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Topic: GLOWING HEADERS !!! any ideas???
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95 GT
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so i put back on the x pipe and no good...im so fustrated...its back exactly how i had it before i started f'n with the dam exhaust and now im screwed....i dont know what to do. i didnt mess with anything else...
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Posts: 144 | From: Elk Grove | Registered: Dec 2009
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coupe5oh
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quote: Originally posted by 95 GT: so i put back on the x pipe and no good...im so fustrated...its back exactly how i had it before i started f'n with the dam exhaust and now im screwed....i dont know what to do. i didnt mess with anything else...
huh? are the headers glowing with the xpipe on? yes or no?
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Posts: 2288 | From: Hayward | Registered: Oct 2010
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95 GT
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ya, sorry. still glowing bright as day
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Posts: 144 | From: Elk Grove | Registered: Dec 2009
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95 GT
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so x pipe is on and headers are still glowing. I checked all the vacuum lines and check everything visualy but i dont see anything out of the ordinary. but heres a pic of my spark plug and maybe someone can tell me if im running to lean or rich since thats what everyone thinks is the problem, and im going to buy a timing gun so i can check that too
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Posts: 144 | From: Elk Grove | Registered: Dec 2009
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coupe5oh
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what plugs are those?looks like your electrode is gone...pull the other plugs and check them too...since the are out get new plugs if the rest look the same...since your car is stock get some autolite 25s
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Posts: 2288 | From: Hayward | Registered: Oct 2010
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95 GT
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ok sounds good. im going to check the timing tomorrow. what should it be set at for stock? it idles pretty high so maybe thats helping the headers get hot so quick
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Posts: 144 | From: Elk Grove | Registered: Dec 2009
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OneFastHatch.
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10* timing.
Adjust tps for idle after checking for vacuum lines.
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My vote is timing. Everytime I pull the dizzy on a motor and sart over on timing i get my headers to glow. Let us know but I bet it is timing.
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95 GT
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K ill let u know. Thanks guys
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95 GT
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Does anyone have a ecu for a 95 GT 5 speed I can borrow to see if its my computer that's the problem. Pm me or text me 916 591 2501. Thanks
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OneFastHatch.
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Check timing!!!!!!!!
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95 GT
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I'm lookin for a timing gun. My neighbors not around right now with his. I gotta check prices tonight on them
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Posts: 144 | From: Elk Grove | Registered: Dec 2009
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Greasy
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O'reilly's has them for $25 or so.
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95 GT
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k sweet. im going to try and get one tonight, and hopefully i can figure out the timing thing...but 10 degrees above center???
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Greasy
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Oops [ December 20, 2012, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: Greasy ]
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MACK.GT
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Its 10 degress before top dead center with the spout connecter removed.
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Marks93
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quote: Originally posted by MACK.GT: Its 10 degress before top dead center with the spout connecter removed.
^^^ +1 BEFORE
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Greasy
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Yep my bad thanks for the correction guys
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MACK.GT
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Have you been able to check the EGR yet?
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95 GT
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No. Nobody said anything about egr. What check if its working? How do u test it and wouldn't it show a code if it was bad?
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MACK.GT
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The egr position sensor would throw a code , but the valve itself is vacuum operated, so what you do to test it is , get a hand held vacuum pump , hook it up to the vacuum port, pump it till you see around 10 -12 (double check this spec)in hg, and its supposed to hold vacuum for like 20 sec. This test is done with the engine off. Your testing to make sure the valve isn't leaking at all. Also, the picture of that spark plug looks normal ,light. Brownish ,tan . However those spark plugs do not look stock. Also, a lean condition on either bank will throw a code. Go to autozone and rent a fuel pressure gauge, remove the shrader valve cover and hook that thing up to see what fuel pressure you have at idle. Is the engine misfiring at all ?? Popping sounds at idle ??
Posts: 446 | From: 510 | Registered: Nov 2010
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95 GT
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THANKS A LOT MACK! That information was really helpful. In response no the car does not misfire of have a rough idle. It does idle very high tho and when i give it gas and let of the pedal it sticks for a couple seconds and then drops. So I checked the timing tonight and hooked up the code reader and this is what i found out. i also checked the voltage and operation (per my maintence book) of the MAF, TPS, IAC and EGR. All tested good except for the TPS. The timing is sitting at exactly 10. I check the voltage of the the TPS throttle position sensor and its performing like it should. But the code reader is showing a 122 code for below minimum voltage. So i dont know. should i replace the TPS because its showing the code?? thats the only thing i saw out of the ordinary. The throttle is sticking so maybe that has to do with it. I try to adjust the idle down since its so high, by using the idle screw. but it does take the idle down. if anything it brings it up. im going to check for a vacuum leak tomorrow...
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95 GT
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the only code shown was the 122. it read a 111 (pass) and then the 122 and that was it
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95 GT
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and i cleaned the IAC but it didnt help. the spring inside looked like the bottom two or three rips were broken. i think. i dont know for sure because ive never seen a brand new one and know what its supposed to look like
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MACK.GT
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Ok well the iac sounds like it might be time for a new one soon. But what I see here is the idle screw adjustment you did, does not sound inline with the procedure that's outlined in the repair manual or online. The tps sensor must be unplugged while you set the idle with the adjument screw. Also the battery must be disconnected for 30min to clear the eec iv memory. That's actually the first step. Ill look up the link that tells you the step by step procedure for base idle reset. And post it on here...also it might be helpful to know what fuel pressure you have at idle. Maybe go with a fresh set of spark plugs, make sure the gap is correct , those ones you posted the picture of I think may be the problem , run a bottle of fuel injector cleaner too.
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