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I know it will sell, I just think its crazy if it had a dart block in it making the same power, same shape car and same drivability, it wouldn't bring the same money
I dont think you can get 400rwhp out of any small ci motor na dart block or not with the same drivability. Its gonna have a cam in it at least and that's what a lot of people dont like. Also the dart block is old technology. It shouldnt be worth as much.
what are you talking about.
Im saying i dont think you can build a small na ci motor Dart block or not with 400rwhp and have it be as street friendly as a coyote motor. Which is why people are spending so much money on these swap cars.
Yes you can
Id like to see a 302 na with 400rwhp with street manners like a coyote. Youve got some magic then.
It would have to have better internals and stroked and high compression just like the coyote motor.
Right, you mentioned that people pay so much more coyote swaps. All I was saying is because the technology is that much better. Just about 400rwhp out of a stock coyote with 302 cu in. You cant do that with a windsor and have it be streetable.
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I know it will sell, I just think its crazy if it had a dart block in it making the same power, same shape car and same drivability, it wouldn't bring the same money
I dont think you can get 400rwhp out of any small ci motor na dart block or not with the same drivability. Its gonna have a cam in it at least and that's what a lot of people dont like. Also the dart block is old technology. It shouldnt be worth as much.
what are you talking about.
Im saying i dont think you can build a small na ci motor Dart block or not with 400rwhp and have it be as street friendly as a coyote motor. Which is why people are spending so much money on these swap cars.
Yes you can
Id like to see a 302 na with 400rwhp with street manners like a coyote. Youve got some magic then.
It would have to have better internals and stroked and high compression just like the coyote motor.
Right, you mentioned that people pay so much more coyote swaps. All I was saying is because the technology is that much better. Just about 400rwhp out of a stock coyote with 302 cu in. You cant do that with a windsor and have it be streetable.
Please stop you're digging yourself a hole you can't climb out of
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adower
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Originally posted by racsirx:
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I know it will sell, I just think its crazy if it had a dart block in it making the same power, same shape car and same drivability, it wouldn't bring the same money
I dont think you can get 400rwhp out of any small ci motor na dart block or not with the same drivability. Its gonna have a cam in it at least and that's what a lot of people dont like. Also the dart block is old technology. It shouldnt be worth as much.
what are you talking about.
Im saying i dont think you can build a small na ci motor Dart block or not with 400rwhp and have it be as street friendly as a coyote motor. Which is why people are spending so much money on these swap cars.
Yes you can
Id like to see a 302 na with 400rwhp with street manners like a coyote. Youve got some magic then.
It would have to have better internals and stroked and high compression just like the coyote motor.
Right, you mentioned that people pay so much more coyote swaps. All I was saying is because the technology is that much better. Just about 400rwhp out of a stock coyote with 302 cu in. You cant do that with a windsor and have it be streetable.
Please stop you're digging yourself a hole you can't climb out of
What are you talking about? Prove me wrong then.
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I know it will sell, I just think its crazy if it had a dart block in it making the same power, same shape car and same drivability, it wouldn't bring the same money
I dont think you can get 400rwhp out of any small ci motor na dart block or not with the same drivability. Its gonna have a cam in it at least and that's what a lot of people dont like. Also the dart block is old technology. It shouldnt be worth as much.
lol. I make 430whp on a 354ci 8.5:1 blower cam in the .676 range, 91 piss gas, shortie headers, and 2 1/2 exhaust. With a ole tech 4150 carb. Car runs great. Only problems I have with it. 1. don't have ac. 2. I don't have a cage cert. 3. I don't have ac. As you can see. My main problem, is no ac.
I'm sure with the full length headers & 3" exhaust it would put down another 25whp. But I haven't got it back to the dyno.
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racsirx
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I know it will sell, I just think its crazy if it had a dart block in it making the same power, same shape car and same drivability, it wouldn't bring the same money
I dont think you can get 400rwhp out of any small ci motor na dart block or not with the same drivability. Its gonna have a cam in it at least and that's what a lot of people dont like. Also the dart block is old technology. It shouldnt be worth as much.
lol. I make 430whp on a 354ci 8.5:1 blower cam in the .676 range, 91 piss gas, shortie headers, and 2 1/2 exhaust. With a ole tech 4150 carb. Car runs great. Only problems I have with it. 1. don't have ac. 2. I don't have a cage cert. 3. I don't have ac. As you can see. My main problem, is no ac.
I'm sure with the full length headers & 3" exhaust it would put down another 25whp. But I haven't got it back to the dyno.
I wonder what my dart block 331 would have done without boost, it made 566rwhp with 6lbs of boost from a SQ-trim
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i just want a ten second mustang soo bad ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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i just want a ten second mustang soo bad
With 700rwhp that thing can go 9s
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warhorse58gt
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i just want a ten second mustang soo bad
Easy. Mine runs 10.6-7's all day in the heat. With very little whp. With 700. You could go a hell of a lot faster.
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I wonder what my dart block 331 would have done without boost, it made 566rwhp with 6lbs of boost from a SQ-trim
Probably around 377rwhp
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i just want a ten second mustang soo bad
Easy. Mine runs 10.6-7's all day in the heat. With very little whp. With 700. You could go a hell of a lot faster.
What's the set up? Are u selling?
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I wonder what my dart block 331 would have done without boost, it made 566rwhp with 6lbs of boost from a SQ-trim
Probably around 377rwhp
Lol, SQ-trim with stock pulleys added 250+hp.
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Originally posted by RRRCobraSC281:
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I wonder what my dart block 331 would have done without boost, it made 566rwhp with 6lbs of boost from a SQ-trim
Probably around 377rwhp
Lol, SQ-trim with stock pulleys added 250+hp.
I want to swap SQ's with You that one sounds magical!!!
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Originally posted by RRRCobraSC281:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I wonder what my dart block 331 would have done without boost, it made 566rwhp with 6lbs of boost from a SQ-trim
Probably around 377rwhp
Lol, SQ-trim with stock pulleys added 250+hp.
That must be the unicorn of the SQ-TRIM chargers that vortech put out.
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
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Originally posted by adower:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I know it will sell, I just think its crazy if it had a dart block in it making the same power, same shape car and same drivability, it wouldn't bring the same money
I dont think you can get 400rwhp out of any small ci motor na dart block or not with the same drivability. Its gonna have a cam in it at least and that's what a lot of people dont like. Also the dart block is old technology. It shouldnt be worth as much.
what are you talking about.
Im saying i dont think you can build a small na ci motor Dart block or not with 400rwhp and have it be as street friendly as a coyote motor. Which is why people are spending so much money on these swap cars.
Yes you can
Id like to see a 302 na with 400rwhp with street manners like a coyote. Youve got some magic then.
It would have to have better internals and stroked and high compression just like the coyote motor.
Right, you mentioned that people pay so much more coyote swaps. All I was saying is because the technology is that much better. Just about 400rwhp out of a stock coyote with 302 cu in. You cant do that with a windsor and have it be streetable.
streetable or smog legal good luck and i am sure mpg would be considerably less.
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by S4OSHUS:
i just want a ten second mustang soo bad
Easy. Mine runs 10.6-7's all day in the heat. With very little whp. With 700. You could go a hell of a lot faster.
What's the set up? Are u selling?
Not for sale. Had the car 20 years. It's a 354ci 8.5:1 comp, Custom blower cam shaft, super Vic intake, 850cfm carb and some antique Canfield heads. Also had shortie headers & 2 1/2 exhaust. Anyone could copy it, and make the same numbers.
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