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Originally posted by 03SHKER:
They're decent springs, but Like Jon said, if you really want to race it, there is no substitute for coilovers. And what are your plans on shox/struts? They have just as much of an impact on your ride as the springs. I have Koni yellows & Griggs coilovers on mine, and I'll never do conventional lowering springs again.

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Originally posted by 9cobra9:
im looking for some good auto x tires, that will also be used on the street a little. what is better for the price 275 ps2's or 295 nitto nt555r 2's. they're the same price, but i dont know which one would be best, im trying to keep in just under 300 per tire. or is there anything better?

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Front Coil-Over Hardware Kit for Koni Struts FCO 2000 works with most common brands
Front Coil-Over Hardware Kit for Bilstein Struts Mustang FCO 2000 B
Griggs offers a setup for Koni/Tokico or Bilsteins. You can also use the Maximum coilover kit with the Griggs setup. I personally have the Griggs coilover kit, Koni yellows, Hypercoil 350 springs & Maximum C/C plates on mine. I won't change it.

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Originally posted by 1Sicgt:
Don't do the IRS swap. The IRS theory is great, just a shame ford didn't have someone good design it. IRS should gain negative camber as it compresses to allow the tire to keep full contact with the pavement, but ford's does not. So as it compresses more, you start loosing traction. Plus the weight of the IRS is unreal. It is way heavier than the Solid. I would stick with doing a good panhard torque arm set-up for your purpose. Yes the Watts link design is superior to a panhard, but cost vs. what your plans are, just go with Panhard. Now you might wanna look into getting the coilover kit with out shock and struts from them. You can buy just the coilovers kits from MM. For what your plans are, go with the more cost effective tokicos. If you were into more competition all the time, I'd say pay the extra buck for the koni full kit, butt seeing you plan on doing auto-x and here and there events this would be a good set-up. Also do you plan on driving the car on the street alot, or just weekends, and events? If doing little street driving look into some dot track tires, Maybe a Nitto 555R II or a Toyo RA-1. That way you can have some extra grip for these events. I know I haven't said anything on bilsteins, thats becuase, I found, its best to get something adjustable, so you can tune the ride to "your" driving style. Where as the bilsteins are preset valving. So it could be an expensive hit or miss on the feel if you like them or not. At least with the others I listed, you can tune the bound and rebound to how you drive, and how you want your car to handle. I talked with Tokico at SEMA last year about the new D-Spec line of struts and shocks, I'll I can tell you is that they are probably more adjustable than the Koni Yellow DA's. They are 10x more adjustable the the old Tokico Illumina's. It's a much better built peice then people give them credit for.

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I Really appreciate your advice man

I was actually looking at the new Tokico's with a coilover suspension in mind. But from what ive heard the Koni's just rock as far as performance and reliablility are concerned.

I pretty much drive my mach alot, daily infact... thats why I liked the idea of the adjustable setup... if its too stiff, i could soften it up easily. big bonus... but if I could get a bit more traction, I would gladly sacrafice ride comfort for that.

I was actually looking into the Toyo tires, so its funny you suggested them! what sized would you reccomend on an 18x9 front and 18x10 rear rim sizes?

Thanks again

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Originally posted by 9cobra9:
im looking for some good auto x tires, that will also be used on the street a little. what is better for the price 275 ps2's or 295 nitto nt555r 2's. they're the same price, but i dont know which one would be best, im trying to keep in just under 300 per tire. or is there anything better?

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Personal experience talking here. I'll tell you to run the Nitto's. I have them. Been doing lots of events on them. So far have 9 weekends of HARD track abuse on them, still have tread and still sticky. If anyone questions if I am pushing them hard I was at Reno-Fernely last on them, I was doing 1:30 laps in my car. Thats pretty much full race pace there. And I am only pushing 215-220rwhp. Not too shabby.

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Originally posted by 98M3Pride:
I have and they rule all. I wish they lasted longer though.

