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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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+1 He had it comming if you ask me. Cops can be dicks, but so are some of the fools on here defending this guys actions. What he did was wrong.. We do have free speach. But you don't cause a disturbance on a Bart train, act a fool and expect to get away with it.

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note to self i cant yell in public it might be considerd a disterbance and my freedom of speach is revoked if someone near by dosent like how or what i said!!!!!!! whos the tools now look around...........free my ass!!!!!!!!!!

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Bro I understand your argument about free speech, but somethings are not protected under free speech ie: threats, like this guy was making. You can actually get in trouble if you tell someone you want to kill them or stab them etc. If your screaming " I love obama eat cock you publicans" then yes a cop should not face plant you into a window or the ground. But the moment you start to threaten other people you should be dealt with accordingly. Again threats are not protected under free speech.

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idk about what you saw but he didnt strike anyone never made a dangerous pose..............maybe he just wanted to race!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082619/

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whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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oh yea i can tell they were all in soooooo much trouble!!!! dont yell in public, you might get thrown through a window!!!!

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Do me a favor, go get drunk and ride BART. Kick an old man. Make threats to random people who are just trying to get home after a long day. Have an open container of alcohol and try slamming your body against the closed doors of a BART train. Resist arrest. Then return to cafords and cry about your innocence. Good luck.

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ooooorrrrrrr get a beer, dont drink it, yell obscenities on a bart train directed towards passengers (people directly) and exit the train when im told only to be snatched by some punk (with something to prove because he got his little pecker touched when he was a child)and thrown through a window and make millions!!!!
what are you trying to prove?........lame!
all of your points dont add up, the man did nothing wrong(at the time)!

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Dude! That is exactly what didn't happen on that video Ive heard people yelling on BART all the time and no one gets arrested he was obvious causing a bigger problem then just yelling if someone complained and they went through the trouble of holding up the train to get him out. I'm not a huge fan of law enforcement BUT some are cool and this guy was just doing his job

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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+1 He had it comming if you ask me. Cops can be dicks, but so are some of the fools on here defending this guys actions. What he did was wrong.. We do have free speach. But you don't cause a disturbance on a Bart train, act a fool and expect to get away with it.

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note to self i cant yell in public it might be considerd a disterbance and my freedom of speach is revoked if someone near by dosent like how or what i said!!!!!!! whos the tools now look around...........free my ass!!!!!!!!!!

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Bro I understand your argument about free speech, but somethings are not protected under free speech ie: threats, like this guy was making. You can actually get in trouble if you tell someone you want to kill them or stab them etc. If your screaming " I love obama eat cock you publicans" then yes a cop should not face plant you into a window or the ground. But the moment you start to threaten other people you should be dealt with accordingly. Again threats are not protected under free speech.

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idk about what you saw but he didnt strike anyone never made a dangerous pose..............maybe he just wanted to race!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082619/

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He was threatening people and challenging them to fight, yelling racial slurs and just being a piece of shit. He got what he deserved, end of story.

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
whoever stands up for the outstanding citizen in the video (the drunk fuck) is a complete tool. that video was great. the officer handled the situation and took control of what otherwise could have been ugly for the innocent people trying to get home from work.

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+1 He had it comming if you ask me. Cops can be dicks, but so are some of the fools on here defending this guys actions. What he did was wrong.. We do have free speach. But you don't cause a disturbance on a Bart train, act a fool and expect to get away with it.

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note to self i cant yell in public it might be considerd a disterbance and my freedom of speach is revoked if someone near by dosent like how or what i said!!!!!!! whos the tools now look around...........free my ass!!!!!!!!!!

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Bro I understand your argument about free speech, but somethings are not protected under free speech ie: threats, like this guy was making. You can actually get in trouble if you tell someone you want to kill them or stab them etc. If your screaming " I love obama eat cock you publicans" then yes a cop should not face plant you into a window or the ground. But the moment you start to threaten other people you should be dealt with accordingly. Again threats are not protected under free speech.

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idk about what you saw but he didnt strike anyone never made a dangerous pose..............maybe he just wanted to race!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082619/

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He was threatening people and challenging them to fight, yelling racial slurs and just being a piece of shit. He got what he deserved, end of story.

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racial slurs? yelling does not call for physically violent restraint! the man was exiting the train look again!

