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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
The 2nd amendment:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Where in the 2nd amendment deos it say that you can have a detachible high capacity magazine?

Where in the 2nd amendment deos it say that you have the right to own a grenade launcher, a tank, a machine gun or a bazooka?

The point is that that even though under the constitution we can own a fire arm, there are limits as to what type of fire arms we can own.

In the wake of the tragic mass shootings as in Arizona where a gunman with a high capacity fire arm killed several people and critically injured scores more, including a Congress woman; would that Arizona gunman have been able to kill and injure
So many people with out a 20+ round capacity fire arm? No.

It is time to take a serious look at our gun laws that in many states are to lax.

By the way, the term " regulated" is in the second amendment and with americans getting sick and tierd of these slime ball right wing gun nuts committing mass kilings,one can only hope that more gun regulation is comming.

hey JANET. gernade launchers, bazooka, machine guns and high cap magazines are ALREADY NOT LEGAL HERE! this is now an attack on gun owners rights to own a gun. also i already need to tool to remove my magazine.

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quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
The 2nd amendment:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Where in the 2nd amendment deos it say that you can have a detachible high capacity magazine?

Where in the 2nd amendment deos it say that you have the right to own a grenade launcher, a tank, a machine gun or a bazooka?

The point is that that even though under the constitution we can own a fire arm, there are limits as to what type of fire arms we can own.

In the wake of the tragic mass shootings as in Arizona where a gunman with a high capacity fire arm killed several people and critically injured scores more, including a Congress woman; would that Arizona gunman have been able to kill and injure
So many people with out a 20+ round capacity fire arm? No.

It is time to take a serious look at our gun laws that in many states are to lax.

By the way, the term " regulated" is in the second amendment and with americans getting sick and tierd of these slime ball right wing gun nuts committing mass kilings,one can only hope that more gun regulation is comming.

A "well regulated militia" simply means the people. The 2nd amendment guarantees our right to never be disarmed by law. If law enforcement/military need a certain set of weapons than we the people should be able to have an equal amount of weapons. The day that law enforcement/military do not need/use firearms is the day that I might consider not needing mine. I would consider that for less than a second then remember that our nation was built largely by firearms in the public hands. If the firearms in the public are removed then you have no choice but to obey whatever the government tells you to do and you have absolutely no say in anything. This is one of many reasons that the 2nd amendment was put in place.

If you wish to live in a place like this then move to somewhere that firearms are banned and the government thinks for you. Until then I agree with the post above. Sell your Mustang and buy a Nissan, or Toyota since you don't like to excersize your rights given to you by the Constitution of The United States of America. I'm sure there is something that is not a legal modification on your car, so at the very least you should go turn yourself in for that and take your punishment from the government.

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The guy in Arizona wasn't a right wing tea party member. He was a registered dem. Matter of fact not one of these recent shootings involved any member of the tea party or any affiliation with the Republican party.

If you really wanna stop crimes and want to single out a large group of people then I'd suggest taking every gun from the registered Democrats.
Think about it...... A large majority of crime is committed by African American males. That being said 95% of the African American population in America voted Democrat in 2008's election.

I bet crimes commited with a firearm would drop off the map if you took every gun, registered or not registered away from every single person that votes democrat in every election.

Who cares about the constitutionality of if. Just think of all the innocent lives we could save by not allowing democrats to own guns period!!!!!

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A militia deos not simply mean the people; a militia refers to a well regulated army.


"This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by congress."

By the way, i am not talking about banning guns, all I am saying is that the time has come to regulate fire arms even more.

it is madness that Republicans want to regulate porn and abortions, but not guns.

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quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
A militia deos not simply mean the people; a militia refers to a well regulated army.


"This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by congress."

By the way, i am not talking about banning guns, all I am saying is that the time has come to regulate fire arms even more.

it is madness that Republicans want to regulate porn and abortions, but not guns.

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We should regulate the crazy assholes who buy them, not the guns.

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You are incorrect slowback67, the Arizona shooter was regesterd as an independent and hated the government.

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wasent there some crazy muslim black guy and his son shooting random people with a sniper rifle a few years back?

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Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
wasent there some crazy muslim black guy and his son shooting random people with a sniper rifle a few years back?

Yeah... I remeber that shit... They made a compartment in the trunk of their car and was shooting mofos out of the trunk key hole... Was hella crazy

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quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
We should regulate the crazy assholes who buy them, not the guns.

Extensive back ground checks and waiting periods would address your first point, however, Americans should not be able to buy what ever weapon they want. There has to be a limit.

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quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
We should regulate the crazy assholes who buy them, not the guns.

