What is your idea of the perfect power level in a street driven Fox body?

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

Just curious on everyones opinion of what they consider to be the perfect useable power level in a street driven Fox Body with street tires? Obviously a car can have too much power to be fun & useable on the street.

Anyhow, I'm thinking 450-500rwhp would be the perfect power level in a street driven Fox.

What's your opinion?

[ 2014-01-15, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

Even my 300rwhp/320rwtq HCI setup would easily spin & break lose the 295's in 1st & 2nd gear, now I am building a mild, blown 331 stroker, & I'm expecting to make about 450rwhp with ease. These numbers are nothing compared to other peoples setups, but I do know that when you are making 800rwhp or whatever, you can't stab it in any gear & expect to get traction. Therefore, all you can do is putt your car around on the street. Doesn't sound very fun to me.

[ 2014-01-15, 01:28 PM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too. [patriot]

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.

Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL.

Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

Depending on how the car is setup I'd say anywhere between 700-1,000RW would be perfect for the street.

Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :

The way I look at it is my '03 Cobra was what 390/390 from the factory allegedly lol so basically 300/300 and some change to the wheels. Honestly that felt fine to me so in a fox I don't see me thinking anything over 400 would be needed for DD duty. Of course there is quite a difference between need and want.

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by Greasy:
Depending on how the car is setup I'd say anywhere between 700-1,000RW would be perfect for the street.

That doesn't sound like a street car IMO. Ask anyone of the folks on here that are making those power levels if they can apply their throttle to the floor on an open hwy without breaking the tires lose in any gear. I bet they will say no. & it's not like most drive around on full slicks, & even if they did, they aren't doing burnouts to make the tires sticky before they do a full throttle run either LOL.

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by fstryde3:
The way I look at it is my '03 Cobra was what 390/390 from the factory allegedly lol so basically 300/300 and some change to the wheels. Honestly that felt fine to me so in a fox I don't see me thinking anything over 400 would be needed for DD duty. Of course there is quite a difference between need and want.

I feel ya bro. I didn't mean in a DD, but in a street driven pleasure car. 400-500rwhp would be perfect IMO.

Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :

I think 450 to the wheels is good that's what I have in mind if I pick up a project fox 331 blown smog legal somewhat!

And if keeping it smog legal doesn't work I'll just hit up neight for the hook up LOL!

[ 2014-01-15, 01:41 PM: Message edited by: 97cobra209 ]

Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.
Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL.

Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?

Neights car is lucky to make 200rwhp...

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.
Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL.

Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?
Neights car is lucky to make 200rwhp...

Haha! I'm not familiar with his setup?

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by Greasy:
Depending on how the car is setup I'd say anywhere between 700-1,000RW would be perfect for the street.
That doesn't sound like a street car IMO. Ask anyone of the folks on here that are making those power levels if they can apply their throttle to the floor on an open hwy without breaking the tires lose in any gear. I bet they will say no. & it's not like most drive around on full slicks, & even if they did, they aren't doing burnouts to make the tires sticky before they do a full throttle run either LOL.

3rd gear should hook with some street slicks, at least the cars I've built in the past have. Depends on the power train, IMO modular power is the only way to go, easy power and great driveability without even cracking a valve cover. Look at the new GT's, slap a blower on them and with low boost they are making easy 600 to the tires.

Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :

400-500, anything else is overkill for daily use. 500 plus for garage queens, streakmatts got the right amount for both street and track.

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.
Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL.

Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?
Neights car is lucky to make 200rwhp...
Haha! I'm not familiar with his setup?

LOL Neither is CAFords. [Wink]

Posted by ed650 (Member # 9897) on :

As much as you want as long as u don't have a cam that lopes like crazy = youll get annoyed of it soon + plus get more attention from cops.

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by Greasy:
Depending on how the car is setup I'd say anywhere between 700-1,000RW would be perfect for the street.
That doesn't sound like a street car IMO. Ask anyone of the folks on here that are making those power levels if they can apply their throttle to the floor on an open hwy without breaking the tires lose in any gear. I bet they will say no. & it's not like most drive around on full slicks, & even if they did, they aren't doing burnouts to make the tires sticky before they do a full throttle run either LOL.
3rd gear should hook with some street slicks, at least the cars I've built in the past have. Depends on the power train, IMO modular power is the only way to go, easy power and great driveability without even cracking a valve cover. Look at the new GT's, slap a blower on them and with low boost they are making easy 600 to the tires.

