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Topic: What combo for a foxbody
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bunchmyfunky
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What's a good combo for a foxbody to run consistant 10s ie. Motor size, H/C/I no n20 superchager is fine. What model of car would you use, tranny etc...
Posts: 2433 | From: Vacaville | Registered: Jul 2001
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Stimson
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Member # 51
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Here is a cool budget setup:
Pick your fave non 'vert body style
C4 tranny with a low 4000 RPM stall
Slicks and gears
Stock bottem end
TFS high port heads
Pick your favorite cam (TFS 2?)
Pick your favorite intake
Pick your favorite exhaust
Pick your favorite power adder
Posts: 2373 | Registered: Jun 2000
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JARED
Member # 779
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quote: Originally posted by st5150: Here is a cool budget setup:
Pick your fave non 'vert body style
C4 tranny with a low 4000 RPM stall
Slicks and gears
Stock bottem end
TFS high port heads
Pick your favorite cam (TFS 2?)
Pick your favorite intake
Pick your favorite exhaust
Pick your favorite power adder
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Posts: 5685 | From: EASTBAY | Registered: Jan 2002
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JoeT
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my car on a 150 shot is perfect for that (tremec 3550, spool, 302 H/C/I, + N20). So what if it's light. [ June 27, 2003, 11:55 AM: Message edited by: shade-tree ]
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Posts: 6785 | From: San Jose | Registered: Jun 2001
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93PONY
Mr. Valve Events
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Buy a notchback. Lighten it up a little bit to ~3000lbs without driver. Full drag susspenssion. ET Drags, etc. Stock longblock with home ported heads & plenty of valvespring. Aftermarket intake. Off-road exhaust & straight-thru mufflers. F303 cam. Single turbo kit with a T64 & 14-15lbs of boost. Plenty of fuel. Automatic prefered, but a Tremec will work.
High 10's at mid 120mph in the 1/4. It's been done with stock E7 heads actually.
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Posts: 4265 | From: Fair Oaks, CA | Registered: Nov 2000
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WANARNM
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quote: Originally posted by 93PONY: Buy a notchback. Lighten it up a little bit to ~3000lbs without driver. Full drag susspenssion. ET Drags, etc. Stock longblock with home ported heads & plenty of valvespring. Aftermarket intake. Off-road exhaust & straight-thru mufflers. F303 cam. Single turbo kit with a T64 & 14-15lbs of boost. Plenty of fuel. Automatic prefered, but a Tremec will work.
High 10's at mid 120mph in the 1/4. It's been done with stock E7 heads actually.
Turbo's kick ass!!
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Posts: 1390 | From: San Jose | Registered: Nov 2001
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onesicklx
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quote: Originally posted by 93PONY: Buy a notchback. Lighten it up a little bit to ~3000lbs without driver. Full drag susspenssion. ET Drags, etc. Stock longblock with home ported heads & plenty of valvespring. Aftermarket intake. Off-road exhaust & straight-thru mufflers. F303 cam. Single turbo kit with a T64 & 14-15lbs of boost. Plenty of fuel. Automatic prefered, but a Tremec will work.
High 10's at mid 120mph in the 1/4. It's been done with stock E7 heads actually.
Posts: 1955 | From: san jose, CA | Registered: Jun 2001
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92coupe
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Member # 1957
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quote: Originally posted by st5150: TFS high port heads
sorry man, but i have to disagree. 185cc heads, and then follow the rest of his reciepe!
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Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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onesicklx
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quote: Originally posted by 92coupe: quote: Originally posted by st5150: TFS high port heads
sorry man, but i have to disagree. 185cc heads, and then follow the rest of his reciepe!
i belive a lot of 8 second mustangs used those heads (high ports)...
anyone know the fastest car using afr 185...
Posts: 1955 | From: san jose, CA | Registered: Jun 2001
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Stimson
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TFS high ports have ran 10s, 9s and 8's behind 5.Os down Sacramento Raceway. AFRs.... 13s, 12s, 11s.
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92coupe
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Member # 1957
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really? i have heard that but never seen it. also are those huighports they use straight out of the box or been ported and all that? cause ive looked at the flow chart and they dont flow as well as other heads like R heads.
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Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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Stimson
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Well of course they were ported to run single digits. On the east coast, people have ran well into the 7's with them.... but shoot, turbo302 (check out the drag racing forum) on here ran a 10.2 with stock TFS TW's, FMS cam and a big turbo.
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AaronC
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quote: Originally posted by st5150: TFS high ports have ran 10s, 9s and 8's behind 5.Os down Sacramento Raceway. AFRs.... 13s, 12s, 11s.
I'm in the debating mood so, you're talkin box stock 185's vs. massaged highports. Plus you're most likely talkin NA (AFR) vs. supercharged (highports) with the ET's you've shown. What a comparison, lol
-------------------- 1991 GT Convertible: Stock 157k mile shortblock, HiTech cam, AFR 165 heads, Edelbrock RPM intake, 1 3/4 headers
12.23 at 112.99 Best MPH 113.97
Posts: 776 | From: woodland | Registered: Dec 2000
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Stimson
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On the AFR side, 13's = that guy with the AOD and E cam making 250 rwhp, 12's = your combo 11's = TheBrain's FTI185's + nitrous., 10's = Non existant, 9's = non existant, 8's = non existant, 7's = non existant, 6's = stop dreaming.
