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Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
i have an 89 lx with stock bottom 140k with the following mods: svo y302 heads,svo 1.6 rr,comp 284h-r14 cam retarded 4*, trick flow r series intake,bbk 70mm tb/spacer, mac equal lenth headers,off road h pipe.

well i met up with some friends and i raced a 99 cobra with exhaust and only beat him but a car length. what is wrong with my car? is the manifold to big? cam swap? any help is very much appreciated.

thanks brandon
 
Posted by itznotahighway (Member # 7934) on :
 
i say the intake is way to big...step down to a smaller one..tfs street/track heat...or eddy performer
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
so too big of intake can slow the car down?
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Wow, talk about a mis-matched combo. A Trickflow street heat combo with 3.73's would walk all over both of those cars.

Ya, kill the intake. A Performer intake and a smaller cam would do wonders. I'd venture a guess that you're either experiencing valve float or coil bind as well, that's alot of cam for those heads/springs.
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
Wow, talk about a mis-matched combo. A Trickflow street heat combo with 3.73's would walk all over both of those cars.

Ya, kill the intake. A Performer intake and a smaller cam would do wonders. I'd venture a guess that you're either experiencing valve float or coil bind as well, that's alot of cam for those heads/springs.
+1

that intake and cam is like for a stroker setup or somethin. just too much for that motor. u'd need to spin that engine to like 6500-7k to see power, ur probably peaking at like 5500 or so. my .02
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
what cam should i run? not worried about smog just want to go fast. and would a rpm2 be to big?

[ February 10, 2008, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: badazlx ]
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
what cam should i run? not worried about smog just want to go fast. and would a rpm2 be to big?
rpm2 should be fine. still a tiny bit big, but better for ur setup than the trickflow one.

cam....i'll let someone else chime in because i always get flamed for puttin my opinion on cams. [Roll Eyes]

[ February 10, 2008, 05:38 PM: Message edited by: F8LSN8K ]
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
so i should trade my intake for the rpm2 then? and find another cam, so i need input on cams wanna do the swap next weekend, will i feel a big gain in power?
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
so i should trade my intake for the rpm2 then? and find another cam, so i need input on cams wanna do the swap next weekend, will i feel a big gain in power?
should feel more power and will run better overall. ya trade ur intake.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
should i run a motorsport cam?
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
should i run a motorsport cam?
when i do my heads and cam. i personally am goin with 165 afr's and a f303 cam. dont care what anyone says, thats just me.

u can get a f cam or what for some one to chime in and tell u get a custom cam or somethin more specific.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
do you think the x-cam would be too much?
 
Posted by Quick 88LX (Member # 1950) on :
 
What you need to do is simple: Contact Ford Motorsports and ask them what they recommend. Your primary go fast part will remain Ford (heads) so the best thing to do is to talk to the guys who built that part and see what success they've had with various cam and intake combos. They will give you excellent advice since it's their product you're using.

Quick example: During one of my previous builds, a few years back, I just couldn't seem to nail down the perfect cam. So, I contacted my top three choices; Ford, Anderson FM, and TrickFlow. They all replied to my questions, even complimented one anothers products, while outlining the drawbacks/advantages of using each one of their cams instead of someone elses. In the end, and a dozen e-mails later, Trickflow suited MY combo best and ended up getting me into the high 12's with off the shelf parts and no fine tuning whatsoever... I hadn't even upgraded my fuel or electronics yet!

Bottom line: The TrickFlow cam complimented MY parts best and made my little pony a sweet runner. Do a little legwork on the front end and enjoy a much better performing combination on the back end. I have done this on every build since and I've enjoyed outstanding results.

My .02 for the day [patriot]
 
Posted by caballosalvaje331 (Member # 8137) on :
 
i've heard a lot of good stuff aboud trickflow stage 1. that is the cam i'm putting on my car when i do my heads and intake. sounds real nice too.
 
Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Quick 88LX:
What you need to do is simple: Contact Ford Motorsports and ask them what they recommend. Your primary go fast part will remain Ford (heads) so the best thing to do is to talk to the guys who built that part and see what success they've had with various cam and intake combos. They will give you excellent advice since it's their product you're using.

Quick example: During one of my previous builds, a few years back, I just couldn't seem to nail down the perfect cam. So, I contacted my top three choices; Ford, Anderson FM, and TrickFlow. They all replied to my questions, even complimented one anothers products, while outlining the drawbacks/advantages of using each one of their cams instead of someone elses. In the end, and a dozen e-mails later, Trickflow suited MY combo best and ended up getting me into the high 12's with off the shelf parts and no fine tuning whatsoever... I hadn't even upgraded my fuel or electronics yet!

Bottom line: The TrickFlow cam complimented MY parts best and made my little pony a sweet runner. Do a little legwork on the front end and enjoy a much better performing combination on the back end. I have done this on every build since and I've enjoyed outstanding results.

My .02 for the day [patriot]
sup nick? long time no see!what u been up too, and do u still have the fox?
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
if thats the case with the tfs1 than the f cam should be just as good if not better.

tfs1..... .221/.225 .499/.510 112lsa

f303.... .226/.226 .512/.512 114lsa
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
can the f cam be installed strait up on the stock bottom end? will it make alot of power and with nitrous later on?
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
can the f cam be installed strait up on the stock bottom end?
what u mean exactly?

quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
will it make alot of power and with nitrous later on?
ya it can.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
if thats the case with the tfs1 than the f cam should be just as good if not better.

tfs1..... .221/.225 .499/.510 112lsa

f303.... .226/.226 .512/.512 114lsa
Why do you think that? Split duration cams work well with those heads. They are not that strong on the exhaust. I ran a E-cam with my GT40x heads and it worked out well. My heads have nice port work done to them. Plus the e-cam was free lol. One thing for sure whoever helped you set up your first combo ,do not use them again.

[ February 10, 2008, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
if thats the case with the tfs1 than the f cam should be just as good if not better.

tfs1..... .221/.225 .499/.510 112lsa

f303.... .226/.226 .512/.512 114lsa
Why do you think that? Split duration cams work well with those heads. They are not that strong on the exhaust. I ran a E-cam with my GT40x heads and it worked out well. My heads have nice port work done to them. Plus the e-cam was free lol
u just contradicted urself.....guys has ford heads..u said "Split duration cams work well with those heads." then u said "I ran a E-cam with my GT40x heads and it worked out well" which are fords heads aswell. so [Confused]
 
Posted by caballosalvaje331 (Member # 8137) on :
 
hey guys would the f cam pass smog? see i have a 95gt auto, and i 've heard if the lope is higher is better for the computer, is that true, lope on f cam 114 and i believe the stock cam is 115. reason i'm asking is cost if i'm putting a cam on my car i want to be computer friendly, don't have the money for custom tune.
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by caballosalvaje331:
hey guys would the f cam pass smog? see i have a 95gt auto, and i 've heard if the lope is higher is better for the computer, is that true, lope on f cam 114 and i believe the stock cam is 115. reason i'm asking is cost if i'm putting a cam on my car i want to be computer friendly, don't have the money for custom tune.
the f cam probably could pass smog. in a sn95 computers are sensitive to mods. so might be a pain in the ass for the car to idle. even when i did my e cam, car didnt wanna idle so had to go tune it. u can probably make it idle without a tune if the person knows what they are doin and how to set shit up. in my case he just "threw it in"
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
i meant will the cam need to be retarded to clear the pistons? and will it make good power?
 
Posted by caballosalvaje331 (Member # 8137) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
i meant will the cam need to be retarded to clear the pistons? and will it make good power?
i've read somewhere that tricflow stage 1 will clear, piston if using 1.9 intake and 1.6 ex valves. dont' know about the f cam.
 