I wouldn't say modular power is the only way to go, but it's definitely a badass swap. Most of us can't afford a swap like that, so we have to go the budget way with a blown & stroked pushrod motor. One can easily build a mild daily drivable stroker with low boost & crank out over 400rw, even with an alphabet cam, & great drivability & reliability at that....

I've never had a car with over 420 rw, & never had a mustang with over 320 rw, so I can't personally say I have 1st hand experience of feeling tires breaking loose in all gears, but I do know my buddy that is making 1000+ rw says he can't apply the power in any gear on the street with regular tires, which is to be expected at those power levels. The car has a fully built rear suspension too.

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by ed650:
As much as you want as long as u don't have a cam that lopes like crazy = youll get annoyed of it soon + plus get more attention from cops.

I will be the 1st to admit a Lopey cammed DD loses it's luster pretty quick! I daily drive a car with a 111 LSA. Lol

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

you know my opinion already but I've come to the conclusion 650-750RW on a car that gets driven a lot....like evey weekend...5000 miles plus a year...for a normal car like a mustang, camaro, vette..etc..

when big dollar cars, like GTR's and Lambos, I'm sure the number is higher...

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by Greasy:
Depending on how the car is setup I'd say anywhere between 700-1,000RW would be perfect for the street.
That doesn't sound like a street car IMO. Ask anyone of the folks on here that are making those power levels if they can apply their throttle to the floor on an open hwy without breaking the tires lose in any gear. I bet they will say no. & it's not like most drive around on full slicks, & even if they did, they aren't doing burnouts to make the tires sticky before they do a full throttle run either LOL.
3rd gear should hook with some street slicks, at least the cars I've built in the past have. Depends on the power train, IMO modular power is the only way to go, easy power and great driveability without even cracking a valve cover. Look at the new GT's, slap a blower on them and with low boost they are making easy 600 to the tires.

been in a car with 1000RW and even with a 275/60/15 Hoosier DR...it was fighting to keep the tires held even in 3rd...the same car with 600RW used to 60' consistent 1.40s....this was November when it started to get cold though...

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

450-500 is still manageable with street tires as long as you don't floor it in 1st and 2nd. My dd was a touch over 400 and that was fun. Especially going 50-60 punching it and breaking loose haha.

[ 2014-01-15, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Pure Stang ]

Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :

my Roush 4.6 breaks lose 295/35r18 KDWs through 2nd and chirps 3rd with 4.10s. I think that's just fine.

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

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Originally posted by Greasy:
Depending on how the car is setup I'd say anywhere between 700-1,000RW would be perfect for the street.

yea for some people but for the majority that will get your ass in a lot of trouble or dead.

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

400 to the tires is a great power level for a fox body that could be considered mild easy daily driver that's plenty fun, retain your stock block.

Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :

I 450 to 500 is a good with me ....i like having power in a fox vert thats not that nice....you should see the faces when shes pullin

Posted by TEXAS (Member # 11875) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.
Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL.

Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?
Neights car is lucky to make 200rwhp...
Haha! I'm not familiar with his setup?
LOL Neither is CAFordhttp://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL6E57A4C2401A4FF2&feature=plpp&v=KmkVWuP_sO0s.

Long tubes and stock mufflers FTW, winning!

[ 2014-01-15, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: TEXAS ]

Posted by TEXAS (Member # 11875) on :

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:
Just curious on everyones opinion of what they consider to be the perfect useable power level in a street driven Fox Body with street tires? Obviously a car can have too much power to be fun & useable on the street.

Anyhow, I'm thinking 450-500rwhp would be the perfect power level in a street driven Fox.

What's your opinion?

400-500 NA RWHP.

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by TEXAS:

quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
Just curious on everyones opinion of what they consider to be the perfect useable power level in a street driven Fox Body with street tires? Obviously a car can have too much power to be fun & useable on the street.

