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Originally posted by *EPIK*:
Call me an LS1 nut swinger if you want, it is a good motor that makes great power out of the box. Am I a fan of the Camaro? Besides the 67-73, I am definitely not a huge fan, but I'm just a realist & you cannot deny the potential... Yes, with a 5.0 fox body & $5k to work with, one could most definitely DEMOLISH a stock F-Body. You could build a healthy 347 with that amount of cash, & the platform is MUCH lighter. That is not a real world comparison though, because the cars aren't even from the same time period. Like I said earlier, put up a Mustang from the same time period (98-02) up against a stock F-Body, or give both owners the same budget to work with, & the F-Body will win every time!!!
It's funny all of y'all think I'm hating on Mustangs, or jockin the Camaro... I'm definitely NOT at all, I'm just speaking the truth & being real... I love my Fox Body, & I would NEVER take an F-Body over my 91 coupe... But I also love my 418rwhp LS6 powered Cadillac equally as much. Yeah it's not a very fast car because it weighs almost 4000lbs, but it isn't built for drag anyway. But, just remember, this power was made with nothing but a cam, full exhaust, drop in filter, & a tune. Show me a similar CI, fully stock pushrod SBF motor (stock heads/stock bottom end/stock intake manifold) that will make that kind of power with the same mods???? It WON'T happen...
I have my Fox for drag racing, because that is what they are made for. ..
I'm gonna try to be done with this thread now.... LOL
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epik, i know where you are coming from and i'm not try to call you out. you just really make the best points to try to debate.
now we can't compare something that is stock and similar. ford never made a 346ci 10 to 1 with. now you want to use my motor 354ci or a 4v 351c, i can easy show you that a ls1 is just another boat anchor. the 4v 351c 100% stock has made 400 on the engine dyno. with out changing anything.
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edit: for all you guys that think i'm just a ford nut swinger. i have built & owned faster bowties than most of you. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Foxes rock, FBodies rock mullets.
Foxes FTMFW!
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Foxes rock, FBodies rock mullets.
Foxes FTMFW!
for the win
[ April 19, 2012, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Foxes rock, FBodies rock mullets.
Foxes FTMFW!
Haha, good one.
I dont swing chevy or mustang, but that camaro will be my last.
On top of my rear end being a glass bottle, the window motors are probably made from plastic. The hump on passenger side floor makes it difficult for a big person, or someone taller than 5;10 to sit there without seat all the way back.
The rear seats are better folded down, or removed. You could have a midget in the front and the back and someones knees will be somewhere uncomfortable.
The interior was nicer than my 02', there wasnt any rattles. Nothing was broken, no dash cracks. The leather held up nicely, with 110k only had one inch sized crack.
They do eat oil, alot. Inbetween oil changes, you will need to add half a quart. Which isnt bad. The stereo has the speakers in the right spots as far as quality.
But everyone is right, i look at it like this.
Get a fox if you work with your hands, and you like to watch your progress. For a beginner an ls1 isnt the right car to mod.
Whatever you choose, who gives a fuck what anyone says?
People feel like their opinion means shit on the internet, or their facts are always right. Weather its a fact or not, i still look at everything as an opinion from that person. Because everyone is different on judgement.
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[ April 19, 2012, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
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Originally posted by Wrenchin:
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Foxes rock, FBodies rock mullets.
Foxes FTMFW!
Haha, good one.
I dont swing chevy or mustang, but that camaro will be my last.
On top of my rear end being a glass bottle, the window motors are probably made from plastic. The hump on passenger side floor makes it difficult for a big person, or someone taller than 5;10 to sit there without seat all the way back.
The rear seats are better folded down, or removed. You could have a midget in the front and the back and someones knees will be somewhere uncomfortable.
The interior was nicer than my 02', there wasnt any rattles. Nothing was broken, no dash cracks. The leather held up nicely, with 110k only had one inch sized crack.
They do eat oil, alot. Inbetween oil changes, you will need to add half a quart. Which isnt bad. The stereo has the speakers in the right spots as far as quality.
