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WHYT LIE
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It's that time of year again...
This event will be held on Sept 10th (SUNDAY) from 10:00am-5:00pm. Gates will open as close to 8:00am as possible. (Last event the track staff forgot the tech cards in Lodi...)
$10 entry fee for spectators
$45 to race
(Car + driver = $55)
$25 per additional tech card.
We will be limiting this event to the first 125 vehicles.
Classes and rules can be found in the Drag Racing Section.
Norcal LS1 Shootout Forum
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ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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Tire regulations: Any tire allowed unless specified.
Interior/Body regulations: Interior must not show any sheet metal, must be covered by carpet or stock panels. Fiberglass pieces are allowed, as well as lexan windows.
NO ELECTRONICS in any Bracket class!!!
Motor swaps outside of existing vehicle body will bump you to the next class. (ie: LS1 swap into RX7, however LS1 swap into 3d gen or 1st gen are ok. '03+ Cobra motor into Fox body is ok, however into a Pinto you get bumped.)
Must retain stock style suspension and frame except for OUTLAW.
Bracket I 12.49 and quicker
Bracket II 12.50 and slower DOT tire required
Truck Bracket
Stock Motor DOT Tire required Chevy Rules: All bolt ons allowed, stock motor internals. Stock cam and heads required. Ford Rules: All bolt ons allowed, 302 with heads/cam/intake allowed. '03/'04 Cobra: STOCK '03/'04 Cobra with catback exhaust ONLY.
Stock Motor + 1 Power Adder Chevy Rules: 346"/350" with overbore allowed and aftermarket internals (basically, stock CI.) All bolts ons allowed, heads/cam/intake allowed. Ford Rules: 331/347/351 Ford allowed with aftermarket internals. All bolt ons allowed, heads/cam/intake allowed. '03/'04 Cobra: All bolt ons allowed.
Stroker Motor NA Chevy Rules: All bolt ons, heads/cam/intake, aftermarket internals, no CI displacement limit. Ford Rules: All bolt ons, heads/cam/intake, aftermarket internals, no CI displacement limit.
Stroker Motor + 1 Power Adder Chevy Rules: Same as Stroker Motor NA with one power adder. Ford Rules: Same as Stroker Motor NA with one power adder. "Power Adder" description: Nitrous (multiple stages) = 1 power adder. Turbo (single or twin) = 1 power adder. Supercharger or blower = 1 power adder.
Outlaw Same as PSCA Outlaw 10.5W rules.
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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We are also in need of some good people to help clasify cars while they are going through tech. John91Coupe did it last time (I belive that was his SN) and he did a good job, and we'd love to have you help again if you would like to.
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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JohnB
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I'm up for helping out again. No problem.
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quote: Originally posted by JohnB: I'm up for helping out again. No problem.
Doh, it was JohnB, not John91Coupe... sorry for the mixup. Just show up at the main gate (old entrance) at 7:30am and we'll let you in and have a pre race meeting.
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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John91coupe
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Oh man! I thought I did something good and forgot all about it. Damn!
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quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: Oh man! I thought I did something good and forgot all about it. Damn!
Are you going to make this event? We sure could use the knowlege and expertise of a second Ford guy...
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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John91coupe
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I will try to make this race. I have some company that weelend but may have to ditch them on Sunday to attend (they are not into drag racing).
-------------------- D-2R ProCharged R302 331 1.410 60 ft. 5.784 @ 122.92 1/8 8.953 @ 155.08 MM&FF Feature June 2003
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quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: I will try to make this race. I have some company that weelend but may have to ditch them on Sunday to attend (they are not into drag racing).
You know you can borrow my dad's trailer and i will be your pitcrew so lets go!
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so does a tt 04 cobra with a stock motor fit in the stock + 1 power adder.
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66 AC COBRA
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was there ever a decision made about aftermerket blocks being allowed in stroker + power adder
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Why is this called the norcal shootout? I asked if I could enter and was told no and that this is just a ford gm thing. If its just a ford gm thing then why not call it something along those lines instead of "norcal" shootout. I even asked if I could run outlaw class since my car doesn't fit in any of the other categories. But still the answer was no. Oh well I'll just race at a different event.