Posted by caballosalvaje331 (Member # 8137) on :
 
but i's always better to check piston to valves clearance just to be safe.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
crane 2031? if it has a carb# does that mean its legal in ca?

Brand: Crane Cams
Product Line: Crane CompuCam Camshafts
Part Type: Camshafts
Part Number: CRN-444225
Cam Style: Hydraulic roller tappet
Basic Operating RPM Range: 2,000-5,500
Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift: 214
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift: 220
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 214 int./220 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration: 276
Advertised Exhaust Duration: 282
Advertised Duration: 276 int./282 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.513 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.529 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.513 int./0.529 exh. lift
Lobe Separation (degrees): 112
Intake Valve Lash: 0.000 in.
Exhaust Valve Lash: 0.000 in.
Computer Controlled Compatible: Yes
Grind Number: 2031
CARB EO Number: D-225-46

[ February 10, 2008, 08:48 PM: Message edited by: badazlx ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
You forgot to read the part were my heads HAVE NICE PORT WORK. Which is very important because they flow far better than his heads on the exhaust. You just need to read the entire post [Wink] I set my own cam up and tuned my own car and it Idled fine with a E-Cam. Try reading my post and understanding it before you try to bust my chops. I made the statement refeering to the exact Y303 heads he is running.

[ February 11, 2008, 04:01 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
my heads have mild port work.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
fact is you need a smaller cam like mentioned and a smaller intake. Trickflow stage 1 cams are cheap if you can find a good one used. They seem to idle better also. I would love to trade you intakes but I don't think I rev mine high enough to make use of it either. good luck.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
i have realized this, i just need to figure out what cam i want, i kinda wanna do the swap before the weekend, i really dont like the trickflow cams, my buddie had one that he hated.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
try this cam XE270HR at .050 218 224 .512 lift 114 LSA with the intake you want it will run good. Plus it has alot more aggressive lobes than either the trick flow or the Fcam. It might look the same on the surface but it isn't. Good luck BTW I have buddies with trick flow cams that have ripped along pretty good. Your other question on the carb number yes it is legal in CA. smog techs never check carb numbers on cams. I always give them the E-cam carb number if they ask lol.

[ February 10, 2008, 09:37 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by Cstang50 (Member # 4925) on :
 
i have had good luck with the b 303 cam im running performer intake and heads it runs 12.9 on motor and have no idle problems
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
not realy worried about idle, i actually love the rough idles, are you running 1.6's or 1.7's?
 
Posted by Cstang50 (Member # 4925) on :
 
1.6rr runs pretty strong that was also with a 1.9 60ft there is a lot left in it
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
see i was thinking about the b-cam with 1.7s my buddy had that for a while and that ripped along. i just dunno its all up in the air right now.
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
I've got a 2031 cam here if you're interested.
 
Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on :
 
why do you want so much lift? its a 302 with small heads.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
so what would you do? for a intake and cam?
 
Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on :
 
performer intake, tfs 1 cam, or Fcam, thats all you need. Who ever told you to put that tfs-R on their was nuts.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
well i had it laying in my garage and it was that or stock. what about a street heat? a guy on the board has one new in the box he will trade me for. and will you have to degree the f cam to clear the pistons?
 
Posted by Quick 88LX (Member # 1950) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S:
quote:
Originally posted by Quick 88LX:
What you need to do is simple: Contact Ford Motorsports and ask them what they recommend. Your primary go fast part will remain Ford (heads) so the best thing to do is to talk to the guys who built that part and see what success they've had with various cam and intake combos. They will give you excellent advice since it's their product you're using.

Quick example: During one of my previous builds, a few years back, I just couldn't seem to nail down the perfect cam. So, I contacted my top three choices; Ford, Anderson FM, and TrickFlow. They all replied to my questions, even complimented one anothers products, while outlining the drawbacks/advantages of using each one of their cams instead of someone elses. In the end, and a dozen e-mails later, Trickflow suited MY combo best and ended up getting me into the high 12's with off the shelf parts and no fine tuning whatsoever... I hadn't even upgraded my fuel or electronics yet!

