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quote: Originally posted by fredfifty: if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?
That is what I asked earlier too!! My experience is peeps that carry guns, tend to let they nuts hang a lil more than usual. [ March 21, 2012, 12:02 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
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quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by fredfifty: if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?
That is what I asked earlier too!! My experience is peeps that carry guns, tend to let they nuts hang a lil more than usual.
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quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by fredfifty: if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?
That is what I asked earlier too!! My experience is peeps that carry guns, tend to let they nuts hang a lil more than usual.
That's not always the case. Like I said before, the areas where I have visited where I know it's a gun friendly state, people are usually more polite to me as well as others. That's on an individual basis though. An asshole will still be an asshole, gun, grenade, rocket launcher, nukes, or not.
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quote: Originally posted by DLo: quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by fredfifty: if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?
That is what I asked earlier too!! My experience is peeps that carry guns, tend to let they nuts hang a lil more than usual.
That's not always the case. Like I said before, the areas where I have visited where I know it's a gun friendly state, people are usually more polite to me as well as others. That's on an individual basis though. An asshole will still be an asshole, gun, grenade, rocket launcher, nukes, or not.
Yea I know there are exceptions, this was a generalization based on my experience(s). No disrespect to those that carry themselves correctly.
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i was surfing the web and found out that guy did a police report and here is a drawing of the suspect
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quote: Originally posted by fredfifty: if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?
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Well at least no one go shot and no one went to jail. I personally am all for responsible people carrying, owning, shooting as many guns as they wish. But you have to admit a lot of guys out there buy a gun and some gear and instantly think they are Special Forces SWAT Airborne Agent Orange XJ900! [ March 21, 2012, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: fstryde3 ]
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yea thats exacty why i dont have a gun because it made the situation more serious than it needed to be. wat if dude had a gun too? u guna have a shoot out over bad driving??? fucking stupid as fuck.
riding aroudn with a gun for protection why? u so paranoid doin shit that u shouldnt be or wat???
once u pull that trigger u guuna be in a situation that u regret and wish u werent in. all because u think u need the gun.
u dont seem responsible enough to carry a gun u should have swallowed ur pride and not brake checked him and it woulndt have happened, thats the bottom line.
and on top of that ur in arizona. gimme a break. [ March 21, 2012, 09:59 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
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quote: Originally posted by coupe5oh: quote: Originally posted by fredfifty: if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?
probably
I'll take that as "No".
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billy badass carries a gun dont gotta take shit from noone.
u know dam well u wouldnt have brake checked him without ur piece.
u wanted to pull it on somone, not shoot, but i can tell from what ive read from you [ March 21, 2012, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
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quote: Originally posted by sneakyfox90: billy badass carries a gun dont gotta take shit from noone.
u know dam well u wouldnt have brake checked him without ur piece.
u wanted to pull it on somone, not shoot, but i cant tell from what ive read from you
I agree. If you HAD to pull ur gun on him, your thread would have said "Had to pull my pistol on someone" rather than "got to pull my pistol on someone." This thread shouldn't have even been started. No need to gloat about pulling your gun on someone.. keep that to yourself. Its not "cool" to carry a loaded gun at all times. Just because you live in AZ doesn't mean you MUST carry a piece. Peter, I'm your friend.. but this shit seriously pisses me off cuz that's exactly how people get killed. What if the guy had a gun, you both shot at each other, and an innocent bystander got hit like a little kid? Not cool, awsome, sick or something to be bragging about.. rant over.
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quote: Originally posted by WildFire532FB: quote: Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang: quote: Originally posted by svfreerider87: I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.
That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.
Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.
I think you missed the point, since he provoked the situation by brake checking the dude, he would have seen jail time more than likely if he shot or killed him. The dude with the knife felt threatened, he is lucky he just had a knife and not a gun because brake checking someone you could kill them if they crashed into you. So that dude felt threatened and jumped out with a knife.
Right, but brake checking and cutting people off is an action that happens to everyone at least once a month. Should road rage escalate to the point where u pull in front of them and brake check them? No, bit it happens thousands of times a day. Then there are people who take it to a whole new height. Clearly the guy wasn't scared if he hopped out with a knife, he was pissed and wanted to fuck peter up. At that point its not about road rage, its about dude coming at u with a lethal weapon.