Anyhow, I'm thinking 450-500rwhp would be the perfect power level in a street driven Fox.

What's your opinion?
400-500 NA RWHP.

Yeah that's nice too, but 500 NA, would require a pretty nasty cam & I think drivability would suffer a bit.

Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.
Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL.

Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?
Neights car is lucky to make 200rwhp...

Lol easy win

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

I think 430rwhp and you'll be plenty happy in that light coupe of yours. remember after that your Probly going to have to upgrade other parts to hold up to the power levels you want ,Change one thing and it snowballs to a bunch of things that also has to be changed as well. Just my .02

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

Lol I no longer rock stock mufflers or the stock block.... [Cool]

Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Lol I no longer rock stock mufflers or the stock block....

Did you put a 2jz supra motor in it? [Big Grin]

Nate's car =SLOW

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
I think 430rwhp and you'll be plenty happy in that light coupe of yours. remember after that your Probly going to have to upgrade other parts to hold up to the power levels you want ,Change one thing and it snowballs to a bunch of things that also has to be changed as well. Just my .02

Thanks Daniel. I wasn't talking about my coupe though, just curious on what is "enough power"
To other people around here.

I already know I would be happy with 400rw in that light ass coupe lol.

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Lol I no longer rock stock mufflers or the stock block....
Did you put a 2jz supra motor in it? Nate's car =SLOW

No lol but those 2JZ's ain't no joke!

Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :

Neight your block is a stock block foo it will still break if u play with fire for too long

Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :

500-600rwhp is perfect for a street car IMO

Posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R (Member # 5400) on :

To pretty much sum up the answer that Dustin is looking for, 400rw is already breaking tires loose in 1-3 gears. With stock suspension or mild setups. These people saying anywhere near 700?? Well that would require drag radials to be on your car all the time and tires get expensive! I wanna drive my car to the bay if I want and Reno or whatever. So street tires it is. I'm looking to stay between 450-500rw on my new setup and with the IRS and auto it should still hook up "OK" on street tires.

Posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R (Member # 5400) on :

750-1000rw is just a garage/trailer queen. Can't see putting that much money in a street car and having no use for it. May as well make it a drag car at that point. My cobra put 750rw down and street tires could not hold any gear but 6th!

Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Lol I no longer rock stock mufflers or the stock block....
Did you put a 2jz supra motor in it? Nate's car =SLOW
No lol but those 2JZ's ain't no joke!

In a foxbody [Wink]

Posted by Stangn5oh (Member # 10875) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.
Yup. That's about where I wanna max out one day, & my setup i'm building now could easily achieve it, but I'm not trying to do that on a stock block! That's why I wanna choke mine up at around 450rwhp so that I can keep my block together for a while LOL.
Last i knew of neights car it pushed like 178 or 186hp and he has paperwork to prove it, aint that right neight.

Is your car making 500rwhp right now Neight?
Neights car is lucky to make 200rwhp...
Haha! I'm not familiar with his setup?
LOL Neither is CAFords.

Posted by BOSS 32V (Member # 8125) on :

My 93 cobra is somewhere between 620-640rwhp with the 2.3 whipple, 1st, 2dn and 3rd gear are useless at WOT, I'm working on some suspension and better tires but most likely I'm gonna have to pulley it down to enjoy the car more, I'm not planning on racing that often anyways.

I would say the power level has a lot to do with the set up, when I had my new edge 'stang it was a blast at 700rwhp but I had a centri blower, then moved to turbo at 600rwhp it felt faster and more fun to drive and didn't want more power.

For a fox I'd say 500-530rwhp with a centri would be perfect for the street and 450rwhp turbo.

Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :

800-900 WHP would be perfect. If you can afford to build a reliable car with that much HP you can afford a narrow rear housing, mini or full tubs and the biggest soft tires you can find. The OP was about "fun and useable", not a daily driver. Both of those things are possible with the right setup.

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
800-900 WHP would be perfect. If you can afford to build a reliable car with that much HP you can afford a narrow rear housing, mini or full tubs and the biggest soft tires you can find. The OP was about "fun and useable", not a daily driver. Both of those things are possible with the right setup.

