Northern California Ford racer's Message Board Forum Sell & Buy Ford Parts in Northern California Classifieds Mustang Pictures / Videos of Ford Cars in Northern California

Northern California Ford Owners  


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post a Ford message board Reply
read DMs/my profile login | join CAFords | search | faq |
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Northern California Ford Owners     » Automotive   » General Talk   » bad ass notch (Page 2)

 - Email this post to someone!   Page: 1  2  3   
Author Topic: bad ass notch
NEIGHT
¯
Member # 8741

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for NEIGHT  Ford pictures for NEIGHT    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.


Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]

--------------------
-Savage Habits-
1992 Summer Edition
1986 Hatch- catfish killer
1964 Impala hard top

Posts: 18528 | From: EA$T $IDE REDWOOD CITY | Registered: Nov 2008  |  :
MaK_1967v8
¯
Member # 12187

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for MaK_1967v8  Ford pictures for MaK_1967v8    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.


Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
automatic ban? [patriot]

--------------------
1967 C Code Coupe
2004 Roush Stage 2

Posts: 620 | From: Sacramento, CA | Registered: Jul 2012  |  :
NEIGHT
¯
Member # 8741

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for NEIGHT  Ford pictures for NEIGHT    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.


Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
automatic ban? [patriot]
If I could I would eliminate quite a few "members." [dance]

--------------------
-Savage Habits-
1992 Summer Edition
1986 Hatch- catfish killer
1964 Impala hard top

Posts: 18528 | From: EA$T $IDE REDWOOD CITY | Registered: Nov 2008  |  :
a302juGRnot
¯
Member # 10163

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for a302juGRnot  Ford pictures for a302juGRnot    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
siiick build and car but ill have to agree its not worth 40k imo. another example are the brakes. gotta have better brakes for the steep price.

either way, still ome of the most impressive foxes out there and I'm sure this thing drives smooth af.

--------------------
H/C/I slammed and flushed NOTCHback

H/C/I 1995 mustang gt sold

Posts: 1646 | From: sacramento | Registered: Jul 2010  |  :
CornOil_&_Boost
¯
Member # 5888

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for CornOil_&_Boost  Ford pictures for CornOil_&_Boost    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

 -
 -
 -

http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1492153-91-coupe-turbo-termi-4v-779hp.html

it might not even be for sale until Spring it looks like..

but he wanted $50k for it...

and it's got way more into it than the car posted does

[ 2014-01-15, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: CornOil_&_Boost ]

--------------------
https://www.facebook.com/pushrodpoweredmustangs
'95 Cobra - small engine / small turbo -
'02 Excursion 7.3 - tow vehicle
'14 - Chevy Volt - DD

Posts: 5097 | Registered: Jul 2005  |  :
fredfifty
Since
9/2010
Member # 10320

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for fredfifty  Ford pictures for fredfifty    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:

 -

bad ass with a fat ass!
Posts: 4948 | Registered: Sep 2010  |  :
Robb
¯
Member # 9444

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for Robb  Ford pictures for Robb    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.


Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
C6Z06> Mustang. Its pretty much a known fact whether you die hard ford fanboys want to admit it or not.
Posts: 2467 | From: Sacramento,CA | Registered: Sep 2009  |  :
NEIGHT
¯
Member # 8741

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for NEIGHT  Ford pictures for NEIGHT    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.


Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
C6Z06> Mustang. Its pretty much a known fact whether you die hard ford fanboys want to admit it or not.
For ME Mustang > Vette, I would never own a vette. And if I felt like vettes were so badass guess what car I'd own and what forum I'd be on. [dance]

--------------------
-Savage Habits-
1992 Summer Edition
1986 Hatch- catfish killer
1964 Impala hard top

Posts: 18528 | From: EA$T $IDE REDWOOD CITY | Registered: Nov 2008  |  :
SydeWaySix
CAFords OG
Member # 3596

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for SydeWaySix  Ford pictures for SydeWaySix    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.


Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
C6Z06> Mustang. Its pretty much a known fact whether you die hard ford fanboys want to admit it or not.
For ME Mustang > Vette, I would never own a vette. And if I felt like vettes were so badass guess what car I'd own and what forum I'd be on. [dance]
Is it that simple to just say, "I'd own one...?" My bad BALLAH! [worship]

--------------------
2013 Boss 302 #356. Performance White. Stock.
1965 Fastback GT Restored to stock spec.

