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*Als50*
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Pm sent. Remember the "kiss" principle, Tom. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Lee's seen my setup in my bucket. 1/0 gauge wire with a 200ap fuse.
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racsirx
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Originally posted by SacGrown89GT:
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http://www.corral.net/index.php/tech/electronics/67-fox-3-130-amp-3g-alternator-upgrade
but no where in there does it say about a 4ga wire and fuse
I posted it to show you the voltage readings, yours seemed kinda of low
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Yeah like i said only when i rev up jus a tiny but the volts shoot up
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Ok something is def wrong. So i just checked it and at idle with no a/c or lights its at high 12s. With ac and lights high 11s. I think that alt is no good. Ima go tommorow and swap it out  
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Tom Renzo
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That alternator is NG. Or it is turning to slow. Pulley ratio please!!! By the way 200A breaker or fuse and a 1/0 cable. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Talk about a waste of money. Read the article the guy used a number 10 AWG in the article
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Yeah ima exchange it tomorrow before something messes up
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racsirx
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Originally posted by Tom Renzo:
That alternator is NG. Or it is turning to slow. Pulley ratio please!!! By the way 200A breaker or fuse and a 1/0 cable. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Talk about a waste of money. Read the article the guy used a number 10 AWG in the article
Yeah but that was written back in 1996, I always use 4 gauge
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Tom......with all due respect....STFU....thanks....
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Dp.
[ 2014-04-26, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: *Als50* ]
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What is STFU???? Does that make an alternator work properly. I have been in this business for many years and even a trunk mounted battery does not require a 1/0 cable. And i crank over 1600 WHEEL HP ENGINES. Why in the world would an alternator need a 1/0 cable. If that is what floats your boat that is great. But an entire waste of time as the ALT lug at even 5/16 diameter can never handle the current a 1/0 cable can carry. Basically you are limited to the size of the battery lug on the ALT. So does this alternator have a GIGANTIC BOLT TO CARRY THAT CURRENT??? Please advise.
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I have a belly button ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
I came to a conclusion that the alt it a POS and im returning it tomorrow. Ill keep you guys posted tomorrow on outcome. Im also going to put the circuit breaker closer to battery instead of alternator. Thanks cafords i appreciate any help and you guys have been plenty ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
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I think you have a bum alt. I checked my mustang today and it has a 130 and it idles at 14.6 volts as it should.
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@*Als50* here is a detroit with a 250Amp alt. Look at the size of this alternator. It is a true full output unit capable of a full 250 Amps. Note the factory battery cable. It is a number 4 AWG. Now tell me you have a 200Amp alternator that fits the stock mount on any car you own or have built that needs a 1/0 cable. I for one call that a stretch at best. So how big are your battery cables 4/0 fascinating!! This alternator has 7/16 uss lugs for the ground and battery feed and it is fed with a number 4 AWG as stated above and verified by my trusty craftsmen open end wrench. Thank YOU
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Its time to step away from the computer, Tom.....
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Why is it that you do not like good info!! Or are you so versed in the automotive trades you do not like to hear factual info!!! Just checking. By the way i double checked the battery lug size on a 3G and it can handle exactly 100 Amps continuously. So that would necessitate a number 8 AWG. But being an alternator in a car only puts out app 40-45% of its power it would safely be wired with a number 10 AWG. So be it as it may your number 1/0 cable is mighty impressive to people that do not understand whats going on or just a talking point at the car hang out. Thanks
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Tom Renzo easy search pops up all the other ford site you have been to and one by one everyone found out your just a hack, talk alot of bullshit and have no verified experience at all. GTFOH.
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Update:
Got another alternator today. Volts still read low. Im taking battery in tomorrow to get checked. Anyone have a clue of what it can be besides alternator or battery? Basically my volts never hit 14. And since day one volts drop from 11-high 13s. Its fkn frustrating
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bad cell in the battery. and when they check it with the cheezy volt meter ove rthe counter and say it good have them put it on the charger to "full charge" it and it may not take a full charge because it has a bad cell. just my 2 cents not that it not happened before...
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bad cell in the battery. and when they check it with the cheezy volt meter ove rthe counter and say it good have them put it on the charger to "full charge" it and it may not take a full charge because it has a bad cell. just my 2 cents not that it not happened before...
Yeah its what im thinking now. Good thing i have warranty on it. Gonna jus get a new one. F all the bs! Thanks
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did you change the pulley? i put my stock pulley on the 3g, i read that the stock 3g pulley spin slower.
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@ Triple B If you think i BS that is your prerogative. But as far as my ability building cars and owning a shop that has been in my family since 1900. I have a photo for you. my reputation is everything and in this business people do not like to hear when they do something wrong or someone corrects them. That is what these sites are all about. It is personal experience and what works in this business. If you like i will bow out of this site if in fact you can post a photo of your accomplishments. Bellow is some of my accomplishments. First place in many many car shows across the country with my cars that i build. So here is some now post yours or tell your story walking. Now can you identify the car bellow. I could care less what you say about me i was trying to help this guy out. Sorry for taking my time to help this person as usual there is someone like you that gets pissed off when someone actually knows something about a subject. I think in 51 years i have earned the ability to pass on my knowledge. If in fact this site and other car sites do not like my answers PROVE ME WRONG . If so i will man up and move on just so your pride is not hurt. Now i have to go to work as i have been doing in my shop for 51 years. And William Chase from SEAL POWER seems to like my engine building techniques as they used my Connecting rod modification to repair and recall thousands of 2.3 fords which i specialize in, Now i am not mad at you but you should give people a chance before bad mouthing them. Please explain what is with you and the attitude!!
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Here is the print for the 3G did you wire it correctly and does the dash alt or battery light up when you key the car?? If in fact the light on the dash does not come on it wont charge. Good luck!!
http://www.bcbroncos.com/3ginstall.pdf
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