IMO its hard to really justify the need to put 900hp to the wheels on the street

if anything its on the questionable side of useable, lol

[ 2014-01-15, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
800-900 WHP would be perfect. If you can afford to build a reliable car with that much HP you can afford a narrow rear housing, mini or full tubs and the biggest soft tires you can find. The OP was about "fun and useable", not a daily driver. Both of those things are possible with the right setup.

You are correct, I wasn't talking about daily driver mustangs, or asking people what was the best setup for MY car, but the original post was asking "what is your opinion of the perfect amount of power for a heavily street driven fox"...

Posted by SWITCH 625.0 (Member # 9322) on :

You know Dustin, this an interesting post and you are getting good feedback. I was thinking about that same thing the last time I drove my Fox. I have yet to get to a Dyno, but damn mine runs wicked fast! I just fry the tires every time I drive it and it's got more than enough power to scare anybody that rides in it. I tell you this because I think I have found the "Happy Spot" as far a Fox power and I find that I am satisfied with my current power level and for the first time in my life, I am not searching for more.

Posted by SantaClara_Cobra (Member # 9488) on :

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:
Even my 300rwhp/320rwtq HCI setup would easily spin & break lose the 295's in 1st & 2nd gear, now I am building a mild, blown 331 stroker, & I'm expecting to make about 450rwhp with ease. These numbers are nothing compared to other peoples setups, but I do know that when you are making 800rwhp or whatever, you can't stab it in any gear & expect to get traction. Therefore, all you can do is putt your car around on the street. Doesn't sound very fun to me.

300 sounds good to me but then again I need my license for work.

[ 2014-01-15, 11:59 PM: Message edited by: SantaClara_Cobra ]

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by BOSS 32V:
My 93 cobra is somewhere between 620-640rwhp with the 2.3 whipple, 1st, 2dn and 3rd gear are useless at WOT, I'm working on some suspension and better tires but most likely I'm gonna have to pulley it down to enjoy the car more, I'm not planning on racing that often anyways.

I would say the power level has a lot to do with the set up, when I had my new edge 'stang it was a blast at 700rwhp but I had a centri blower, then moved to turbo at 600rwhp it felt faster and more fun to drive and didn't want more power.

For a fox I'd say 500-530rwhp with a centri would be perfect for the street and 450rwhp turbo.

Car sounds badass man!

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by SWITCH 625.0:
You know Dustin, this an interesting post and you are getting good feedback. I was thinking about that same thing the last time I drove my Fox. I have yet to get to a Dyno, but damn mine runs wicked fast! I just fry the tires every time I drive it and it's got more than enough power to scare anybody that rides in it. I tell you this because I think I have found the "Happy Spot" as far a Fox power and I find that I am satisfied with my current power level and for the first time in my life, I am not searching for more.

What's up Dennis! You always have something nice, & always have a few cool tricks up your sleeve. I haven't talked to you in a while, & not sure what stang this is that you speak of, but I know whatever it is, it's done up right & is probably super clean to boot LOL... What's the setup?

Posted by 166 Merlo (Member # 1549) on :

450-500rw just on the blower would be nice. Add a lil 50 shot of n20 on top and that would just be the sprinkles on the cupcake. Basically at 600 horse to the tires you're goin to be untouable on the street. Get some M/T DR's and ur good to go on your 17" anni's.

U want to keep it gangster, then ride around with 14-15psi in the tires all day long

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by 166 Merlo:
450-500rw just on the blower would be nice. Add a lil 50 shot of n20 on top and that would just be the sprinkles on the cupcake. Basically at 600 horse to the tires you're goin to be untouable on the street. Get some M/T DR's and ur good to go on your 17" anni's.

U want to keep it gangster, then ride around with 14-15psi in the tires all day long

I'm thinking I will be between 425-450rw with the 331 & blower. I don't want anymore than that. I'm on 18's now, & when money permits, I will be looking into get some DR's, most likely crappy Nitto's because they last the longest on the street

[ 2014-01-16, 02:01 AM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]

Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :

I feel like 700 is a nice number. The cam in my car is very mild, with 2 2 more lbs ide be at 700 and I think that'd be perfect. I also think every car is different. In a fox... im going with 500.

