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badazlx
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crane 2031? if it has a carb# does that mean its legal in ca?
Brand: Crane Cams Product Line: Crane CompuCam Camshafts Part Type: Camshafts Part Number: CRN-444225 Cam Style: Hydraulic roller tappet Basic Operating RPM Range: 2,000-5,500 Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift: 214 Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift: 220 Duration at 050 inch Lift: 214 int./220 exh. Advertised Intake Duration: 276 Advertised Exhaust Duration: 282 Advertised Duration: 276 int./282 exh. Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.513 in. Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.529 in. Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.513 int./0.529 exh. lift Lobe Separation (degrees): 112 Intake Valve Lash: 0.000 in. Exhaust Valve Lash: 0.000 in. Computer Controlled Compatible: Yes Grind Number: 2031 CARB EO Number: D-225-46 [ February 10, 2008, 08:48 PM: Message edited by: badazlx ]
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Posts: 911 | From: roseville | Registered: Sep 2004
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2stangs69-91
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You forgot to read the part were my heads HAVE NICE PORT WORK. Which is very important because they flow far better than his heads on the exhaust. You just need to read the entire post I set my own cam up and tuned my own car and it Idled fine with a E-Cam. Try reading my post and understanding it before you try to bust my chops. I made the statement refeering to the exact Y303 heads he is running. [ February 11, 2008, 04:01 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
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badazlx
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my heads have mild port work.
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Posts: 911 | From: roseville | Registered: Sep 2004
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2stangs69-91
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fact is you need a smaller cam like mentioned and a smaller intake. Trickflow stage 1 cams are cheap if you can find a good one used. They seem to idle better also. I would love to trade you intakes but I don't think I rev mine high enough to make use of it either. good luck.
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badazlx
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i have realized this, i just need to figure out what cam i want, i kinda wanna do the swap before the weekend, i really dont like the trickflow cams, my buddie had one that he hated.
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Posts: 911 | From: roseville | Registered: Sep 2004
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2stangs69-91
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try this cam XE270HR at .050 218 224 .512 lift 114 LSA with the intake you want it will run good. Plus it has alot more aggressive lobes than either the trick flow or the Fcam. It might look the same on the surface but it isn't. Good luck BTW I have buddies with trick flow cams that have ripped along pretty good. Your other question on the carb number yes it is legal in CA. smog techs never check carb numbers on cams. I always give them the E-cam carb number if they ask lol. [ February 10, 2008, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
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Cstang5.0
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i have had good luck with the b 303 cam im running performer intake and heads it runs 12.9 on motor and have no idle problems
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badazlx
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not realy worried about idle, i actually love the rough idles, are you running 1.6's or 1.7's?
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Posts: 911 | From: roseville | Registered: Sep 2004
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Cstang5.0
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1.6rr runs pretty strong that was also with a 1.9 60ft there is a lot left in it
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badazlx
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see i was thinking about the b-cam with 1.7s my buddy had that for a while and that ripped along. i just dunno its all up in the air right now.
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Posts: 911 | From: roseville | Registered: Sep 2004
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JohnB
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I've got a 2031 cam here if you're interested.
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threethirty1
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why do you want so much lift? its a 302 with small heads.
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badazlx
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so what would you do? for a intake and cam?
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threethirty1
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performer intake, tfs 1 cam, or Fcam, thats all you need. Who ever told you to put that tfs-R on their was nuts.
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badazlx
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well i had it laying in my garage and it was that or stock. what about a street heat? a guy on the board has one new in the box he will trade me for. and will you have to degree the f cam to clear the pistons?
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Posts: 911 | From: roseville | Registered: Sep 2004
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Quick 88LX
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quote: Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S: quote: Originally posted by Quick 88LX: What you need to do is simple: Contact Ford Motorsports and ask them what they recommend. Your primary go fast part will remain Ford (heads) so the best thing to do is to talk to the guys who built that part and see what success they've had with various cam and intake combos. They will give you excellent advice since it's their product you're using.