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Cummins looks like the Wendy's girl......without the pig tails. - JT
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quote: Originally posted by twins: so does a tt 04 cobra with a stock motor fit in the stock + 1 power adder.
[QUOTE] "Power Adder" description: Nitrous (multiple stages) = 1 power adder. Turbo (single or twin) = 1 power adder. Supercharger or blower = 1 power adder. [QB]
So, whats the deal with your sig?
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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quote: Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA: was there ever a decision made about aftermerket blocks being allowed in stroker + power adder
Stock or factory supplied blocks only. Aftermarket blocks go to OUTLAW.
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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quote: Originally posted by cummins: Why is this called the norcal shootout? I asked if I could enter and was told no and that this is just a ford gm thing. If its just a ford gm thing then why not call it something along those lines instead of "norcal" shootout. I even asked if I could run outlaw class since my car doesn't fit in any of the other categories. But still the answer was no. Oh well I'll just race at a different event.
It is called the "Norcal Shootout" because we (the club, group, and board) are called Norcal LS1, and this is taking place in NORTHERN CALIFORNIA = NORCAL...
What car are you running in? Who told you that you couldn't run in OUTLAW? Oh, are you the guy with the Supra? The IMPORT?
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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John91coupe
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quote: Originally posted by WHYT LIE: quote: Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA: was there ever a decision made about aftermerket blocks being allowed in stroker + power adder
Stock or factory supplied blocks only. Aftermarket blocks go to OUTLAW.
So you're saying that aftermarket Ford blocks like an A4 puts that car in Outlaw? BTW, an A4 Ford block is just a stronger version of the factory block.
-------------------- D-2R ProCharged R302 331 1.410 60 ft. 5.784 @ 122.92 1/8 8.953 @ 155.08 MM&FF Feature June 2003
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quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: quote: Originally posted by WHYT LIE: quote: Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA: was there ever a decision made about aftermerket blocks being allowed in stroker + power adder
Stock or factory supplied blocks only. Aftermarket blocks go to OUTLAW.
So you're saying that aftermarket Ford blocks like an A4 puts that car in Outlaw? BTW, an A4 Ford block is just a stronger version of the factory block.
Was that A4 block ever available in a production car? It is similar to the BowTie block for Chevy's, right?
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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quote: Originally posted by WHYT LIE: quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: quote: Originally posted by WHYT LIE: quote: Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA: was there ever a decision made about aftermerket blocks being allowed in stroker + power adder
Stock or factory supplied blocks only. Aftermarket blocks go to OUTLAW.
So you're saying that aftermarket Ford blocks like an A4 puts that car in Outlaw? BTW, an A4 Ford block is just a stronger version of the factory block.
Was that A4 block ever available in a production car? It is similar to the BowTie block for Chevy's, right?
No it was not. The A4 and newer R302 blocks are 4 bolt main blocks. More meat where needed for strength but not available in any production cars that I know of.
-------------------- D-2R ProCharged R302 331 1.410 60 ft. 5.784 @ 122.92 1/8 8.953 @ 155.08 MM&FF Feature June 2003
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quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: No it was not. The A4 and newer R302 blocks are 4 bolt main blocks. More meat where needed for strength but not available in any production cars that I know of.
How many cars run these blocks? And what times do they normally run. Maybe make these blocks legal in Stroker and Stroker + PA? Does that sound fair? Just not in Stock Motor or Stock Motor + PA?
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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quote: Originally posted by WHYT LIE: quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: No it was not. The A4 and newer R302 blocks are 4 bolt main blocks. More meat where needed for strength but not available in any production cars that I know of.
How many cars run these blocks? And what times do they normally run. Maybe make these blocks legal in Stroker and Stroker + PA? Does that sound fair? Just not in Stock Motor or Stock Motor + PA?
The factory block will hold maybe 600 FWHP for a while but if you are looking for something that will last and not split in two (which happens frequently on blown applications with some detonation) then smart folks will go for the A4 and R302 blocks. Only problem with moving them to the Stroker and Stroker + PA is that if you look at the block you would never know it was not a factory block. So if a guy chooses to not say he had one it would be difficult to know he did. In reality it dosen't provide any more power then a factory block, just a bit of insurance that it will stay together.