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
To pretty much sum up the answer that Dustin is looking for, 400rw is already breaking tires loose in 1-3 gears. With stock suspension or mild setups. These people saying anywhere near 700?? Well that would require drag radials to be on your car all the time and tires get expensive! I wanna drive my car to the bay if I want and Reno or whatever. So street tires it is. I'm looking to stay between 450-500rw on my new setup and with the IRS and auto it should still hook up "OK" on street tires.

torque converters help a lot when putting down power...you'll be surprised how much that 450-500rw will surprise you

[ 2014-01-16, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: CornOil_&_Boost ]

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
My cobra put 750rw down and street tires could not hold any gear but 6th!

uuuuuuuuuuhhhhh...Really?

Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :

Street. Tire.

Explain this.

Lol

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
My cobra put 750rw down and street tires could not hold any gear but 6th!
uuuuuuuuuuhhhhh...Really?

Not hatin but unless you got a vid you were probably smokin the clutch..Uncles cobra makes 680rw and plants hard in 3rd 9/10 times on Michelin 315s...never seen anycar under 800rw spin 5th but on BALD ass tires or in the rain [Wink]

Jason ask Matt how's his Fox with rolls and tire spin?

[ 2014-01-16, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by SIC9250:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
My cobra put 750rw down and street tires could not hold any gear but 6th!
uuuuuuuuuuhhhhh...Really?
Not hatin but unless you got a vid you were probably smokin the clutch..Uncles cobra makes 680rw and plants hard in 3rd 9/10 times on Michelin 315s...never seen anycar under 800rw spin 5th but on BALD ass tires or in the rain Jason ask Matt how's his Fox with rolls and tire spin?

matt's car is ridiculous on radials but on good drag radials he can get steam going in 3rd...if it gets the tires hot enough...he can get 2nd gear moving.....only think I'm asking is when did Casey finish the tune in his car?...last he told us, it was having electrical issues and it got sold untuned...so 750RW..maybe a good estimate?

Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :

I think 400-450rwhp would good without being on drag radials and be able to drive it in the rain, that's what I am building right now.

Posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R (Member # 5400) on :

To answer Jason's question. No the tune was not done on my car when I had it because of spark blowout. A simple re gap on the plugs fixed that but the car was final tuned at RET and Greg got it to 753rwhp. No other changes were needed. Shaun did a good job on it. Was my fault on the plugs. I never took it back to him.

And I do have a video. It's in my phone. I will upload it if u want. Kinda hard to tell but with the 4.10s on street radials it would spin in 5th. It's called instant torque on a roots mount blower. I don't really care to argue. Just saying that I felt the car needed to drive on DR's to get any traction

The video is just of the cluster on the freeway and I punch it at 100mph and the car gets loose all over the freeway. I will ask my brother to send it to me. Not sure if I was in 5th but at 100mph none the less

[ 2014-01-16, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R ]

Posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R (Member # 5400) on :

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Originally posted by SIC9250:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
My cobra put 750rw down and street tires could not hold any gear but 6th!
uuuuuuuuuuhhhhh...Really?
Not hatin but unless you got a vid you were probably smokin the clutch..Uncles cobra makes 680rw and plants hard in 3rd 9/10 times on Michelin 315s...never seen anycar under 800rw spin 5th but on BALD ass tires or in the rain Jason ask Matt how's his Fox with rolls and tire spin?

The IRS and 3.55s are the factor there. I was running a solid axle with road race control arms and 4.10s. And 335 Michelin's that were old but not bald

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

Let's stay on topic fellas... This thread ain't about who's car is better, who's car made X amount of rwhp, starting pissing matches, & it's definitely NOT about my car... I was simply asking YOUR opinion on what YOU think is the perfect amount of power for a street driven Fox body! [patriot]

[ 2014-01-16, 11:32 PM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:
Let's stay on topic fellas... This thread ain't about who's car is better, who's car made X amount of rwhp, starting pissing matches, & it's definitely NOT about my car... I was simply asking YOUR opinion on what YOU think is the perfect amount of power for a street driven Fox body!

