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Posted by coupe5oh (Member # 10411) on :
 
i know this my seem like a gloating thread but in all seriousness its really not...owning and carrying a gun is a big responsibility..so here is the story...by the way i now live in AZ so as far as me carrying a loaded gun its legal..

im driving on the streets to get home cause the freeway is to packed..im doing the speed limit and some asshole decided it was a good idea to cut me off....so i get back in front of him and brake check him hella hard(not needed i know i know) so he pulls up to me at the next stop light and hops out his car with a knife in his hand...so i pulled my pistol..he hopped back in his car and a sped off making a right turn...

it definetly a experience but hey its what i bought the pistol for...
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Should've shot him, pussay.
 
Posted by coupe5oh (Member # 10411) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Should've shot him, pussay.

imma shoot your skinny ass when i come back lol...kenny said the same thing on facebook lol
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coupe5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Should've shot him, pussay.

imma shoot your skinny ass when i come back lol...kenny said the same thing on facebook lol
Unless you aim somewhere besides my torso you'd be losing [Wink]

Lol he did? He's the biggest pussy of them all!
 
Posted by 93coupessp (Member # 8418) on :
 
Usually you just let the dumb shit go its never worth battling with people for position In a car no matter how mad you got over what they did. When people cut me off fuck em they're too stupid anyhow. And I also live by the old old school rule I never pull my weapon unless I'm gonna use it
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Dude brought a knife to a gun fight LOL. I had a swell guy swerve and brake check me while driving a big rig Monday. He was upset he wasn't paying attention merging onto the freeway and had to hit the shoulder to not get sideswiped by my trailor.


Happy you didn't have to shoot the guy. Maybe he will learn its not wise to road rage with strangers. You already know it wasn't the best idea brake checking him either LOL
 
Posted by coupe5oh (Member # 10411) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by coupe5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Should've shot him, pussay.

imma shoot your skinny ass when i come back lol...kenny said the same thing on facebook lol
Unless you aim somewhere besides my torso you'd be losing [Wink]

Lol he did? He's the biggest pussy of them all!

yea go look on my profile...

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Dude brought a knife to a gun fight LOL. I had a swell guy swerve and brake check me while driving a big rig Monday. He was upset he wasn't paying attention merging onto the freeway and had to hit the shoulder to not get sideswiped by my trailor.


Happy you didn't have to shoot the guy. Maybe he will learn its not wise to road rage with strangers. You already know it wasn't the best idea brake checking him either LOL

yea it was a experience tho

[ March 20, 2012, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: coupe5oh ]
 
Posted by 5LTR SVT (Member # 7080) on :
 
The situation could have been avoided if u would have been the better man and not stooped to his level by deciding to brake check him

[ March 20, 2012, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: 5LTR SVT ]
 
Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
The situation could have been avoided if u would have been the better man and not stooped to his level brake checking him back

I agree, pulling a gun is serious shit but him pulling a knife is also very serious. Being able to carry a gun may keep you safe but may also get you killed if you are not careful. It's best to just avoid these types of situations all around if you can. There's is nothing cool about hurting someone or getting hurt yourself.

Stay safe bro and keep things in perspective.
 
Posted by slidewayz94 (Member # 3101) on :
 
What a dumbass you are and an irresponsible gun owner.
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slidewayz94:
What a dumbass you are and an irresponsible gun owner.

Yep, your a fucking douchebag
 
Posted by blown95svt (Member # 8893) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slidewayz94:
What a dumbass you are and an irresponsible gun owner.

+1! only pull if you are in fear of your life and are GONNA use it! you provoked it. you could have easily driven away when the guy got out or simply not have pulled over. in ca if you did that with a ccw permit, you would never be able to own a firearm form my understanding.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Brake checking him caused the entire situation, definitely not smart and i wouldn't say your a responsible gun owner for putting yourself in that situation.
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
Looks like this backfired on him. [Razz]
 
Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on :
 
Guy hops out his car all tough with a swiss army knife. Youre just like come at me bro.

In all seriousness i probably would have done some shit like brake check him too. and if he came at me with a knife and i had a gun id pull it too.
 
