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CornOil_&_Boost
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
smart ass yes indeed.
matt im sure is on a similar cam as it is a custom SMOGABLE blower cam and traps 139's with a not too far off combo...id say the cam hes got is perfect for what the car is the only problem i see with it is the LSA, its 114...i think optimum would be more like 115-116. shit. people on theturboforum make 1000+ hp on F cams....give me a break.
the car is going to be nasty. bottom line.
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matt's cam probably has a little more lift than .512..and for his combo 114 is probably as much lsa that car would want....
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well im going to buy some twisted wedges and have them mildly ported and run that cam and a rp2 or a systemax and see what it does if im not over 450 im selling the car lol
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what do you think that car would run with 450rwp? the car has full supension minus k member and front arms, i will swap the coilover springs to some softer ones and the car will have slicks. 3.55s also
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what do you think that car would run with 450rwp? the car has full supension minus k member and front arms, i will swap the coilover springs to some softer ones and the car will have slicks. 3.55s also
I think it will make 1 orr 2 runs before it destroys the transmission into pieces....
but if it makes the power; prob 10.9's - 11.2's @ 126-128
[ February 07, 2009, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: jordan_0806 ]
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i would be happy for a while with that, and ya i forgot about the car having a t-5 ![[Frown]](frown.gif) i might wanna look into a g-force tanny. what rate spring what you rec for drag? the car has coil overs all the way around, tourqe arm,panhard bar, lower control arms and full leanght sub frames.
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i would be happy for a while with that, and ya i forgot about the car having a t-5 i might wanna look into a g-force tanny. what rate spring what you rec for drag? the car has coil overs all the way around, tourqe arm,panhard bar, lower control arms and full leanght sub frames.
I forget; but I think it's 250 lb fronts and 125's in the rear...
don't forget to get a wideband as well....
i might have my innovative up for sale soon.
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ya well i might pick that up off ya, and maybe those injectors if you have them next week, my maf is an sn style. ya hopefully next weekend i will start tearing into her, then have sean at aed tune it.
[ February 07, 2009, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: blown95svt ]
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is it the cars fault it won't make 450? Or is it the combo or the dyno?
If it dosent make 450 you should prolly sell it.......
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im just blowin off steam!!! lol i love that car!!!!!!!! sn cobra FTMFW!!!!
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8.5:1 Compression 306, AFR 165s, ported edelbrock rpm, anderson b31 blower cam, and 15psi. Made 510rwhp...
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well here are a couple combos from people on corral that cheered me up:
Stock 100k shortblock
GT-40 iron heads
B-21 cam
Holley Systemax
V-2 S trim @ 15psi
75mm TB
80mm Mas air
60 lb injectors
AODE w/ 4000 stall
500 RWHP, 450 RWTQ
Ran 10.60 @ 122 mph
have : stock block 0.30 over
novi 2000
afr 185 heads
systemax II intake
70mm TB
80mm MAF
powerpipe
42lb injectors
1.6 rockers
e-303 cam
longtubes
493whp / 439wtq on 10psi (stock pulley). Im not sure why a stock 302 shortblock would make any less power than my rebuilt 306.
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check this out stock longblock unported!
Yep, as Rio has said.....
Stock longblock with a Camshaft Innovations cam, and a S-trim made 505 rwhp and 467 rwtq. This is the 107,000 mile engine that Ford installed in my car back in 1994.
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Originally posted by blown95svt:
well here are a couple combos from people on corral that cheered me up:
Stock 100k shortblock
GT-40 iron heads
B-21 cam
Holley Systemax
V-2 S trim @ 15psi
75mm TB
80mm Mas air
60 lb injectors
AODE w/ 4000 stall
500 RWHP, 450 RWTQ
Ran 10.60 @ 122 mph
have : stock block 0.30 over
novi 2000
afr 185 heads
systemax II intake
70mm TB
80mm MAF
powerpipe
42lb injectors
1.6 rockers
e-303 cam
longtubes
493whp / 439wtq on 10psi (stock pulley). Im not sure why a stock 302 shortblock would make any less power than my rebuilt 306.
