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arodeast408
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Manteca killed a man with nothing on his hand except a seatbelt strap that got stuck to his hand no need for this to have happen there family would greatly appreciate it if you guys can repost this wherever to show the world how corrupt manteca pd is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rZZY7PxdWw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Posts: 340 | From: some where in the bay | Registered: Oct 2011
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arodeast408
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From what I heard is that they planted it in there after but still should have never got shot he should have drawn his tazer before his gun
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Posts: 340 | From: some where in the bay | Registered: Oct 2011
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post that on local tv fb pages websites
Posts: 4484 | From: -NicKlE n DiMe- | Registered: Sep 2010
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DEVERO2
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As I will agree that the officer discharged his weapon too many times, I can not say that he should not have discharged at all. The man got out of the truck and when officer said "hand up" he went back into the truck. The officer could not see through the truck to what he was grabbing and the officer felt his life was in danger. when the man came back out of the car it looked in the video that he had something in his hand. It was a split second decision the officer had to make, shot or be shot. The officer did not have time to double and triple check what the man had in his hand. He discharged his weapon. I would have done the same thing in that situation. I would have sent one shot into an appendage disabling the suspect, but not killing him. At that point I would survey the surroundings and if suspect tried to come at me I would discharge again. That is my opinion of course. The suspect did in no way deserve that many shots, or to die. I also agree that a taser should have been his first choice, but like I stated before he only had a second to make a decision. remember before he discharged his gun he was placing it back into his holster until the suspect went back into the truck. In a him or me situation, with that much uncertainty, I would want me to be the safest. If the suspect pulled a gun and the officer had a taser the suspect would have shot the officer and the taser would have possibly not been shot or maybe it was shot and suspect still shoots officer. This is a sticky situation, I am sorry for your friends family and loved ones and my prayers go out to them.
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This is murder. People side with cops all day with that shot or be shot line. There's other weapons he could have used and kept the suspect alive. Until your in a situation like this and your the suspect you shouldn't say much. Yes dude got out all frantic like but a tazer would have put him out quick and he would have still been alive. Cops say they did because they wanted to make it home to there family, yea what about this guy who was murdered on his fucking doorstep? Does he get to see his family? No, and then you strip the guy naked and still can't find shit? I wish we could just line cops up and let the people judge them not no bias ass jury
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Posts: 4761 | From: Pittsburg CA | Registered: Mar 2011
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70mach351
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So a jury doesn't count as people? What people should judge them if not a jury?
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Originally posted by arodeast408:
Manteca killed a man with nothing on his hand except a seatbelt strap that got stuck to his hand no need for this to have happen there family would greatly appreciate it if you guys can repost this wherever to show the world how corrupt manteca pd is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rZZY7PxdWw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
My wife is good friends with his brother David, homie didn't deserved to go out like that. They were protesting yesterday
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Dang watching that was crazy and it got removed off youtube already. RIP!
Posts: 273 | From: Melolambes | Registered: Dec 2009
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Originally posted by 70mach351:
So a jury doesn't count as people? What people should judge them if not a jury?
You know what I stated that incorrectly. I think people directly from that neighborhood not including family or friends I was picked as a jury member for a murder in Richmond. I didn't want shit to do with it like come on now I live in Pitt pick someone who's actually affected by the situation
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Law enforcement is the largest gang in AMERICA! bottom line! nothing but a bunch of hot headed thieves! The reason shootings, and oops sorry wrong house home invasions happen is because we the people allow it! and this is the way its always going to be.
Posts: 631 | From: marin | Registered: Feb 2009
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Originally posted by [SHO]TIME:
Law enforcement is the largest gang in AMERICA!
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RIP, now lets see what the FACTS tell us on this particular incident...
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wilit
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Originally posted by fredfifty:
RIP, now lets see what the FACTS tell us on this particular incident...
1. The guy had a criminal history.
2. He did not comply with a legal police order to comply.
3. The cop could articulate a fear for his safety and justify it with items 1 & 2.
The cop will always win in this scenaro. Sucks to see someone lose their life over something so simple, but it was easily avoidable.
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Originally posted by wilit:
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Originally posted by fredfifty:
RIP, now lets see what the FACTS tell us on this particular incident...
1. The guy had a criminal history.
2. He did not comply with a legal police order to comply.
3. The cop could articulate a fear for his safety and justify it with items 1 & 2.
The cop will always win in this scenaro. Sucks to see someone lose their life over something so simple, but it was easily avoidable.