Your car will be the definition of an awesome DD for sure...when you get the AC back in it

Posted by red5o (Member # 12651) on :

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
500rwhp. Daily drive that bitch too.

Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :

Personally I would like a high revving 306. 350rwhp. You won't have to worry about breaking parts and it would be a fun street car.

Posted by Wolfie351 (Member # 651) on :

Can't tell you how many times I've been at the gas station filling up my Mustang when someone checks out my car and tells me they've got some ridiculously powered car at home. I look over at their Honda and say, "sounds nice, too bad you can't enjoy it every day"

400rwhp would be just about perfect. My 351W doesn't make that much to the wheels, but it has a high, flat as Montana torque curve that begins almost instantly. Low end torque is what makes a fun street car, you don't have to wait until high rpm to get that press you into the seat kinda feel.

Posted by Bulletsponge (Member # 9529) on :

My fox made just shy of 470 RWHP, drove to work every single day rain or shine. In the rain, unpredictable at best. On the street, 1st, 2nd, 3rd roast away with 275/40/18 KDW2's. 4th and 5th are when you plant.

In my opinion, it was kind of overkill. At 8 PSI, It made right around 400-410, and I loved it.

Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :

So are some of you saying that a Mustang GT500 or Super Snake (850+ flywheel) or Z06 or ZR1 is not a fun and usable street car? Or just that that much HP in a Fox body would not be fun and usable?

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:
So are some of you saying that a Mustang GT500 or Super Snake (850+ flywheel) or Z06 or ZR1 is not a fun and usable street car? Or just that that much HP in a Fox body would not be fun and usable?

it's useable in a fox with the right suspension setup...those multiple 7th street videos have a couple of 500rw+ foxes that seem to hook just fine...

Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
So are some of you saying that a Mustang GT500 or Super Snake (850+ flywheel) or Z06 or ZR1 is not a fun and usable street car? Or just that that much HP in a Fox body would not be fun and usable?
it's useable in a fox with the right suspension setup...those multiple 7th street videos have a couple of 500rw+ foxes that seem to hook just fine...

That's kind of what I'm saying. Good suspension, some soft 325's and good driving. Lot's of fun and very usable. Even with 800 WHP.

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by John91coupe:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:
So are some of you saying that a Mustang GT500 or Super Snake (850+ flywheel) or Z06 or ZR1 is not a fun and usable street car? Or just that that much HP in a Fox body would not be fun and usable?
it's useable in a fox with the right suspension setup...those multiple 7th street videos have a couple of 500rw+ foxes that seem to hook just fine...
That's kind of what I'm saying. Good suspension, some soft 325's and good driving. Lot's of fun and very usable. Even with 800 WHP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNuk_UiE7O4

hmm 780Rw mustang...seems to hook fine at 55/60 mph....after some heat in the tires....

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

Yeah, 800rwhp can be useable in a fox, but personally, I'm not trying to run a full drag suspension like Baseline or whatever & I'm not trying to drive around on tires that burn up after 5k miles...

My rear setup will be simple, & more street oriented. MM Extreme Duty adjustable LCA's, Steeda Boxed stock uppers, new OEM diff bushings (poly cause bind on the street), reinforced Tq boxes, MM full length subframe connectors, & probably a set of good 18" street drag radials for my 18X10's. This would never hold the power of a super high powered fox, but I think it should offer decent traction with a 400-500 rwhp setup.

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:
So are some of you saying that a Mustang GT500 or Super Snake (850+ flywheel) or Z06 or ZR1 is not a fun and usable street car? Or just that that much HP in a Fox body would not be fun and usable?
it's useable in a fox with the right suspension setup...those multiple 7th street videos have a couple of 500rw+ foxes that seem to hook just fine...
That's kind of what I'm saying. Good suspension, some soft 325's and good driving. Lot's of fun and very usable. Even with 800 WHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNuk_UiE7O4

hmm 780Rw mustang...seems to hook fine at 55/60 mph....after some heat in the tires....

Jason, your point is negated... 1st of all, I'm not talking about pulling over & doing burnouts to heat up the tires, I'm talking about a car where you can be rolling around & if you get the sudden urge to stab the throttle in 2nd or 3rd gear & get decent traction.