But everyone is right, i look at it like this.
Get a fox if you work with your hands, and you like to watch your progress. For a beginner an ls1 isnt the right car to mod.
Whatever you choose, who gives a fuck what anyone says?
People feel like their opinion means shit on the internet, or their facts are always right. Weather its a fact or not, i still look at everything as an opinion from that person. Because everyone is different on judgement.
I'm going to build my POS fox with just HCI, a baby s trim with a face plated TKO or C4 hopefully I run mid 13's ![[Wink]](wink.gif) ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Originally posted by ISP89LX:
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Originally posted by Wrenchin:
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Foxes rock, FBodies rock mullets.
Foxes FTMFW!
Haha, good one.
I dont swing chevy or mustang, but that camaro will be my last.
On top of my rear end being a glass bottle, the window motors are probably made from plastic. The hump on passenger side floor makes it difficult for a big person, or someone taller than 5;10 to sit there without seat all the way back.
The rear seats are better folded down, or removed. You could have a midget in the front and the back and someones knees will be somewhere uncomfortable.
The interior was nicer than my 02', there wasnt any rattles. Nothing was broken, no dash cracks. The leather held up nicely, with 110k only had one inch sized crack.
They do eat oil, alot. Inbetween oil changes, you will need to add half a quart. Which isnt bad. The stereo has the speakers in the right spots as far as quality.
But everyone is right, i look at it like this.
Get a fox if you work with your hands, and you like to watch your progress. For a beginner an ls1 isnt the right car to mod.
Whatever you choose, who gives a fuck what anyone says?
People feel like their opinion means shit on the internet, or their facts are always right. Weather its a fact or not, i still look at everything as an opinion from that person. Because everyone is different on judgement.
I'm going to build my POS fox with just HCI, a baby s trim with a face plated TKO or C4 hopefully I run mid 13's
You might if its your first time! Ha!
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Originally posted by RONIN:
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Originally posted by ReekingHavoc:
This thread BLOWS!!!!
Just so you know...... "REEKING" is not spelled correct, it goes like this "WREAKING" -the proper way to spell it.
im sure he knows...look how he spelled kalifornia
Oh NO !!!! I feel like such a ghetto thug that can't spell now. Well damn I guess it's time to go back to adult school classes at night to get my GED ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
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LS1BRUH
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Can't wait till the Giants lose tomorrow night so all you Giants fans are forced to shut the fuck up.
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Originally posted by 86- 50:
if your lucky enough to find a 12 second
camaro, guarantee they got atleast cam and longtubes if not
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12.8 stock cam, stock suspenion, stock gears, stock shifter, hell this thing had cats still lol, basic bolt ons that can be done in a day. Sorry to rain on your parade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MPj7L_Kgjk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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LS1BRUH
See me in your ls1 bruh bruh
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Originally posted by Wrenchin:
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Originally posted by ISP89LX:
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Originally posted by Wrenchin:
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Foxes rock, FBodies rock mullets.
Foxes FTMFW!
Haha, good one.
I dont swing chevy or mustang, but that camaro will be my last.
On top of my rear end being a glass bottle, the window motors are probably made from plastic. The hump on passenger side floor makes it difficult for a big person, or someone taller than 5;10 to sit there without seat all the way back.
The rear seats are better folded down, or removed. You could have a midget in the front and the back and someones knees will be somewhere uncomfortable.
The interior was nicer than my 02', there wasnt any rattles. Nothing was broken, no dash cracks. The leather held up nicely, with 110k only had one inch sized crack.
They do eat oil, alot. Inbetween oil changes, you will need to add half a quart. Which isnt bad. The stereo has the speakers in the right spots as far as quality.
But everyone is right, i look at it like this.
Get a fox if you work with your hands, and you like to watch your progress. For a beginner an ls1 isnt the right car to mod.
Whatever you choose, who gives a fuck what anyone says?
People feel like their opinion means shit on the internet, or their facts are always right. Weather its a fact or not, i still look at everything as an opinion from that person. Because everyone is different on judgement.
