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Originally posted by 2TONE:
All I gotta say is f*ck them all...I'm not paying extra outta my check so some lazyass punk who wants to sit on his ass all day or sell rock on the corner gets my damn kaiser that I work hard for ,every broke faggot that milks the system and every whore who wants to have 10 kids now has my benifits..f*ck that...but I guess I have no choice do I ...f*ck voting...I'm turning republican and this piece of shit I voted for is running the government to the ground...damn it we won't even be able to fish soon..sorry for venting..but these people who don't work ,now will never have motivation to get a job,usually they get a job to get benefits,everyone is going to want to work under the table now..dam I'm pissed

On edit- I hope they void his presidency and all his bs bills,with his fakeass birth certificate

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Its not just the lazy people that arent capable of receiving healthcare. You are directing this whole thing at the citizens that basically dont give a f**k about their lives. Well what about me and my families lives? Both of my parents are hard working middle class citizens that both work 40+ hour weeks. My dad's in sales and he's been warned that he may lose his job if production doesn't go up. Well its hard for more production when the economy is down. Luckly for us, my dad has benifits through his company. If he were to lose his job, what would we do? My dad has dangerously high blood pressure where it was at one point 200/120. If we lost our insurance, its very possible for my dad to get a heart attack. He is taking medicine for his blood pressure and he has to take it for the rest of his life. You needa think outside the box and stop blaming the low class citizens for the new plan and realize that this will more than likely benifit the people that deserve it the most.

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Just one question tho..............am I supposed to be responsible for your family?
Is the 16 year old kid on his first job supposed to be responsible for your family, tones of us are hard workers and you think we don't have problems?
I'm starting to wonder if we would be Better off with individual state governments , because united were crashing!
Tell your dad I'm gonna contribute to your health fund, but he's gonna have to cough up some fedy for my public utilities bill........its only fair right?

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I was not saying that nobody else has any problems. I was simply stating that this plan may be worth it. 2tone was implying that he didn't want to pay for lazy people that simply dont do anything with their lives. I was stating that there are decent hard working Americans that deserve more than what they have even if it does cost a few more dollars. I'm almost 20 years old, I go to school full time, work part time and I only make $600 a month after I pay my rent to my mom. Im willing to give up some of my paycheck for that simply because I've seen my family go through a huge struggle due to medical bills when my dad had a 50/50 chance of living or dying. Its a long story that I'm not going to get into, but my mom was left with all of the med bills, mortgage, house payment, utilities, etc. It really messed us up and my parents almost lost our house that they worked so hard to get. If there were nationwide health care, we wouldn't have been so deep down in the hole. Dont just think about the low lifes you'd be helping, also think about the hard working people you'd be helping as well.

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Don't worry bud, I understand the point you were making. Your family and situation is a perfect example of how close many Americans are from being without access to affordable, quality healthcare and how that access not only gives you peace of mind, but allows your dad to more than likely live...

It's funny how many Republicans endorsed many of the measures in the bill such as no life time caps, no preexisting conditions, coverage of dependent children until age 26, but when it came down to it they didn't want Obama to be the one that succeed with it... If you stop and look, there really is a lot of good in this bill and it will provide medical to 31 million more Americans and illegals.

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
wow this coming from a cop, you know better than any of us pieces of shit non cop punks that pay for your services wont ever see your face if my house got robbed today, but god forbid i run a stop sign!

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Its all about making money for the "broke" cities now, catching a criminal that robbed your house will only cost the city more money so they just sit around and come up with new ways to take money from us. Its ironic, we pay taxes to pay salaries to people that all work to figure out ways to take more money from us because other people we pay taxes to fucked up and put the country in the fucked position its in.

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It's time for the country to do what Obama's own father did.
Abandon him.

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Originally posted by JOEFOX87:
1) grab popcon Check
2) in before the lock check
3) in before they move it to street racing check...

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
Republican and former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney successfully got "Romney Care" a single payer health care system (socialized medicine) passed and going in Massachusetts and from my understanding Chowderheads love their health care and it didn't bankrupt the system...