On top of that, the GT in this video weighs a good 500-700 lbs more than most foxes, & has a MUCH better factory suspension setup & chassis, of course it can lay down more useable HP on the street.

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

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Originally posted by John91coupe:

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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:

quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:
So are some of you saying that a Mustang GT500 or Super Snake (850+ flywheel) or Z06 or ZR1 is not a fun and usable street car? Or just that that much HP in a Fox body would not be fun and usable?
it's useable in a fox with the right suspension setup...those multiple 7th street videos have a couple of 500rw+ foxes that seem to hook just fine...
That's kind of what I'm saying. Good suspension, some soft 325's and good driving. Lot's of fun and very usable. Even with 800 WHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNuk_UiE7O4

hmm 780Rw mustang...seems to hook fine at 55/60 mph....after some heat in the tires....
Jason, your point is negated... 1st of all, I'm not talking about pulling over & doing burnouts to heat up the tires, I'm talking about a car where you can be rolling around & if you get the sudden urge to stab the throttle in 2nd or 3rd gear & get decent traction.

On top of that, the GT in this video weighs a good 500-700 lbs more than most foxes, & has a MUCH better factory suspension setup & chassis, of course it can lay down more useable HP on the street.

so a nice rolling burnout in a Fox will do the trick as well..

"MUCH better factory suspension setup & chassis"

wait so you're telling me you can't modify the suspenion and chassis on a fox?...

come on Dustin...face it...it has been proven time and time again...

"On top of that, the GT in this video weighs a good 500-700 lbs more than most foxes"

a 450Rw-600RW fox is not going to come within a city length of that 780RW GT...seems pretty useable to me...

I'm basing my argument on first person and video documented facts..you're basing yours on opinion....my point will never be negated...

here's 690RW on 18" bald DR's...this same setup walked a 650RW vette btw..

http://youtu.be/chww_1nBojs

40-140mph pass...NO heat in the tires and obviously babying the trans....yes this is me

[ 2014-01-17, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: CornOil_&_Boost ]

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmQCclu0zpQ

1200Rw...less than 2800

oh well..well..the chassis and suspenion have been modded right?...

NO SHIT!!!!

[ 2014-01-17, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: CornOil_&_Boost ]

Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :

Dustin. Build your car. Delete this thread lol

Build what YOU want, and what your budget can afford... simple.

I had a HCI blah blah blah fox and SN95 with what... 320rw?? And on street tires in 2nd it was questionable. Point being, from here on out the least your coupe should have on the rear is a NT555R...

Posted by SWITCH 625.0 (Member # 9322) on :

Hey Dustin, it's my 89 GT that you last saw at a late night meet at the Comcast in Natomas. Cab Red/Silver then, all Cabernet Red now. The engine is a 331 forged H beam Eagle kit,early block, link bar Crower rollers, Ed Curtis cam,185 AFR's,fully ported and matched Edelbrock intake. Get ahold of me and check it out.

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
Dustin. Build your car. Delete this thread lol

Build what YOU want, and what your budget can afford... simple.

I had a HCI blah blah blah fox and SN95 with what... 320rw?? And on street tires in 2nd it was questionable. Point being, from here on out the least your coupe should have on the rear is a NT555R...

If this thread was about Dustin's build...I would say 450 to 500rW for sure...

but I bet he has way more fun than most of us do with his... [Big Grin]

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

5whp & 7wtq. The dyno numbers don't matter to me. Anything that can run mid 9's is about the right speed for a nice driver. But a 8.9x or faster with ac would be the shit. And these days, it's not that hard to do. It only takes a nice size bank roll. [patriot]

Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :

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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
5whp & 7wtq. The dyno numbers don't matter to me. Anything that can run mid 9's is about the right speed for a nice driver. But a 8.9x or faster with ac would be the shit. And these days, it's not that hard to do. It only takes a nice size bank roll.

Haha!!! I agree, I'm definitely not a dyno number type of guy, as long as it feels fast enough to me, then I'm satisfied. But I was pretty much talking about theoretical power figures, not like going to a dyno & putting down 450 rw to say I did it.

My car probably won't even see a dyno for a long time

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