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blown95svt
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i have a 95 cobra with a s-trim with 12lbs. i have a custom luanati blower cam .512/.512, 224/236 duration @50 114 lobe sepo. now what heads and intake should i run? and what kinda of power should i be looking at?
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heads im thinking AFR or trickflow twisted wedge im not sure but maybe around the 400 area .......give or take but i could be wrong and intake gt40 tubular or track heat
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Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads and the Street Heat intake. Should be a pretty good mached combo. I would say 375-400rwhp.
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blown95svt
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![[Confused]](confused.gif) did i forget to mention it has a blower lol? 375?????? my car is puting down more than that as it sits!
[ February 06, 2009, 07:30 PM: Message edited by: blown95svt ]
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Originally posted by blown95svt:
did i forget to mention it has a blower lol? 375?????? my car is puting down more than that as it sits!
have you dyno'd it?
I'd be really surprised if a stock gt40 heads/intake/95 cobra cam made much more than 350rwhp with 12#'s
I'm aiming for 400-450rwhp with trickflow heads/cam, edelbrock performer rpm intake, and 12#'s through a front mount intercooler with a blow-thru MAF and 42lb injectors with my `89.
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Originally posted by blown95svt:
did i forget to mention it has a blower lol? 375?????? my car is puting down more than that as it sits!
my bad ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I did not see 12lbs of boost. Yeah, you should be around 450rwhp or so.
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Originally posted by blown95svt:
did i forget to mention it has a blower lol? 375?????? my car is puting down more than that as it sits!
have you dyno'd it?
I'd be really surprised if a stock gt40 heads/intake/95 cobra cam made much more than 350rwhp with 12#'s
I'm aiming for 400-450rwhp with trickflow heads/cam, edelbrock performer rpm intake, and 12#'s through a front mount intercooler with a blow-thru MAF and 42lb injectors with my `89.
381/390 is what it put down, i was hoping to get into the 480 range, on corral they is 2 people who have broke 400s on stock motors
[ February 07, 2009, 01:23 AM: Message edited by: blown95svt ]
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if I were to do it again I'd go with edelbrock upper and lower, and some performer heads, along with a water meth kit. top it off with a can tune from Kurgan or a good ole AED tune.
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Edelbrock RPM heads, ported Performer Intake, TFS stage 1 cam, 42s, and NO tune with 12 psi on a stock block (93 Cobra) turned 417rwhp.
The hindering factor in your combo is the computer. It flat out sucks (if it's still the 94/95).
AFR 185s, fly-cut pistons to clear the 2.02s, Holley Systemax II intake, and a TFS stage 2 cam with a tune should get it around 430-440.
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the car has a fox computer swap
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Edelbrock RPM heads, ported Performer Intake, TFS stage 1 cam, 42s, and NO tune with 12 psi on a stock block (93 Cobra) turned 417rwhp.
The hindering factor in your combo is the computer. It flat out sucks (if it's still the 94/95).
AFR 185s, fly-cut pistons to clear the 2.02s, Holley Systemax II intake, and a TFS stage 2 cam with a tune should get it around 430-440.
The 94/95 computers always get a bad rep ![[Frown]](frown.gif) It is a far better processor/computer compared to the fox A9 family. It is like comparing a 386 to a pentium3 or 4. With a tune, or perhaps a tuner piggybacked onto the processor all bets are off as you can make the stock j4j1/cbaza computer adapt to mods as any other processor would with a tune. The only advantage to the A9 is that you can get the car to run off the bat with mods (cam/heads/whatever) to an acceptable level(just not optimized as you will be leaving a lot of hp/tq on the table). Then again with any serious mods why would you go without a tune anyway . I'd say the limiting factor is the wallet ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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the car has a fox computer swap
Gotcha. Well, you may want to get it tuned then. There's possibly more in the combo.
As for the 94/95 processor vs the Fox...if they are a superior computer, why is the FoxSwap so popular? ![[Wink]](wink.gif) I agree, no sense in dumping $$ into a combo without going all the way and tuning it correctly.
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blown95svt
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well it will be tuned the next weekend after the swap, as far as the cam go's what do you think about the specs johnb? and should i install this cam strait up? and i was really hoping to get close to the 500 relm, is there any hope? and i will be building a shortblock shortly after this also.
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Originally posted by blown95svt:
well it will be tuned the next weekend after the swap, as far as the cam go's what do you think about the specs johnb? and should i install this cam strait up? and i was really hoping to get close to the 500 relm, is there any hope? and i will be building a shortblock shortly after this also.