Posted by triple black hatch (Member # 5420) on :
 
Hope you don't run into him again and this time he has a gun too. Some times you gotta be a better man and avoid situations like that.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
I wonder if you would have brake checked him had you not had a gun? Seems like when you carry a gun you should be more ready to temper your judgment with caution, most that carry a gun often look for a reason to pull it. But thats just my opinion.

Glad everyone walked away though. [patriot]
 
Posted by WIKD 281 (Member # 40) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by triple black hatch:
Hope you don't run into him again and this time he has a gun too. Some times you gotta be a better man and avoid situations like that.

Thats always my biggest fear. Its a small world and you never know who is willing to take it to the next level and has a lot less to loose.
 
Posted by Fast(er) Eddie (Member # 4737) on :
 
Wow, looks like the training was failed upon you. I've been carrying for years, and what you did, was the exact antithesis of what you should of picked up from your training. If in this event, albeit your direct provocation in this situation, you felt threatened(man with a knife endangering your LIFE per se) After drawing SUL and having the subject drop their weapon, you should of contacted the authorities and reported the situation waiting until authorities arrived. What you did was brandish a firearm under the pretense of a law that allows you to carry a CONCEALED weapon.

Situation could of been easily avoided, please do not become a statistical reason that challenges my right to carry correctly.

No hard feelings here, and not attempting to call you out. (you are in fact a CCW holder LOL)

Be safe out there goddamnit!!!!!!!
 
Posted by 9cobrasnake9 (Member # 575) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fast(er) Eddie:
Wow, looks like the training was failed upon you. I've been carrying for years, and what you did, was the exact antithesis of what you should of picked up from your training. If in this event, albeit your direct provocation in this situation, you felt threatened(man with a knife endangering your LIFE per se) After drawing SUL and having the subject drop their weapon, you should of contacted the authorities and reported the situation waiting until authorities arrived. What you did was brandish a firearm under the pretense of a law that allows you to carry a CONCEALED weapon.

Situation could of been easily avoided, please do not become a statistical reason that challenges my right to carry correctly.

No hard feelings here, and not attempting to call you out. (you are in fact a CCW holder LOL)

Be safe out there goddamnit!!!!!!!

I agree with Fast (er). Truthfully in a court of law if you did have to shoot him you would prob be found guilty of manslaughter. As a responsible ccw holder you need to be conscious that you are never escalating a situation. If violence can be avoided, that route needs to be taken...
 
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coupe5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Should've shot him, pussay.

imma shoot your skinny ass when i come back lol...kenny said the same thing on facebook lol
For reals you gonna pull on somebody you use it. It came at you with a knife. I woulda blasted his ass.

He came at you with a deadly weapon bro. Shoulda pulled. Been there done that [patriot]
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
I would've just driven away when he got out with a weapon, better hope the next person you draw down on isn't faster than you.(since you live in az you are likely to have someone else draw back).what if you killed him? what would your story have been, I caused a road rage incident over some dumb little shit, and it resulted in this man losing his life. I'd advise you take some tactical pistol shooting courses, you sound like the most irresponsible gun owner ever.
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I would've just driven away when he got out with a weapon, better hope the next person you draw down on isn't faster than you.(since you live in az you are likely to have someone else draw back).what if you killed him? what would your story have been, I caused a road rage incident over some dumb little shit, and it resulted in this man losing his life. I'd advise you take some tactical pistol shooting courses, you sound like the most irresponsible gun owner ever.

Well put. [patriot]
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
wow all these pissed off people over drawing a gun?!? i have been shot before and trust me it will get brandished any time some threatens my life again. Good job thats what the gun is there for. To protect you although 10% knife fights actually end up in some one getting stabbed you can never be too sure. Yeah you should not have been provoking but hey what if that was some ones else that did that and now they are stabbed. All these people dont know what its like to pull out a gun and use it or be shot or shot at by one point blank range. Im keep it real. real fuking real if any pulled a knife

[ March 20, 2012, 11:42 PM: Message edited by: triple b ]
 
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I would've just driven away when he got out with a weapon, better hope the next person you draw down on isn't faster than you.(since you live in az you are likely to have someone else draw back).what if you killed him? what would your story have been, I caused a road rage incident over some dumb little shit, and it resulted in this man losing his life. I'd advise you take some tactical pistol shooting courses, you sound like the most irresponsible gun owner ever.