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Front Coil-Over Hardware Kit for Koni Struts FCO 2000 works with most common brands
Front Coil-Over Hardware Kit for Bilstein Struts Mustang FCO 2000 B
Griggs offers a setup for Koni/Tokico or Bilsteins. You can also use the Maximum coilover kit with the Griggs setup. I personally have the Griggs coilover kit, Koni yellows, Hypercoil 350 springs & Maximum C/C plates on mine. I won't change it.

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That is really soft chris. On my car we run 450 front, and equivlant of 400 rear. On the 03 cobra run 550 front and 650 rear (IRS). I think I have another set of 400 or 425, you should try them. I bet you can shave a bit of time off your laps. What tires are you on?

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Jon, I'm a loser. Haha. I've only had them on for about 2 months, and haven't been to the track yet. Aug 13-14th will be the first time I get to test it all. I'm actually really happy with the setup. I had been in a car with 450's and it was to stiff for a daily driver. I'm sure it woulda rocked on the track, but I'm no where near the level you're at, and I'm not gonna try and act like I am.

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Originally posted by 03SHKER:
Yeah, they should work just fine. But you have to have them sent to Maximum to be grooved, for the coils to fit over them.

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Don't do the IRS swap. The IRS theory is great, just a shame ford didn't have someone good design it. IRS should gain negative camber as it compresses to allow the tire to keep full contact with the pavement, but ford's does not. So as it compresses more, you start loosing traction. Plus the weight of the IRS is unreal. It is way heavier than the Solid. I would stick with doing a good panhard torque arm set-up for your purpose. Yes the Watts link design is superior to a panhard, but cost vs. what your plans are, just go with Panhard. Now you might wanna look into getting the coilover kit with out shock and struts from them. You can buy just the coilovers kits from MM. For what your plans are, go with the more cost effective tokicos. If you were into more competition all the time, I'd say pay the extra buck for the koni full kit, butt seeing you plan on doing auto-x and here and there events this would be a good set-up. Also do you plan on driving the car on the street alot, or just weekends, and events? If doing little street driving look into some dot track tires, Maybe a Nitto 555R II or a Toyo RA-1. That way you can have some extra grip for these events. I know I haven't said anything on bilsteins, thats becuase, I found, its best to get something adjustable, so you can tune the ride to "your" driving style. Where as the bilsteins are preset valving. So it could be an expensive hit or miss on the feel if you like them or not. At least with the others I listed, you can tune the bound and rebound to how you drive, and how you want your car to handle. I talked with Tokico at SEMA last year about the new D-Spec line of struts and shocks, I'll I can tell you is that they are probably more adjustable than the Koni Yellow DA's. They are 10x more adjustable the the old Tokico Illumina's. It's a much better built peice then people give them credit for.

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I Really appreciate your advice man

I was actually looking at the new Tokico's with a coilover suspension in mind. But from what ive heard the Koni's just rock as far as performance and reliablility are concerned.

I pretty much drive my mach alot, daily infact... thats why I liked the idea of the adjustable setup... if its too stiff, i could soften it up easily. big bonus... but if I could get a bit more traction, I would gladly sacrafice ride comfort for that.

I was actually looking into the Toyo tires, so its funny you suggested them! what sized would you reccomend on an 18x9 front and 18x10 rear rim sizes?

Thanks again

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Originally posted by 9cobra9:
im looking for some good auto x tires, that will also be used on the street a little. what is better for the price 275 ps2's or 295 nitto nt555r 2's. they're the same price, but i dont know which one would be best, im trying to keep in just under 300 per tire. or is there anything better?

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Personal experience talking here. I'll tell you to run the Nitto's. I have them. Been doing lots of events on them. So far have 9 weekends of HARD track abuse on them, still have tread and still sticky. If anyone questions if I am pushing them hard I was at Reno-Fernely last on them, I was doing 1:30 laps in my car. Thats pretty much full race pace there. And I am only pushing 215-220rwhp. Not too shabby.

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so, i take it that they are a lot better than the nt555's bc i am really disappointed in them. have u tried the ps2's by any chance?

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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:
get the maximum motorsports front bumpsteer and rear IRS bumpsteer kits. good stuff....

chris...
who is puttin on the event?

marek

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