Brandon, not trying to rain on your parade but those combos are different from yours....so it's not going to make it any better for you to keep "bench" dynoing like that...
your best comparison is going to be the 2nd car; he's got a close combo to yours but better heads, a different cam, and longtubes (not sure you're going with those or not).....
just get your combo done and see what it puts out....even if it puts out 449RW; pretty sure that is going to be more than enough to smoke your drivetrain, clutch, etc....and be enough to break that block as it is....
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
matt! whats the specs on your smogable 140mph trapping cam??
Thats why its custom, only I know the secrets! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ...I'll say it has more lift and LESS duration than Brandons ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
matt! whats the specs on your smogable 140mph trapping cam??
Thats why its custom, only I know the secrets! ...I'll say it has more lift and LESS duration than Brandons
dick.....lol
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Originally posted by streakmatt:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
matt! whats the specs on your smogable 140mph trapping cam??
Thats why its custom, only I know the secrets! ...I'll say it has more lift and LESS duration than Brandons
dick.....lol
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the car has a fox computer swap
Gotcha. Well, you may want to get it tuned then. There's possibly more in the combo.
As for the 94/95 processor vs the Fox...if they are a superior computer, why is the FoxSwap so popular? I agree, no sense in dumping $$ into a combo without going all the way and tuning it correctly.
Well in stock unmolested and untuned form the 94/95 processor has some pretty sedate settings. No argument there. The tune is also very sensitive to cam/timing changes. That is why the fox swap is so popular. You can get the car up and running (not safe) enough to drive it over to the dyno to get properly tuned ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Then again people are just happy making the swap to get their hard parts in and then call it a day without a tune.
I'd say with anything with forced induction I'd pick the 94/95 which is load based...
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how do these heads sound? tea 185 twisted wedges with 2.02/1.6 ferra 6000 valves and wire locks 65cc? with my cam and ?????intake
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how do these heads sound? tea 185 twisted wedges with 2.02/1.6 ferra 6000 valves and wire locks 65cc? with my cam and ?????intake
I hope you're going to fly-cut the pistons. That's going to hit if installed straight up.
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i thought the trick flow heads cleared? i know i need to check the clearence
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My bad, missed the twisted wedge part. ![[Cool]](cool.gif) You should be fine, but definitely check it out!
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ok sweet! you started to stress me out!!lol i was about to just get some good ol 1.9/1.6 performers and hogg hem bi**hes out!
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do you think a 185 head will be a bit much on my combo?
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Originally posted by JohnB:
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Originally posted by 1sick65:
the car has a fox computer swap
Gotcha. Well, you may want to get it tuned then. There's possibly more in the combo.
As for the 94/95 processor vs the Fox...if they are a superior computer, why is the FoxSwap so popular? I agree, no sense in dumping $$ into a combo without going all the way and tuning it correctly.
Well in stock unmolested and untuned form the 94/95 processor has some pretty sedate settings. No argument there. The tune is also very sensitive to cam/timing changes. That is why the fox swap is so popular. You can get the car up and running (not safe) enough to drive it over to the dyno to get properly tuned Then again people are just happy making the swap to get their hard parts in and then call it a day without a tune.
I'd say with anything with forced induction I'd pick the 94/95 which is load based...
The problem with the SN95 computer is that you can not datalog load. Which means you can't accurately tune it for all driving conditions. This becomes increasing difficult the further from stock you modify the setup.
If you can't verify the load table in which the computer is pulling info from at any given moment, it makes it very difficult to dial in an accurate tune.
Hence the recommendations to swap to a Fox computer.
It is true the SN95 computer is superior.....but if you can't use it to it's potential due to aftermarket software 'issues', what use is it? The 2 years these computers were made are like an ugly step child of mustang PCM's. Nobody bothered to make the proper equipment & software to properly dial in these things because the OBD2 stuff has excellent data logging capabilities.....& the Fox stuff is very basic. (no load based tables)
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