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65mustang408
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i have got a wild hair up my ass and have decided to MAYBE sell my turbo 408w motor are g force trans to buy a 03 04 cobra motor and t56. sure a fuel injected 408w with a turbonetics 76mm ball bearing turbo will be pretty nasty. 9 sec street car. but im looking to have something fast but also something i can jump in anytime and just drive anywhere anytime for as long as i want and not think twice.im thinking stock cobra motor and trans in my 2900 lb car which is 4 linked and mustang 2 front end, will be a blast to drive.i think with just some long tubes and cold air it will be a high 11 sec car. i have a crap load of money already into my combo and will lose a lot if i sell. i can handle fab work no problem and wiring will take a little bit. i have put efi im my 65. give me some thoughts on what i should do.hearing the whine from the blower and all that instant torque sounds good. hearing that turbo spool up and and feeling easy 600 rwhp sounds good too. HELP!!! [ January 22, 2010, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: 65mustang408 ]
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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JohnB
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Do you want a 9 sec car...or a 11 sec car? It's want it really comes down to. And as far as drivability, it's all in the build. I'd have no issues driving my 10-sec Cobra anywhere...but the mpg would be a different story.
If you're that deep into it that you will lose $$$, go with the original plan. Right now, and for the foreseen future, you won't sell a combo like that and come close to buying a 03-04 drivetrain.
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Posts: 6523 | From: Orlando FL/Redding CA | Registered: Mar 2002
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65mustang408
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yea it is all in the build but im also looking for the "wow" factor. plus throw a kenne bell on it and hold the F on. theirs a few low mile drivetrians for 6500 right now. i don't know...plus the capabilities of the power limits of a cobra motor compared to a 351w is a nice advantage also. maybe i just need to buy a 03 cobra for a second fun car.
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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SIC9250
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bro here ya go...4.0 v6 ranger motor with a stroked bottom end on a hundred shot...
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65mustang408
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should be faster than yours bud
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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SIC9250
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lol your so funny guy hahaha dick.....
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65mustang408
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got the turbo in yesterday.... makes me want to keep it.
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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92stangLX
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The "cool" factor of having a mod motor in your oldschool will definitely be there. 600rwhp in a Cobra Motor shouldn't be a problem at all with a KB or Whipple.
However, adapting that motor will be a lot more work than a pushrod motor. You will need to find a k-member for starters. Then you will have to worry about clearing the shock towers. Don't forget headers. Also, you will need to figure out how to get past the PATs system.
I'm sure there is a lot more that I am leaving out.
Posts: 5302 | From: San Francisco | Registered: Sep 2003
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65mustang408
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car is already equipped with a mustang 2 front end. i can put anything in there. make my own motor and tans mount.get a harness from ford fuel injection which they can get rid of the pats, and all the little stupid shit. i have no problem tackling the project just scared to let go of my pride and joy 408w. but im young and dumb and have plenty of years to make mistakes and fix them. fuck it! if i get a deal im goin for it.
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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65mustang408
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sucks i "couldn't sell my combo for 03 cobra drivetrain".....heh bullllllshit!! fully built aluminum teskid motor with treated cobra crank,eagle H beam rods, coated probe forged pistons with hellfire rings arp every thing with a canton pan and windage tray, rated to 1300fwhp with a 2 year warranty.....not to mention fully ported c heads with blower cams and a stage 3 ported eaton and complete harness ecu accessorys. this is the start of the build page.
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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89bluenotch
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it will be worth it! f'n badass man
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jayl
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wow, already in there! fuck lol
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Posts: 3821 | From: Hayward | Registered: Mar 2001
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SIC9250
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bro its 4 am...ya cant sleep to fuckn excited about today anyways....wtf...u didnt say anything about it being already in!!!!!! thats fuckn dope bro....ya fuck the haters...lets go terminate...hahaha im so gay with the lingo but fuck it hahaha
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Posts: 6959 | From: in the drivers seat. | Registered: Feb 2008
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65mustang408
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just mock up pics.still need to build motor mounts.its gonna sit about 3 inches lower and 2 inches back more.
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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WickedStang
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WOW! Its gonna be SIK. Snap many pics, keep us updated. Goodluck.
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Posts: 1581 | From: salinas831 | Registered: May 2007
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70mach351
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thats what i want to do but instead of mustang 2 front end use the griggs gr350 front and rear kit. nice ride
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Posts: 1762 | From: EDH | Registered: Mar 2007
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whitelx91
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One thing ive learned is if you start something finish it even if your ideas change cause then your stuck with the idea of never knowing how it turned out. Alot times i get frusterated or even bored in the middle of a project and want to chang everything before its done. Just finish it i bet youll love it. Then if you still waqnt to do something else sell it (complete) youll get more money for it and start fresh! Good luck
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Posts: 380 | From: Sacramento Ca. | Registered: Apr 2008
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65mustang408
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yeah i kinda wish i got the turbo 408 up and running but i have always wanted to do this just i think it was the right time before the car got to outa control on HP and would have to upgrade the block,tranny,standalone efi,fuel,system,probably the axles and full cage the car for the kinda power you can make with that combo. i want a mid to low 11 second car that drives like stock.
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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65mustang408
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haha plans have changed i think im ditching the blower and putting a single turbo on it. to much work to convert all the 99 teskid stuff to make a eaton work.i hope the gforce holds up.
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Posts: 947 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2008
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t top freak
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i have always loved the idea of an older muscle car with modern parts.
its just sexy
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OMG!!!!U WILL NEVER MAKE UP YER MIND!!!
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jayl
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madness!! lol
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Posts: 3821 | From: Hayward | Registered: Mar 2001
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Yellow94GT
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quote: Originally posted by 65mustang408: i hope the gforce holds up.
It wont.
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Posts: 5990 | From: Cameron Park, Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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93PONY
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03 Cobra heads make more power than ported 99-01 Cobra heads. I'd swap out the 01's for some 03's.
I'd also do the following to the heads: Have bronze guides installed. Use one-piece high-flow valves. Install Comp Cams valvesprings & retainers. Throw in a set of Ford GT Supercar cams.
I've personally seen 60RWHP & 80RWTQ gains from swapping from a set of ported 01 Cobra heads with Re-ground blower cams to a set of STOCK 03 Cobra heads & cams in a Vortech S-Trim setup.
The upgrades to the 03Cobra heads would be worth another 30-40+hp.....without portwork, and would hold 25+psi boost (assuming there's not a shit-ton of back pressure in the turbo manifold) Un-ported 03 Cobra heads have gone 8's.
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asskickn88
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quote: Originally posted by 93PONY: Un-ported 03 Cobra heads have gone 8's.
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