Posts: 9882 | From: Bay Area | Registered: Dec 2002  |  :
NEIGHT
¯
Member # 8741

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for NEIGHT  Ford pictures for NEIGHT    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
Corvettes aren't expensive unless you are buying new. Remember you can always finance a car. [Cool]

--------------------
-Savage Habits-
1992 Summer Edition
1986 Hatch- catfish killer
1964 Impala hard top

Posts: 18528 | From: EA$T $IDE REDWOOD CITY | Registered: Nov 2008  |  :
Blu50Stang
CAFords OG
Member # 489

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for Blu50Stang  Ford pictures for Blu50Stang    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
followed the build last year when he completed it...
probably one of the sickest foxes out there.
anyone have $40k they wanna spend?
http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1580578-89-coupe-fox500-modfox.html

You should buy it.


I, too, followed the build thread and like how the car came out. If I had an extra space in my garage, I might be interested in looking at it, but I don't. My wife would kill me if I bought another car, especially because there are things I'd certainly change to make it my own.

--------------------
Ross
'88 GT - 5.0&SF 4/04 | MM&FF 8/09 | MM&FF 79-93 Mustang Performance Cover 12/12
'17 GT350R

Posts: 1916 | From: Not CA | Registered: Oct 2001  |  :
Blu50Stang
CAFords OG
Member # 489

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for Blu50Stang  Ford pictures for Blu50Stang    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

 -
 -
 -

This car is one of the nicest foxes out there. $35k was a steal of a deal if someone bought it for that. That's not to say the fox500 couldn't sell for $35-40k, if the right buyer came around. But, you all have to know that the market for a $30k + fox is extremely small. It's just that, the right buyer HAS to come around, otherwise, timing will likely become a factor.
Depending on if he needs to sell or not.

They're 2 different cars. Fox500 is something I could see myself driving. This notch, I'd never take out of the garage.

[ 2014-01-15, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: Blu50Stang ]

--------------------
Ross
'88 GT - 5.0&SF 4/04 | MM&FF 8/09 | MM&FF 79-93 Mustang Performance Cover 12/12
'17 GT350R

Posts: 1916 | From: Not CA | Registered: Oct 2001  |  :
Beasty5.0
¯
Member # 2935

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for Beasty5.0  Ford pictures for Beasty5.0    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

 -
 -
 -

http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1492153-91-coupe-turbo-termi-4v-779hp.html

it might not even be for sale until Spring it looks like..

but he wanted $50k for it...

and it's got way more into it than the car posted does

From my understanding this is the second owner of the car. The original owner/builder got about 55k for it. That being said, the subsequent owner, guy from FL, appears to be trying to get close to what he paid for it, which I can't blame him. That is alot of money for a fox.
Posts: 1055 | From: San Francisco | Registered: Jun 2003  |  :
venomous99
¯
Member # 1917

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for venomous99  Ford pictures for venomous99    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by Blu50Stang:
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
followed the build last year when he completed it...
probably one of the sickest foxes out there.
anyone have $40k they wanna spend?
http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1580578-89-coupe-fox500-modfox.html

You should buy it.


I, too, followed the build thread and like how the car came out. If I had an extra space in my garage, I might be interested in looking at it, but I don't. My wife would kill me if I bought another car, especially because there are things I'd certainly change to make it my own.

haha...not a chance. its far too high priced of custom car for me to get into. i would honestly consider a used factory sports car like a C6 z06 or even a tesla S or X before i plunk that kinda dough into a stang.

the issue the owner will have in trying to sell this is having the reduced potential buying pool. the reality is majority arent prepared to drop $40k car on a car and rely on financing. most banks wont touch a car loan on a custom car like that...that said, it only takes one person who likes the car to justify the cost.

love practically everything about the car and respect the hard work dude put into it regardless of whatever price hes asking. i can appreciate a finished product and can look past some of the minor shortcomings on upgrades like brakes suspension, door panels(folks have u seen other door panel jobs that have upgraded to 94 and up dashes..this by far is bests them all)..the rest of it is beauty with exception to the ugly painted engine bay. surprised no one nick picked at the dusty or slightly worn seats. smh.