Extensive back ground checks and waiting periods would address your first point, however, Americans should not be able to buy what ever weapon they want. There has to be a limit.
There are limitations, I can't go out and purchase an AT4, I wish I could but that's not happening. To own a fully auto you have to go through the ATF for a class III which is extensive and takes awhile, after you've received your class III the ATF can come to your house whenever they please. I can go out right now and purchase a firearm off of a guy in a parking lot, I've done it numerous times and will continue to do it. The government does not need to know which weapons I have, it doesn't benefit them to know.

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quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
We should regulate the crazy assholes who buy them, not the guns.

Extensive back ground checks and waiting periods would address your first point, however, Americans should not be able to buy what ever weapon they want. There has to be a limit.
COM,ON JANET! americans should not be able to buy what ever weapon they want [Confused] [Confused]
if i want it ill buy it you can keep your baby 22 pal [Embarrassed]

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
You are incorrect slowback67, the Arizona shooter was regesterd as an independent and hated the government.

Your right..... He wasn't a democrat & he wasn't a right winger Republican either. I just wanted you to know how it feels having someone like that guy grouped into YOUR political party for a change.
They tried everything they could in the news to make people think that he was a tea party member. [Wink] Hell they even tried to tie the shooter to Sarah Pallin LOL.

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WHAT GUNS? i have no such thing... [Wink]

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
Two words I've been saying for many years.....BUY AMMO!

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quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
We should regulate the crazy assholes who buy them, not the guns.

Extensive back ground checks and waiting periods would address your first point, however, Americans should not be able to buy what ever weapon they want. There has to be a limit.
You do know that the Federal AWB did not ban anything other than the new manufacture of assault weapons with certain features and hi-cap mags. Anything manufactured prior to the ban was still able to be bought and sold like any other gun. Also, manufacturers were still able to make and sell the same functional firearms such as AKs and ARs, but just without "evil features" like a barrel shroud or a bayonet lug. Essentially the ban banned nothing. The Government cannot simply ban possession of legally purchased items and simply come confiscate them. We still have the 5th and 14th Amendments.

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quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
A militia deos not simply mean the people; a militia refers to a well regulated army.


"This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by congress."

By the way, i am not talking about banning guns, all I am saying is that the time has come to regulate fire arms even more.

it is madness that Republicans want to regulate porn and abortions, but not guns.

You either have the right, or you don't there is no middle ground. I agree there are certain people that should not be allowed anywhere near a firearm, but our right as americans is to keep and bear arms. If you ban all firearms then everyone with arms will be a criminal by law. I will not give up any of my firearms even if they were going to pay me twice what I paid for them. There are millions more that will join me in the revolution against tyranny.

As someone else has said. Typically by the time
the vast majority of Americans have got up and made their way to work they have broken at least one law, most likely a few laws. We already have far too many laws regulating what we can and cannot do. We do not need more.

Just the other day I was pulled over by a Sheriff because I drove my car around a pot hole. He made me pop my hood, asked what modifications I have done(any and all of my modifications are CARB certified), asked me how many tickets I have(zero)
then proceeded to harass me on why I was driving "erratically" by simply avoiding a huge pot hole in the road. This type of harassment has happened to me on more than one occasion. I was never issued a ticket because I hadn't even broken any laws.

If you wish to have further harassment then keep saying we need more laws to be "safe". In case you havent noticed law enforcement is no longer obligated to protect you in times of distress. Just look at their patrol cars they no longer say "to protect and serve" they just say something like "service with concern" when/if someone invades this country do you think they are going to do so with rifles that have fixed magazines, bullet buttons, and 10 round magazines? Do you think the police, and military are going to come save your family?

Additionally criminals do not buy guns from gun stores. They get them from the black market and always will. Even law enforcement has been caught selling weapons to criminals.

I am 100% behind having no gun laws, but even I would be behind laws that stiffen penalties for criminals using firearms during the commission of crimes, or for even having a firearm at all. If a criminal(previous felon) knew they would be possibly serving life in prison for having a firearm on them at any time they just might think twice about having a firearm. Stiffen criminal penalties, not ban firearms from law abiding, tax paying, hard working Americans. Use some common sense.

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Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:
Two words I've been saying for many years.....BUY AMMO!

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THIS bill willnever pass
these idoits really think banning guns or making these guns illegal is really gonna stop some crazyed retard from killing people? [Roll Eyes]

hope they dont try and ban my crossbow [Frown]

In this state it has a HUGE chance of passing.

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Originally posted by wilit:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
We should regulate the crazy assholes who buy them, not the guns.