On the TFS side, we have 10's = turbo302's stock TW's, TurboBen with high ports, KevenL with high ports, 9's = KevenL's notch with ported high ports, 8's = Norman?( I think he got 8's off with the high ports), Herman with TFS R's, and god knows how many non EFI SBF's. [ June 27, 2003, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: st5150 ]
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AaronC
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Hehe, don't leave out Mike or Rhett in the 11's NA. Mike has the potential to squeek a very high 10 NA (ideal conditions), but we'll see. All the highport guys are boosted. Wheres the hot LOCAL NA highport guys
-------------------- 1991 GT Convertible: Stock 157k mile shortblock, HiTech cam, AFR 165 heads, Edelbrock RPM intake, 1 3/4 headers
12.23 at 112.99 Best MPH 113.97
Posts: 776 | From: woodland | Registered: Dec 2000
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1SLOWLX
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Does it have to be streetable? How about this 347 11.1 TEA heads Holley intake And a 100 shot of nos shot put you in the mid 10's easy
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Posts: 5231 | From: bay area | Registered: Nov 2001
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92coupe
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Member # 1957
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quote: Originally posted by st5150: On the AFR side, 13's = that guy with the AOD and E cam making 250 rwhp, 12's = your combo 11's = TheBrain's FTI185's + nitrous., 10's = Non existant, 9's = non existant, 8's = non existant, 7's = non existant, 6's = stop dreaming.
On the TFS side, we have 10's = turbo302's stock TW's, TurboBen with high ports, KevenL with high ports, 9's = KevenL's notch with ported high ports, 8's = Norman?( I think he got 8's off with the high ports), Herman with TFS R's, and god knows how many non EFI SBF's.
oh see you mis-understood me, i simply said 185cc heads, NEVER AFR. i am a firm believer in SCREW AFR!!! i was talkin some nicely worked TFS TW's stage 2 race prepped. like the ones for sale. they have a high velocity which makes them good for NA, also flow 327cfm @ .700 lift. where the highports flow what 296cfm @ .800 lift. now im not sure if that is right, but i think the highports flow soemthing liek that. but yea AFR are nothing but a paper weight.
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Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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AaronC
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quote: Originally posted by 92coupe: oh see you mis-understood me, i simply said 185cc heads, NEVER AFR. i am a firm believer in SCREW AFR!!! i was talkin some nicely worked TFS TW's stage 2 race prepped. like the ones for sale. they have a high velocity which makes them good for NA, also flow 327cfm @ .700 lift. where the highports flow what 296cfm @ .800 lift. now im not sure if that is right, but i think the highports flow soemthing liek that. but yea AFR are nothing but a paper weight.
Bwahahaha, LMAO!
-------------------- 1991 GT Convertible: Stock 157k mile shortblock, HiTech cam, AFR 165 heads, Edelbrock RPM intake, 1 3/4 headers
12.23 at 112.99 Best MPH 113.97
Posts: 776 | From: woodland | Registered: Dec 2000
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Stimson
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Member # 51
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92coupe, that was some of the funniest stuff I've read in the tech forum
True, the TW's ported will probably do better than the high ports on a 302 NA street car.
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Luke87GT
Lay'n more stripes than Caltrans
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IMHO if you want consistent 10's, any lick of driveability, and want to stay 302 based, it will require a power adder.
If I were building this car it would have the following...
- stock shortblock - afr 165's or tfs TW - any aftermarket intake of your choice (I'd probably match gasket match it to the heads) - A TFS #1 cam or close to it - S-trim - 3.73, 3.90 or 4.10 gears - slicks - + all basic bolt ons (injectors, TB, MAF, 1 3/4inch headers, 2.5inch exhaust, etc, etc, etc)
This combo in a reasonable weight fox should run very high 10's assuming a decent driver, a driveline that can handle it, and a good tune.
Personally, I'd prefer to do it naturally aspirated with cubes... Something along the lines of a AFR 205 headed EFI 392 or 408 with some compression... Luke
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Posts: 7802 | From: San Mateo | Registered: Jul 2000
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92coupe
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Member # 1957
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quote: Originally posted by st5150: 92coupe, that was some of the funniest stuff I've read in the tech forum
True, the TW's ported will probably do better than the high ports on a 302 NA street car.
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Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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92coupe
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Member # 1957
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quote: Originally posted by st5150: 92coupe, that was some of the funniest stuff I've read in the tech forum
True, the TW's ported will probably do better than the high ports on a 302 NA street car.
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Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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92coupe
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Member # 1957
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quote: Originally posted by st5150: 92coupe, that was some of the funniest stuff I've read in the tech forum
True, the TW's ported will probably do better than the high ports on a 302 NA street car.
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Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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92coupe
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Member # 1957
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quote: Originally posted by st5150: 92coupe, that was some of the funniest stuff I've read in the tech forum
True, the TW's ported will probably do better than the high ports on a 302 NA street car.
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Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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