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
He was exiting the train cause the officer told him to get off and the train wasn't moving until he did. Have you read any of the news? Everyone THERE says the cop did the right thing.

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Originally posted by snakebit95:
Why are people siding with this lunatic? Watch the video again. Look at the little old lady that is freakin horrified. this incident was not only the 20 second video that we see on the news. They received 12 911 call asking for help. you get that many calls the police are not going ask questions. , that officer was responding to those calls and did a great job. if there was safety glass installed nobody would even be talking about it. The officer sustained more injury than the suspect. I hope he is doing well. If that was my grandmother or kids on that train, I would have stepped up put him to the ground until the cops came. Listen to all of the applause once the officer grabs that douche bag.

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
He was exiting the train cause the officer told him to get off and the train wasn't moving until he did. Have you read any of the news? Everyone THERE says the cop did the right thing.

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so you admit that the man was exiting the train on his own free will because someone told him to !!!!!!
sounds to me that the violence from the officer was not needed then?
now were getting some where!
THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED UNNECESSARY FORCE!

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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
He was exiting the train cause the officer told him to get off and the train wasn't moving until he did. Have you read any of the news? Everyone THERE says the cop did the right thing.

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so you admit that the man was exiting the train on his own free will because someone told him to !!!!!!
sounds to me that the violence from the officer was not needed then?
now were getting some where!
THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED UNNECESSARY FORCE!

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No you just arent getting it.... He was not getting off on his "own free will"... He was ORDERED by a LAW ENFORMENT OFFICER to get off the train. Then didnt feel like really doing what he was told to do. He got what he deserved. Youre arguing with like 15 people who all think youre wrong, and god knows your looking like a tool continually trying to validate your opinions to the 100s of people reading this.

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Bottom line is: free speech doesn't protect threatening others.

Also you shouldn't be given the option to move by your own free will if you threaten others. What if the cop says "please step out sir" and the guy starts running or the guy knows he is now caught and wants to swing at at least one person or the cop. When someone is proving to be a threat then they are dealt with properly.

The way you are making it out is as if the guy was just riding bart and was pulled off for no reason. That is not the case. This guy was threaten others. The big problem is the THREATS. I bet if he wasn't threatening anyone and was just drinking a beer on bart, the cop would have said, put the beer down step out side, put your arms behind your back etc.

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soooooo, what if the cop ran up and some one was being a cpt. save a hoe and was yelling at the real perp, but the cop not knowing grabs him and throws him in to a window?????
see how the situation can turn around?
this situation didnt have to escalate, the man was getting off the train. when are you going to get that through your head! we can "what if" all day but the real deal is on tape so theres no "what ifs" there!
the man was not right for what he did and jail is the punishment for his crime!
when did you vote that cops have the right to kick the shit out of people when they see fit......

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oh and bottled95GT??
i do get it, it seems to me others are not getting it you being one of them! im not condoning i merely commented on the cops insane out burst, the situation was defused...the man was exiting the train!!!!!
if your so blind that you dont see this along with 15 other people i hate to see what the future holds for our freedom!!!

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Its not the yelling. That's where you are mixing things up. It's the threats being made.

Also by you adding another person into the mix, in your hypothetical situation, your changing the dynamics completely so that situation is for another time and another discussion.

Right now we are talking about what really happened. That is a drunk idiot is threatening people on the train.

The equation is simple, you don't want to get handled by cops then don't threaten innocent people and be drunk at the same time.

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Its not the yelling. That's where you are mixing things up. It's the threats being made.

Also by you adding another person into the mix, in your hypothetical situation, your changing the dynamics completely so that situation is for another time and another discussion.

Right now we are talking about what really happened. That is a drunk idiot is threatening people on the train.

The equation is simple, you don't want to get handled by cops then don't threaten innocent people and be drunk at the same time.

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ya that's not the answer to the question!
just answer the question!
I'm not fighting the threats, I'm fighting the unnecessary violence! this week its a drunk guy if the cop gets away with it next week its your grandfather think about it!
the-situation-was-defused-the-man-was-obeying-what-the-officer-was-telling-him-to-do........damn dude i didn't realize i had to talk to you like you re a child!!!!

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Its not the yelling. That's where you are mixing things up. It's the threats being made.

Also by you adding another person into the mix, in your hypothetical situation, your changing the dynamics completely so that situation is for another time and another discussion.

Right now we are talking about what really happened. That is a drunk idiot is threatening people on the train.