-------------------- D-2R ProCharged R302 331 1.410 60 ft. 5.784 @ 122.92 1/8 8.953 @ 155.08 MM&FF Feature June 2003
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Well fellas I'll have to saw you foos off at some other event. Oh well. I was planning to bring my car to this event and break off foos from this site and foos from norcal ls1. Many of you told me to bring my car to this event but I asked the coordinator and he said that I'm not allowed. So you'll have to wait for another day. Rules are rules and he said no imports. No biggie. At least this way the deadline for killing has been delayed.
-------------------- Your definitely jealous of my strength and brains. - 68_427_Fastback
Cummins looks like the Wendy's girl......without the pig tails. - JT
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if you allow aftemarket blocks such as the a4 stroker+adder will be a low 8 second class, maybe not everyone but there is one guy around these parts that can run the number
now if you want to allow these blocks then thats your choice, I am just trying to get this firgured out before sunday so I know who I will be racing and its not such a crazy cluster f**k for the people teching cars
i guess the choice comes down to 8 sec cars running with 10 second cars in stroker+adder or 7 second cars running with 9 second cars in outlaw (if a 7sec car shows up that is)
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quote: Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA: if you allow aftemarket blocks such as the a4 stroker+adder will be a low 8 second class, maybe not everyone but there is one guy around these parts that can run the number
now if you want to allow these blocks then thats your choice, I am just trying to get this firgured out before sunday so I know who I will be racing and its not such a crazy cluster f**k for the people teching cars
i guess the choice comes down to 8 sec cars running with 10 second cars in stroker+adder or 7 second cars running with 9 second cars in outlaw (if a 7sec car shows up that is)
This sounds like the smart choice. The issue about knowing the CID of these blocks isn't so much of an issue, since a stock LS1 block can be up to 454" now. We have to try and allow people to be honest and have the competiters "police" each other as well.
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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quote: Originally posted by WHYT LIE: quote: Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA: if you allow aftemarket blocks such as the a4 stroker+adder will be a low 8 second class, maybe not everyone but there is one guy around these parts that can run the number
now if you want to allow these blocks then thats your choice, I am just trying to get this firgured out before sunday so I know who I will be racing and its not such a crazy cluster f**k for the people teching cars
i guess the choice comes down to 8 sec cars running with 10 second cars in stroker+adder or 7 second cars running with 9 second cars in outlaw (if a 7sec car shows up that is)
This sounds like the smart choice. The issue about knowing the CID of these blocks isn't so much of an issue, since a stock LS1 block can be up to 454" now. We have to try and allow people to be honest and have the competiters "police" each other as well.
So the choice is what? Do the 8 second cars run against the 10 second cars (which would be aftermarket blocks in Stroker + PA) or will the 7 second cars run against 9 second cars (which would be aftermarket blocks go to Outlaw)?
-------------------- D-2R ProCharged R302 331 1.410 60 ft. 5.784 @ 122.92 1/8 8.953 @ 155.08 MM&FF Feature June 2003
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quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: quote: Originally posted by WHYT LIE: quote: Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA: if you allow aftemarket blocks such as the a4 stroker+adder will be a low 8 second class, maybe not everyone but there is one guy around these parts that can run the number
now if you want to allow these blocks then thats your choice, I am just trying to get this firgured out before sunday so I know who I will be racing and its not such a crazy cluster f**k for the people teching cars
i guess the choice comes down to 8 sec cars running with 10 second cars in stroker+adder or 7 second cars running with 9 second cars in outlaw (if a 7sec car shows up that is)
This sounds like the smart choice. The issue about knowing the CID of these blocks isn't so much of an issue, since a stock LS1 block can be up to 454" now. We have to try and allow people to be honest and have the competiters "police" each other as well.
So the choice is what? Do the 8 second cars run against the 10 second cars (which would be aftermarket blocks in Stroker + PA) or will the 7 second cars run against 9 second cars (which would be aftermarket blocks go to Outlaw)?
Aftermarket blocks will be in Outlaw so that the "fast" cars are racing other "fast" cars.
-------------------- WHYT LIE '96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd 10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC '02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver) 11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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