Extensive back ground checks and waiting periods would address your first point, however, Americans should not be able to buy what ever weapon they want. There has to be a limit.
You do know that the Federal AWB did not ban anything other than the new manufacture of assault weapons with certain features and hi-cap mags. Anything manufactured prior to the ban was still able to be bought and sold like any other gun. Also, manufacturers were still able to make and sell the same functional firearms such as AKs and ARs, but just without "evil features" like a barrel shroud or a bayonet lug. Essentially the ban banned nothing. The Government cannot simply ban possession of legally purchased items and simply come confiscate them. We still have the 5th and 14th Amendments.
I thought the Federal ban just grandfather in pre-ban weapons meaning you couldn't ever sell your gun and when you die you can't give it away in your will it has to be destroyed, or is that only in CA?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
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Originally posted by wilit:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
We should regulate the crazy assholes who buy them, not the guns.

Extensive back ground checks and waiting periods would address your first point, however, Americans should not be able to buy what ever weapon they want. There has to be a limit.
You do know that the Federal AWB did not ban anything other than the new manufacture of assault weapons with certain features and hi-cap mags. Anything manufactured prior to the ban was still able to be bought and sold like any other gun. Also, manufacturers were still able to make and sell the same functional firearms such as AKs and ARs, but just without "evil features" like a barrel shroud or a bayonet lug. Essentially the ban banned nothing. The Government cannot simply ban possession of legally purchased items and simply come confiscate them. We still have the 5th and 14th Amendments.
I thought the Federal ban just grandfather in pre-ban weapons meaning you couldn't ever sell your gun and when you die you can't give it away in your will it has to be destroyed, or is that only in CA?
California is the only state that doesn't allow the transfer of AW's. Even NJ and NY allow the sale of pre-ban firearms like the Fed AWB did. A little interesting tid-bit of information the anti's either don't know or refuse to acknowledge that their bans do nothing.

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Well the real reason for the bans is to slowy take away the 2nd amendment al together. They know if they tried to do it all at one time it wouldn't work. But if you just take away something a little bit at a time..... It's easier to do.
This law is suppost to be about public safety...... It's really all about the politicians safety to do whatever they want..... And make it harder to fight back about it.

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Americans are getting tired of all these mass shootings and all of you gun blasting right wing lunatics better get used to tougher gun laws, because they are coming.

As it is now, our nation's gun laws are too loose and lax. At minimum, super extensive back ground checks and gun registration need to be in place. Did you know that Americans on the terrorist have still been able to buy guns? That is just crazy.

I laugh at the paranoid gun nuts that think tougher gun laws will take away their freedom and librety away from them.

So let me ask you this, you gun blasting FOX news watching fools, if the government deos something you don't like, are you going to take care of it with your gun?

[ August 10, 2012, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: cobraracer46 ]

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quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Americans are getting tired of all these mass shootings and all of you gun blasting right wing lunatics better get used to tougher gun laws, because they are coming.

As it is now, our nation's gun laws are too loose and lax. At minimum, super extensive back ground checks and gun registration need to be in place. Did you know that Americans on the terrorist have still been able to buy guns? That is just crazy.

I laugh at the paranoid gun nuts that think tougher gun laws will take away their freedom and librety away from them.

So let me ask you this, you gun blasting FOX news watching fools, if the government deos something you don't like, are you going to take care of it with your gun?

This is Janet aka cobraracer the liberal wearing his faggish bicycling shirt showing off his gun.

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Americans are getting tired of all these mass shootings and all of you gun blasting right wing lunatics better get used to tougher gun laws, because they are coming.

As it is now, our nation's gun laws are too loose and lax. At minimum, super extensive back ground checks and gun registration need to be in place. Did you know that Americans on the terrorist have still been able to buy guns? That is just crazy.

I laugh at the paranoid gun nuts that think tougher gun laws will take away their freedom and librety away from them.

So let me ask you this, you gun blasting FOX news watching fools, if the government deos something you don't like, are you going to take care of it with your gun?

With Cho (Virginia Tech), Loughner (arizona), and Holmes (colorado), all three showed mental issues that would have prevented them from purchasing a firearm. Those laws have been in place for a long time. The problem is not enough laws, but a failure of the system. Cho's medical history was never loaded into the system that the NiCS background system checks. Had it been, he would have been denied the purchase. Loughner and Holmes both had visible problems that apparently lots of people knew about but failed to act.

Also, California already has mandatory registration for all assault weapons and handguns purchases after 2000. Starting in 2013 (I think) all new purchases of rifles and shotguns will be registered. I would really like to know though, how you figure registration would prevent a tragedy like the three I mentioned when the system itself is at fault for failing to prevent the firearm from being purchased?

Also, I admire your willingness to prevent guns from falling into the hands of criminals. You should write to your Congressmen and Senators and tell them you want justice for all of the Assault Weapons our government KNOWINGLY sold to Mexican cartels with zero oversight in Operation Fast and Furious.

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"If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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