has already said he is going to bomb pakistan specifically were Al Quitea(sp?) has taken over. and being pakistani myself i could not be happier. In my dad's hometown alone thier have been almost 400 deaths people who are being killed because they are shia muslims and not wahabi muslim all the killing are being done by al quitea. the northern terriotries of pakistan have been over run. yes thier will be some innocent causalties but at this point they are killing so many people over there that they just need to be stoped!
Did anyone hear Obama call into 106 kmel last night? i was picking up my wife from bart at 630 and just listing to kmel and they jokingly said "hey we should get obama on the radio" and he called in!!! he encouraged everyone to vote, i was blown away to hear him on that station! doing stuff like that won him this election.
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I hope he gets shot.
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i would go as far as doing that, but he is not going to be good for america...maybe europe
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You do not need to pray for me. I am not blinded by color ,I can see the entire picture. I have no prejudices's to any man. I hope he succeds for the future of America. Why would I need to listen to McCain to form my own opinion?lol. If you think either one of these guy's is actualy in touch with the reality of the blue collar working man ,think again.
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I find it interesting that they keep saying African American.. No offence I am sure its a proud day for some.. But hello he is half White.. 50/50... So they still consider him a full blooded African American? If so I want to be called a Irish, Indian, German American and collect all the benefits! Going to call the local Indian casino and ask for my monthly check!
I didn't vote for him, but there is nothing I can do, I just hope the guy comes through with all his promises and doesn't rape the military like Clinton did.
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Actually you are correct, I would not need to pray for you. But I do pity you, if you truly can't see the symbolism/advancement in this historic election. You are actually missing out on a large chunk of what makes America great IMO.
But I do not want to argue. So we can agree to disagree
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Originally posted by 03White_Venom:
I find it interesting that they keep saying African American.. No offence I am sure its a proud day for some.. But hello he is half White....
lmao....this is the funniest thing I have read here in a while. But you know what. You could be technically right. Its like the age old riddle. Is the zebra white with black stripes of black with white stripes. But soon as you mix a African American with any race you pretty much become African American, its a gift and a curse. Its one of those things you don't question. It just is. I am actually mixed as well. But no one can tell me I am not black...lol
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Ask yourself this. If you saw him as a regular man, walking down the street. And you were asked to classify him by race. What would you consider him?
[ November 05, 2008, 03:46 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
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I would not accept or do I neep your pitty anyhow. You are so blinded by color you can't see the light N8. Yes I agree it is a large step for Black america( I just call it america because I do not segragate by race). I am trying to see this as a good thing for ALL of America because we are a melting pot of races. Every time I try to post up something about America people like your self always have to bring color into it. How as a country will we ever get past this if the people who cry foul about racism alway keep bringing it up ? Pray for your self and pity your self N8 you need it way more than me.
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Originally posted by 03White_Venom:
I find it interesting that they keep saying African American.. No offence I am sure its a proud day for some.. But hello he is half White.. 50/50... So they still consider him a full blooded African American? If so I want to be called a Irish, Indian, German American and collect all the benefits! Going to call the local Indian casino and ask for my monthly check!
I didn't vote for him, but there is nothing I can do, I just hope the guy comes through with all his promises and doesn't rape the military like Clinton did.
Proud day for MILLIONS, MILLIONS, MILLIONS, not juust some, some would be McCain's campain.
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But lets not forget that he is our first ever African American president to be elected (never happened before), it feels good how the country came together and voted.
My cousins, neighbours, coworkers, college students all standing in line for Obama
There are soo many other countries congratulating USA right now, never ever seen that happen before.
Go Obama, YES WE DID!
ON EDIT : Im kinda sad because we weren't able to name the sewege plant out there in SF after Bush's name, dammit! ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
I would not accept or do I neep your pitty anyhow. You are so blinded by color you can't see the light N8. Yes I agree it is a large step for Black america( I just call it america because I do not segragate by race). I am trying to see this as a good thing for ALL of America because we are a melting pot of races. Every time I try to post up something about America people like your self always have to bring color into it. How as a country will we ever get past this if the people who cry foul about racism alway keep bringing it up ? Pray for your self and pity your self N8 you need it way more than me.
Well I know my words are falling on def ears. But you are doing the equivalent of skipping over a dime to get a nickle. You say you are looking past race (which is great believe me). But then you say "I am trying to see this as a good thing for ALL of America". That is where the contradiction occurs. He (Obama) symbolizes the "good" you are looking for. And he does so mainly because of race. He is the first African American president, as soon as that was announced he became an inspiration to every American to believe in the American Dream (If they hadn't already). He is a symbol of advancement and a icon that can put the scarred past of America further in the rearview (you spoke of that as well). That is the very substance of what makes America great, the ability to dream and achieve, even the most loftiest of goals (which is why I said you are missing a large chunk of what makes America great). Now as commander in chief we will have to judge him by his duties now. Not his words. And that judgment is a cumulative one. So at the the present there is no "good" you can draw or search for. Only "good" speculation. So in essence you are indeed looking right past the dime and settling for the nickle by not understanding the magnitude of this election. I for one never thought I would see it in my lifetime.
Last thing too.
A good:
He was able to pull several generations together, several ethnic groups, several idealistic groups, Genders, religious sects, all in staggering numbers to the likes that has never been seen. I for one feel more connected to the political process and am proud to have voted. And actually feel like I didnt settle. Those are good things as well. And have nothing to do with color.!