Ture dat. You gotta ask why this guys is gettin outa his car with a knife in the frist place? What if this fool wanted to stab him? And had peta running around yelling ( a bro I'm sorry I'm just playin!) Fuck that you gota knife I gotta gun get back in car and keppin pushin bro.

I really don't understand some of you guys comments? If some motherfucker comes into your house wih a knife you anit gonna do shit if has a knife in his hand?

What if you accedently cut someone off and they get out the car and comes towards you? Weapon or not? You gonna sit and appoglze? Yea sorry? Must people here nowa days take it the next level.
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I would've just driven away when he got out with a weapon, better hope the next person you draw down on isn't faster than you.(since you live in az you are likely to have someone else draw back).what if you killed him? what would your story have been, I caused a road rage incident over some dumb little shit, and it resulted in this man losing his life. I'd advise you take some tactical pistol shooting courses, you sound like the most irresponsible gun owner ever.

Ture dat. You gotta ask why this guys is gettin outa his car with a knife in the frist place? What if this fool wanted to stab him? And had peta running around yelling ( a bro I'm sorry I'm just playin!) Fuck that you gota knife I gotta gun get back in car and keppin pushin bro.

I really don't understand some of you guys comments? If some motherfucker comes into your house wih a knife you anit gonna do shit if has a knife in his hand?

What if you accedently cut someone off and they get out the car and comes towards you? Weapon or not? You gonna sit and appoglze? Yea sorry? Must people here nowa days take it the next level.

House and provoking a car are two DIFFERENT scenerio's!
 
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
Blue are telling me that someone comes at you with a knife your not gonna do anything? ????

I'm just sayin
 
Posted by Hele On (Member # 4107) on :
 
nevermind

[ March 21, 2012, 12:02 AM: Message edited by: Hele On ]
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I would've just driven away when he got out with a weapon, better hope the next person you draw down on isn't faster than you.(since you live in az you are likely to have someone else draw back).what if you killed him? what would your story have been, I caused a road rage incident over some dumb little shit, and it resulted in this man losing his life. I'd advise you take some tactical pistol shooting courses, you sound like the most irresponsible gun owner ever.

Ture dat. You gotta ask why this guys is gettin outa his car with a knife in the frist place? What if this fool wanted to stab him? And had peta running around yelling ( a bro I'm sorry I'm just playin!) Fuck that you gota knife I gotta gun get back in car and keppin pushin bro.

I really don't understand some of you guys comments? If some motherfucker comes into your house wih a knife you anit gonna do shit if has a knife in his hand?

What if you accedently cut someone off and they get out the car and comes towards you? Weapon or not? You gonna sit and appoglze? Yea sorry? Must people here nowa days take it the next level.

well, like i said the second the guy got out with a knife i would have driven off, no harm to anyone involved, and as for if your at home that's a completeley different situation, your home is your castle, you have the right to defend it if in fear for your life.
 
Posted by bentley mobs a stang (Member # 11119) on :
 
Shoot first ask questions later. Yeah u could have avoided the situation, but we all can say that about ourselves at one point of time. At the end of the day I'm not gunna be the one dying when SHTF. U can't testify with a bullet in ur brain. A lot of responsibility comes with owning a gun, let alone carrying one. But I'm not about to get shot or stabbed just because I brake checked someone and I'm "in the wrong". BUT... if I pull it out, ima use it.
 
Posted by 1ST0KGT (Member # 10606) on :
 
Dumbfuck
 
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
Shoot first ask questions later. Yeah u could have avoided the situation, but we all can say that about ourselves at one point of time. At the end of the day I'm not gunna be the one dying when SHTF. U can't testify with a bullet in ur brain. A lot of responsibility comes with owning a gun, let alone carrying one. But I'm not about to get shot or stabbed just because I brake checked someone and I'm "in the wrong". BUT... if I pull it out, ima use it.

