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[ August 10, 2012, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: Wildfire532FB ]
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Originally posted by wilit:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Also, I admire your willingness to prevent guns from falling into the hands of criminals. You should write to your Congressmen and Senators and tell them you want justice for all of the Assault Weapons our government KNOWINGLY sold to Mexican cartels with zero oversight in Operation Fast and Furious.
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Originally posted by Greasy:
We should regulate the crazy assholes who buy them, not the guns.
Extensive back ground checks and waiting periods would address your first point, however, Americans should not be able to buy what ever weapon they want. There has to be a limit.
You sound like one of those liberal Queers from San Fransisco, oh wait..., I just noticed where your from, makes sense now.. You Fudge Packing Faget !!!
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Shit like this doesnt surprise me, what suprises me is how this queer keeps getting voted in. I Would bet anything that this fag has a ccw and carries everywhere he goes.
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Wildfire532FB
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Lol just like the Senator who is against people owning guns has spoken out numerous times saying guns shouldnt be legal for anyone and is big into the Brady campaign and not that long ago shot an intruder that was in his house. Fucking hypocrite.
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With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
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Wildfire532FB
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
A militia deos not simply mean the people; a militia refers to a well regulated army.
"This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by congress."
By the way, i am not talking about banning guns, all I am saying is that the time has come to regulate fire arms even more.
it is madness that Republicans want to regulate porn and abortions, but not guns.
mi·li·tia [mi-lish-uh]
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all able-bodied males considered by law eligible for military service
I am an abled-bodied male considered by law eligible for military service, i have the RIGHT to own ANY gun i want. I AM a Militia
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nitrous_bob
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how is that amended ?
over a month ago they said all button buttons were to be done away with ?
maybe i missed something
well...here you go....its amusing anyways...even though the dude shoots the pink AR a bit slow to overdramtize a bit, still good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhC8LpHPbRQ
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
Fuck this state and if you come to my house looking for an AR I have registered in CA I'm gonna tell you it was stolen.
then you'll go to jail
its a felony offense to NOT report a gun stolen. i wanna say that went into law with billy clinton around 1994, but dont quote me on the date
oh yeah...what was the first laws to go in effect before a gun ban in ALL other countries ?
making it a crime to fail to report a stolen firearm
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Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
THIS bill willnever pass
wanna bet ?
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nitrous_bob
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Where in the 2nd amendment deos it say that you can have a detachible high capacity magazine?
Where in the 2nd amendment deos it say that you have the right to own a grenade launcher, a tank, a machine gun or a bazooka?
although i applaud you for your UBER ignorance, where in the ten commandments does it say "thou shalt not use machineguns"
oh yeah...cuz that shit wasnt invented yet !!!!!
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
The point is that that even though under the constitution we can own a fire arm, there are limits as to what type of fire arms we can own.
correct, THATS ALREADY LAW, we dont need more...we need to enforce WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE
heres a little clue for you
1) murder is illegal
what makes you think that someone who is going to commit a felony, and a mortal sin....will turn in their guns because now...they will breaking just one more law and well...that might stop them
im sorry....but if your gonna go there...you need to ban baseball bats, knives, etc
2 days ago son...... 2 victims
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/08/10/4713294/police-kill-man-charging-with.html
oh...didnt some guy drive over a bunch of kids too ????
why didnt they do a background check on him before selling him a car, and make him go through a 5 day waiting period??
THATS BULL SHIT !!! those crimes could be prevented
cali is a pretty agricultural rich state isnt it ?
i also vote to outlaw fertilizer and diesel fuel, and rental trucks
since you know.....that IS what blew up the mcnamara building
oh yeah...and cameras, it should be illegal to smoke in your house, cuz although you have some rights to a free society , no one gives you the right to murder your children by cancer and/or by introducing carcinogens to their bodies
oh wait...why stop there
fast food and sugar should be illegal too
since well.....more people die of heart disease from obesity than by gunfire
think about what you say before you sound like a complete idiot
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nitrous_bob
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
By the way, i am not talking about banning guns, all I am saying is that the time has come to regulate fire arms even more.
actually ...yes you are, your statements said EXACTLY that...ban them cuz nobody NEEDS them
and what do mean regulate more ??? like make shooting someone illegal, like tacking on a 4 year felony to ANY gun related crime ? with no parole possible for that crime ?
you zealots have no idea what your talking about...you just repeat your rhetoric over and over til more believe you
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
it is madness that Republicans want to regulate porn and abortions, but not guns.
so your saying guns arent regulated ?
pay close attention to section 11, im SURE youve never seen a form 4473 before...so take your time, and read it all
remember there is a FBI background check called in AFTER these questions are answered
http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf
EXACTLY WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT !!!!!!!!!
someone with a medicinal card cant even buy a gun
look at #11E
although marijuana is legal under some states...this is a FEDERAL form
so anybody with a medicinal card is an "unlawful user"
and technically that same person is NOT allowed in the same house with a gun owner
is the type of regulation you seek to GROW YET EVEN MORE ?????