Bottom line: The TrickFlow cam complimented MY parts best and made my little pony a sweet runner. Do a little legwork on the front end and enjoy a much better performing combination on the back end. I have done this on every build since and I've enjoyed outstanding results.

My .02 for the day [patriot]
sup nick? long time no see!what u been up too, and do u still have the fox?
Chris, whattup bro. I have been gone for a while, I know. I am out here in Okinawa, you know, doing my Marine Corps thing. I left the 88 back in the States at my folks house so I haven't been able to play with it for about a year now. However, I left that beast in prime condition and it was running HARD. I never got it up to Sac before I left but after getting it tuned/dialed in, it was putting down a little over 340rwhp/355rwtq in that little 302. I ran a 12.8 before I ripped it apart again and it was probably making close to 300 at the wheels back then. With the suspension I have, I am looking for 12 flat... mid/high 11's on juice.

I saw the numbers your stang put down. Damn impressive. That ride was sick when you took me for a ride waaaay back when so I can't wait to see that thing again someday. When are you going to get some track time in that beast?
 
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
first of all. what are your springs good for?

TFS stuff is proven. assuming your springs will hold ide go tfs1 cam and Track heat.....

its will have plenty of tq down low with 3.73's....and will pull strong to 6500.
 
Posted by Quick 88LX (Member # 1950) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
will you have to degree the f cam to clear the pistons?
No, but it's always good to check.

As a side note: If you have to degree a cam simply for clearance, you are changing its characteristics and moving the powerband in a way NOT designed for the cam. An off the shelf cam is designed (most often) to be installed straight up. Unless you have the supporting hardware, degreeing it will hurt you, rather than help you. Custom cams, on the other hand, can often be designed for various installation positions; oftentimes working best when retarded or advanced (cam specific).

Do your homework and you won't be dissapointed.

But we all like that magical answer of "that cam will work best" don't we [Wink]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
see i was thinking about the b-cam with 1.7s
If I remember right that is the same as running an F cam.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
You know the more I read this I say put that thing on the dyno. I bet you are seeing valve float/coil bind.

What condition are the springs on your heads?
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
first of all. what are your springs good for?

TFS stuff is proven. assuming your springs will hold ide go tfs1 cam and Track heat.....

its will have plenty of tq down low with 3.73's....and will pull strong to 6500.
If his springs didn't float or bind already they would be fine with most the cams suggested. The stock y303 heads have springs for up to .540 lift. Hopefully he changed them for the ones recomended for his cam. If you want to get your car running fast then get the cam from John B. almost anything is better than what you have going on now. If you trade your intake for the steet heat intake you will have a nice combo going then. good luck.

[ February 11, 2008, 04:21 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
see i was thinking about the b-cam with 1.7s
If I remember right that is the same as running an F cam.
No they are different. The B would be closer to the X with 1.7's but still with less lift than the X with 1.6's
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by badazlx:
well i had it laying in my garage and it was that or stock. what about a street heat? a guy on the board has one new in the box he will trade me for.
yes trade it!
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
try this cam XE270HR at .050 218 224 .512 lift 114 LSA .
hmm...... im thinking about that cam for myself [Big Grin]
Ecam aint cuttin it
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
ok so im gonna go with a b-cam and puttin my 3.73's in saturday. im trying to trade a trackheat intake for my r from 2sicgt. or else a performer rpm2
 
Posted by Chris C. (Member # 1949) on :
 
quote:
..... I am out here in Okinawa, you know, doing my Marine Corps thing.... [/QB]
Did u eat the banana? [Razz]
 
Posted by n2o347cobra (Member # 8208) on :
 
i had the e cam in my 94 cobra with gt 40 heads and the track heat with 1.7s it had idle problems but ran strong.then my mom got a 95 cobra and i put the trick flow stage 1 cam on her car with a cobra intak and 1.7s and i liked the trick flow cam a little better it has good power thru the rpm its all in set up..
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
does anyone know the powerband on these cams:
fms b-303
fms f-303
tfs stg1
 
Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on :
 
i have the tfs 1 on my 331....talk about a mismatch combo...stops at like 5600......... but the RPM 2 and the afr 185's keep goin ha kinda sux
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
thats what i dont want, i want something that drops off around 5800 or 6000.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by threethirty1:
i have the tfs 1 on my 331....talk about a mismatch combo...stops at like 5600......... but the RPM 2 and the afr 185's keep goin ha kinda sux
throw a XE274HR in that thing you will love it.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
o.k. so I glanced over most of the posts... what is it with ford guys and retarding a cam [Confused] that in my opinion is the quickest way to be slow on the street. I get the feeling alot of you need to retard the cam in order to gain piston to valve clearance, well why don't you just send me $150 in the mail for free. The thought of retarding a cam for this reason is a waste of a good cam for sure. 90% of the time I will advance a cam on the street or run it straight up. If you have to retard it then buy a different cam or notch/ change your pistons. Otherwise I'll be waiting for you when you finally get to the next light. [Wink]

srry for the ranting but I feel most of you have run these cams retarded due to poor advise in the past and wish to put a stop to it.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thirteen Twenty:
o.k. so I glanced over most of the posts... what is it with ford guys and retarding a cam [Confused] that in my opinion is the quickest way to be slow on the street.
Not if you have a turbo car.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by Thirteen Twenty:
o.k. so I glanced over most of the posts... what is it with ford guys and retarding a cam [Confused] that in my opinion is the quickest way to be slow on the street.
Not if you have a turbo car.
I agree srry I was speaking n/a drag racer or street car
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thirteen Twenty:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by Thirteen Twenty:
o.k. so I glanced over most of the posts... what is it with ford guys and retarding a cam [Confused] that in my opinion is the quickest way to be slow on the street.
Not if you have a turbo car.
I agree srry I was speaking n/a drag racer or street car
Well since you agree then you probably know what you are talking about!!

Right on.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by Thirteen Twenty:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by Thirteen Twenty:
o.k. so I glanced over most of the posts... what is it with ford guys and retarding a cam [Confused] that in my opinion is the quickest way to be slow on the street.
Not if you have a turbo car.
I agree srry I was speaking n/a drag racer or street car
Well since you agree then you probably know what you are talking about!!

Right on.
for close to the same reasons as a wide LSA on any boosted or nox cam grind I would think

[ February 14, 2008, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: Thirteen Twenty ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
lol why retard the cam on a turbo car? why not just buy the correct one in the first place? there is a person other than me(I only try it if it actualy is asking for it) who loves retarding OTS cams. He has some very fast cars and must be to busy to chime in. I have found if you get the correct cam in the first place, retarding it 4 deg or adv 4 deg show almost zero gain and you would feel it anyhow.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
lol why retard the cam on a turbo car? why not just buy the correct one in the first place? there is a person other than me(I only try it if it actualy is asking for it) who loves retarding OTS cams. He has some very fast cars and must be to busy to chime in. I have found if you get the correct cam in the first place, retarding it 4 deg or adv 4 deg show almost zero gain and you would feel it anyhow.
I've felt gains advancing cams, sure you could have it custom ground so you could call it straight up, but for me it's 2-4 deg advanced on the street
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
you must have a better butt meter than most. Most dyno sims show 2 to 3 hp or TQ changes either way.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
lol on the butt meter, however if I told you you could pick up 3 hp for 20$ in gaskets and less than an hour wouldn't you??
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
lol I would pay 20.00 dollars just to see you degree my cam in less than a hour.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
not talking about degreeing the cam but if you already have a running set up in a 5.0 then yes the front end could be torn down, timing changed and reassembled in an hour easy. not mod motors of course.
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thirteen Twenty:
o.k. so I glanced over most of the posts... what is it with ford guys and retarding a cam [Confused] that in my opinion is the quickest way to be slow on the street. I get the feeling alot of you need to retard the cam in order to gain piston to valve clearance, well why don't you just send me $150 in the mail for free. The thought of retarding a cam for this reason is a waste of a good cam for sure. 90% of the time I will advance a cam on the street or run it straight up. If you have to retard it then buy a different cam or notch/ change your pistons. Otherwise I'll be waiting for you when you finally get to the next light. [Wink]