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
[Roll Eyes] yea what hind n.o.s said
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
He did good no body can say whats right or wrong in that situation its up to our "fight or flight" instinct and you have the fight instinct. some people freeze up and some people run its just a natural response but me im shoot if he made any advancing move toward me if not spped away after he stands down
 
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
I think most everyone here can bash on this guy all they want, but I'm going to take this one as a lesson. Especially when I drive through Arizona, Texas, or any other gun friendly state - the few times I have gone, I try and remember that you never know who might be carrying. It's best to just be polite to others and let it go. I don't know about others, but I definitely have a road rage problem when I come across jerks like that. It's tough to just bite your lip and let it go during the spur of the moment. Thought the thread starter was going to be a cop until I started reading. I'm glad nobody got hurt over something so stupid.
 
Posted by 68gtscode (Member # 8679) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fast(er) Eddie:
Wow, looks like the training was failed upon you. I've been carrying for years, and what you did, was the exact antithesis of what you should of picked up from your training. If in this event, albeit your direct provocation in this situation, you felt threatened(man with a knife endangering your LIFE per se) After drawing SUL and having the subject drop their weapon, you should of contacted the authorities and reported the situation waiting until authorities arrived. What you did was brandish a firearm under the pretense of a law that allows you to carry a CONCEALED weapon.

Situation could of been easily avoided, please do not become a statistical reason that challenges my right to carry correctly.

No hard feelings here, and not attempting to call you out. (you are in fact a CCW holder LOL)

Be safe out there goddamnit!!!!!!!

Well said. I don't want to lecture either, but keep in mind that things could have easily gone very different... and you would likely be sitting in jail for many years because someone cut you off in traffic.
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
I think most everyone here can bash on this guy all they want, but I'm going to take this one as a lesson. Especially when I drive through Arizona, Texas, or any other gun friendly state - the few times I have gone, I try and remember that you never know who might be carrying. It's best to just be polite to others and let it go. I don't know about others, but I definitely have a road rage problem when I come across jerks like that. It's tough to just bite your lip and let it go during the spur of the moment. Thought the thread starter was going to be a cop until I started reading. I'm glad nobody got hurt over something so stupid.

they better be careful D, you look like kimbo slice's big brother.
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.
 
Posted by bentley mobs a stang (Member # 11119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.

That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.

Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.

That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.

Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.

I don't have a problem with your answer, I am an active gun enthusiast/hunter, who knows how to properly handle firearms, this situation would have been unjustifieable to some degree, maybe a manslaughter charge, point being be careful, it's not as easy as I was scared so I shot him, I've studied law and believe me many a people have the exact same attitude as this individual and have ended up dead or behind bars or both.
 
Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :
 
As crazy as people are, I learned to just ignore shit to a certain point, everyone is bound to get cut off by an asshole drive because they're everywhere, so I maintain my cool, and laugh when they are stopped at the next light because they didn't get anywhere...
We all get heated over asshole drivers, but not worth wasting my time trying to get at them...like someone said...the brake check was wrong, then after that, it went to shit. I hope this is a learning experience. I recommend taking classes on concealed carry and firearms tactics...and becareful carrying. I don't want to get in the crossfire with Someone who started an unnecessary shooting.
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
Sounds like you're carrying for the wrong reason.
 
Posted by Wrench Monkey (Member # 9529) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fast(er) Eddie:
Wow, looks like the training was failed upon you. I've been carrying for years, and what you did, was the exact antithesis of what you should of picked up from your training. If in this event, albeit your direct provocation in this situation, you felt threatened(man with a knife endangering your LIFE per se) After drawing SUL and having the subject drop their weapon, you should of contacted the authorities and reported the situation waiting until authorities arrived. What you did was brandish a firearm under the pretense of a law that allows you to carry a CONCEALED weapon.

Situation could of been easily avoided, please do not become a statistical reason that challenges my right to carry correctly.

No hard feelings here, and not attempting to call you out. (you are in fact a CCW holder LOL)

Be safe out there goddamnit!!!!!!!

He isnt trained lol just dumb
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Wow cool story bro tell it again [dance]
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.

That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.

Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.

I think you missed the point, since he provoked the situation by brake checking the dude, he would have seen jail time more than likely if he shot or killed him. The dude with the knife felt threatened, he is lucky he just had a knife and not a gun because brake checking someone you could kill them if they crashed into you. So that dude felt threatened and jumped out with a knife.
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
That was stupid on both of you, you would have gotten into some deep shit if you shot that guy. I live in Dallas and get cut off everyday, I just let it go.