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nitrous_bob
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heres #6
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Worse than some dummy with an AR shooting up a movie theater and kills 12 people, our government sells countless assault weapons to organized crime and kills thousands. This is what you should be up in arms about cobraracer46. This is where the change needs to occur. Why is it that the government refuses to release these documents?
http://news.yahoo.com/house-republican-says-holder-lawsuit-filed-monday-132915237.html?_esi=1
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House sues Holder in Fast and Furious gunwalking case
A House committee filed suit against Attorney General Eric Holder Monday in federal court. The suit attempts to force Holder to turn over key documents relating to the Justice Department's Fast and Furious gunwalking program during the Bush and Obama administrations, when as many as 1,000 guns ended up in the hands of Mexican cartels in a botched attempt to capture higher-ups in the organizations.
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Today from calguns. This bill is being voted on in appropriations this Thursday!!! Let's get a move on to oppose this waste of time bill!
ATTENTION CALGUNNERS!!!
TAKE ACTION TO STOP SB249!!
It’s time to step up and take action, SB 249, a bill written to outlaw fixed magazine centerfire rifles that could easily lead to uncompensated seizure of your lawfully purchased rifle MUST BE STOPPED!
Every one of us needs to be a part of this effort to stop the banning and confiscation of arms that SB 249 represents, none of us can sit on the sidelines and hope everyone else does it for them.
I ask you to indulge me in a little bit of history.
In the late 1700’s communities stored their gun powder, musket balls and even muskets in a strong brick building called a ‘Powder House’ on the edge of town, close to hand but safely away from their homes, because keeping gun powder in a home lit and heated by open flame was dangerous. In April of 1775 British troops sought to seize those Powder Houses and confiscate what they had declared to be ‘illegal arms’, the personal weapons of individual citizens.
Our Founding Fathers stood up and said ‘NO!’
Today we are faced with legislation that attempts to do the very thing the British tried to do 235 years ago, outlaw the personal weapons of American citizens and confiscate them without even token compensation. Unlike our Founding Father we have a voice that we can make heard by our Legislators and we need to raise that voice now, loudly and in unison.
On Thursday, August 16th, 2012, Senator Yee’s bill, SB 249 will be heard by the Appropriations Committee and there it will be decided whether this bill is voted on by our State Legislators. As of 12:01AM Monday morning we have roughly 80 hours to make our voices heard and to stop this bill in the Appropriations Committee.
This is why we are launching the ’80 Hours for Freedom’ campaign.
80 hours to contact Senator Yee and the members of the Appropriations Committee. We will, with your help, be inundating these Legislators with a different means of contact each day asking them to oppose SB 249.
Monday by sending letters by Mail that will arrive between Tuesday and Wednesday.
Tuesday by phone calls to their offices.
Wednesday by emails flooding their inboxes.
Thursday by sending faxes, keeping their fax machines running from dawn to dusk.
Follow this link, www.calguns.net/249 and click on the day of the week for that days action and a listing of the Appropriation Committee members and their addresses, email addresses, phone numbers and fax numbers as well as short, simple and direct letters you can print, sign and mail, fax and copy in to emails. If you choose to write your own message, remember to keep it polite, concise and to the point, stick to the facts and again, remain polite.
Our Founding Fathers said ‘No!’ to the banning and confiscation of privately owned firearms, now it’s time for us to follow in their footsteps and do the same.
Please join us in making this a week that our Legislators will not forget.
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nitrous_bob
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Great post brother
FYI....I called the omara fed building the mcnamara bldg.
Just in case anyone ws gonna google, im referring to oklahoma not detroit
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SB 249 has grown into a huge gun ban bill.
The way I'm reading and understanding it is basically this...
If you own a rifle that has a detachable magazine it will be illegal if this bill passes. This isn't just mag magnets, or bullet buttons anymore. This is every single rifle that has a magazine that is removable without having to take the rifle apart. This means AR's, AK's, Mini 14, Ruger 10/22, Keltec SU16, Springfield M1A, M1 Carbine, the list goes on and on.
go here to help in any way you possibly can
www.calguns.net/249
stopsb249.org
This bill will be voted in appropriations this Thursday the 16th. We need to call, email, fax, send USPS letters in opposition NOW!
I just got done calling every single member of appropriations. I sent them all USPS letters yesterday. I noticed a trend. Every Republican stated that they were voting NO on this bill, while every Democrat just took my name and info. Some of them(democrats) hung up on me, some were rude, some were sarcastic. The main problem is that there are 13 Democrats, and only 5 Republicans. To me this means they can do anything they want. Let them know the public opposes!
