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Cop will lose his job, guy will get paid.

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I do not believe this officer will lose his job. I think he used the proper and necessary force to overcome resistance and a review of this indecent from internal affairs will clear him of any wrong doing... He identified himself, took control of the scene and escorted a clearly unstable individual away from an agitated crowd that could have easily interfered or provoked a more serious situation while attempting to take the man into custody.

The window breaking was clearly not intentional and just a freak accident. Of course it looks bad, but that is not the fault of the officer. As someone else said you can see the suspect's hand hit the glass before any other body part of the suspect. To me that is a clear indication the suspect is still resisting and bracing himself against the officer. Also as mentioned, both the officer and suspect were injured. The suspect's injuries included a few cuts. The officer required stitches and had a concussion. I highly doubt this officer would put himself in situation where he may be severely injured or even killed. Remember the goal of any law enforcement officer is to make it home safely to their families at EOW.

Furthermore, People are to quick to judge and are hypersensitive... This was a no win situation for the officer, who was just doing his job. It would not have mattered what force he used. His decision making would still be second guess and maybe more so if he used other means of force such as OC, taser or baton. Hindsight is always 20/20 and there is always something that could have been done different or maybe even better.

The man and his family will get some type of settlement only because it is cheaper for BART and the taxpaying citizens to settle out of court than litigate in a courtroom.

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You must didnt watch the same vid I watched lol. The officer did put some "umph" on the relocatin to the wall. The dude was not struggling or fighting and appeared to be subdued for the most part IMO. But like I said, I have no sympathy for the offender and feel sorry for the cop. But even I could get a cool settlement for him with that video.

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Well here is the video I watched...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbk5EsuTQxg

You can see the suspect clearly dragging his feet and resisting the officer's escort and then continue to resist all the way to the ground.

You can see how agitated and unstable the man is on the train and the confrontation that is just starting to occur with another BART rider... The officer has to go in there and take control.

What do you want the officer to do?

Officer: "Sir, Sir come step off the train and tell me what is going on" (because I have no command presence and I am afraid of what people might think tomorrow.)

Suspect: "Fuck you, I am king of this...blah blah"
(Giving the suspect time to take a fighting stance and making a bad situation worse. It would have been all bad if it would have gone hands on in that small train car with a crowd of people)

Like I said, hind sight it 20/20, but that is not how reasonable force works in our country... The officer used necessary and reasonable force at that moment to overcome the resistance of again a clearly agitated and unstable man.

I want to know why that was glass and not plexiglas or some other material... That is really what makes this whole incident look bad.

Sometimes you have to check someone against a wall to get their attention and overcome their resistance and again that would not be "excessive"!

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Originally posted by snakebit95:
Lol! I was just watching channel 2 news. They said this guy was arrested earlier in the day for & I quote "kicking a 84 year old man in the pants while riding the bus in Daly City". What a skitzo. People like that can snap at a moments notice. That officer was doing is job. Was he a little ruff, maybe. Oh well, that guy could have brought harm to somebody worse than that. Split second decisions are ruff.

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I just saw the oooooh soooo classsy john burass will be his lawyer

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I have no intenions of keeping anyones parts or taking anyones money.

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the first PIG to speak up i guess

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I guess your the second retard to speak up on this post.

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and i guess your just another punk with something to compensate for! i love cops like you, bad ass on the street but take it in the rear in court!!!!
making punks like you look stupid in court is better than sex!
if youre anything like how you talk(doubtfull) you wont be blue for long

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
wait wait wait...........so if i or any other person yells in public america land of the free, cops are completely in the right to body slam or check me up against a wall!!!!!??????

im completely at awwww reading this b.s.!!!!
you guys cant see this man did nothing wrong(at this moment)!
this is the exact reason cops get away with shit like this all the time!
what if this was one of you, what if!!!

i hate the fact that a cop is basicaly a street judge!
at any time if some punk cop is feeling frisky he can take any situation to any level, people like yall will always be there to back them up!
unless it was you! then what?

and no alex i didnt just get a ticket!

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the first PIG to speak up i guess

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I guess your the second retard to speak up on this post.

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and i guess your just another punk with something to compensate for! i love cops like you, bad ass on the street but take it in the rear in court!!!!
making punks like you look stupid in court is better than sex!
if youre anything like how you talk(doubtfull) you wont be blue for long

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LOL, that was good, bad ass in the street take it in the rear in court ha ha ha

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It's NOT illegal. It's just frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane.

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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+1 He had it comming if you ask me. Cops can be dicks, but so are some of the fools on here defending this guys actions. What he did was wrong.. We do have free speach. But you don't cause a disturbance on a Bart train, act a fool and expect to get away with it.

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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oh yea i can tell they were all in soooooo much trouble!!!! dont yell in public, you might get thrown through a window!!!!

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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oh yea i can tell they were all in soooooo much trouble!!!! dont yell in public, you might get thrown through a window!!!!

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Do me a favor, go get drunk and ride BART. Kick an old man. Make threats to random people who are just trying to get home after a long day. Have an open container of alcohol and try slamming your body against the closed doors of a BART train. Resist arrest. Then return to cafords and cry about your innocence. Good luck.

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and i guess your just another punk with something to compensate for! i love cops like you, bad ass on the street but take it in the rear in court!!!!
making punks like you look stupid in court is better than sex!
if youre anything like how you talk(doubtfull) you wont be blue for long

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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oh yea i can tell they were all in soooooo much trouble!!!! dont yell in public, you might get thrown through a window!!!!

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Do me a favor, go get drunk and ride BART. Kick an old man. Make threats to random people who are just trying to get home after a long day. Have an open container of alcohol and try slamming your body against the closed doors of a BART train. Resist arrest. Then return to cafords and cry about your innocence. Good luck.