Everytime I leave the Dallas area I have a pistol in my truck for my safety, not just in case some asshole wants to cut me off. Go down to your local PD and ask them if what you did was justified, and see what they have to say about it.
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.

That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.

Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.

Society is worse off with you in it
[Wink]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
That was stupid on both of you, you would have gotten into some deep shit if you shot that guy. I live in Dallas and get cut off everyday, I just let it go.

Everytime I leave the Dallas area I have a pistol in my truck for my safety, not just in case some asshole wants to cut me off. Go down to your local PD and ask them if what you did was justified, and see what they have to say about it.

[patriot]
 
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
this story is [BS flag] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?

That is what I asked earlier too!! My experience is peeps that carry guns, tend to let they nuts hang a lil more than usual.

[ March 21, 2012, 12:02 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?

That is what I asked earlier too!! My experience is peeps that carry guns, tend to let they nuts hang a lil more than usual.
i gotta tuck my shit into my socks [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?

That is what I asked earlier too!! My experience is peeps that carry guns, tend to let they nuts hang a lil more than usual.
That's not always the case. Like I said before, the areas where I have visited where I know it's a gun friendly state, people are usually more polite to me as well as others. That's on an individual basis though. An asshole will still be an asshole, gun, grenade, rocket launcher, nukes, or not.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?

That is what I asked earlier too!! My experience is peeps that carry guns, tend to let they nuts hang a lil more than usual.
That's not always the case. Like I said before, the areas where I have visited where I know it's a gun friendly state, people are usually more polite to me as well as others. That's on an individual basis though. An asshole will still be an asshole, gun, grenade, rocket launcher, nukes, or not.
Yea I know there are exceptions, this was a generalization based on my experience(s). No disrespect to those that carry themselves correctly.
 
Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
i was surfing the web and found out that guy did a police report and here is a drawing of the suspect
 -

said assault on az freeway [Confused]

[ March 21, 2012, 12:19 PM: Message edited by: DIRTY SALLY ]
 
Posted by coupe5oh (Member # 10411) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?

probably
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
Well at least no one go shot and no one went to jail. I personally am all for responsible people carrying, owning, shooting as many guns as they wish. But you have to admit a lot of guys out there buy a gun and some gear and instantly think they are Special Forces SWAT Airborne Agent Orange XJ900!

[ March 21, 2012, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: fstryde3 ]
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
yea thats exacty why i dont have a gun because it made the situation more serious than it needed to be. wat if dude had a gun too? u guna have a shoot out over bad driving??? fucking stupid as fuck.

riding aroudn with a gun for protection why? u so paranoid doin shit that u shouldnt be or wat???

once u pull that trigger u guuna be in a situation that u regret and wish u werent in. all because u think u need the gun.

u dont seem responsible enough to carry a gun u should have swallowed ur pride and not brake checked him and it woulndt have happened, thats the bottom line.

and on top of that ur in arizona. gimme a break. [BS flag]

[ March 21, 2012, 09:59 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coupe5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
if you didnt have a gun, would you have still brakechecked him?

probably
I'll take that as "No".
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
billy badass carries a gun dont gotta take shit from noone.

u know dam well u wouldnt have brake checked him without ur piece.

u wanted to pull it on somone, not shoot, but i can tell from what ive read from you

[ March 21, 2012, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
 
Posted by SLOWSN95 (Member # 8269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
billy badass carries a gun dont gotta take shit from noone.

u know dam well u wouldnt have brake checked him without ur piece.

u wanted to pull it on somone, not shoot, but i cant tell from what ive read from you

I agree. If you HAD to pull ur gun on him, your thread would have said "Had to pull my pistol on someone" rather than "got to pull my pistol on someone." This thread shouldn't have even been started. No need to gloat about pulling your gun on someone.. keep that to yourself. Its not "cool" to carry a loaded gun at all times. Just because you live in AZ doesn't mean you MUST carry a piece. Peter, I'm your friend.. but this shit seriously pisses me off cuz that's exactly how people get killed. What if the guy had a gun, you both shot at each other, and an innocent bystander got hit like a little kid? Not cool, awsome, sick or something to be bragging about.. rant over.
 