The equation is simple, you don't want to get handled by cops then don't threaten innocent people and be drunk at the same time.

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ya thats not the answer to the question!
just answer the question!
im not fighting the threats, im fighting the unnecessary violence! this week its a drunk guy if the cop gets away with it next week its your grandfather think about it!
the-situation-was-defused-the-man-was-obaying-what-the-officer-was-telling-him-to-do........damn dude i didnt realize i had to talk to you like youre a child!!!!

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oh and bottled95GT??
i do get it, it seems to me others are not getting it you being one of them! im not condoning i merely commented on the cops insane out burst, the situation was defused...the man was exiting the train!!!!!
if your so blind that you dont see this along with 15 other people i hate to see what the future holds for our freedom!!!

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Exiting the train doesn't mean your not going to jail for threatening the lives of others. I don't know why you don't understand that. The guy resisted arrest after getting off the train that's why the cop got more physical, he already sealed his fate, he wasn't going home after getting off the train. You don't get out of going to jail when you stop doing something that is illegal.

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Its not the yelling. That's where you are mixing things up. It's the threats being made.

Also by you adding another person into the mix, in your hypothetical situation, your changing the dynamics completely so that situation is for another time and another discussion.

Right now we are talking about what really happened. That is a drunk idiot is threatening people on the train.

The equation is simple, you don't want to get handled by cops then don't threaten innocent people and be drunk at the same time.

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ya thats not the answer to the question!
just answer the question!
im not fighting the threats, im fighting the unnecessary violence! this week its a drunk guy if the cop gets away with it next week its your grandfather think about it!
the-situation-was-defused-the-man-was-obaying-what-the-officer-was-telling-him-to-do........damn dude i didnt realize i had to talk to you like youre a child!!!!

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Its not the yelling. That's where you are mixing things up. It's the threats being made.

Also by you adding another person into the mix, in your hypothetical situation, your changing the dynamics completely so that situation is for another time and another discussion.

Right now we are talking about what really happened. That is a drunk idiot is threatening people on the train.

The equation is simple, you don't want to get handled by cops then don't threaten innocent people and be drunk at the same time.

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ya thats not the answer to the question!
just answer the question!
im not fighting the threats, im fighting the unnecessary violence! this week its a drunk guy if the cop gets away with it next week its your grandfather think about it!
the-situation-was-defused-the-man-was-obaying-what-the-officer-was-telling-him-to-do........damn dude i didnt realize i had to talk to you like youre a child!!!!

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the situation would only be defused when the drunk was in jail. The violence was justified when the drunk started fighting the officer, when the officer tried putting the handcuffs on him.

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Its not the yelling. That's where you are mixing things up. It's the threats being made.

Also by you adding another person into the mix, in your hypothetical situation, your changing the dynamics completely so that situation is for another time and another discussion.

Right now we are talking about what really happened. That is a drunk idiot is threatening people on the train.

The equation is simple, you don't want to get handled by cops then don't threaten innocent people and be drunk at the same time.

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ya thats not the answer to the question!
just answer the question!
im not fighting the threats, im fighting the unnecessary violence! this week its a drunk guy if the cop gets away with it next week its your grandfather think about it!
the-situation-was-defused-the-man-was-obaying-what-the-officer-was-telling-him-to-do........damn dude i didnt realize i had to talk to you like youre a child!!!!

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the situation would only be defused when the drunk was in jail. The violence was justified when the drunk started fighting the officer, when the officer tried putting the handcuffs on him.

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are you blind? there was no resistance!!!! violence is justified by violence, what planet are you from!
you dont kill a man with a white flag!!!!!!

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
It's very difficult for any of us to determine whether the drunk guy was obeying the cop. So your incorrectassumption he was obeying the cop is WRONG! Next people are plowed into the pavement all the time, if the pavement was glass you would hear about this all the time.

If you threaten someone and are showing that you are a violent threat then you should get handled. PERIOD!

Also your are not reading what I am typing. If you are threatening someone YOU-DONT-GET-THE-OPPORTUNITY-TO-OBEY-A-COP! Your not entitled that if you are being violent. Simple as a-b-c

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you dont kill a man with a white flag!!!!!!

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Originally posted by fasthatch: i would white flags are for cowboy movies not real life

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way to point that out thanks your so smart!!!!

[ November 24, 2009, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]

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