--------------------
MKII Q7
89LX

Posts: 4811 | From: dc | Registered: Oct 2002  |  :
*EPIK*
¯
Member # 7481

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for *EPIK*  Ford pictures for *EPIK*    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
rough crowd here...
wanna see what kind of cars the critics drive and the type of work they have done w/ their own capable hands.

Seriously. Forums make me laugh though, everyone wants to throw down their judgement as to what is good or bad about a car for sale, but hands down, not many on Cafords have a car that is close to as nice & well done as this Fox, myself included...

I agree that for this car to be worth that asking price, their are a few things that need attention, like better brakes, suspension, & engine bay paint, but read again & see how much work went into this ride, & I am willing to bet the person who had this built has well over $40k invested.

These are the type of cars that you can't really put a value on, it is unique, & is worth whatever someone wants to pay for it. Who cares if you can aquire a C6 Z06 or a real GT500 for the same price, this car is for the person that wants something unique & different!

--------------------
=91 Notch:12.31@110 **Under Construction**
=05 CTS-V: 418rwhp/393rwtq=13.01@111


http://www.djepikmusic.com

Posts: 6966 | From: 916 | Registered: Mar 2007  |  :
*EPIK*
¯
Member # 7481

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for *EPIK*  Ford pictures for *EPIK*    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
This is the perfect buy for some rich dude that likes American muscle & that has multiple cars in his garage. $40k is nothing to rich folk, but most fox body buyers are looking for a $5k car to buy....

Hell, if it had all the other details dialed in & I was well off, I would buy it at that price.

--------------------
=91 Notch:12.31@110 **Under Construction**
=05 CTS-V: 418rwhp/393rwtq=13.01@111


http://www.djepikmusic.com

Posts: 6966 | From: 916 | Registered: Mar 2007  |  :
*EPIK*
¯
Member # 7481

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for *EPIK*  Ford pictures for *EPIK*    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!

[ 2014-01-15, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]

--------------------
=91 Notch:12.31@110 **Under Construction**
=05 CTS-V: 418rwhp/393rwtq=13.01@111


http://www.djepikmusic.com

Posts: 6966 | From: 916 | Registered: Mar 2007  |  :
CornOil_&_Boost
¯
Member # 5888

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for CornOil_&_Boost  Ford pictures for CornOil_&_Boost    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
This is the perfect buy for some rich dude that likes American muscle & that has multiple cars in his garage. $40k is nothing to rich folk, but most fox body buyers are looking for a $5k car to buy....

Hell, if it had all the other details dialed in & I was well off, I would buy it at that price.

To play devils advocate. ..

A rich person with 40k looking at a fox, would more than likely not pull the pull the trigger especially seeing there is something else better for slightly more money

--------------------
https://www.facebook.com/pushrodpoweredmustangs
'95 Cobra - small engine / small turbo -
'02 Excursion 7.3 - tow vehicle
'14 - Chevy Volt - DD

Posts: 5097 | Registered: Jul 2005  |  :
Saleen 00-768
¯
Member # 9379

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for Saleen 00-768  Ford pictures for Saleen 00-768    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!

LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.

[ 2014-01-15, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]

--------------------
'00 Saleen SC #768
'90 GT
'90 California Edition (sold)
'87 Saleen #264 (sold)

Posts: 1664 | From: NOR✯CAL | Registered: Aug 2009  |  :
*EPIK*
¯
Member # 7481

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for *EPIK*  Ford pictures for *EPIK*    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!

LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.

I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.

[ 2014-01-15, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]

--------------------
=91 Notch:12.31@110 **Under Construction**
=05 CTS-V: 418rwhp/393rwtq=13.01@111


http://www.djepikmusic.com

Posts: 6966 | From: 916 | Registered: Mar 2007  |  :
quickblue302
¯
Member # 7912

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for quickblue302  Ford pictures for quickblue302    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
Thread bomb! My motor is pertty too..lol

 -
[Big Grin]

--------------------
Eat rice it's good for you!

Posts: 624 | From: sac | Registered: Sep 2007  |  :
Saleen 00-768
¯
Member # 9379

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for Saleen 00-768  Ford pictures for Saleen 00-768    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!

LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.

I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.

I do agree that ride quality is subjective but I suspect your harshness was from your spring rate.
mike croutcher the driver @ mm told me to run a 250lb spring rate up front and torque-arm spring rear but I opted for the 275 lb with my bilsteins wich is the most you wana go with on the street as I was told

[ 2014-01-15, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]

--------------------
'00 Saleen SC #768
'90 GT
'90 California Edition (sold)
'87 Saleen #264 (sold)

Posts: 1664 | From: NOR✯CAL | Registered: Aug 2009  |  :
*EPIK*
¯
Member # 7481

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for *EPIK*  Ford pictures for *EPIK*    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!

LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.

I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.

I do agree that ride quality is subjective but I suspect your harshness was from your spring rate.
mike croutcher the driver @ mm told me to run a 250lb spring rate up front and torque-arm spring rear but I opted for the 275 lb with my bilsteins wich is the most you wana go with on the street as I was told

See & all these years I listened to the MM techs when I would call over there. They told me 325lb was a mild street spring, it felt pretty stiff to me, but not harsh. You could be right? I have those same 325 coilovers on the front of my fox currently & they aren't bad, & I also had them on the Mach before I did the k member swap, & I know they rode better then the h&r super sports they replaced.

--------------------
=91 Notch:12.31@110 **Under Construction**
=05 CTS-V: 418rwhp/393rwtq=13.01@111


http://www.djepikmusic.com

Posts: 6966 | From: 916 | Registered: Mar 2007  |  :
Saleen 00-768
¯
Member # 9379

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for Saleen 00-768  Ford pictures for Saleen 00-768    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!

LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.

I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.

I do agree that ride quality is subjective but I suspect your harshness was from your spring rate.
mike croutcher the driver @ mm told me to run a 250lb spring rate up front and torque-arm spring rear but I opted for the 275 lb with my bilsteins wich is the most you wana go with on the street as I was told

See & all these years I listened to the MM techs when I would call over there. They told me 325lb was a mild street spring, it felt pretty stiff to me, but not harsh. You could be right? I have those same 325 coilovers on the front of my fox currently & they aren't bad, & I also had them on the Mach before I did the k member swap, & I know they rode better then the h&r super sports they replaced.
Im not 100% that's why but I also read you were running the derlin, im running poly, I did notice slight noise up front but it doesn't feel harsh over bumps

--------------------
'00 Saleen SC #768
'90 GT
'90 California Edition (sold)
'87 Saleen #264 (sold)

Posts: 1664 | From: NOR✯CAL | Registered: Aug 2009  |  :
*EPIK*
¯
Member # 7481

Ford Icon 1 posted      Profile for *EPIK*  Ford pictures for *EPIK*    Send New Direct Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote       Share this CAFords post on FB
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!

LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.

I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.

I do agree that ride quality is subjective but I suspect your harshness was from your spring rate.
mike croutcher the driver @ mm told me to run a 250lb spring rate up front and torque-arm spring rear but I opted for the 275 lb with my bilsteins wich is the most you wana go with on the street as I was told

See & all these years I listened to the MM techs when I would call over there. They told me 325lb was a mild street spring, it felt pretty stiff to me, but not harsh. You could be right? I have those same 325 coilovers on the front of my fox currently & they aren't bad, & I also had them on the Mach before I did the k member swap, & I know they rode better then the h&r super sports they replaced.
Im not 100% that's why but I also read you were running the derlin, im running poly, I did notice slight noise up front but it doesn't feel harsh over bumps
Yeah mine were Delrin. Probably overkill on the street & probably contributed to the harshness. Not to mention installing the torque arm would have helped to so the suspension bind would no longer be an issue in the rear

--------------------
=91 Notch:12.31@110 **Under Construction**
=05 CTS-V: 418rwhp/393rwtq=13.01@111


http://www.djepikmusic.com

Posts: 6966 | From: 916 | Registered: Mar 2007  |  :


Page: 1  2  3   
Post New Topic  New Poll  Post a Ford message board Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer friendly view of this Ford topic
Hop To:

Questions/Requests/Suggestions? email CAFords



Fueled by Ford Mustang Owners
on CaliforniaFords.com