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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
the video i watched all i saw was resistence, not sure what you saw.

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
It's very difficult for any of us to determine whether the drunk guy was obeying the cop. So your incorrectassumption he was obeying the cop is WRONG! Next people are plowed into the pavement all the time, if the pavement was glass you would hear about this all the time.

If you threaten someone and are showing that you are a violent threat then you should get handled. PERIOD!

Also your are not reading what I am typing. If you are threatening someone YOU-DONT-GET-THE-OPPORTUNITY-TO-OBEY-A-COP! Your not entitled that if you are being violent. Simple as a-b-c

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and this is the very reason the cop crimes get more and more violent, untill someones grandmother is getting tazed on the side of the road!!!!!
when is it going to be to violent, when cops just start killing people and no one can step in anymore because people just kept condoning the cop violence!!!!
come on man be realistic!!!!

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Just don't be violent and act a fool and it's nothing to worry about. Why do you keep talking about grandparents? lol I don't think anyone's grandparents are going to be violent and hella ignorant like this guy was acting.

Also each situation is unique. We can only assess this situation. I think the guy got what was coming for him. The cop didn't want to break the window and I think that was an accident.

[ November 24, 2009, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
the video i watched all i saw was resistence, not sure what you saw.

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theres only one vid homes. maybe you need to watch it again, i did!

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Originally posted by 70mach351:
I didn't see him punching, kicking, tazing, or shooting him. Looks like he put him in a wrist lock and gave him commands. If he would have complied he wouldn't have broke the window. every one wants to be a victim these days.

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i love the caf cops, they always have the best perspective on these situations, they always see or dont see key things!!!lol
who needs rights when the cops are always right!!!!

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He was exiting the train cause the officer told him to get off and the train wasn't moving until he did. Have you read any of the news? Everyone THERE says the cop did the right thing.

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so you admit that the man was exiting the train on his own free will because someone told him to !!!!!!
sounds to me that the violence from the officer was not needed then?
now were getting some where!
THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED UNNECESSARY FORCE!

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No you just arent getting it.... He was not getting off on his "own free will"... He was ORDERED by a LAW ENFORMENT OFFICER to get off the train. Then didnt feel like really doing what he was told to do. He got what he deserved. Youre arguing with like 15 people who all think youre wrong, and god knows your looking like a tool continually trying to validate your opinions to the 100s of people reading this.

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the tool here is someone that would just up and change his mind just because 15 people thought his views were wrong!
your definition of tool is way off!
the tool is you ie: a person that cares what others think of him, take your own advice!!!!!
walking towards the door would be considerd "own free will" also no one said he didnt have to be told i simply stated that the force was not nessicery!
heres a thought a cop walks up and asks for your liscense you pissed of yell at your gf (cuz your mad and she is nagging) all the while your reaching in to your pocket for your wallet at wich time the officer grabs you by the coller and proceds to drag you from your car...........now would that be nessicery, dont tell me its not the same circumstance because thats not the answer to the question!!!!

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
Jesus *bubba sparxx,* trying to have a conversation with you is worse than pulling teeth. Get your head out of your ass already.

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
It's very difficult for any of us to determine whether the drunk guy was obeying the cop. So your incorrectassumption he was obeying the cop is WRONG! Next people are plowed into the pavement all the time, if the pavement was glass you would hear about this all the time.

If you threaten someone and are showing that you are a violent threat then you should get handled. PERIOD!

Also your are not reading what I am typing. If you are threatening someone YOU-DONT-GET-THE-OPPORTUNITY-TO-OBEY-A-COP! Your not entitled that if you are being violent. Simple as a-b-c

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and this is the very reason the cop crimes get more and more violent, untill someones grandmother is getting tazed on the side of the road!!!!!
when is it going to be to violent, when cops just start killing people and no one can step in anymore because people just kept condoning the cop violence!!!!
come on man be realistic!!!!

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
It's very difficult for any of us to determine whether the drunk guy was obeying the cop. So your incorrectassumption he was obeying the cop is WRONG! Next people are plowed into the pavement all the time, if the pavement was glass you would hear about this all the time.

If you threaten someone and are showing that you are a violent threat then you should get handled. PERIOD!

Also your are not reading what I am typing. If you are threatening someone YOU-DONT-GET-THE-OPPORTUNITY-TO-OBEY-A-COP! Your not entitled that if you are being violent. Simple as a-b-c

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and this is the very reason the cop crimes get more and more violent, untill someones grandmother is getting tazed on the side of the road!!!!!
when is it going to be to violent, when cops just start killing people and no one can step in anymore because people just kept condoning the cop violence!!!!
come on man be realistic!!!!

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The officer used that force which is necessary to overcome the resistance of the offender to effect a lawful arrest. I don't see why the police should be defensive about anything here. Unless you've wrestled with anyone trying to fight you in the line of duty, you will never know. Your ignorance is apalling, but somewhat typical of a common shitbird.

The freedom of speech is not absolute; there are restrictions. You cannot yell "fire" in a crowded theater, nor can you make threats likely to provoke a public disturbance (415 PC).

Gotta love how people throw out that "to protect and serve" idea when there are allegations of brutality. In the opinion of many, the officer was protecting and serving the passengers. The first and foremost responsibility of an officer is to enforce the law and vigorously prosecute those responsible for crime.

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see this guy sees my point, cops need to beat the shit out of every one no questions asked!!!!!
wtf do they care were not one of them, basicaly if your not one of them your just a common shitbird!
i love how these punk ass cops run there mouth to the people that pay them!
in a world were we could pick and choose.......i think id take my chances without em! they dont do shit any way!!!
how many times have any of you rolled by a parking lot and theres like two or three cars two cops in each one just chillin????
is that what you mean by protect and serve???
"oh we just hang out all day shoot the shit and when we get board with that we just f$%k with people you know write a bunch of bs tikets.
we gotta protect you people from all those dangerous windshield cracks, what kinda protector would i be if i let someone drive around without a front licence plat?"
serve and protect what????? did that cop protect the air from that guy walking out in to it?????
if you tell someone to do something and they do it, explain why you would need to use force to help them do what there doing?????

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Originally posted by 9cobra7:
This is now a totally pathetic pointless conversation. This is about a stupid as that jerkoff on the train. Ooohh the poor helpless criminal, let's just help the poor guy off the train and roll out the red carpet for him. Boo hoo hoo (tears). Just send your sympathy cards to him Fr5.0 and hope he gets better, then go visit him in the Psych ward and say hi from all of us at Ca. Fords. Go finish your fuckin' degree from Lincoln Law school and go help the poor defenseless good natured fellow get back on his feet. Make sure you sue BART because there the real problem here!

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why do people hate cops, because thay got a stick up there a$$!!!
how about you do your job..........the right way!!!!
i love when people start getting mad that means they know there wrong!
ill tell him you said hi.........when i see him in cabo, cuz he won a c note for excessive force
if it makes you mad that that cop is going to get in trouble for handling the situation improperly, you just might be a common shitbird!

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZJvihI8nfo

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