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quote: Originally posted by *EPIK*: Just curious on everyones opinion of what they consider to be the perfect useable power level in a street driven Fox Body with street tires? Obviously a car can have too much power to be fun & useable on the street.
Anyhow, I'm thinking 450-500rwhp would be the perfect power level in a street driven Fox.
What's your opinion?
400-500 NA RWHP.
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quote: Originally posted by TEXAS: quote: Originally posted by *EPIK*: Just curious on everyones opinion of what they consider to be the perfect useable power level in a street driven Fox Body with street tires? Obviously a car can have too much power to be fun & useable on the street.
Anyhow, I'm thinking 450-500rwhp would be the perfect power level in a street driven Fox.
What's your opinion?
400-500 NA RWHP.
Yeah that's nice too, but 500 NA, would require a pretty nasty cam & I think drivability would suffer a bit.
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quote: Originally posted by East Bay 50: quote: Originally posted by *EPIK*: quote: Originally posted by NEIGHT: 500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.
Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL.
Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?
Neights car is lucky to make 200rwhp...
Lol easy win
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I think 430rwhp and you'll be plenty happy in that light coupe of yours. remember after that your Probly going to have to upgrade other parts to hold up to the power levels you want ,Change one thing and it snowballs to a bunch of things that also has to be changed as well. Just my .02
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Lol I no longer rock stock mufflers or the stock block....
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quote: Originally posted by NEIGHT: Lol I no longer rock stock mufflers or the stock block....
Did you put a 2jz supra motor in it? Nate's car =SLOW
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quote: Originally posted by 50Reasons: I think 430rwhp and you'll be plenty happy in that light coupe of yours. remember after that your Probly going to have to upgrade other parts to hold up to the power levels you want ,Change one thing and it snowballs to a bunch of things that also has to be changed as well. Just my .02
Thanks Daniel. I wasn't talking about my coupe though, just curious on what is "enough power" To other people around here.
I already know I would be happy with 400rw in that light ass coupe lol.
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quote: Originally posted by East Bay 50: quote: Originally posted by NEIGHT: Lol I no longer rock stock mufflers or the stock block....
Did you put a 2jz supra motor in it? Nate's car =SLOW
No lol but those 2JZ's ain't no joke!
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Neight your block is a stock block foo it will still break if u play with fire for too long
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500-600rwhp is perfect for a street car IMO
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To pretty much sum up the answer that Dustin is looking for, 400rw is already breaking tires loose in 1-3 gears. With stock suspension or mild setups. These people saying anywhere near 700?? Well that would require drag radials to be on your car all the time and tires get expensive! I wanna drive my car to the bay if I want and Reno or whatever. So street tires it is. I'm looking to stay between 450-500rw on my new setup and with the IRS and auto it should still hook up "OK" on street tires.
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750-1000rw is just a garage/trailer queen. Can't see putting that much money in a street car and having no use for it. May as well make it a drag car at that point. My cobra put 750rw down and street tires could not hold any gear but 6th!
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quote: Originally posted by NEIGHT: quote: Originally posted by East Bay 50: quote: Originally posted by NEIGHT: Lol I no longer rock stock mufflers or the stock block....
Did you put a 2jz supra motor in it? Nate's car =SLOW
No lol but those 2JZ's ain't no joke!
In a foxbody
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quote: Originally posted by NEIGHT: quote: Originally posted by *EPIK*: quote: Originally posted by East Bay 50: quote: Originally posted by *EPIK*: quote: Originally posted by NEIGHT: 500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.
Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL. Last i knew of neights car it pushed like 178 or 186hp and he has paperwork to prove it, aint that right neight.
Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?
Neights car is lucky to make 200rwhp...
Haha! I'm not familiar with his setup?
LOL Neither is CAFords.
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My 93 cobra is somewhere between 620-640rwhp with the 2.3 whipple, 1st, 2dn and 3rd gear are useless at WOT, I'm working on some suspension and better tires but most likely I'm gonna have to pulley it down to enjoy the car more, I'm not planning on racing that often anyways.
I would say the power level has a lot to do with the set up, when I had my new edge 'stang it was a blast at 700rwhp but I had a centri blower, then moved to turbo at 600rwhp it felt faster and more fun to drive and didn't want more power.
For a fox I'd say 500-530rwhp with a centri would be perfect for the street and 450rwhp turbo.
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800-900 WHP would be perfect. If you can afford to build a reliable car with that much HP you can afford a narrow rear housing, mini or full tubs and the biggest soft tires you can find. The OP was about "fun and useable", not a daily driver. Both of those things are possible with the right setup.