Quick example: During one of my previous builds, a few years back, I just couldn't seem to nail down the perfect cam. So, I contacted my top three choices; Ford, Anderson FM, and TrickFlow. They all replied to my questions, even complimented one anothers products, while outlining the drawbacks/advantages of using each one of their cams instead of someone elses. In the end, and a dozen e-mails later, Trickflow suited MY combo best and ended up getting me into the high 12's with off the shelf parts and no fine tuning whatsoever... I hadn't even upgraded my fuel or electronics yet!
Bottom line: The TrickFlow cam complimented MY parts best and made my little pony a sweet runner. Do a little legwork on the front end and enjoy a much better performing combination on the back end. I have done this on every build since and I've enjoyed outstanding results.
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sup nick? long time no see!what u been up too, and do u still have the fox?
Chris, whattup bro. I have been gone for a while, I know. I am out here in Okinawa, you know, doing my Marine Corps thing. I left the 88 back in the States at my folks house so I haven't been able to play with it for about a year now. However, I left that beast in prime condition and it was running HARD. I never got it up to Sac before I left but after getting it tuned/dialed in, it was putting down a little over 340rwhp/355rwtq in that little 302. I ran a 12.8 before I ripped it apart again and it was probably making close to 300 at the wheels back then. With the suspension I have, I am looking for 12 flat... mid/high 11's on juice.
I saw the numbers your stang put down. Damn impressive. That ride was sick when you took me for a ride waaaay back when so I can't wait to see that thing again someday. When are you going to get some track time in that beast?
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RED@7kVERT *8850GT*
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first of all. what are your springs good for?
TFS stuff is proven. assuming your springs will hold ide go tfs1 cam and Track heat.....
its will have plenty of tq down low with 3.73's....and will pull strong to 6500.
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Quick 88LX
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quote: Originally posted by badazlx: will you have to degree the f cam to clear the pistons?
No, but it's always good to check.
As a side note: If you have to degree a cam simply for clearance, you are changing its characteristics and moving the powerband in a way NOT designed for the cam. An off the shelf cam is designed (most often) to be installed straight up. Unless you have the supporting hardware, degreeing it will hurt you, rather than help you. Custom cams, on the other hand, can often be designed for various installation positions; oftentimes working best when retarded or advanced (cam specific).
Do your homework and you won't be dissapointed.
But we all like that magical answer of "that cam will work best" don't we
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turbo50
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quote: Originally posted by badazlx: see i was thinking about the b-cam with 1.7s
If I remember right that is the same as running an F cam.
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turbo50
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You know the more I read this I say put that thing on the dyno. I bet you are seeing valve float/coil bind.
What condition are the springs on your heads?
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2stangs69-91
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quote: Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*: first of all. what are your springs good for?
TFS stuff is proven. assuming your springs will hold ide go tfs1 cam and Track heat.....
its will have plenty of tq down low with 3.73's....and will pull strong to 6500.
If his springs didn't float or bind already they would be fine with most the cams suggested. The stock y303 heads have springs for up to .540 lift. Hopefully he changed them for the ones recomended for his cam. If you want to get your car running fast then get the cam from John B. almost anything is better than what you have going on now. If you trade your intake for the steet heat intake you will have a nice combo going then. good luck. [ February 11, 2008, 04:21 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
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quote: Originally posted by turbo50: quote: Originally posted by badazlx: see i was thinking about the b-cam with 1.7s
If I remember right that is the same as running an F cam.
No they are different. The B would be closer to the X with 1.7's but still with less lift than the X with 1.6's
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badazlx
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ok so im gonna go with a b-cam and puttin my 3.73's in saturday. im trying to trade a trackheat intake for my r from 2sicgt. or else a performer rpm2
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Posts: 911 | From: roseville | Registered: Sep 2004
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