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hilltim54
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A wise man once told me to get the h/c/i first so that I dnt have to get it tuned twice,.... But which one would make more power right now?? And have daily drivability?? The top end kit comes with heads, intake, cam, rockers, lifters head gaskets,,,.. What are u guys opinions?? Oh and yes both of these are part of my overall plan
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CornOil_&_Boost
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S-trim at 10lbs would be my choice....had both combos before and the s-trim on stock parts was a better car to drive and was slightly faster on the street...
for the money though...
http://www.on3performance.com/mustang5.html
do this on a stock bottom end and have a sleeper that makes 400-450RW, drives like stock, and you'll have less money into it than an HCI/Strim setup...
[ April 13, 2011, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: C6Z06s_own_50Deep ]
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turbo50
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blower and meth kit
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MauriSSio
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Originally posted by C6Z06s_own_50Deep:
S-trim at 10lbs would be my choice....had both combos before and the s-trim on stock parts was a better car to drive and was slightly faster on the street...
for the money though...
http://www.on3performance.com/mustang5.html
do this on a stock bottom end and have a sleeper that makes 400-450RW, drives like stock, and you'll have less money into it than an HCI/Strim setup...
that sounds like a badass setup.
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turbo50
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ON3 has some pretty nice kits for a budget price as well.
Check out the feedback on turbomustangs
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turbo50
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If you want to go pretty fast and havent bought anything yet you could always get on3 351 kit which is about 1600 I believe.
Then pick up a used roller 351. Throw some rings and bearings in it. Gap them for the turbo. Put an F cam in it. Get some used eddies, TFS, GT40s...really anything other than stock heads (except like 69 351 4v heads) and bolt it all together, do the work yourself and it will fly.
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S-trim any day of the week over trickflow topend kit... then you could piece together your parts with time and good research... ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
thats what I did and feel pretty accomplished and satisfied with my parts list
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Jaejae5.0
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buy a charger..weither it be turbo or super..wish i wouldnt have wasted anytime and went straight to boost ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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SmokinLX
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With stock worn valve springs those valve's are going to be floating @ 5000 rpm's with supercharger coming in to the party in the low 3000rpm range it won't have a longenough span of useable power rite? Nice hci combo will produce a much wider and useable powerban which eqal's more fun around town or am I wrong? I have had My stang since 1994 and bought a longblock & then threw the boost on it so did'nt ever drive it booseted on stock engine ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif) . Still jocking these same part's now ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) Make a good plan before Ya build and with high quality part's You won't need to buy twice! Good luck with the build!
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Jaejae5.0
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With stock worn valve springs those valve's are going to be floating @ 5000 rpm's with supercharger coming in to the party in the low 3000rpm range it won't have a longenough span of useable power rite? Nice hci combo will produce a much wider and useable powerban which eqal's more fun around town or am I wrong? I have had My stang since 1994 and bought a longblock & then threw the boost on it so did'nt ever drive it booseted on stock engine . Still jocking these same part's now Make a good plan before Ya build and with high quality part's You won't need to buy twice! Good luck with the build!
i guess!..lol i dont have worn valve springs soo i want boost ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
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SmokinLX
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Originally posted by 707notchback jaejae:
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Originally posted by SmokinLX:
With stock worn valve springs those valve's are going to be floating @ 5000 rpm's with supercharger coming in to the party in the low 3000rpm range it won't have a longenough span of useable power rite? Nice hci combo will produce a much wider and useable powerban which eqal's more fun around town or am I wrong? I have had My stang since 1994 and bought a longblock & then threw the boost on it so did'nt ever drive it booseted on stock engine . Still jocking these same part's now Make a good plan before Ya build and with high quality part's You won't need to buy twice! Good luck with the build!
i guess!..lol i dont have worn valve springs soo i want boost
Probably csnt go wrong with that. By the time You buy the part's needed for both setup's I think it would be a wash, depending on what part's are already on the car.
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Can't go wrong with both, boosted hci ftw!!! Let the tires burn
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do the hci and youll get to know how to work on your ride and make it run good. then see if u want a power adder...nothin like a 5.0 with a nice cam and heads in my opinion.
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do the hci and youll get to know how to work on your ride and make it run good. then see if u want a power adder...nothin like a 5.0 with a nice cam and heads in my opinion.
Good advice about learning about working on your own car... Also good advice if you want to be slow.... A 5.0 is not a LS -Based motor picking up gobbs of power from a heads/cam install, you didn't even mention an intake ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Blown 5.0 over a Heads/Cam one bro... nothing like the whistle of a S-Trim or Novi..
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hilltim54
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Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Can't go wrong with both, boosted hci ftw!!! Let the tires burn
I am gonna do both... Its all part of my plans... Just dbt know which one to pick up first...
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Thugnificent
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I also want the trick flow top end kit...
As far as on3 are those kits smog legal??
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turbo50
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Originally posted by Madstyle1:
I also want the trick flow top end kit...
As far as on3 are those kits smog legal??
No but neither is the trick flow top end kit
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Blower = Winning.
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turbo50
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Originally posted by hilltim54:
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Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Can't go wrong with both, boosted hci ftw!!! Let the tires burn
I am gonna do both... Its all part of my plans... Just dbt know which one to pick up first...
Why? Single turbo can make enough power with stock heads, intake and cam to split the stock 8.2 non boss block right down the middle........
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by hilltim54:
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Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Can't go wrong with both, boosted hci ftw!!! Let the tires burn
I am gonna do both... Its all part of my plans... Just dbt know which one to pick up first...
Why? Single turbo can make enough power with stock heads, intake and cam to split the stock 8.2 non boss block right down the middle........
yup....
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Ben (turbogt) made 420RWHP through the AOD
http://www.theturboforums.com/feature_cars/bend.php
Whats the benifits of having a turbo over a supercharger?? And why arent they as popular as superchargers??
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Thugnificent
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trick flow , then a blower later
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Ben (turbogt) made 420RWHP through the AOD
http://www.theturboforums.com/feature_cars/bend.php
Whats the benifits of having a turbo over a supercharger?? And why arent they as popular as superchargers??
there are many s/c kits out there that are CARB legal, can't say the same for turbo kits. so that's one of the main reasons why turbos aren't as popular.
if it's going to be a couple of yrs before you get to do both setup, i'd recommend you do a s/c first. this way you can plan accordingly when picking out your hci setup. if you pick out a NA cam now, it might not be the best choice for a s/c setup so you end up having to change out the cam again. this is money wasted.
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Originally posted by hilltim54:
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Ben (turbogt) made 420RWHP through the AOD
http://www.theturboforums.com/feature_cars/bend.php
Whats the benifits of having a turbo over a supercharger?? And why arent they as popular as superchargers??
before S/C were so much cheaper than turbo kits....and there was a lot more choices.
typical turbo kits before would cost anywhere from $5 to $6K for a kit and all the supporting mods ..etc
whereas for half that price, you could have a new charger...or a used one for $2K..
today, you can get away with a turbo kit and all the goodies for around $2500, so now they are being popular again....unless you are concerned with smog... there are no smog legal kits...unless you find a good used incon kit..which are super rare and usually sell for over $3K used.
also installation...a typical s-trim install on a fox can take even the average person 4-5 hours...(2-3 hours for those of us who have done it more than once)...
a turbo installation...well let's say a LOT longer....doing my first turbo install now and my friend and I've got probably 10 hours into it...just a lot of different items to go over...plus, a TON more parts...and we've done S/C install in 2-3 hours...so a lot of guys who are new to working on your own car usually shy away from turbo installs
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