srry for the ranting but I feel most of you have run these cams retarded due to poor advise in the past and wish to put a stop to it.
There are PLENTY of reasons for retarding a cam other than gaining P to V clearance, likewise there are more than one for advancing a cam. Things like the weight of the vehicle, useable RPM range, gear ratio, transmission ratio, and the engine's combo in general are just a few.

No need to applogize for the rant, you can save the applogies for the next time you advance a cam too much and it kisses a piston.

You have got to be a MoPar guy...lol
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
lol sorry I disagree, I would pay to see it done correctly. I have been a profesional mechanic since 1985 working at a ford dealer for over 4 years of that. You can not pull a 5.0 in a stall and drive it out in a hour with the timming chain re-degreed. [BS flag] I would put 500.00 dollars on it.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
[QUOTE]You have got to be a MoPar guy...lol
now that is just a brutal attack lol, you should be banned for that.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
lol @ mopar guy, yes I am....
and for $500 I'd be happy to, if you can't pull down the front end on a 5.0, either advance the cam using a three keyway timing chain set or use an offset cam key ( of which I'm sure by now you have never heard of) and button it back up, then I'm glad I'm not the one paying you by the hour to work on my car. I'm not saying it is a 10 min job, but it sure as hell shouldn't take more than a couple of hours. I've been wrenching long enough to know that I can accomplish this in about an hour.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
OK when do you want to do this ? I have tons of air tools you can do this in my driveway. All gaskets cleaned and replaced vehical up and running retimmed filled with coolant. say when? I need the extra money. I will put up 300.00 cash and my rockerarms and girdle you want or 500.00 in cash. Just have cash in hand to pay if you loose. I hope you can do it I will be rooting for you. We can video tape it for confirmation. I am not doubting your mechanicing ability. I worked flat rate for over 10 years and always made money doin it so you can call me slow if you want.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
nothing like a good pissing contest, lol. so you have a 5.0 with an adjustable timing chain set, or an off set cam key, and want me to come advance it??
what year car?? 15 or 17" wheels??
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
I just apreciate good work and I like to gamble. So it isn't a pissing contest. Heck I have won more cash than that on 1 hand of texas holdem. I haven't lost that much on one hand yet thank god lol. 15 inch. For this I could make a call and get one of 3 by tommorow. 89 to 90 Fox with AC power steering the works. 60 minutes lol hope a bolt doesn't break.....

[ February 14, 2008, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
the only bolts that usually snap are the water pump bolts, and obviously that would kill time, one of 3 cars huh? do all these have adjustable gears on them?? tomorrow isn't going to work since your in redding ( 3 or 4 hrs drive) and I have work to do, but it might be worth it to go out there some time for those rockers....
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
how bout I find someone on the board local? I could go do it for them for free and have them tape it?? then you could just send me the money/ rockers??
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
lol nope for 500.00 I have to be there
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
well let's hear from someone on the board local and we can set up a time for you to come to the bay area [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
it is going to be a litle while until I can travel that far. So go practice [Big Grin]
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
ok, so im swappin parts saturday, b-cam,1.7's, street heat intake,24#'s, 3.73's hopefully it will be a night and day difference. i will let you guys know.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
It should rip along prety good for you. Should put you into the 12's N/A or real close

call thirteen twenty it will only take him 2 hours for all that [Eek!] lol

[ February 20, 2008, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
lol.it should take me about 4 hopefully
 




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