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Topic: Don't Use Trick Flow Gaskets!
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Duncan Motors
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anything but the remflex gaskets will need to be constantly re torqued on a almost weekly basis, if not they will leak. buy remflex exaust gaskets.
Posts: 6310 | From: Vallejo | Registered: Sep 2006
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So which gaskets you guys prefer on a N/A stock because I was going to order these trick flow gaskets for my stang, I knew they were fel pro gasket too.
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Saleen 00-768
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go with Felpro 1250s3 with steel core laminate
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Saleen 00-768
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IIRC ford originally used gaskets with steel cores on their lower intakes
...it could have been install error but ive seen this happen to other people before as well with the same gaskets..
[ 2014-10-21, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-768 ]
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'90 GT
'90 California Edition (sold)
'87 Saleen #264 (sold)
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
funny every gasket failed lol, sorry but those are prob felpro performance gaskets in the first place. im saying installer error. they where installed incorrectly lol the water ports are warped because they where over tightened for one. u didn't follow correct installing procedures for sure. if u don't follow the tightening sequence your gaskets will look like that every time. the performance gaskets arent as tough as stock bulgy
crap, an u have to be critically careful installing them.
There is only one way to install a lower intake manifold, and I'm well aware of how that procedure goes. I followed it every time which is many times over the years. Just incase I forgot I have laminated the install instructions for every part I have. Why would this happen only this one time?
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Saying that I installed them wrong is incorrect.
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90 Bronco 5.8 Lifted
05 SRT-4 24PSI E-85 at least 50 million hp
07 Harley VROD NRS Stage 1
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Duncan Motors
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yeah if u cant follow complete directions our have any experience, what saleen said.
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Duncan Motors
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thats the sequence in order but how did u torque them. I start at 5 pounds, then 10, then 15, what ever the rest is, then i go over it again. the middle will always be loose as u go over it a couple times. u can not do this in 2 or 3 steps/ at least 5 rounds of teh touqre has to be done, and has to start of low like 5 at first. other wise, well u found out. an again , those are felpro gaskets. ive installed them hundreds of times. they are finicky. u can say its not installer error if u want. but im past those problems along time ago., i know what the aftermath is, the intake shifted. only a couple things let the intake shift, an it aint felpro or god.
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You see those blue ring in the gaskets there not made to use rtv on them.
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FivePTSlow
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Guess I'm lucky only my water ports got messed up, those other guys have much worse off gaskets. In all my years, I've used the autozone fel pro gaskets with the rubber end pieces. They have never once failed me, even before following the torque down procedure back in the day.
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05 SRT-4 24PSI E-85 at least 50 million hp
07 Harley VROD NRS Stage 1
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sic70stang
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yup installation error. good job man
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by 135.0:
I blame it on Obama
+1 Obama conspiracy ftw
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05 SRT-4 24PSI E-85 at least 50 million hp
07 Harley VROD NRS Stage 1
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by sic70stang:
yup installation error. good job man
Well if it's installation error, then the same thing will happen to the fel pros I just put in because I followed the exact same procedure right?
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07 Harley VROD NRS Stage 1
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quote:
Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by sic70stang:
yup installation error. good job man
Well if it's installation error, then the same thing will happen to the fel pros I just put in because I followed the exact same procedure right?
Then you should pay someone that can do the job the right way
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racsirx
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Better sell the Coupe before it happens again
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9cobra7
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Bad batch of rtv perhaps? How old is it and was is very humid/dry the days of install? Just a thought...
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by sic70stang:
yup installation error. good job man
Well if it's installation error, then the same thing will happen to the fel pros I just put in because I followed the exact same procedure right?
Then you should pay someone that can do the job the right way
I followed the instructions given with the Holley Systemax II intake manifold both times, if they are incorrect, I should probably just put the factory intake back on. The same instructions come with the Trick flow heads, unlikely that both are incorrect.
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90 Bronco 5.8 Lifted
05 SRT-4 24PSI E-85 at least 50 million hp
07 Harley VROD NRS Stage 1
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Experience goes along way.
[ 2014-10-22, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: hurting your feelings ]
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racsirx
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Lol, maybe you should part it put, I think it's the clear sealant you are using, I have never used RTV around the coolant ports, I use High Tack Gasket Sealant
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
Experience goes along way.
Yes it does. I've been working on Fox's since 2003. I've worked on cars/small engines since I was a kid. I rebuilt my first motor(Briggs & Stratton) by myself at 12 years old. My dad is a car guy as well. I rebuilt my first car engine by myself at 20 years old(2.0 sohc dodge) I have personally owned an 1987 GT T-Top, 1988 GT Convertible, 1989 Coupe, 1991 GT, Two 92 Coupes, & my current 93 Coupe. All of which were bought stock, or close it, then built by myself.
I worked at Mustang of Elk Grove for two years, brought on specifically to rebuild oem engines. This shop primarily worked on EFI Fox's. Routinely did gear swaps, transmission swaps, intake manifold swaps, engine rebuilds, and anything else you would want to do to a Fox.
By no means am I a guru, but a lower intake manifold install I can handle. Especially considering it was done on an engine stand before the motor was dropped in the car.
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90 Bronco 5.8 Lifted
05 SRT-4 24PSI E-85 at least 50 million hp
07 Harley VROD NRS Stage 1
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FivePTSlow
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Here's a picture of the engine after I installed the lower intake manifold. The upper was on there just for the photo. The gasket was fine at this point, you can see it's not pushed out.
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2011 GT/CS 5.0 + Boost(Procharger)
90 Bronco 5.8 Lifted
05 SRT-4 24PSI E-85 at least 50 million hp
07 Harley VROD NRS Stage 1
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