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ooooorrrrrrr get a beer, dont drink it, yell obscenities on a bart train directed towards passengers (people directly) and exit the train when im told only to be snatched by some punk (with something to prove because he got his little pecker touched when he was a child)and thrown through a window and make millions!!!!
what are you trying to prove?........lame!
all of your points dont add up, the man did nothing wrong(at the time)!

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[QUOTE] and i guess your just another punk with something to compensate for! i love cops like you, bad ass on the street but take it in the rear in court!!!!
making punks like you look stupid in court is better than sex!
if youre anything like how you talk(doubtfull) you wont be blue for long

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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+1 He had it comming if you ask me. Cops can be dicks, but so are some of the fools on here defending this guys actions. What he did was wrong.. We do have free speach. But you don't cause a disturbance on a Bart train, act a fool and expect to get away with it.

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note to self i cant yell in public it might be considerd a disterbance and my freedom of speach is revoked if someone near by dosent like how or what i said!!!!!!! whos the tools now look around...........free my ass!!!!!!!!!!

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and i guess your just another punk with something to compensate for! i love cops like you, bad ass on the street but take it in the rear in court!!!!
making punks like you look stupid in court is better than sex!
if youre anything like how you talk(doubtfull) you wont be blue for long

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O.k. tough guy. Since it's quite obvious that you've been to court a few times, (making punks like you look stupid in court is better than sex!) I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Each time you were in court, taking that day off work, missing more important things in your life, the cop that there was there......wait for it...... was making time and a half. And, if you were able to quickly resolve your case and totally embarass said cop, to say nothing of the sexual experience you somehow pull out of the situation, that cop got paid for four hours at time and a half.

Grow up junior. My guess is you or someone you love is going to need a cop someday. And you know what? They are going to come, no matter what. Even if they knew you were a huge festering pile of shit,...they will come. Do you want to know why? Because they are better than you.

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soooooo my 8hr p.t.o. probably makes you look a little dumb right now then, cops arent the only ones with p.t.o. mine just looks a little better!
id rather have my 8 verses your 4 dum dum.

and then on your second comment.........open your eyes turd, the cops are going to come when i call not because of personal rankings but because i pay them!

how does it feel to know that your money is no better than a mobbsters????
you take honest hard working americans money every day, for what a cracked windshield, a front license plate, a burnt up signal light!!!!!!
you and all the rest of the american law enforcment are shit, your all punk ass theivs!
you think its american to take civilians for granted, your job isnt to protect and serve!!!! all you do is take from the less fortunate!!!!
how can you live with your selfs talking to people that pay your salery like there 3 strike criminals?


funny story, my boys mom(4'9") got pulled over the other day, (you couldnt here this woman speak in a crowded restaurant)but this punk thought it was nessicery to yell at the top of his lungs, pull her out of the car, hand cuff her the let her go.
he said she matched the description of someone they were looking for lol!
he lost his job she got 20 racks, i love law enforcment there like the lotto!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
It's part of what you sign up for when you choose to get out of line in a public place and be an idiot.

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when did you sign up to have your rights taken from you, i didnt!
out of line to you might not be to someone else.........see what i mean...........probably not!!!

and about your "real peice of work" comment, i could say the same for your thoughts!


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[QUOTE] and i guess your just another punk with something to compensate for! i love cops like you, bad ass on the street but take it in the rear in court!!!!
making punks like you look stupid in court is better than sex!
if youre anything like how you talk(doubtfull) you wont be blue for long

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O.k. tough guy. Since it's quite obvious that you've been to court a few times, (making punks like you look stupid in court is better than sex!) I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Each time you were in court, taking that day off work, missing more important things in your life, the cop that there was there......wait for it...... was making time and a half. And, if you were able to quickly resolve your case and totally embarass said cop, to say nothing of the sexual experience you somehow pull out of the situation, that cop got paid for four hours at time and a half.

Grow up junior. My guess is you or someone you love is going to need a cop someday. And you know what? They are going to come, no matter what. Even if they knew you were a huge festering pile of shit,...they will come. Do you want to know why? Because they are better than you. [/Q

Lol...owned! Is this Fr5.0 some law school drop out or something? Trying to protect the pathetic and get them money to bankrupt the system even more than it is. That cop handled it just fine and your just upset you couldn't come close to doing his job.

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ya owned!!!! everyone........i am a law school drop out!!!! how long did it take you to muster up that lame ass comment!
bankrupt the system????? look around dummy, were in a recesion prices are going up and no one has money, wait are you saying you condone the people that are supposed to serve and protect preforming more stops and ticketing 3 times the amount they did 2 years ago?????
but if you call them they dont show up due to a budget loss, it seems to me that law enforcement is out in full force i see more cops on the streets now then i have ever seen........but they cant make it to my house when i call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and you look down on people that fight there tickets?????
wish i had the news broadcast to post but i remember a broadcast something like 30% of citations in sac county were false accused...........that was a study by law enforcement.......30%!!!! thats a big number, so keep up the good job!

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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+1 He had it comming if you ask me. Cops can be dicks, but so are some of the fools on here defending this guys actions. What he did was wrong.. We do have free speach. But you don't cause a disturbance on a Bart train, act a fool and expect to get away with it.

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note to self i cant yell in public it might be considerd a disterbance and my freedom of speach is revoked if someone near by dosent like how or what i said!!!!!!! whos the tools now look around...........free my ass!!!!!!!!!!

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Bro I understand your argument about free speech, but somethings are not protected under free speech ie: threats, like this guy was making. You can actually get in trouble if you tell someone you want to kill them or stab them etc. If your screaming " I love obama eat cock you publicans" then yes a cop should not face plant you into a window or the ground. But the moment you start to threaten other people you should be dealt with accordingly. Again threats are not protected under free speech.

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