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Looks like it got shot down for the 16th Thursday so no more talks about the ban for 2012!!!!!! Hell yea!!!
Link?
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Looks like it got shot down for the 16th Thursday so no more talks about the ban for 2012!!!!!! Hell yea!!!
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Do not celebrate yet guys keep calling, emailing, faxing etc. Let them know we dont want any infrigements on our civil rights, or any rights given to us by our fore fathers!
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got this in an email from the Calguns foundation this morning:
SB 249 MAY BE D.O.A.; STOP SB 249 CAMPAIGN URGES CONTINUED OPPOSITION PRESSURE
Cal-FFL, Calguns Foundation opposition letters cited in official Committee analysis that may be the final straw in breaking SB 249
For Immediate Release: August 14, 2012
Reference: Assembly Appropriations Committee Analysis at http://stopsb249.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/sb249_approps_analysis.pdf
SAN CARLOS, CA, AND MADERA, CA – In spite of bill author Senator Leland Yee’s many assurances to the contrary, even the Assembly Appropriations Committee legislative analysis found that the SB 249 gun ban presents California taxpayers with significant cost impacts.
The analysis determined that, among other major costs, SB 249 would impose “[o]ne-time special fund (Dealer Record of Sale Fund- DROS) costs, likely in excess of $200,000 (the AG's office estimates about $400,000), for the AG to conform existing regulations regarding the definition of assault weapon to the definition of detachable magazine proposed by this bill.”
Implicit in the Committee’s analysis is that SB 249 is a material legislative change to the Penal Code, which would require new DOJ regulations. Senator Yee and his staff have spent considerable time representing SB 249 to be a “clarification of existing law.” We now have further evidence in the Legislative record supporting our argument that SB 249 would harm California gun owners by creating an entirely new standard for “detachable magazine” firearms.
Up-to-the-minute information acquired by Cal-FFL lobbyist Matt Gray of Capital Alliance and Cal-FFL president Brandon Combs suggests that, while SB 249 may not succeed in passing the Appropriations Committee due to the substantial costs issues, it is premature to consider the bill a non-threat to gun rights.
“SB 249 has been proven to be an outrageous attack on hundreds of millions of dollars of legal private property and law-abiding gun owners. We’re encouraged that the Appropriation Committee’s analysis has affirmed our view that California simply cannot afford Senator Yee’s misguided bill,” said Combs. “We urge all of our members and supporters to continue vigorously opposing SB 249 by calling the members of the Appropriations Committee and using the Take Action tools at our StopSB249.org campaign website.”
The STOP SB 249 Take Action page is located at at http://stopsb249.org/takeaction.
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LATEST STOP SB 249 HEADLINES & UPDATES
Chris Cheng, History Channel's Top Shot season 4 champ and a truly awesome person, joined Stop SB 249 and called for people to oppose SB 249.
Cal-FFL is now accepting donations through Fundrazr and PayPal. FFLs and pro-gun businesses can join Cal-FFL online at http://calffl.org/join or contact Director of Development Jeff Silvester at jsilvester@calffl.org.
Calguns Foundation chairman Gene Hoffman debated Sen. Leland Yee on Capital Public Radio. It wasn't much of a debate - Mr. Hoffman clearly walked away from the experience with the title belt.
Cal-FFL and Calguns Foundation both submitted letters of opposition to the Appropriations Committee that were cited in the official Committee analysis.
Did the pathbreaking CGF / Cal-FFL STOP SB 249 campaign & StopSB249.org platform force Senator Yee to abandon his failed "conversion kit" ban and 'gut & amend' SB 249 (again) too late, killing SB 249 on rules?
North County Firearms (San Marcos) ran this hilarious ad in the paper to highlight the insanity of SB249.
Sacramento Black Rifle got in on the STOP SB 249 action big time by running a great radio spot on area FM stations.
Not to be outdone by Wes at Ten Percent Firearms, Jeff #2 at ["the infamous"] PRK Arms (Fresno) created another fantastic YouTube video on SB 249-compliant firearms, this time AK-47 platform guns.
We wonder how leg. staffers reacted to Ten Percent's ad for SB249guns.com in the Sacramento 'insider's daily news mag' Capitol Morning Report? (Look under 'Items for Sale'.)
We're still impressed by how many people have found out about Stop SB 249 and Sen. Yee's gun ban through circle track racer Chris Lambert's #50 Stop SB 249 car.
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looks like it did boil down to compensation and I think they have grossly under estimated the value of compensation. They would have to re-imburst just myself for atleast 5 dros's and that doesnt include or not sure if that would include the "other things ive bought and sold as well. some friends and I put together some stuff to be mailied 50 letters left my house yesterday!
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they have been trying to ban the bullet button for some time now, it hasn't pass and I don't see it passing! Either way FU CA, I’m keeping my AR, it also has a 30 round mag on it! Wait I live in Reno, this is legal……
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