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Most of you guys that dislike cops wouldn't survive 1 month with an FTO. You would either be fired,quit or end up with a medical discharge.

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I would not survive because I would take my oath to uphold the constitution pretty seriously.

I trained with APD in New Mexico for 8 weeks, spent 5 weeks in the field. I understand first hand what "good" cops do.

I left that industry though to pursue higher paying careers and because of this shit I saw them do.

You can talk all you wan't but PO's are trained now a days to think of ALL citizens as enemy combatants.

You post articles about 1 officers dying in the line of duty like its some kind of justification of burning the constitution and shitting on the flag of this country. The PD's across the nation have been out of control for sometime now and with social media and cell cameras at least its coming to light. Also if they wanted to complain about a real dangerous job they could go be a crab fisherman.

The largest gang in america is the gang in blue and the "good" cops will do all they can.

For every 1 link to an officer dying in the line of duty (not many by criminal mind you, most are from car accidents from them not paying attention) I can post 50 that show police overstepping their oath to the constitution.

The war on drugs has ruined this country and probably for good. If I, as a private citizen, did any numbers of things the police have done in "self defense" and "fearing for my life" I would be in jail a million times over.

Police need to be held to a higher standard in this country as we are supposed to put trust in them.

Killing more citizens in the first half of this year then every modern western civilized country has in 50 years combined is a bit of a problem.

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Most of you guys that dislike cops wouldn't survive 1 month with an FTO. You would either be fired,quit or end up with a medical discharge.

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I would not survive because I would take my oath to uphold the constitution pretty seriously.

I trained with APD in New Mexico for 8 weeks, spent 5 weeks in the field. I understand first hand what "good" cops do.

I left that industry though to pursue higher paying careers and because of this shit I saw them do.

You can talk all you wan't but PO's are trained now a days to think of ALL citizens as enemy combatants.

You post articles about 1 officers dying in the line of duty like its some kind of justification of burning the constitution and shitting on the flag of this country. The PD's across the nation have been out of control for sometime now and with social media and cell cameras at least its coming to light. Also if they wanted to complain about a real dangerous job they could go be a crab fisherman.

The largest gang in america is the gang in blue and the "good" cops will do all they can.

For every 1 link to an officer dying in the line of duty (not many by criminal mind you, most are from car accidents from them not paying attention) I can post 50 that show police overstepping their oath to the constitution.

The war on drugs has ruined this country and probably for good. If I, as a private citizen, did any numbers of things the police have done in "self defense" and "fearing for my life" I would be in jail a million times over.

Police need to be held to a higher standard in this country as we are supposed to put trust in them.

Killing more citizens in the first half of this year then every modern western civilized country has in 50 years combined is a bit of a problem.

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Enemy combatants?! Wow.

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Well heres what a city that hates cops and refuses to allow its constituants to protect themselves can turn into.

http://heyjackass.com/

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Originally posted by JohnCM:
Bunch of pussies trying to be the next youtube star
just comply if a cop asks you to do something

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Bunch of pussies trying to be the next youtube star
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No its our duty as citizens to resist unlawful orders. Maybe one day LEO's will uphold their oaths. One day. The LEO in that video should be fired and imprisoned for intimidation, brandishing and a lot of other things. If you or I did that we would be. Luckily in some states they are passing laws to protect citizens if they defend themselves from LEO's on their private property.

People need to know their constitutional rights and challenge any officer who tries to take them away via intimidation.

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So...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cDy3tUy4Io

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So...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cDy3tUy4Io

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Like the guy who was filming wasn't trying to start some shit.

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So...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cDy3tUy4Io

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Like the guy who was filming wasn't trying to start some shit.

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You mean being at your house on private property and have some jackhole creeping through your neighborhood and pull a gun on you when you have done nothing wrong, nor has the LEO giving anything to indicate you are being detained?

But without LEO's who would shoot all the dogs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhPkxJ6G_I

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cDy3tUy4Io

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Like the guy who was filming wasn't trying to start some shit.

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You mean being at your house on private property and have some jackhole creeping through your neighborhood and pull a gun on you when you have done nothing wrong, nor has the LEO giving anything to indicate you are being detained?

But without LEO's who would shoot all the dogs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdhPkxJ6G_I

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If outside you're in public view. An believe or not the way he was parked is illegal an could have hot his truck and boat towed if the cop really want to be a dick. And second from the sounds of it him and his whole family have run in's with the law most likely because there jack assess.

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I'll admit that I'm not too savvy with the constitution. Where does it say that an LEO can't pull a weapon in the line of duty?

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The second you do that without provocation, which there was exactly zero of in this video, you are taking the liberty away from another person.

Also in California you have California Penal Code 417 which makes it unlawful for you to draw or exhibit a deadly weapon in a rude, angry, or threatening way in the presence of another person and not in self defense or in defense of someone.

Now in this case cops are NOT above the law. If you or I pulled a firearm like that on someone we would be in jail. There is no latitude on this even if you believe that police are above the law.

This cop failed the constitution test in every way, shape and form and further exacerbated the issue, while simultaneously showing his disdain for the constitution and his oath to it, by calling the guy a crazy "constitutionalist".

And to top it off, this will be another situation that gets swepped under the rugged and another stain on our rights. Why?



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That penal code does not apply to LEO's and it shouldn't. I am not arguing that in this specific case it was necessary to pull his weapon, but I don't believe any constitutional rights were violated.

As far as LEO's being "above the law," that's a slippery slope. If a car flies down the freeway at 100 mph, should not the officer be able to violate the speed limit to track the perp? I believe they should. Should they be able to shoot someone without provocation? Of course not.

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That penal code does not apply to LEO's and it shouldn't. I am not arguing that in this specific case it was necessary to pull his weapon, but I don't believe any constitutional rights were violated.

As far as LEO's being "above the law," that's a slippery slope. If a car flies down the freeway at 100 mph, should not the officer be able to violate the speed limit to track the perp? I believe they should. Should they be able to shoot someone without provocation? Of course not.

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No one is above the law. NO ONE.

And no they should not. All they do is endanger lives (like the cops that just plowed 5 pedestrians and kept driving).

Laws need to apply equally or they are not laws at all, they are objects of subjugation.

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That penal code does not apply to LEO's and it shouldn't. I am not arguing that in this specific case it was necessary to pull his weapon, but I don't believe any constitutional rights were violated.

As far as LEO's being "above the law," that's a slippery slope. If a car flies down the freeway at 100 mph, should not the officer be able to violate the speed limit to track the perp? I believe they should. Should they be able to shoot someone without provocation? Of course not.

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No one is above the law. NO ONE.

And no they should not. All they do is endanger lives (like the cops that just plowed 5 pedestrians and kept driving).

Laws need to apply equally or they are not laws at all, they are objects of subjugation.

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I can tell why you washed out on being a Leo you really think your smarter then everyone in the room.

I would have a shit attitude if I had to deal with ass holes all day every day that told how to do my job because the watch some cop show and youtube videos.

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