Posted by bentley mobs a stang (Member # 11119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.

That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.

Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.

I think you missed the point, since he provoked the situation by brake checking the dude, he would have seen jail time more than likely if he shot or killed him. The dude with the knife felt threatened, he is lucky he just had a knife and not a gun because brake checking someone you could kill them if they crashed into you. So that dude felt threatened and jumped out with a knife.
Right, but brake checking and cutting people off is an action that happens to everyone at least once a month. Should road rage escalate to the point where u pull in front of them and brake check them? No, bit it happens thousands of times a day. Then there are people who take it to a whole new height. Clearly the guy wasn't scared if he hopped out with a knife, he was pissed and wanted to fuck peter up. At that point its not about road rage, its about dude coming at u with a lethal weapon.

One of the saddest things about California is that everyone has to walk with their tail between their legs just to conserve their constitutional rights (or what's left of it). Someone can hop my fence and try to kidnap my dog (who I happen to consider a family member), can't shoot em. Someone brakes into ur house and swings a chair at u when u confront them, can't shoot em. Catch someone drilling out the lock cylinder to start the mustang u built with your own blood sweat and tears, can't shoot em. California is only making things easier for criminals when they know law abiding citizens can't really defend themselves. My reason for this 2nd paragraph rant is that most of us can't relate to out of state gun confrontation stories like this because we could never do anything like that and would instantly be frowned upon


Hey
 
Posted by bentley mobs a stang (Member # 11119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.

That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.

Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.

Society is worse off with you in it
[Wink]

SOCIETY CAN PEEL IT AND SUCK IT
[patriot]
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.

That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.

Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.

I think you missed the point, since he provoked the situation by brake checking the dude, he would have seen jail time more than likely if he shot or killed him. The dude with the knife felt threatened, he is lucky he just had a knife and not a gun because brake checking someone you could kill them if they crashed into you. So that dude felt threatened and jumped out with a knife.
Right, but brake checking and cutting people off is an action that happens to everyone at least once a month. Should road rage escalate to the point where u pull in front of them and brake check them? No, bit it happens thousands of times a day. Then there are people who take it to a whole new height. Clearly the guy wasn't scared if he hopped out with a knife, he was pissed and wanted to fuck peter up. At that point its not about road rage, its about dude coming at u with a lethal weapon.

One of the saddest things about California is that everyone has to walk with their tail between their legs just to conserve their constitutional rights (or what's left of it). Someone can hop my fence and try to kidnap my dog (who I happen to consider a family member), can't shoot em. Someone brakes into ur house and swings a chair at u when u confront them, can't shoot em. Catch someone drilling out the lock cylinder to start the mustang u built with your own blood sweat and tears, can't shoot em. California is only making things easier for criminals when they know law abiding citizens can't really defend themselves. My reason for this 2nd paragraph rant is that most of us can't relate to out of state gun confrontation stories like this because we could never do anything like that and would instantly be frowned upon


Hey

He purposefully brakechecked the guy in retaliation and then pulled over, with malicious intent, like i said previously why didn't he just drive away when the idiot jumped out, no need to one up him with a pistol. Yea getting your mustang broken into sucks, but is someones life really worth a 5k mustang? if you caught them and you were armed you could hold them at bay till the cops got there, and if he were armed, then you could legally defend yourself, ya our laws kind of blow when it comes to protecting your home, but this whole gung-ho wild west attitude will lead to nothing but the grave or behind bars. and as for the out of state gun incidents, this one in peticular, if the event transpired exactly as he said, he is way in the wrong, IMO he's lucky the guy wasn't armed and some bystander didn't get caught in the aftermath, how would that have been justified? we aren't jumping down his throat because we hate guns, he showed little to no respect to how somone who carries a firearm should act when carrying. I understand your frustration but these examples don't ad up. and as for someone stealing your dog? where do you live that's so hood that people jack dogs? get out of there lol.
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_northeast_valley/scottsdale/friends-say-scottsdale-father-wrongly-killed-in-road-rage-incident , even in an open carry state you can still be just as easily prosecuted...
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Road-rage-incident-ends-in-gunfire-near-Gilbert-mall-1-wounded-119551664.html or you could have just as easily been on the recieving end, at the end of that day which one of those guys would have been you? and the guy who got away with self defense might not get away, these cases go for review by the DA who may file charges.