+1.
Why try to go back into the car?
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DEVERO2
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Originally posted by wilit:
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Originally posted by fredfifty:
RIP, now lets see what the FACTS tell us on this particular incident...
1. The guy had a criminal history.
2. He did not comply with a legal police order to comply.
3. The cop could articulate a fear for his safety and justify it with items 1 & 2.
The cop will always win in this scenaro. Sucks to see someone lose their life over something so simple, but it was easily avoidable.
+2 completely avoidable.
Posts: 641 | From: sacramento | Registered: Oct 2005
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1. The guy had a criminal history.
2. He did not comply with a legal police order to comply.
3. The cop could articulate a fear for his safety and justify it with items 1 & 2.
The cop will always win in this scenaro. Sucks to see someone lose their life over something so simple, but it was easily avoidable.
I agree, if I was the officer I probably would've done the same. It's my safety before anyone elses. Anytime I get puled over I do exactly what Im told to do. I express my freedom of speech but thats all.I usually end up with no ticket and Iwould say about 80% of the cops are cool. Their main concerns at the moment are drugs and weapons. Sucks this happened to a family friend. Hopefully the public learns from this.
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Originally posted by DEVERO2:
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Originally posted by wilit:
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Originally posted by fredfifty:
RIP, now lets see what the FACTS tell us on this particular incident...
1. The guy had a criminal history.
2. He did not comply with a legal police order to comply.
3. The cop could articulate a fear for his safety and justify it with items 1 & 2.
The cop will always win in this scenaro. Sucks to see someone lose their life over something so simple, but it was easily avoidable.
+2 completely avoidable.
All he had to do was exactly what the officer told him to do. When you decide to do what you want in that situation, (worst move you can ever make since cops aren't perfect)Ofcourse the officer is going to be in fear and ready to shoot you because he doesn't know what ur capable of. It's very unfortunate situation because it could have been easily avoided
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fredfifty
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I agree, avoidable situation...
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Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
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Originally posted by DEVERO2:
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Originally posted by wilit:
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Originally posted by fredfifty:
RIP, now lets see what the FACTS tell us on this particular incident...
1. The guy had a criminal history.
2. He did not comply with a legal police order to comply.
3. The cop could articulate a fear for his safety and justify it with items 1 & 2.
The cop will always win in this scenaro. Sucks to see someone lose their life over something so simple, but it was easily avoidable.
+2 completely avoidable.
All he had to do was exactly what the officer told him to do. When you decide to do what you want in that situation, (worst move you can ever make since cops aren't perfect)Ofcourse the officer is going to be in fear and ready to shoot you because he doesn't know what ur capable of. It's very unfortunate situation because it could have been easily avoided
Agreed. Still though, its a touchy situation
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Look at the way he came out of the truck, He didnt follow directions and got shot. Now if he wouldve cooperated, things wouldve went like they should. Cops are ORDERED and TRAINED to shoot in situations like that. Now getting shot 11 times is alittle overkill but the situation itself, is completely justified judging by the way he came out of the truck erratically.
I there is a valuable lesson to be learned here. DONT ACT LIKE A CRAZY IDIOT WHEN AN OFFICER HAS A GUN POINTED AT YOU.
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video got removed....
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fredfifty
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http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121212/A_NEWS/121219977
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MANTECA - The San Joaquin County District Attorney's Office has determined that the officer-involved shooting death of Ernesto Duenez last year was legally justified.
The District Attorney's Office, the Manteca Police Department and the California Department of Justice conducted a joint protocol investigation into the death of Duenez, 35, who was killed June 8, 2011, in the 200 block of Flores Avenue. The investigation, which included an analysis of Manteca police Officer John Moody's in-car audio and video unit, showed that Duenez was armed with an 8-inch, fixed-blade knife, the District Attorney's Office said.
Duenez was told to put his "hands up" and "drop the knife now," but he ignored repeated orders, the District Attorney's Office said. Moody then said, "Ernie, don't you move or I'll shoot you" and issued two more unheeded commands before opening fire, the District Attorney's Office said.
An autopsy showed Duenez was struck by 11 bullets, including one to the head, and that he had amphetamines and methamphetamine in his system when he died, the District Attorney's Office said.
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Originally posted by fredfifty:
I agree, avoidable situation...
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