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quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: 800-900 WHP would be perfect. If you can afford to build a reliable car with that much HP you can afford a narrow rear housing, mini or full tubs and the biggest soft tires you can find. The OP was about "fun and useable", not a daily driver. Both of those things are possible with the right setup.
IMO its hard to really justify the need to put 900hp to the wheels on the street
if anything its on the questionable side of useable, lol [ 2014-01-15, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]
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quote: Originally posted by John91coupe: 800-900 WHP would be perfect. If you can afford to build a reliable car with that much HP you can afford a narrow rear housing, mini or full tubs and the biggest soft tires you can find. The OP was about "fun and useable", not a daily driver. Both of those things are possible with the right setup.
You are correct, I wasn't talking about daily driver mustangs, or asking people what was the best setup for MY car, but the original post was asking "what is your opinion of the perfect amount of power for a heavily street driven fox"...
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You know Dustin, this an interesting post and you are getting good feedback. I was thinking about that same thing the last time I drove my Fox. I have yet to get to a Dyno, but damn mine runs wicked fast! I just fry the tires every time I drive it and it's got more than enough power to scare anybody that rides in it. I tell you this because I think I have found the "Happy Spot" as far a Fox power and I find that I am satisfied with my current power level and for the first time in my life, I am not searching for more.
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quote: Originally posted by *EPIK*: Even my 300rwhp/320rwtq HCI setup would easily spin & break lose the 295's in 1st & 2nd gear, now I am building a mild, blown 331 stroker, & I'm expecting to make about 450rwhp with ease. These numbers are nothing compared to other peoples setups, but I do know that when you are making 800rwhp or whatever, you can't stab it in any gear & expect to get traction. Therefore, all you can do is putt your car around on the street. Doesn't sound very fun to me.
300 sounds good to me but then again I need my license for work. [ 2014-01-15, 11:59 PM: Message edited by: SantaClara_Cobra ]
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quote: Originally posted by BOSS 32V: My 93 cobra is somewhere between 620-640rwhp with the 2.3 whipple, 1st, 2dn and 3rd gear are useless at WOT, I'm working on some suspension and better tires but most likely I'm gonna have to pulley it down to enjoy the car more, I'm not planning on racing that often anyways.
I would say the power level has a lot to do with the set up, when I had my new edge 'stang it was a blast at 700rwhp but I had a centri blower, then moved to turbo at 600rwhp it felt faster and more fun to drive and didn't want more power.
For a fox I'd say 500-530rwhp with a centri would be perfect for the street and 450rwhp turbo.
Car sounds badass man!
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quote: Originally posted by SWITCH 625.0: You know Dustin, this an interesting post and you are getting good feedback. I was thinking about that same thing the last time I drove my Fox. I have yet to get to a Dyno, but damn mine runs wicked fast! I just fry the tires every time I drive it and it's got more than enough power to scare anybody that rides in it. I tell you this because I think I have found the "Happy Spot" as far a Fox power and I find that I am satisfied with my current power level and for the first time in my life, I am not searching for more.
What's up Dennis! You always have something nice, & always have a few cool tricks up your sleeve. I haven't talked to you in a while, & not sure what stang this is that you speak of, but I know whatever it is, it's done up right & is probably super clean to boot LOL... What's the setup?
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450-500rw just on the blower would be nice. Add a lil 50 shot of n20 on top and that would just be the sprinkles on the cupcake. Basically at 600 horse to the tires you're goin to be untouable on the street. Get some M/T DR's and ur good to go on your 17" anni's.
U want to keep it gangster, then ride around with 14-15psi in the tires all day long
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quote: Originally posted by 166 Merlo: 450-500rw just on the blower would be nice. Add a lil 50 shot of n20 on top and that would just be the sprinkles on the cupcake. Basically at 600 horse to the tires you're goin to be untouable on the street. Get some M/T DR's and ur good to go on your 17" anni's.
U want to keep it gangster, then ride around with 14-15psi in the tires all day long
I'm thinking I will be between 425-450rw with the 331 & blower. I don't want anymore than that. I'm on 18's now, & when money permits, I will be looking into get some DR's, most likely crappy Nitto's because they last the longest on the street [ 2014-01-16, 02:01 AM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]
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I feel like 700 is a nice number. The cam in my car is very mild, with 2 2 more lbs ide be at 700 and I think that'd be perfect. I also think every car is different. In a fox... im going with 500.
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