[ March 21, 2012, 11:04 PM: Message edited by: svfreerider87 ]
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by triple b:
so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked

yes but he pulled over knowing damn well some confrontation would ensue, aka with MALICIOUS INTENT, didn't say his truck died or there was bumper to bumper traffic preventing him from pulling away.
 
Posted by bentley mobs a stang (Member # 11119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by bentley mobs a stang:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
I'm pretty sure had he killed the guy the court might have found some foul play in that he provoked the confrontation and used his pistol to "Settle" the incident, just be careful, and next time you pull it out make sure you are actually prepared to do it, who's to say this guy doesn't try and catch you slippin.

That's why I say shoot first ask questions later. There are probably hundreds of thousandths of road rage acts that happen everyday. But if someone responds all guong Ho and tries to pull a weapon on me over it, its over for him. I won't be a victim of road rage, but he might. and just incase he plays the innocent part, don't let him. No one who tries to take ur life can testify against u upon retaliation with a hollow popping out the back of their throat.. theey don't have a pulse. If u are going about ur life trying to live an honest life and somebody tries to ruin it; don't give them the time of day to retaliate.

Don't like my answer? Rewrite the 2nd Annendment.

I think you missed the point, since he provoked the situation by brake checking the dude, he would have seen jail time more than likely if he shot or killed him. The dude with the knife felt threatened, he is lucky he just had a knife and not a gun because brake checking someone you could kill them if they crashed into you. So that dude felt threatened and jumped out with a knife.
Right, but brake checking and cutting people off is an action that happens to everyone at least once a month. Should road rage escalate to the point where u pull in front of them and brake check them? No, bit it happens thousands of times a day. Then there are people who take it to a whole new height. Clearly the guy wasn't scared if he hopped out with a knife, he was pissed and wanted to fuck peter up. At that point its not about road rage, its about dude coming at u with a lethal weapon.

One of the saddest things about California is that everyone has to walk with their tail between their legs just to conserve their constitutional rights (or what's left of it). Someone can hop my fence and try to kidnap my dog (who I happen to consider a family member), can't shoot em. Someone brakes into ur house and swings a chair at u when u confront them, can't shoot em. Catch someone drilling out the lock cylinder to start the mustang u built with your own blood sweat and tears, can't shoot em. California is only making things easier for criminals when they know law abiding citizens can't really defend themselves. My reason for this 2nd paragraph rant is that most of us can't relate to out of state gun confrontation stories like this because we could never do anything like that and would instantly be frowned upon


Hey

He purposefully brakechecked the guy in retaliation and then pulled over, with malicious intent, like i said previously why didn't he just drive away when the idiot jumped out, no need to one up him with a pistol. Yea getting your mustang broken into sucks, but is someones life really worth a 5k mustang? if you caught them and you were armed you could hold them at bay till the cops got there, and if he were armed, then you could legally defend yourself, ya our laws kind of blow when it comes to protecting your home, but this whole gung-ho wild west attitude will lead to nothing but the grave or behind bars. and as for the out of state gun incidents, this one in peticular, if the event transpired exactly as he said, he is way in the wrong, IMO he's lucky the guy wasn't armed and some bystander didn't get caught in the aftermath, how would that have been justified? we aren't jumping down his throat because we hate guns, he showed little to no respect to how somone who carries a firearm should act when carrying. I understand your frustration but these examples don't ad up. and as for someone stealing your dog? where do you live that's so hood that people jack dogs? get out of there lol.
U make good points. And as for the dog thing, my dog personally has never been stolen lol, or I'd be in jail from the aftermath of getting him back. 3 people I know have had their dogs stolen. One was stolen in east Oakland and used as the fight initiator for training dogs to fight and was found dead mauled, it makes me furious just typing this. The second was in pleasanton of all places and the 3rd was in san bruno, also surprising. The other 2 dogs were never found.