There is a very slim chance of hitting 500 with the cam. It's a F-cam with a touch more duration. If it was in a turbo car or you were using meth-injection or nitrous, I'd say yes. If you are thinking of just swapping the cam, I'd wait until you build a shortblock and add a set of AFRs or ProComps and save your gaskets...
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no the car is stock right now with the exception of longtubes and a fox computer. im gonna be doing the h/c/i next weekend, i bought that cam from a guy that made 505 at the wheels.
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Originally posted by blown95svt:
well it will be tuned the next weekend after the swap, as far as the cam go's what do you think about the specs johnb? and should i install this cam strait up? and i was really hoping to get close to the 500 relm, is there any hope? and i will be building a shortblock shortly after this also.
it's possible but if I were you, I'd back down the boost slightly, or you're putting that motor on borrowed time....
with a set of AFR 185's and the cam that you have; I'd go with a Systemax intake...
on 12 lbs; methanol; and a proper tune; you'll be hovering the 475+RW area.....
just remember you're going to need to upgrade more than just a fuel pump in that case...fuel rails SHOULD be a must for you....
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Originally posted by blown95svt:
well it will be tuned the next weekend after the swap, as far as the cam go's what do you think about the specs johnb? and should i install this cam strait up? and i was really hoping to get close to the 500 relm, is there any hope? and i will be building a shortblock shortly after this also.
it's possible but if I were you, I'd back down the boost slightly, or you're putting that motor on borrowed time....
with a set of AFR 185's and the cam that you have; I'd go with a Systemax intake...
on 12 lbs; methanol; and a proper tune; you'll be hovering the 475+RW area.....
just remember you're going to need to upgrade more than just a fuel pump in that case...fuel rails SHOULD be a must for you....
with the 185s i will most likely have to notch the pistons??
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Originally posted by blown95svt:
well it will be tuned the next weekend after the swap, as far as the cam go's what do you think about the specs johnb? and should i install this cam strait up? and i was really hoping to get close to the 500 relm, is there any hope? and i will be building a shortblock shortly after this also.
it's possible but if I were you, I'd back down the boost slightly, or you're putting that motor on borrowed time....
with a set of AFR 185's and the cam that you have; I'd go with a Systemax intake...
on 12 lbs; methanol; and a proper tune; you'll be hovering the 475+RW area.....
just remember you're going to need to upgrade more than just a fuel pump in that case...fuel rails SHOULD be a must for you....
with the 185s i will most likely have to notch the pistons??
yep...but TW heads would be good too....you won't be losing much, if any, on stock motor...
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its about 300 right now. dont kid yourself.
H/C/I....your lookin at about 387rw....max!
that cam is horrible for your street car btw....
matt! whats the specs on your smogable 140mph trapping cam??
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its about 300 right now. dont kid yourself.
H/C/I....your lookin at about 387rw....max!
that cam is horrible for your street car btw....
matt! whats the specs on your smogable 140mph trapping cam??
12#'s on Gt-40's should be around the 350RW; I was giving him the benefit of the doubt with the 380+RW.....
with just methanol and heads; he'd be over 400RW easily....it's been done time and time again...the right cam and intake make up a good difference as well....
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@7K -just curious but why you think that cam isn't a good choice for a street car.
I'd run Trickflows and an edelbrock intake. My Saleen put down 450 to the wheels without the meth on a 130k tired oll motor with an s-trim.
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thats why im trying to get the right proven combo the first time. if i need to i will order a custom cam
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thats why im trying to get the right proven combo the first time. if i need to i will order a custom cam
I would spend the extra dough and get a custom cam...
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@7K -just curious but why you think that cam isn't a good choice for a street car.
I'd run Trickflows and an edelbrock intake. My Saleen put down 450 to the wheels without the meth on a 130k tired oll motor with an s-trim.
hes being a smartass! lol thats what i like to hear, what intake and cam were you running and were the heads out of the box? and how much boost? was it tuned? thanks!
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smart ass yes indeed.
matt im sure is on a similar cam as it is a custom SMOGABLE blower cam and traps 139's with a not too far off combo...id say the cam hes got is perfect for what the car is the only problem i see with it is the LSA, its 114...i think optimum would be more like 115-116. shit. people on theturboforum make 1000+ hp on F cams....give me a break.
the car is going to be nasty. bottom line.
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