One of the saddest things about California is that everyone has to walk with their tail between their legs just to conserve their constitutional rights (or what's left of it). Someone can hop my fence and try to kidnap my dog (who I happen to consider a family member), can't shoot em. Someone brakes into ur house and swings a chair at u when u confront them, can't shoot em. Catch someone drilling out the lock cylinder to start the mustang u built with your own blood sweat and tears, can't shoot em. California is only making things easier for criminals when they know law abiding citizens can't really defend themselves. My reason for this 2nd paragraph rant is that most of us can't relate to out of state gun confrontation stories like this because we could never do anything like that and would instantly be frowned upon
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quote: Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.: quote: Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang: quote: Originally posted by svfreerider87: I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.
That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.
Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.
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quote: Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang: quote: Originally posted by WildFire532FB: quote: Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang: quote: Originally posted by svfreerider87: I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.
That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.
Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.
I think you missed the point, since he provoked the situation by brake checking the dude, he would have seen jail time more than likely if he shot or killed him. The dude with the knife felt threatened, he is lucky he just had a knife and not a gun because brake checking someone you could kill them if they crashed into you. So that dude felt threatened and jumped out with a knife.
Right, but brake checking and cutting people off is an action that happens to everyone at least once a month. Should road rage escalate to the point where u pull in front of them and brake check them? No, bit it happens thousands of times a day. Then there are people who take it to a whole new height. Clearly the guy wasn't scared if he hopped out with a knife, he was pissed and wanted to fuck peter up. At that point its not about road rage, its about dude coming at u with a lethal weapon.
One of the saddest things about California is that everyone has to walk with their tail between their legs just to conserve their constitutional rights (or what's left of it). Someone can hop my fence and try to kidnap my dog (who I happen to consider a family member), can't shoot em. Someone brakes into ur house and swings a chair at u when u confront them, can't shoot em. Catch someone drilling out the lock cylinder to start the mustang u built with your own blood sweat and tears, can't shoot em. California is only making things easier for criminals when they know law abiding citizens can't really defend themselves. My reason for this 2nd paragraph rant is that most of us can't relate to out of state gun confrontation stories like this because we could never do anything like that and would instantly be frowned upon
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He purposefully brakechecked the guy in retaliation and then pulled over, with malicious intent, like i said previously why didn't he just drive away when the idiot jumped out, no need to one up him with a pistol. Yea getting your mustang broken into sucks, but is someones life really worth a 5k mustang? if you caught them and you were armed you could hold them at bay till the cops got there, and if he were armed, then you could legally defend yourself, ya our laws kind of blow when it comes to protecting your home, but this whole gung-ho wild west attitude will lead to nothing but the grave or behind bars. and as for the out of state gun incidents, this one in peticular, if the event transpired exactly as he said, he is way in the wrong, IMO he's lucky the guy wasn't armed and some bystander didn't get caught in the aftermath, how would that have been justified? we aren't jumping down his throat because we hate guns, he showed little to no respect to how somone who carries a firearm should act when carrying. I understand your frustration but these examples don't ad up. and as for someone stealing your dog? where do you live that's so hood that people jack dogs? get out of there lol.
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so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked
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quote: Originally posted by triple b: so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked
yes but he pulled over knowing damn well some confrontation would ensue, aka with MALICIOUS INTENT, didn't say his truck died or there was bumper to bumper traffic preventing him from pulling away.
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quote: Originally posted by svfreerider87: quote: Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang: quote: Originally posted by WildFire532FB: quote: Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang: quote: Originally posted by svfreerider87: I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.
That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.
Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.
I think you missed the point, since he provoked the situation by brake checking the dude, he would have seen jail time more than likely if he shot or killed him. The dude with the knife felt threatened, he is lucky he just had a knife and not a gun because brake checking someone you could kill them if they crashed into you. So that dude felt threatened and jumped out with a knife.
Right, but brake checking and cutting people off is an action that happens to everyone at least once a month. Should road rage escalate to the point where u pull in front of them and brake check them? No, bit it happens thousands of times a day. Then there are people who take it to a whole new height. Clearly the guy wasn't scared if he hopped out with a knife, he was pissed and wanted to fuck peter up. At that point its not about road rage, its about dude coming at u with a lethal weapon.