[ November 05, 2008, 04:17 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
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Originally posted by 03White_Venom:
I just hope the guy comes through with all his promises and doesn't rape the military like Clinton did.
Ive been in the military over 10 years now, I sure hope he doesnt treat us like clinton did.
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It is a big step for blacks and other minorities as we can now feel we all truly have an equal opportunity to become or be whatever we want to be. I'm hispanic and have always believed that, but I have a lot of family and minority friends that don't believe that. This also helps whites in that they can no longer feel any type of guilt for having what alot of people say an "advantage". And they can no longer be accused of being the "brick wall" that stands in the way of minorities. Of course this new step with Obama doesn't solve all the racial issues we have presently, but it is a big step for everyone in this country. But more importantly I think we all know deep down that Obama was and is the most qualified person for the presidency. Lets hope that he follows through with everything he's promised.
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
It is a big step for blacks and other minorities as we can now feel we all truly have an equal opportunity to become or be whatever we want to be. I'm hispanic and have always believed that, but I have a lot of family and minority friends that don't believe that. This also helps whites in that they can no longer feel any type of guilt for having what alot of people say an "advantage". And they can longer be accused of being the "brick wall" that stands in the way of minorities. Of course this new step with Obama doesn't solve all the racial issues we have presently, but it is a big step for everyone in this country. But more importantly I think we all know deep down that Obama was and is the most qualified person for the presidency. Lets hope that he follows through with everything he's promised.
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obama and his crew are cruising to the whitehouse ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
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obama said he wants to put a basketball court in the whitehouse.. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) would be nice if he invited a professional player to play 1 on 1
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obama on monday night football also said he thought college football should have a 8 game play off system. and since then then 75% of college football fan polls agree with him.
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I voted McCain...
I can't vote for someone that is Pro Abortion. Someone that is fine with letting a live baby that is born from an induced abortion gone wrong just sit there and die, or sufficate it to death, or strangle it or whatever other fucked off way they can think of. WTF,...I'm sorry but that is the very most sick thing I've ever heard of!
Pro Choice is Pro Abortion. Saying you are Pro Choice is a fuckin cop out. ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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This is probably better served in a PM. But anti Pro-choice folks always intrigue me. Their views are always different and sometimes extreme. Are you a pure anti Pro-choice. Like a girl gets raped and you wanna make them have the baby? Or if the mother continues the preg/birth possible death could come her way? I must say for the most part I am pro-choice but do agree their needs to be some governing (which is a contradiction in itself). But I have talked to some people that I feel are way out in left field with it. Just curious. Feel free to pm me.
But I do commend you on having a passionate reason for your choice. Not some hollow opinion/rumor. I personally didnt like McCains stance on education, taxes and the war.
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I voted McCain...
I can't vote for someone that is Pro Abortion. Someone that is fine with letting a live baby that is born from an induced abortion gone wrong just sit there and die, or sufficate it to death, or strangle it or whatever other fucked off way they can think of. WTF,...I'm sorry but that is the very most sick thing I've ever heard of!
Pro Choice is Pro Abortion. Saying you are Pro Choice is a fuckin cop out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8UK5Dv4v8&feature=related
its all perspective. i personally have a friend from back in the day who got an abortion becuase she was raped and got pregnat by the rapist. if she would have had the kid she would have gave it up for adoption and we would have had a future welfare recipiant and a general drain on the economy.
if you want to be pro life thats fine but then you better open up your home and become a foster parent.
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I'm 100% pro choice! Men "AND" women mess up at times. A child should not be brought into this world BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!
Is it a form of birth control, NO IDIOT, so don't even try with that bullshit claim.
It's a woman's right to "decide" if she's ready to have a child or not, 100%.
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Originally posted by *302DROP*:
obama and his crew are cruising to the whitehouse
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Originally posted by Jdub07:
I voted McCain...
I can't vote for someone that is Pro Abortion. Someone that is fine with letting a live baby that is born from an induced abortion gone wrong just sit there and die, or sufficate it to death, or strangle it or whatever other fucked off way they can think of. WTF,...I'm sorry but that is the very most sick thing I've ever heard of!
Pro Choice is Pro Abortion. Saying you are Pro Choice is a fuckin cop out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8UK5Dv4v8&feature=related
its all perspective. i personally have a friend from back in the day who got an abortion becuase she was raped and got pregnat by the rapist. if she would have had the kid she would have gave it up for adoption and we would have had a future welfare recipiant and a general drain on the economy.
if you want to be pro life thats fine but then you better open up your home and become a foster parent.
so are you saying that all offspring of rapist and go to a foster home are gonna get welfare.im pretty sure that if you are a welfare recipient the people who foster out kids arent gonna let you get a child.not to mention that not all people follow in their birth parents footsteps.
i think that the fostering family would determine the outcome of the childs future over their dna
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i think that the fostering family would determine the outcome of the childs future over their dna [/QB]
thats exactly my point. what i am saying is if we force people who are not ready to become parents to have kids. then those who forsed them should raise the unwanted children and prevent them from going down that path.
i do not think it is a great leap to say that unwanted children raised by unqualified parents end up on welfare or worse. as far as assumsions go i think that is pretty spot on.
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