But anyways, enough about pet theft. Everybody be responsible with firearms and other weapons, and stand up to preserve our right to bear arms. We need more support from young people.
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by triple b:
so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked

oh please give me a break

common fucking sence would tell you its never a good idea to break check somone. theres consequence for your actions and OBVIOUSLY he wasnt trippin cus he was legally packing. anD thats WHY he DID IT

dont twist shit
 
Posted by coupe5oh (Member # 10411) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
quote:
Originally posted by triple b:
so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked

yes but he pulled over knowing damn well some confrontation would ensue, aka with MALICIOUS INTENT, didn't say his truck died or there was bumper to bumper traffic preventing him from pulling away.
never did i say i pulled over..i said he pulled up to me at the stop light
 
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coupe5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
quote:
Originally posted by triple b:
so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked

yes but he pulled over knowing damn well some confrontation would ensue, aka with MALICIOUS INTENT, didn't say his truck died or there was bumper to bumper traffic preventing him from pulling away.
never did i say i pulled over..i said he pulled up to me at the stop light
wow so you were going to discharge your firearm from a moving vehicle? It is unlawful to carry a firearm concealed within the immediate control of any person in or on a means of transportation. This does not apply to firearms carried in a case, holster or in a means of transportation or a storage compartment, trunk, pack, luggage, or glove compartment of a means of transportation. # No person shall discharge a firearm from a motor vehicle, including an automobile, aircraft, train, boat or floating object towed by powerboat or sailboat., so you would have been guilty of that crime for sure. and again why didn't you drive away if you never stopped? you wanted the situation to escalate so you could show your phoney cajones.
 
Posted by SAMACH1 (Member # 7042) on :
 
Was he gonna stab your car? It's this type of shit that makes it so hard for ordinary people to be armed, laws in cali are in place cus of shit like this, read those articles in AZ, shits crazy. [Eek!]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:
Usually you just let the dumb shit go its never worth battling with people for position In a car no matter how mad you got over what they did. When people cut me off fuck em they're too stupid anyhow. And I also live by the old old school rule I never pull my weapon unless I'm gonna use it

+1

Bigger things in life to worry about, def not a clown who cuts people off.
 
Posted by bentley mobs a stang (Member # 11119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
quote:
Originally posted by coupe5oh:
quote:
Originally posted by svfreerider87:
quote:
Originally posted by triple b:
so because he had a gun he should not have brake checked the guy?!? Then i guess does it matter if he didnt have a gun its ok? If so then everyone here has never done that before? no one here can say that they have never brake checked or speeded by and cut off somebody. he never got out his car the knife dude did and got checked

yes but he pulled over knowing damn well some confrontation would ensue, aka with MALICIOUS INTENT, didn't say his truck died or there was bumper to bumper traffic preventing him from pulling away.
never did i say i pulled over..i said he pulled up to me at the stop light
wow so you were going to discharge your firearm from a moving vehicle? It is unlawful to carry a firearm concealed within the immediate control of any person in or on a means of transportation. This does not apply to firearms carried in a case, holster or in a means of transportation or a storage compartment, trunk, pack, luggage, or glove compartment of a means of transportation. # No person shall discharge a firearm from a motor vehicle, including an automobile, aircraft, train, boat or floating object towed by powerboat or sailboat., so you would have been guilty of that crime for sure. and again why didn't you drive away if you never stopped? you wanted the situation to escalate so you could show your phoney cajones.
just did a Google search on az gun laws and while u cannot conceal carry while in a vehicle u can a. Have it in the open or b. Have it in a closed container not readily available. Basically this means u can keep ur gun on top of ur dash or in ur glove compartment
 
Posted by kingdavid (Member # 11179) on :
 
I lived in Arizona for 7 years and it is wonderful that the state of Arizona allows its citizens to fully particape in carrying a firearm in their vehicle and on them. By Arizona allowing this they are placing a certain amount of responsibility amongst you and are relying on you to use discretion on when to use a firearm for personal safety and not inviting a fire fight like it's the OK corral, this is a privilege and should be treated as a privilege to properly defend yourself when placed in danger to protect yourself or your family. When used irresponsible forces the politicians to remove this right in order to protect the mass population just like California, Like I was told to me when I carried a Gun in Arizona don’t spoil it for the rest of us by trying to be a cowboy. Just my 2 Cent’s.
 




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