I'm going to build my POS fox with just HCI, a baby s trim with a face plated TKO or C4 hopefully I run mid 13's
You might if its your first time! Ha!
SSSsshhh it deff wont me by first time, just keep it on the low don't want the LS1 owners to know im trying to make some mula hahaha , Me and my bro in law will finish putting her together soon and he's a former ls1 owner and he's even excited to see my slow fox come out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hQ-W-pMvx8&feature=channel&list=UL
Beat them with a stick!
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Originally posted by 02angrybird:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 86- 50:
if your lucky enough to find a 12 second
camaro, guarantee they got atleast cam and longtubes if not
more.
12.8 stock cam, stock suspenion, stock gears, stock shifter, hell this thing had cats still lol, basic bolt ons that can be done in a day. Sorry to rain on your parade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MPj7L_Kgjk&feature=youtube_gdata_player [/QUOTE
Is this yours? and people is saying 12's stock, that car had everything but a cam with nitto's, and barely got into the 12's. But if its yours good run, So now thats one 12 second and probably the only one in this thread of people jocking there ls1 camaro\firebird's. keep your personal times coming guys, can't wait to hear.
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It was mine, It had almost everything with full weight and a trunk full of junk lol... And no they don't run 12s stock and if anyone says that they're full of shit
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What do LS1 F-Bodies trap in 100% stock trim? I don't see how a 12.99 would be impossible with a stock LS1 F-Body on slicks with a good driver...
My 03 Mach 1 ran a 12.73, & that was with a trap speed of only 107, with a 1.6 60ft. The car made 315 rwhp/323rwtq. I'm pretty sure a stock F-Body should be trapping close to 107 stock right?
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Its definitely possible to get into 12's stock with slicks. I'd like to see how long the rear end lasts though
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Its definitely possible to get into 12's stock with slicks. I'd like to see how long the rear end lasts though
+1 on the rearend... Mine didn't break but it was leaking from between the axle tubes and the housing.
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Its definitely possible to get into 12's stock with slicks. I'd like to see how long the rear end lasts though
Oh yeah, I forgot about the S-10 rear end those things have under them LOL...
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Originally posted by *EPIK*:
What do LS1 F-Bodies trap in 100% stock trim? I don't see how a 12.99 would be impossible with a stock LS1 F-Body on slicks with a good driver...
My 03 Mach 1 ran a 12.73, & that was with a trap speed of only 107, with a 1.6 60ft. The car made 315 rwhp/323rwtq. I'm pretty sure a stock F-Body should be trapping close to 107 stock right?
107.9 for me. No gears, 13.6 @ 107.9, high 60 ft. If I shaved a second off the 60, I would have ran an identical time.
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Originally posted by Wrenchin:
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Originally posted by *EPIK*:
What do LS1 F-Bodies trap in 100% stock trim? I don't see how a 12.99 would be impossible with a stock LS1 F-Body on slicks with a good driver...
My 03 Mach 1 ran a 12.73, & that was with a trap speed of only 107, with a 1.6 60ft. The car made 315 rwhp/323rwtq. I'm pretty sure a stock F-Body should be trapping close to 107 stock right?
107.9 for me. No gears, 13.6 @ 107.9, high 60 ft. If I shaved a second off the 60, I would have ran an identical time.
Yup, that was about what I expected. The cars are pretty similar in weight too.
But, my Mach wasn't stock...Full exhaust, intake, tune, 4.10's, & full road race suspension.
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My buddy John used to run 12.80's all day long in a stock 01 automatic Z28 Camaro with a K&N and normal street tires.I dont even like Camaros so you know i aint lyin either.He used to kill em out at the spots.
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here lets just do this. ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
11.80 @ 110.6 1.58 9" M/T ET Drag Sac Notch1320 88 Coupe N/A 311 Unported E7's, Stock Intake & TB & Stock Lift Cam. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) well now lets see a stock ls1 do this. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) now what do you think would happen if he got h/c/i on this little pup. not to mention if he had a 331/347.
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