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I thought it was opposite.. they're bankrupt and they don't like their system

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Originally posted by JOEFOX87:
1) grab popcon Check
2) in before the lock check
3) in before they move it to street racing check...

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lmao....I will add "wooden shoes"

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LOL @ this

big worm said it best ," fuckin with my money is like fucking with my emotions smokeeee ."

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I have no intenions of keeping anyones parts or taking anyones money.

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
I know the bill passed.... so what does that mean to us as the american people? facts.... what's going to change?

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
I know the bill passed.... so what does that mean to us as the american people? facts.... what's going to change?

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Give or take a year from now... Your take home pay and anything else they need to tax to pay for it.

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I have no intenions of keeping anyones parts or taking anyones money.

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Republican and former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney successfully got "Romney Care" a single payer health care system (socialized medicine) passed and going in Massachusetts and from my understanding Chowderheads love their health care and it didn't bankrupt the system...

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
Considering we already pay for it, I don't see the difference. In fact, this will lower the deficit in the long run.

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So your saying we already pay for everyone to have health care? No, we pay for SOME people to have health care, not everyone. You really thing giving up a coffee or your monthly subscription to HBO is going to cover these other millions of people?

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
I was just trying to figure out what your stand is or if you were suggesting that government should be privatized... When you pay taxes you are paying for government services like police and fire. From your post, I got the impression that my problems are my problems and that if I need police or fire I shouldn't call 911 because someone else is paying the bill...

Republican and former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney successfully got "Romney Care" a single payer health care system (socialized medicine) passed and going in Massachusetts and from my understanding Chowderheads love their health care and it didn't bankrupt the system...

In 2006 and 2008, the single payer system was passed by the legislature, but both times Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed that measure.

for those that didn't catch the chowderhead reference, I am a proud Yankees fan

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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
Let's be honest, that youtube clip you posted is worse than a Michale Moore film.

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
Here's where I think the plan fails: If I have to buy insurance to drive a car, that's fine. I don't have to drive. I can walk, ride a bike, take the bus, whatever.
If I have to pay an airport tax to help defray the costs of the TSA, that's fine, too. I don't have to get on an airplane. I can walk, ride a bike, take the bus, whatever.
This bill says that I have to purchase health insurance. I don't have to drive or fly, but I do have to live, so that that seems to be a government seizure forbidden by the Fourth Amendment.

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Here's where I think the plan fails: If I have to buy insurance to drive a car, that's fine. I don't have to drive. I can walk, ride a bike, take the bus, whatever.
If I have to pay an airport tax to help defray the costs of the TSA, that's fine, too. I don't have to get on an airplane. I can walk, ride a bike, take the bus, whatever.
This bill says that I have to purchase health insurance. I don't have to drive or fly, but I do have to live, so that that seems to be a government seizure forbidden by the Fourth Amendment.

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I never like your political views. But this is a pretty vivid analogy and I like it.

Now with that said.....im out.

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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
And very little makes enough on this board to be affected from this bill

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health care will always be fucked cuz of all of the health problems that fat people in this country

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wasn't there an incentive to be in shape or not fat in the og bill? i find that hilarious. want to know my incentive for being in shape and not fat anymore? its not being fat and disgusting

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health care will always be fucked cuz of all of the health problems that fat people in this country

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wasn't there an incentive to be in shape or not fat in the og bill? i find that hilarious. want to know my incentive for being in shape and not fat anymore? its not being fat and disgusting

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
Here's where I think the plan fails: If I have to buy insurance to drive a car, that's fine. I don't have to drive. I can walk, ride a bike, take the bus, whatever.
If I have to pay an airport tax to help defray the costs of the TSA, that's fine, too. I don't have to get on an airplane. I can walk, ride a bike, take the bus, whatever.
This bill says that I have to purchase health insurance. I don't have to drive or fly, but I do have to live, so that that seems to be a government seizure forbidden by the Fourth Amendment.

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