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92coupe
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WOW my computer freaked out, sorry about that.
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94-GT BLOWN & STROKED
Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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TheBrain
I'm the Real
John Force
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Just to clear something up, The ports and chambers of my AFR 185's are BOX STOCK !!!!! Only thing Ed (FTI) did to my heads was upgrade the springs and set them up for his cam, YES, I am running an FTI cam.
Here's some food for thought
My 'vert weighs 3700 with me in it and a full bottle
It ran 11.24 @122 @3700lbs, now take my motor, drop it in a race prepped 2600-2700lb coupe (less driver) and what do you think it will run? My guess would be around 10.20's @ around 132+ mph
Now, take off the GT-40 intake and installed a ported RPM, a little cleanup on the heads and you're in the 9's
If you don't like AFR heads, Don't buy them. It's fine by me.
There is NOTHING worse than guys with 13-14 second cars telling someone how to run 10's
![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif)
Brian
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1989 LX vert 342
11.662 @ 116.65 1.57 60ft. N/A
10.227 @ 134.59 1.41 60ft 200 shot 3600lbs
2003 Ranger 4 door
15.99 @ 87
Posts: 1264 | From: Back in Redding CA | Registered: Jul 2000
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10.20's less driver would be pretty cool to see, LOL.
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Stimson
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Brian- Be sure to post your old box stock/off the shelf combo as well, it fits in this post as well ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
Posts: 2373 | Registered: Jun 2000
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TheBrain
I'm the Real
John Force
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Originally posted by st5150:
Brian- Be sure to post your old box stock/off the shelf combo as well, it fits in this post as well
OK, The old combo was AFR 165's and a TFS stage 2 cam. Ran a best of 11.64 @ 117.30 1.57 60ft w/150 shot and an altitude density 200 ft. The altitude density the day of my 11.24 @122.18 1.61 60ft w/200 shot was 1900 ft
For what it's worth, I picked up exactly SQUAT switching from JBA shorties to Hooker longtubes
Scott,
The reason I said the weight without the driver is because I am not going to build the car, so I wasn't going to include my weight. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Brian
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1989 LX vert 342
11.662 @ 116.65 1.57 60ft. N/A
10.227 @ 134.59 1.41 60ft 200 shot 3600lbs
2003 Ranger 4 door
15.99 @ 87
Posts: 1264 | From: Back in Redding CA | Registered: Jul 2000
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TheBrain
I'm the Real
John Force
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quote:
Originally posted by st5150:
Brian- Be sure to post your old box stock/off the shelf combo as well, it fits in this post as well
OK, The old combo was AFR 165's and a TFS stage 2 cam. Ran a best of 11.64 @ 117.30 1.57 60ft w/150 shot and an altitude density 200 ft. The altitude density the day of my 11.24 @122.18 1.61 60ft w/200 shot was 1900 ft
For what it's worth, I picked up exactly SQUAT switching from JBA shorties to Hooker longtubes
Scott,
The reason I said the weight without the driver is because I am not going to build the car, so I wasn't going to include my weight.
Brian
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1989 LX vert 342
11.662 @ 116.65 1.57 60ft. N/A
10.227 @ 134.59 1.41 60ft 200 shot 3600lbs
2003 Ranger 4 door
15.99 @ 87
Posts: 1264 | From: Back in Redding CA | Registered: Jul 2000
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Stimson
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Member # 51
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Originally posted by TheBrain:
There is NOTHING worse than guys with 13-14 second cars telling someone how to run 10's
Brian
Posts: 2373 | Registered: Jun 2000
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JARED
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quote:
Originally posted by TheBrain:
Just to clear something up, The ports and chambers of my AFR 185's are BOX STOCK !!!!! Only thing Ed (FTI) did to my heads was upgrade the springs and set them up for his cam, YES, I am running an FTI cam.
Here's some food for thought
My 'vert weighs 3700 with me in it and a full bottle
It ran 11.24 @122 @3700lbs, now take my motor, drop it in a race prepped 2600-2700lb coupe (less driver) and what do you think it will run? My guess would be around 10.20's @ around 132+ mph
Now, take off the GT-40 intake and installed a ported RPM, a little cleanup on the heads and you're in the 9's
If you don't like AFR heads, Don't buy them. It's fine by me.
There is NOTHING worse than guys with 13-14 second cars telling someone how to run 10's
Brian
Great response.
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Posts: 5685 | From: EASTBAY | Registered: Jan 2002
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turbo302
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Here's a nice 10sec. combo. that I built for a customer of mine (on a budget):
Model LX
Wt. 3,370lbs. w/driver
Engine - stock 302 short block (built by Big Boy Racing)
Vortech S-trim
TB/intake 70mm Trick Flow st intake
Cam E303 (you could get more with the AFMB2 1.6rr)
Mass air proM 77mm
Fuel rail-stock
Pump-255+Trex
injectors 38lb
mac 1 5/8 unequal
computer-stock (I tuned it with fuel pressure & timing)
373 gears
Big Boy Racing sub-frame connectors
Mega byte juniors
lowers Big Boy Racing uppers
This car was driven to and from the race track, best time was a 10.79 at 126 with a 1.59 60ft, he ran consistent 10.80's and he street raced it all the time winning a lot of money. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) The only other way you could get 10's out of a 302 is with nitrous, but I would not recommend the stock block. With that much nitrous, it would be hard for the crank to stay in the mains . ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) A turbo would be nice but I realize that everybody can't afford a turbo setup.this was a kickass motor built on a budget S-trim was bought used.