One of the saddest things about California is that everyone has to walk with their tail between their legs just to conserve their constitutional rights (or what's left of it). Someone can hop my fence and try to kidnap my dog (who I happen to consider a family member), can't shoot em. Someone brakes into ur house and swings a chair at u when u confront them, can't shoot em. Catch someone drilling out the lock cylinder to start the mustang u built with your own blood sweat and tears, can't shoot em. California is only making things easier for criminals when they know law abiding citizens can't really defend themselves. My reason for this 2nd paragraph rant is that most of us can't relate to out of state gun confrontation stories like this because we could never do anything like that and would instantly be frowned upon
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He purposefully brakechecked the guy in retaliation and then pulled over, with malicious intent, like i said previously why didn't he just drive away when the idiot jumped out, no need to one up him with a pistol. Yea getting your mustang broken into sucks, but is someones life really worth a 5k mustang? if you caught them and you were armed you could hold them at bay till the cops got there, and if he were armed, then you could legally defend yourself, ya our laws kind of blow when it comes to protecting your home, but this whole gung-ho wild west attitude will lead to nothing but the grave or behind bars. and as for the out of state gun incidents, this one in peticular, if the event transpired exactly as he said, he is way in the wrong, IMO he's lucky the guy wasn't armed and some bystander didn't get caught in the aftermath, how would that have been justified? we aren't jumping down his throat because we hate guns, he showed little to no respect to how somone who carries a firearm should act when carrying. I understand your frustration but these examples don't ad up. and as for someone stealing your dog? where do you live that's so hood that people jack dogs? get out of there lol.
U make good points. And as for the dog thing, my dog personally has never been stolen lol, or I'd be in jail from the aftermath of getting him back. 3 people I know have had their dogs stolen. One was stolen in east Oakland and used as the fight initiator for training dogs to fight and was found dead mauled, it makes me furious just typing this. The second was in pleasanton of all places and the 3rd was in san bruno, also surprising. The other 2 dogs were never found.
But anyways, enough about pet theft. Everybody be responsible with firearms and other weapons, and stand up to preserve our right to bear arms. We need more support from young people.
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quote: Originally posted by triple b: so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked
oh please give me a break
common fucking sence would tell you its never a good idea to break check somone. theres consequence for your actions and OBVIOUSLY he wasnt trippin cus he was legally packing. anD thats WHY he DID IT
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quote: Originally posted by svfreerider87: quote: Originally posted by triple b: so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked
yes but he pulled over knowing damn well some confrontation would ensue, aka with MALICIOUS INTENT, didn't say his truck died or there was bumper to bumper traffic preventing him from pulling away.
never did i say i pulled over..i said he pulled up to me at the stop light
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quote: Originally posted by coupe5oh: quote: Originally posted by svfreerider87: quote: Originally posted by triple b: so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked
yes but he pulled over knowing damn well some confrontation would ensue, aka with MALICIOUS INTENT, didn't say his truck died or there was bumper to bumper traffic preventing him from pulling away.
never did i say i pulled over..i said he pulled up to me at the stop light
wow so you were going to discharge your firearm from a moving vehicle? It is unlawful to carry a firearm concealed within the immediate control of any person in or on a means of transportation. This does not apply to firearms carried in a case, holster or in a means of transportation or a storage compartment, trunk, pack, luggage, or glove compartment of a means of transportation. # No person shall discharge a firearm from a motor vehicle, including an automobile, aircraft, train, boat or floating object towed by powerboat or sailboat., so you would have been guilty of that crime for sure. and again why didn't you drive away if you never stopped? you wanted the situation to escalate so you could show your phoney cajones.
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Was he gonna stab your car? It's this type of shit that makes it so hard for ordinary people to be armed, laws in cali are in place cus of shit like this, read those articles in AZ, shits crazy.
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quote: Originally posted by 93coupessp: Usually you just let the dumb shit go its never worth battling with people for position In a car no matter how mad you got over what they did. When people cut me off fuck em they're too stupid anyhow. And I also live by the old old school rule I never pull my weapon unless I'm gonna use it
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