turbo302
BIG BOY RACING FABRICATION
[ June 30, 2003, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: turbo302 ]
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turbo302
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Big Boy Racing Fabrication
www.bigboyracing.com
Posts: 83 | From: bay area | Registered: May 2003
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Jeff S
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Originally posted by st5150:
Here is another consistant local 10 second car:
http://www.netwizards.net/~thndr50/specs/specs.html
How is that a consistent 10 second combo if that shortblock never ran with those parts in that car??? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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'90 Mustang LX: 8.53 @ 157.92 w/ 1.33 60' on DR's
'10 ZR1: FOR SALE
'14 E63 S: RENNtech ECU
'04 Gallardo: UGR TTG
Posts: 2121 | From: San Jose, CA | Registered: Aug 2001
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turbo302
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Yeah Jeff,
You are right. I was told Ben never ran the A4 combination. We were building our cars at the same time. We were supposed to race once he got his setup all finished, but I think he sold everything to buy a house. Then again, a used S-trim+302 can = 10's (on a budget).
turbo302
Big Boy Racing Fabrication
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turbo302
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Big Boy Racing Fabrication
www.bigboyracing.com
Posts: 83 | From: bay area | Registered: May 2003
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I didn't know TurboBen never ran that combo... when he was running mid 10's, he had the same heads, turbo and intake. What was different in the new combo? Just the short block?
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Early coupe,351 windsor stroker, Any good aftermarket aluminum head. Nice c-4 with a brake adjustable rear uppers and lowers. Victor JR intake and race carb (Holley) at least 800cfm. Nos Cheater plate system to go 9's.
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69 Mustang on hold
1991 LX hatch getting a make over
1994 F150 4X4 351
2006 Yamaha V-max 1200 Modded
Posts: 3711 | From: Redding | Registered: Oct 2002
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FasterDamnit
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
What heads????
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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turbo302
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same heads that i use trickflow any aftermarket head will work.when you force air(turbo supercharger)into the trickflows they kickass! look at the combo's in real street renegade,drag radil. turbo302 BIGBOYRACING
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turbo302
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Big Boy Racing Fabrication
www.bigboyracing.com
Posts: 83 | From: bay area | Registered: May 2003
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MR GO FAST
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He rans tens with the the supercharger and the turbo.
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1986 Gt that is faster than FOSTANGS pinto
Posts: 3729 | From: ATWATER/SANJO/RWC | Registered: Nov 2002
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FasterDamnit
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Originally posted by turbo302:
same heads that i use trickflow any aftermarket head will work.when you force air(turbo supercharger)into the trickflows they kickass! look at the combo's in real street renegade,drag radil. turbo302 BIGBOYRACING
so, 8psi (SC) on my setup (ported TW's) can gain 10mph?
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'92 LX T5
Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
'65 Mustang 347
www.fordmuscle.com
Livin' in the Carolina Pines
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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Jeff S
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Originally posted by st5150:
I didn't know TurboBen never ran that combo... when he was running mid 10's, he had the same heads, turbo and intake. What was different in the new combo? Just the short block?
Wrong again... he had a completely different motor. Different shortblock, cam, heads, and intake. Also different tranny and suspension.
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'90 Mustang LX: 8.53 @ 157.92 w/ 1.33 60' on DR's
'10 ZR1: FOR SALE
'14 E63 S: RENNtech ECU
'04 Gallardo: UGR TTG
Posts: 2121 | From: San Jose, CA | Registered: Aug 2001
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Jeff S
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
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Originally posted by turbo302:
same heads that i use trickflow any aftermarket head will work.when you force air(turbo supercharger)into the trickflows they kickass! look at the combo's in real street renegade,drag radil. turbo302 BIGBOYRACING
so, 8psi (SC) on my setup (ported TW's) can gain 10mph?
10mph easily. You should pickup 120-150rwhp.
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'90 Mustang LX: 8.53 @ 157.92 w/ 1.33 60' on DR's
'10 ZR1: FOR SALE
'14 E63 S: RENNtech ECU
'04 Gallardo: UGR TTG
Posts: 2121 | From: San Jose, CA | Registered: Aug 2001
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onesicklx
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
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Originally posted by turbo302:
same heads that i use trickflow any aftermarket head will work.when you force air(turbo supercharger)into the trickflows they kickass! look at the combo's in real street renegade,drag radil. turbo302 BIGBOYRACING
so, 8psi (SC) on my setup (ported TW's) can gain 10mph?
i pick up 9 mph with a novi2000,iron heads,stock cam...you with ported heads...
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Posts: 1955 | From: san jose, CA | Registered: Jun 2001
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FasterDamnit
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Well,
8psi from a little SN89 Paxton. Lots-o-drag. We'll see.
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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